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Offline Amrafael

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Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« on: November 14, 2017, 04:27:02 AM »
The only thing Israel has going for them is now under attack. Keeping in mind the Saudis have most of their air force in Tabuk, 15 minutes away from Israel and strong evidence they purchased nuclear bombs from Pakistan; They believe Shia Islam, their worst enemies, to be a Jewish conspiracy. Netanyahu is to blame for getting too cozy with them. He is trying to make allies instead of doing what HaShem wants.!!!!!!!
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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 07:46:04 PM »
The only thing Israel has going for them is now under attack. Keeping in mind the Saudis have most of their air force in Tabuk, 15 minutes away from Israel and strong evidence they purchased nuclear bombs from Pakistan; They believe Shia Islam, their worst enemies, to be a Jewish conspiracy. Netanyahu is to blame for getting too cozy with them. He is trying to make allies instead of doing what HaShem wants.!!!!!!!

Bibi the traitor trusting in his allies the Philistines is no better or worse than your average Jew trusting in their ally Herr Drumph.
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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2017, 12:33:15 AM »
I don't know from what source where you derive your crazy information.
The only thing Israel has going for them is now under attack. Keeping in mind the Saudis have most of their air force in Tabuk, 15 minutes away from Israel and strong evidence they purchased nuclear bombs from Pakistan; They believe Shia Islam, their worst enemies, to be a Jewish conspiracy. Netanyahu is to blame for getting too cozy with them. He is trying to make allies instead of doing what HaShem wants.!!!!!!!

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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2017, 12:37:56 AM »
I don't know from what source where you derive your crazy information.

It's true and worse, Trump and his Saudi butt buddies are threatening no help against Hezbollah if Israel doesn't disarm, heard it from a few people that are much more serious than me now.

Seems the source was some no-name Lebanese tabloid with no credibility though:

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Saudi-document-lays-out-plans-for-peace-with-Israel-514200

 Report: Saudi document lays out plans for peace with Israel

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    After listening, Kushner and Greenblatt form ideas of their own on Mideast peace
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    Abbas confidante: Riyadh backs PA president on reconciliation, peace efforts

By YASSER OKBI/MAARIV
November 14, 2017 16:32
Foreign Ministry paper allegedly offers peace with the Jewish state in exchange for US pressure on Iran.
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US President Donald Trump and Saudi Deputy Crown Prince and Minister of Defense Mohammed bin Salman

US President Donald Trump and Saudi Deputy Crown Prince and Minister of Defense Mohammed bin Salman enter the State Dining Room of the White House. (photo credit:REUTERS)

Lebanese newspaper Al-Akhbar exposed Tuesday morning "The secret document of the Saudi Foreign Ministry," that it claims includes a road map towards rejuvenating the 2002 Saudi Peace Initiative and hints at meetings and understandings between Israeli and Saudi officials.

The document, claims the paper, proves everything that has been leaked over the last few months since US President Donald  Trump's visit to the region in May. According to the leaks, Washington aims to mediate a peace agreement between Israel and the oil-rich kingdom. The document, said to be signed by Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir, also allegedly confirms mutual visits by senior officials including the rumored visit of the Saudi Crown Prince to Tel Aviv.



According to the Lebanese paper, which is aligned with Hezbollah and has a history of fabrications, the document also includes "the compromises Riyadh will offer to end the Palestinian issue," and in addition, "Riyadh's efforts to gain support against Iran and Hezbollah."

"Saudi Arabia's rapprochement with Israel involves a risk to the Muslim peoples of the Kingdom, because the Palestinian cause represents a spiritual and historical and religious heritage," reads the report claiming to quote the document. "The Kingdom will not take this risk unless it feels the United States' sincere approach to Iran, which is destabilizing the region by sponsoring terrorism, its sectarian policies and interfering in the affairs of others."

A key demand of the Saudis, according to the report, is the dismantling of Israel's alleged nuclear weapons capabilities.

"Any rapprochement between the Kingdom and Israel depends on the parity of the relationship between the two countries. At the military level, Israel is the only country possessing nuclear weapons in the Middle East, which gives it superiority in the regional balance of power. Accordingly, the Kingdom should be allowed to possess such deterrent elements or  Israel must demilitarize."

The report stipulates that "Saudi Arabia will harness its diplomatic capabilities and political relations with the Palestinian Authority and with Arab and Islamic countries to facilitate finding reasonable, acceptable and innovative solutions to the disputed issues contained in the Arab peace initiative presented by Saudi Arabia, and through the adoption of innovative solutions by the United States."

Among the guidelines Riyadh is reportedly proposing are: the subordination of the city of Jerusalem to international sovereignty, the permanent settlement of Palestinian refugees in the West Bank or their naturalization by other Muslim states and the holding of a major summit to launch a final peace agreement.

In exchange, the report says, Saudi Arabia will demand Washington ratchet up US and international sanctions against Iran for its ballistic missile program and its sponsorship of terrorism around the world and revisit the P5+1 nuclear agreement to make sure it is strictly enforced. The document also demands "intensive intelligence cooperation in the fight against organized crime and drug trafficking supported by Iran and Hezbollah."

The Saudi peace initiative, also known as the Arab peace initiative, has been referenced over the last 15 years as a possible basis for peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Since Trump announced his plans to forge a wider regional peace agreement, which he dubbed "the ultimate deal," it has resurfaced as a platform on which to pave a path forward. Recent reports have surfaced that the administration team tasked with finding a solution has moved on from the listening and learning mode and has begun proposing a path ahead.

There have also been reports, though they have been denied, that Saudi Arabia is pressuring Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas into accept Trump's peace terms, most recently on a emergency visit Abbas was called to pay to the kingdom earlier this month.

There is no way to verify the content of the document reported by AL-Akhbar. Hezbollah, the Lebanese proxy of Iran, has reasons to try to discredit Saudi Arabia by painting it as capitulating to the US and Israel.

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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2017, 02:12:29 PM »
Something fishy in this episode. It may get clearer after some time.
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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2017, 02:16:06 PM »
Something fishy in this episode. It may get clearer after some time.

It's probably Hezbollah propaganda. If Trump was doing that, it would not surprise me though.
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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2017, 03:09:02 PM »
It's probably Hezbollah propaganda. If Trump was doing that, it would not surprise me though.

Most likely it may be a Hezbollah propaganda against Israel. Trump may be standing at a distant second.



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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2017, 02:10:45 PM »
every leaders is talking too much, which is a good indication that they all have an agreement to do business and when you do business it means that you give  whatever is necessary in exchange, then with this in mind and knowing the hostility of the Israeli officials and Bobo government with anything Jewish   it isn't very difficult to figure out what's going to happen.
he is persuaded he is the emperor and Bobo easily forgets there s a more powerful king protecting his children sister and brother with the same Jewish heart united even if it is difficult to see that at the end there is light showing the path

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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2017, 08:24:53 AM »
The next time the earth is destroyed will be by fire,  either God will speak it from his mouth, or man's craziness will cause nuclear wars from all the nations acquiring nuclear weapons.  The rogue nations want to hasten the Islamic messiah. This world grows darker and darker, but Israel is where the New Jerusalem will be for all those who believe in him and are saved.    Its in Revelation 21.  A New Heaven and a New Earth.   Then I saw a "new heaven and a new earth,"  for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away,  and there was no longer any sea.  I saw the Holy City,  the New Jerusalem,  coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.  And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying,  "Look!  God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them.  They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.     There will be both Jews and Gentiles.

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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 02:10:19 PM »
Idolater prophesies are so stupid and vague, they get used to mean everything that comes up every week for a thousand years. It's a severe sin for Jews to even read them.
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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 10:55:48 AM »
Saudi Arabia is the worst Muslim country. One of the worst countries in the world.

Yes, they are enemies of Iran, just as Iran is enemy of ISIS. They just wat to remove competition. All three sides want to be the only Islamic factor in Middle East and the world.

The enemy of your enemy is not your firend.


BTW, Saudi army is a joke. Yes, they have modern equipment, but bad training, no discipline and no fighting moral. Look what Houthies are doing to them.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2017, 08:34:06 AM »
We now see the prophesy of Ezekiel 38 and 39 being drawn together.   God will put a hook in the jaws of Rosh, (Russia)  and the 8 or 9 Islamic nations to drag them into Israel,  there will be a big massacre, and Israel will prevail because of the Power of God.    Israel may be back in its Land,  But it must fight to stay there.    For centuries the Jewish people have waited for the Messiah to come and set up His Kingdom in Israel.  At that time, Israel will receive the Land God promised them in perpetuity.   That is when redeemed Israel will experience the fulfillment of all the promises in the Abrahamic Covenant.  Genesis 12: 1-7 and become the center of Worldwide worship and learning.

Remember,  Satan does not want Jews or Christians to know the Truth,  he will use many people to deceive and push both Christians and Jews away from their destiny with Yeshua.    There will be False Teachers and Scoffers abounding in Deception.

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Re: Secret Saudi plan includes Israeli nuclear disarmament
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2017, 11:06:18 AM »
Yeah but actually people could scoff at what you say and not be abounding in deception, it's just quite scoffable.
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2017, 12:50:14 PM »
Saudi sponsored global sunni muslamic army is lead by a pakistani general. Incidentally pakistan is the only muslamic nation that have declared nukes. 
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