False accusations of 'racism'.

[newman]

Let's look at this issue.

Understand that 'racist' is the most abused and misused word in the english language today. It has also become the new bludgeoning word of the left. In medievel times the church used the word 'heretic' to attack and destroy (literally) those who opposed or descented.The people it attacked were NEVER heretics 99% of the time. The left use 'racist' in the same way , mostly against those who are NOT racist in any way, shape or form. The word has become a club with which to beat down opposition.

Definitions:
Racism n:
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that *a particular race is superior to others.*
2. Discrimination or prejudice *based on race*.

racist: - a person with a prejudiced belief that one *race is superior* to others

Quite clearly, the words 'racist' and 'racism' CANNOT be used to describe JTF, JTF policy or Kahanist ideology..The very definitions of these words center on race, not culture.

There are NO attacks on races at JTF. The attacks are on bad culture, NOT bad race.

JTF attacks evil and evil cultures REGARDLESS of race. JTF's attacks on WHITE european anti-semites and self-hating JEWS have been far greater in number and more vitriolic than any criticism of the cultures of any non-whites

To not speak out against evil because of Orwellian political correctness (as advocated by liberals) is evil in itself.

The hatred we have for evil cultures at JTF is based on their evil actions and stated goals.

The black, arab and mexican cultures are cultures of hate, envy, sloth, criminality and anti-semitism (this based on research, statistics and emperical evidence- NOT prejudice!). That is why we hate those cultures.The physical characteristics of these people (whilst commented on, occasionally) has NOTHING to do with our dislike of, opposition to or criticism of their cultures.

As our organisation becomes larger and poses a greater threat to Jew-haters and their leftist allies, we can expect more attacks on both our movement and our characters. Treat each and every accusation of 'racism' with the contempt it deserves. Repeat the mantra over and over again......

"IT'S NOT RACE! IT'S CULTURE, STUPID!"

[jdl4ever]

Very true. 

[Ultra Requete]

Ditto Newman; "rascist" are todays "heretics"and zionist are todays "dirty jews christ killers" the word have no changed at all.   

[decimos]

good post m8, good points as usual.

[Replica]

Actually, the new bludgeoning word is anti-semitism ( sorry, couldent keep it in ).

I just saw and just had to look more into it.

First, dont try to hide it, your racist. Whats the diffrence betwen having prejudice against a culture ( as when you mention thats there is proof of other`s being infernior) and blind racism?.

In the video, he clearly bashes arabs and muslims as whole. And since there is like 80 million diffrent arabs thats a pretty big prejudice.

Anywho, my point is that i was really shocked that there was a jewish "supremacy" group promoting hate against other people ( call it culture if you whant).

This isent a attack, i just cant understand any form of chaviunism.

[kahaneloyalist]

All Nazis are evil as are all Muslims, it is not racism when you oppose behavior which is exactly what we are doing. Muslims behave in a evil fashion, as do the vast majority of Arabs and Arab culture is also evil, so we hate evil.

[RationalThought110]

What are some of the evil cultural practices that you hate in Europe?

[Ultra Requete]

What are some of the evil cultural practices that you hate in Europe?

Was this question for Replica; who looks like a troll for me or to Kahneloyalist with whom I often diagree but he is loyal and suportive member of this forum?

To Replica; so; calling evil culture and religion evil is raciscm and what next; behavior? Will we be called rascists for critiscisng evil bahavior next ;by PC brigade; like murder, becouse every murderer has diferent motives and commit his crimes by diferent means?

[Replica]

Rationalthought110: No, i never did say criticising a culture or religion is racism. What is racism though, is calling all arabs/muslims/blacks and more morons just because they are.

In the clip ( and i take my assumption from there as it afterall is what this site stands for) The first guy goes on about how good western white people are, that they basically brought up the whole world while the moronic arabs just is a burden. Not going as far as offering a solution ; ) though he makes his point clear.

Then the other guy comes in and say how good jews are, and makes a clear point to jews as a "better race" when he says that even self-hating,intermarried and people who have disowned their roots and two generations away are far more better and more intelligent than others.

Khaneloyalist:There is nothing wrong with hating evil. Whats wrong is finger pointing at random people just because their not  jews or "righteous gentiles" and calling them evil, bad culture, inferior race or by whatever name you like.

No one will ever call you a racist if you dont judge a person from his appearance or background. It is as simple as that, even if you call it something else.

[newman]

Rationalthought110: No, i never did say criticising a culture or religion is racism. What is racism though, is calling all arabs/muslims/blacks and more morons just because they are.

In the clip ( and i take my assumption from there as it afterall is what this site stands for) The first guy goes on about how good western white people are, that they basically brought up the whole world while the moronic arabs just is a burden. Not going as far as offering a solution ; ) though he makes his point clear.

Then the other guy comes in and say how good jews are, and makes a clear point to jews as a "better race" when he says that even self-hating,intermarried and people who have disowned their roots and two generations away are far more better and more intelligent than others.

Khaneloyalist:There is nothing wrong with hating evil. Whats wrong is finger pointing at random people just because their not  jews or "righteous gentiles" and calling them evil, bad culture, inferior race or by whatever name you like.

No one will ever call you a racist if you dont judge a person from his appearance or background. It is as simple as that, even if you call it something else.

Discussions and criticisms of groups must ignore individuals by definition. Our criticisms of groups (like arab-nazis) are based on statistics and emperical evidence. Our criticism is of their collective culture and not their racial DNA, you troll!

"IT'S NOT RACE! IT'S CULTURE, STUPID!"

[MarZutra]

You know, Jay Shapiro from http://www.israelnationalradio.com/ wrote a fabulous little book about Rabbi Kahane and how he was ruined by the Leftist Elite both in Israel and America.  The book is called "Censored: Rabbi Meir Kahane the Litmus Test for Israel's Democracy".  The Socialist Established accused him of "racism" and all sorts of other things, jailed him, banned his party falsely.  Lenin said "A lie told often enough becomes truth." which applies to everything the Left and their elitist puppet masters do....

[Replica]

newman : Erm..First off, what kind of statistic and emperical evidence are we talking about here? or do you refer to [Insert random terrorist organisation with 100 members] as evidence?.

The racial dna as dna in definition isent the most important issue. Your basicaly saying that arabs/blacks/and other groups where so lousy to begin with that they couldent even come up with a decent culture, so its okay to hate them. Imo.

Hating specific groups like arab-nazi`s or religios people is another thing, hating a arab just because he is a arab is simply racism. Call it culture if you whant, it dosent make it less of an act of hate.

So in your world, there is no racism?, im a right. Only bad cultures, wich makes it justified. So basicaly you cant be racist against jews either, even if stated so. Cause after all, they just hate its culture.

"IT'S NOT RACE! IT'S CULTURE, STUPID!"

Im not a troll, im just in for a good discussion, wich after its course maby gives me more insight.

[newman]

newman : Erm..First off, what kind of statistic and emperical evidence are we talking about here? or do you refer to [Insert random terrorist organisation with 100 members] as evidence?.

The racial dna as dna in definition isent the most important issue. Your basicaly saying that arabs/blacks/and other groups where so lousy to begin with that they couldent even come up with a decent culture, so its okay to hate them. Imo.

Hating specific groups like arab-nazi`s or religios people is another thing, hating a arab just because he is a arab is simply racism. Call it culture if you whant, it dosent make it less of an act of hate.

So in your world, there is no racism?, im a right. Only bad cultures, wich makes it justified. So basicaly you cant be racist against jews either, even if stated so. Cause after all, they just hate its culture.

"IT'S NOT RACE! IT'S CULTURE, STUPID!"

Im not a troll, im just in for a good discussion, wich after its course maby gives me more insight.

The emperical evidence is that they are completely unable to move beyond the 7th century CE without western input, they are overwhelmingly anti-semitic ( read polls taken in arab countries) and lazy (notice oil states refuse to employ arabs from surrounding countries but Indians and Phillipinos).

The reasons as to their lousy cultures are immaterial. It is their culture that is objectionable, not their race. The fact is that they are capable of changing it (as western culture changed) but refuse to.

Yes it is hate. Hate of a culture. What's wrong with hate? Are you so morally vaccuous that you don't hate female circumcision, abuse of women, religiously sanctioned terror etc?

Yes there is racism, but it's not comming from us. Go ask the kkk about racism. And no, you cannot be racist against Jews because they are not a race. Jews are not hated for their culture but for another reason.

http://www.aish.com/seminars/whythejews/index.htm

I repeat:

"IT'S NOT RACE! IT'S CULTURE, STUPID!"

[MarZutra]

newman : Erm..First off, what kind of statistic and emperical evidence are we talking about here? or do you refer to [Insert random terrorist organisation with 100 members] as evidence?.

The racial dna as dna in definition isent the most important issue. Your basicaly saying that arabs/blacks/and other groups where so lousy to begin with that they couldent even come up with a decent culture, so its okay to hate them. Imo. You will very much enjoy the book by J. Phillip Rushton "Race Evolution and Behavior" which outlines what you are speaking.  With the Arabs, it is mainly Islam that has corrupted their culture, but previously to Islam the Arabians were a violent paganized bunch of War lord lead tribal societies in any event.  The Black issue is a different story, even via the leftist Wikipedia page on IQ, places the African well below par with barely 70. The author uses the same leftist testing practices and comes to the conclusion that it is because of such a collective low IQ displayed in, not only African but all Black Communities, has not allowed them the thinking capacity to "evolove" from the tribal hunter gatherer "culture"/behavior.  Therefore looking at black communities be it in Free Town, Khartoum, Paris, London, Toronto, Detroit or LA Blacks seem to exhibit the same behaviors.  This same synerio also applies, as Rushton displays, to Asians, Whites (Jews included) etc.  Perhaps this sheds light onto this subject due to there being an acknowledgment of both right and left that this is apparently the cause of the "cultural" digression of these communities or the "cultureal" advancement of other...  no "racism" here...

Hating specific groups like arab-nazi`s or religios people is another thing, hating a arab just because he is a arab is simply racism. If you check dictionaries that were printed before this Leftist subversive molestation of historical fact you will find that "racism" has nothing whatsoever to do with "Hate".  The ideology coined in the mid 1800's was, and solely was, the belief that one's race, your race, is superior to another's.  Nothing whatsoever to do with "hate" which would make it bigotry or more accurate; racial bigotry.  If you have ever spoken to an Asian, Arab or even a Nigerian black you will find the exact opposite in their belief that not only their race but their "nationalism" is superior to all others....but than again in the minds and propaganda of the Left "Racism" only applies to Whites, Christians and of course Jews...Call it culture if you whant, it dosent make it less of an act of hate.  No real act of hate unless there is a reason to hate.  If one hates evilness and debauchery, no matter what race, religion or cultural value, like the overwhelming display of decay in Africa, there would be no "racism" involved..  again unless it is to blame ol-whitey.

So in your world, there is no racism?, im a right. Sure there is.  I don't believe everyone is "equal" as this leftist egalitiarian mind continually propagates.  I guess I'm a "racist" than no?Only bad cultures, wich makes it justified.Sure does.  If a culture demands supression of other cultures is it good?  If a culture believes in massacring animals for their organs because of some debased idea of a "sexual enlightenment" is that good?  Are all cultures, religions and peoples all equal and good?  If they are why has Australia, a prison colony, the way it is after a few hundred years and the entire continant of Africa the way it is after a few million? So basicaly you cant be racist against jews either, even if stated so. Cause after all, they just hate its culture.True.  One can hate a culture or a religion no?  Is that "racism"?

"IT'S NOT RACE! IT'S CULTURE, STUPID!"  I'd argue both via evidence on both subjects placed forward by all parties on the left and the right...  dna is race related and culture is culture...

Im not a troll, im just in for a good discussion, wich after its course maby gives me more insight. Very good.  Glad to see that you do have an open mind and are open for discussion...  Happy posting...

PS: Very good post Newman.... very well written articulate and direct.  very good... and I love the pic...lol

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

For those of us that listen to Kahane on youtube or read his many great books, we can see/hear him reply to this very accusation of racism. He states that the difference is that the racist (white supremacist, Arab terrorist, or other) states that the one who is lower can never raise him/herself up to the level of racist. By converting to Judaism anyone can be as good of a Jew as Kahane.
Let us all, Jew or not, do our best to understand Kahane and be able to answer the basic question he posed: Is Israel a Western Democracy First or a Jewish State?

[Mstislav]

Well said Newman.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

I think its also to important that labeling someone racist does not prove them wrong, all it does is state that the accusing one is too ignorant to debate the issues and instead decided to simply label someone "racist". We should not be ashamed of being called "racist" we should know that it is because they are too ignorant to debate they choose to defame. Point that out to them, it will at the very least get them even angrier.

[newman]

If merely opening ones eyes and accepting the reallity that the african negro has an average IQ of 65-70 and is incapable of running a country makes one racist, then so be it. I see it as being realist, not racist.

If we accept the fact that dogs (good, loyal friends that they are) are not capable of driving a motor car, are we 'specist'?

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

If merely opening ones eyes and accepting the reallity that the african negro has an average IQ of 65-70 and is incapable of running a country makes one racist, then so be it. I see it as being realist, not racist.

If we accept the fact that dogs (good, loyal friends that they are) are not capable of driving a motor car, are we 'specist'?

I think anyone who labels anyone racist is a non-thinker, I disagree with what you said here because 1. I dont think can compare IQ's of people who have been educated to those who have not, this is not to say that someone uneducated is less intelligent, they just haven't had their mind trained the same way. 2. Whether or not someone received an education has nothing to do with their ability to run a country, that region has been a desolate wasteland, but I dont believe it is because the African is incapable of running a state, he just has no intention, he prefers to remain somewhat secluded from the international scene. Also the hatred that the various African groups have for each other contributes greatly to the civil unrest there.

Most of all though, rather than debate issues such as these with have no bearing to us Jew's why dont we discuss more Jewish issues and less black/african issues
For example why not talk about how the liberal establishment labels us racist for coming up with the only plausible solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict (There are no Palestinians!) which is an exchange of populations.

[MassuhDGoodName]

I have come to the long thought out conclusion that the races of man may indeed differ, both physically and mentally, by design.

And the Designer was Ha'shem, whom we worship.

It's not possible that Omnipotence and Omniscience accidentally made "design flaws".

Therefore, I consider that G-d made us different on purpose, and that we should ACCEPT HIS DESIGNS, rather than foolishly judge others unlike us by our own frail and faulty human standards.

If Africans tend to be challenged in political structuring and industrial development, they also are far more gifted than are other races with musical skills, sports skills, and are deeply emotional and spiritual peoples.

Northern Europeans are more technologically oriented, experienced in political formations (yet none should overlook the almost 2000 years of non-stop warring among Europeans, the most recent great war giving us such White wonders as "The Holocaust", Buchenwald, etc... .

The sad truth?...We're ALL sadly lacking and disgusting when compared to G-d.

I take all people one-by-one, and judge them only by their behavior and/or character...I could care less what is their background.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

I have come to the long thought out conclusion that the races of man may indeed differ, both physically and mentally, by design.

And the Designer was Ha'shem, whom we worship.

It's not possible that Omnipotence and Omniscience accidentally made "design flaws".

Therefore, I consider that G-d made us different on purpose, and that we should ACCEPT HIS DESIGNS, rather than foolishly judge others unlike us by our own frail and faulty human standards.

If Africans tend to be challenged in political structuring and industrial development, they also are far more gifted than are other races with musical skills, sports skills, and are deeply emotional and spiritual peoples.

Northern Europeans are more technologically oriented, experienced in political formations (yet none should overlook the almost 2000 years of non-stop warring among Europeans, the most recent great war giving us such White wonders as "The Holocaust", Buchenwald, etc... .

The sad truth?...We're ALL sadly lacking and disgusting when compared to G-d.

I take all people one-by-one, and judge them only by their behavior and/or character...I could care less what is their background.

Finally a Jewish response. Amen.

[newman]

JTF not only has a Jewish agenda but an American agenda aswell.

The reasons Blacks are discussed are;

They are THE most anti-semitic group in the USA. African blacks are also vile anti-semites. These things are CULTURAL, not racial. Therefore, it is an important subject as far as jews are concerned.

In America they are 14% of population but commit 69% of crime. 70% are born out of wedlock. They demand more and more welfare, social security and affirmative action. Again.......cultural, not racial and a real concern to righteous gentiles in the USA.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

JTF not only has a Jewish agenda but an American agenda aswell.

The reasons Blacks are discussed are;

They are THE most anti-semitic group in the USA. African blacks are also vile anti-semites. These things are CULTURAL, not racial. Therefore, it is an important subject as far as jews are concerned.

In America they are 14% of population but commit 69% of crime. 70% are born out of wedlock. They demand more and more welfare, social security and affirmative action. Again.......cultural, not racial and a real concern to righteous gentiles in the USA.

Blacks do tend to be very anti-semitic and that would be a good reason to discuss them. The problem with affirmative action is that it does take away from many deserving Jews, again with that I agree. Nonetheless however for any few blacks that are pro-Israel we must be supportive. Essentially we must see who is our ally and who is not our ally. If our ally happens to come in a strange form does it truly matter? If a Muslim converts to Judaism (In a true Conversion) he is just as much Jewish as me and I cannot look down upon him because he was a Muslim. Just the same we cannot look down on blacks that help us simply because they are blacks.

[newman]

Blacks do tend to be very anti-semitic and that would be a good reason to discuss them. The problem with affirmative action is that it does take away from many deserving Jews, again with that I agree. Nonetheless however for any few blacks that are pro-Israel we must be supportive. Essentially we must see who is our ally and who is not our ally. If our ally happens to come in a strange form does it truly matter? If a Muslim converts to Judaism (In a true Conversion) he is just as much Jewish as me and I cannot look down upon him because he was a Muslim. Just the same we cannot look down on blacks that help us simply because they are blacks.

Yes, but if that convert then defends islam, he is NOT genuine.

A supposedly pro-Israel black who defends evil black culture is not genuine. Erica has NO interest in Israel. She ONLY posts in threads critical of black culture so she can defend it.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

Blacks do tend to be very anti-semitic and that would be a good reason to discuss them. The problem with affirmative action is that it does take away from many deserving Jews, again with that I agree. Nonetheless however for any few blacks that are pro-Israel we must be supportive. Essentially we must see who is our ally and who is not our ally. If our ally happens to come in a strange form does it truly matter? If a Muslim converts to Judaism (In a true Conversion) he is just as much Jewish as me and I cannot look down upon him because he was a Muslim. Just the same we cannot look down on blacks that help us simply because they are blacks.

Yes, but if that convert then defends islam, he is NOT genuine.

A supposedly pro-Israel black who defends evil black culture is not genuine. Erica has NO interest in Israel. She ONLY posts in threads critical of black culture so she can defend it.

First of all, if it is indeed true that she only posts in threads of black interest then you are right. (I obviously have not been here long enough so could not know).
Indeed if the convert defends islam he is not genuine.
If what you say is true and she does only post in threads of black culture I apologize for defending her and will know better for the future, but you must understand that I obviously had no way of knowing that having joined earlier this evening.
So I apologize and I would hope you would accept my apology and know that I am indeed genuinely sorry