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what does the Torah say about satan
jdl4ever:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on November 20, 2007, 06:04:07 PM ---Everyone needs to learn Torah from someone else, you cant just get everything from a book. For example (Lehavdi) does one become a doctor just by learning from the books? no one has to learn from another docter, and also go threw the practices, just so with us, yes learn from Sefarim and whats written, but a Jew also needs a connection to a Rav/ Tzaddik. Its also written that one learn a lot more in the presence of a Tzaddik (from the Tzaddiks speach) then from a book (not that im making light of books, just pointing out that in reality every Jew has to be connected to one living Rav or another).
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You are correct and I am searching for a Rav to fully follow on everything in accordance with Pirkei Avot but so far I have not found one to fully follow since there are not Kahanist Rabbis near me. There are very few Rabbis I find worthy of following so far, this is the generation of the dog and I see the decline in Torah wherever I go so it is best to be your own Rabbi if possible since most are not trustworthy and don't know what they are talking about from my experience; especially the Cheredi Rabbis. If you found a good Rabbi then post the name.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
http://www.torahanytime.com/rabbi_tabibov.html - this is my Rabbi- but the problem is that he speaks mainly in Russian when he gives his lectures in shul or on tape/ video. - He can speak in English and actually recently started giving short Dvar Torah's also in English in shul (for younger people to also come in, and becuase theirs one or 2 who cant understand Russian at all), but mainly he speaks in Russian becuase of the many older people who only understand Russia and Bukharian and not too much english.
- Hes my Rabbi because thats where my local shul is, but besides that hes a very great knowledgeable Rabbi.
I also learn from many different Rabbis and lectures and particullarily I love the lectures of Rabbi Mizrahi
http://www.torahanytime.com/rav_mizrachi.html
Divineinformation.com
Your Rabbi should be the Rav of the shul you go to (or your local shul) unless for example your Sefardi and your local shul is only Askenazi (in a situation like that). But for example with Halahot I do learn them anywhere thats reliable (I listin to Sefardi sources for example http://dailyhalacha.com/ and if I hear slightly different by a Bukharian Rav or expecially my Rav then I follow my Rav. - Their are also situations where theirs one opinion and theirs a stricter but not necessarily an obligatory thing to do, then you can choose to follow the accepted or the stricter opinion if you like.
Shlomo:
Here is an excerpt from the Torah classic "The Way of G-d" by Moshe Chaim Luzzatto (also known as the RAMCHAL).
All these refer to the system of direction devised by G-d. The angels who are given the task of overseeing and testifying about every aspect of the universe are called "the eyes of G-d." When G-d reveals Himself in one of these deliberating bodies to judge a particular case, as He did with respect to the builders of the Tower of Bavel, the Torah states that "G-d came down to see." The same is true in all similar cases.
It is important to realize, however, that the parallel between these concepts and an earthly judiciary only refers to the system. The manner in which these things are done, on the other hand, is actually not the same. For among physical beings, things are done in one way, in accordance with their perception and Essence. while among spiritual beings things are done in a different way, in accordance with their perception and Essence. [Therefore, the entire mode of operation of the two is very different.]
G-d also appointed a prosecutor, know as the Satan. Scripture mentions him when it says (Iyov 1:6), "The day came when the sons of G-d arrived to present themselves before G-d, and the Satan also came among them."
The function of the Satan is to seek judgment before these tribunals and bring action alerting the [heavenly] court to sit in judgment. This is also a result of G-d's goodness, since even though a person's sins are known to G-d, he is not brought to judgment until he is indicted [and arraigned] by this Prosecutor.
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Be prepared to be blown away:
Written by Rabbi Meir Kahane
(taken from "Perush HaMaccabee", Rabbi Kahane's commentary on the Tanach)
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great. What is the Web source for that?
I am interested in where to find more of peirush hamaccabi in english.
Did you write the translation yourself and post it here?
Christian Zionist:
I Chronicles 21:1
Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.
I Kings 22:19-23
19 Micaiah continued, "Therefore hear the word of the LORD : I saw the LORD sitting on his throne with all the host of heaven standing around him on his right and on his left.
20 And the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?'
"One suggested this, and another that.
21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.'
22 " 'By what means?' the LORD asked.
" 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said.
" 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'
23 "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."
Devils Fighting With Angel Gabriel & Michael:
Daniel 10:21-21
20 So he said, "Do you know why I have come to you? Soon I will return to fight against the prince of Persia, and when I go, the prince of Greece will come;
21 but first I will tell you what is written in the Book of Truth. (No one supports me against them except Michael, your prince.
Daniel 10:12-13
12 Then he continued, "Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them.
13 But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia.
The Prince of Persia was not the human king of Persia but rather a satanic angel who was the "area commander" for the persian empire in the spirit world. He opposed angel Gabriel from bringing answer from heaven.
Christian belive that Lucifer the former arch angel led one third of the angelic hosts into rebellion in heaven and they were cast out of heaven by God. Then Lucifer established his head quarters in the mid heaven with his evil angels. That is the reason saints experience delays in getting answers for prayers. Prophet Daniel had to persist in praying which enabled angel Gabriel to reach earth. Lucifer's squad has 4 different ranks.
1. Rulers,
2.Authorities
3. Powers of this dark world
4. The spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms
Only angels with corresponding rank can defeat the corresponding devils. The more intense our prayer the higher the order of the (God's) angel despatched to help us.
All these evil spirits operate in the second heaven (planning and conspiring against God and human race). On the earth they have demonic agents often called disembodied spirits who existed before Adam and Eve. God destroyed that world before creating Adam and Eve. That was the reason the earth was void and formless. These disembodies spirits attack and occupy human beings and make them to do wicked deeds. They also cause sickness and other infirmities. They are eathbound creatures getting instructions from the satanic angels in the second heaven.
I am curious to know what Judaism teaches about the above verses!
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