Who is behind the New World Order Agenda?

[Shamgar]

Does Judaism have a stand on abortion? I think if the mother's life is at stake is about the only reason. Using abortion as contraception is pretty evil.

There is some clown up in the Chicago area that is trying to have abortion (actually euthanazia/murder) legalized up until the child is 3 months old.

[Dr. Dan]

Does Judaism have a stand on abortion? I think if the mother's life is at stake is about the only reason. Using abortion as contraception is pretty evil.

There is some clown up in the Chicago area that is trying to have abortion (actually euthanazia/murder) legalized up until the child is 3 months old.

My understanding are as follows:

If the mother's life is in danger, she MUST have an abortion.  All other times it's wrong.

However, by "life being in danger." Some will rule that if she dies, she must.  Others will say that danger has to do with mental or other physical ailments.  common orthodox point of view is that only if it is the physical life of the mother.  in all other cases of rape, defective child, etc they can't..but should still consult with their rabbi if distress might take place from the birth.

[Lubab]

Massuh or MZ,

Is the illuminati the same thing as Skull and Bones?

It's not clear to me that there still is an organized group known as the illuminati. That term seems to be thrown around to include all the elites who support the New World Order agenda.

[Lubab]

If you look far enough you'll find that money and power is ruling over all those people...so really they are powerless and money and power really run the world agenda...if you look even further you'll find that G-d is behind it all as "the leaders of nation's hearts are in the hands of G-d"...and G-d is of course the source of all money and power...

But if you look even further you'll find that we're behind it...G-d is waiting for us to DO something about it and as long as we don't we are letting them get away with it and subconsciously admitting that we're okay with exile, we're okay with the status quo we like living in "Egypt" and we want to stay there.

It's time to break the shackles folks.

[Dr. Dan]

If you look far enough you'll find that money and power is ruling over all those people...so really they are powerless and money and power really run the world agenda...if you look even further you'll find that G-d is behind it all as "the leaders of nation's hearts are in the hands of G-d"...and G-d is of course the source of all money and power...

But if you look even further you'll find that we're behind it...G-d is waiting for us to DO something about it and as long as we don't we are letting them get away with it and subconsciously admitting that we're okay with exile, we're okay with the status quo we like living in "Egypt" and we want to stay there.

It's time to break the shackles folks.

deep

[AsheDina]

 HORSElady is.

[MarZutra]

Massuh or MZ,

Is the illuminati the same thing as Skull and Bones?

It's not clear to me that there still is an organized group known as the illuminati. That term seems to be thrown around to include all the elites who support the New World Order agenda.

Shalom Brother.  There are two very applicable answers and reads to this question that were presented by two very worthy authors.  John Robison's book "Proofs of a Conspiracy" printed in, I believe, 1798. Robison documents "the Order of the Illuminati, founded in 1775, by Dr. Adam Weishaupt, professor of Canon law in the university of Ingolstadt, and abolished in 1786 by the Elector of Bavaria, but revived immediately after, under another name, and in different form, all over Germany. It was again detected, and seemingly broken up; but it had by this time taken so deep a root that it still subsists without being detected, and has spread into all countries of Europe." His examination of this order, born of freemasonry, has induced him ." to lay before the public a short abstract of the information which [he hopes] sufficient for establishing the fact, that this detestable association exists, and its emissaries are busy among us."  This was/is a monumental work, especially for its printing.  He documents how the Illuminati worked to infiltrate and control reading rooms, Universities and the political scene, which is highly similar to the Fabian Socialist Society and their "Christian Book Club" where they "Socialized" the Bible and propagated Socialist ideals to the believing Christian community as well their connecting organizations: ACLU, CFR/Trilateral, Royal Institute for International Affairs etc.

The second author is Dr. Antony Sutton, due to his immense information capture and documentation within his books.  He argues that after the Illuminati got shut down it went underground and resurfaced with a branch in America called "The Skull and Bones Society".  He documents this history, its deeds and its affiliates in his work "America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones" which is available via e-book: http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/ebooks/ebooks.html

There you will find other works of his that are related to the history, deeds and individuals concerned within the topic you've asked...  enjoy...

[Lubab]

Massuh or MZ,

Is the illuminati the same thing as Skull and Bones?

It's not clear to me that there still is an organized group known as the illuminati. That term seems to be thrown around to include all the elites who support the New World Order agenda.

Shalom Brother.  There are two very applicable answers and reads to this question that were presented by two very worthy authors.  John Robison's book "Proofs of a Conspiracy" printed in, I believe, 1798. Robison documents "the Order of the Illuminati, founded in 1775, by Dr. Adam Weishaupt, professor of Canon law in the university of Ingolstadt, and abolished in 1786 by the Elector of Bavaria, but revived immediately after, under another name, and in different form, all over Germany. It was again detected, and seemingly broken up; but it had by this time taken so deep a root that it still subsists without being detected, and has spread into all countries of Europe." His examination of this order, born of freemasonry, has induced him ." to lay before the public a short abstract of the information which [he hopes] sufficient for establishing the fact, that this detestable association exists, and its emissaries are busy among us."  This was/is a monumental work, especially for its printing.  He documents how the Illuminati worked to infiltrate and control reading rooms, Universities and the political scene, which is highly similar to the Fabian Socialist Society and their "Christian Book Club" where they "Socialized" the Bible and propagated Socialist ideals to the believing Christian community as well their connecting organizations: ACLU, CFR/Trilateral, Royal Institute for International Affairs etc.

The second author is Dr. Antony Sutton, due to his immense information capture and documentation within his books.  He argues that after the Illuminati got shut down it went underground and resurfaced with a branch in America called "The Skull and Bones Society".  He documents this history, its deeds and its affiliates in his work "America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones" which is available via e-book: http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/ebooks/ebooks.html

There you will find other works of his that are related to the history, deeds and individuals concerned within the topic you've asked...  enjoy...

Thanks! You gave me some homework. But I guess I can infer that it does still exist and Skull and Bones is only one branch of the umbrella group. I always knew the ACLU was part of the cabal.

[MarZutra]

The ACLU was founded in January of 1920.  It was founded to provide legal services to exposed Socialists and Communists.  Many of the heads of the ACLU were communists.  If you have a library near you Lubab, I strongly suggest you borrow the book by Rose Martin called "Fabian Freeway: High Road to Socialism in the USA".

Antony Sutton, like the long drole Caroll Quigley of the Establishment "Left", are very informative and accurate on genral history of and knowledge into many branches of this NWO players.  One group in particular that was very active, amongst others, active in progressing Socialism in England, and later within America is the British Fabian Socialist Society.  The names of those who are members will shock anyone who simply researches, even wikipedia would give some idea of the grand chess game...even via one organization. 

One will too find that the most active, names, within the BFSS are also related to those within such groups as the Milner/Rhodes Round Table, Bilderberg, Institute for International Affairs (British counterpart to the CFR/Trilateral) and of course their direct connections to the UN (to which Alger Hiss wrote the charter), ACLU even the ADL and other "progressive" "Jewish" organizations. 

If you wish to download the ecopy you can get a torrent of it...  I do believe....  A fabulous book...  I liked it so much I purchased the book....

Seek and yee shall find....   

[Shamgar]

Do some research on Roger Baldwin the founder of the ACLU. He is about one fo the most ungodly people you could imagine. More proof the NWO is backbed by Satan.

[MarZutra]

Very correct about Roger Baldwin.  More interesting is the fact that the ACLU with their debauched Attorney's "progressed" Evolutionary Darwinism (Dialectical Materialism) into public education via their landmark case "Scopes Monkey Trial".   Very interesting in deed when one reads other books which are associated to this issue: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" - Charlotte Thompson Iserbyte, "Dumbing Down" and "The Underground History of American Education" - John T. Gatto, "Is Public Education Necessary" - Samuel L Blumenfeld, "None Dare Call it Education" - John Stormer or "Why Johnny Can't Read" by Rudolph Flesch.  This is only the NWO's agenda, cause and effects directly related to the "Educational" system...  which not only applies to America but the entire West...

Very complex and deprave I must say....

[Lubab]

So why does the ACLU support curtailing federal government power when it comes to things like wiretapping and invasions of privacy.
They should be the staunchest supporters of a centralized federal government that can do what it pleases.

[Lisa]

So why does the ACLU support curtailing federal government power when it comes to things like wiretapping and invasions of privacy.
They should be the staunchest supporters of a centralized federal government that can do what it pleases.

Probably because they're used to monitor evil people whose actions the ACLU supports. 

[briann]

Ive always equated the NWO with internationalism.  Not with the typical sensationalistic luminati or skull and bones or masons.

To me the NWO is all about liberalism, internationalism, and multiculturalism.   Many far-lefters want to meld the entire world population into one big cess pool of grey ooze.   That is their goal... and they are very OPEN about it.  Every time you hear MULTICULTURALISM... run for the hills... because that IS the NWO.

[MarZutra]

Ive always equated the NWO with internationalism.  Not with the typical sensationalistic luminati or skull and bones or masons.

To me the NWO is all about liberalism, internationalism, and multiculturalism.   Many far-lefters want to meld the entire world population into one big cess pool of grey ooze.   That is their goal... and they are very OPEN about it.  Every time you hear MULTICULTURALISM... run for the hills... because that IS the NWO.

You are partially correct briann.  You must research the history behind all of your lables.  What they mean?  How they are applied (schemas)?  Who developed them?  For what reasons/goals?  Then you will be on the proper track to a more focused perspective and off the generalizations. 

When you reasearch the ideologies, you'll find names.  Names you will find are attached to groups/orangizations.  Organizations you will find associated with additional organizations personalities and particular goals.....   

I'll stop now before people start accusing me of being Nik reincarnated 

[GoIsraelGo!]

Ive always equated the NWO with internationalism.  Not with the typical sensationalistic luminati or skull and bones or masons.

To me the NWO is all about liberalism, internationalism, and multiculturalism.   Many far-lefters want to meld the entire world population into one big cess pool of grey ooze.   That is their goal... and they are very OPEN about it.  Every time you hear MULTICULTURALISM... run for the hills... because that IS the NWO.

Brian, I have to agree with you. To me a New World Order is Islam and the Communists taking over. Islam an Communism are the same...both seek to divide and conquer and have ultimate control over the masses. We are all trying to preserve our way of life and there are those who will stop at nothing to take our freedom away. Communisn and Islam do not tolerate independent thinking.... free minds make trouble for their agenda of a New World Order.

[MarZutra]

Republic you as well are partially correct.  Islam is a globalist ideology with an agenda to place the entirety of Earth under Sharia Law: Islam.  Communism: International Socialism: National Socialism are too globalist agendas.  Now within each there are subgroups.  Many are interconnected via common personalities, schemas and end goals...with minimal differance.  A good example is the fact that the Environmentalist is very similar to the Humanist which is similar to the Socialist which is similar to this New Age ineptitude. 

Hopefully, I'm clearing up some of the fog of war...   

[GoIsraelGo!]

Republic you as well are partially correct.  Islam is a globalist ideology with an agenda to place the entirety of Earth under Sharia Law: Islam.  Communism: International Socialism: National Socialism are too globalist agendas.  Now within each there are subgroups.  Many are interconnected via common personalities, schemas and end goals...with minimal differance.  A good example is the fact that the Environmentalist is very similar to the Humanist which is similar to the Socialist which is similar to this New Age ineptitude. 

Hopefully, I'm clearing up some of the fog of war...   

Hi Marzutra, first I would like to thank you for responding to my post. I do see your point too, you mentioned these ' sub groups ' and I am going to assume that these sub groups are not as agressive and therefore not as much of a threat as say Islam and Communism. First we eradicate the enemy and for these sub groups that have ' ideas ' not beneficial to us we can deal with them if bigger issues arise from their actions. I do not think these sub groups pose such a threat...unless these sub groups become radical and turn out to be like Islam or Communism. Thank you again and Shalom from Dox!   

[spiritus_persona]

Obama is also behind the NWO.  He wants to bring everyone into one world so that they can live in the same way as everyone else.  Then the clouds will part, the sun will shine, the birds will sing hallelujah, and candy will flow from the river of change.

[2honest]

Lately I watched a video that is about the Bilderberg group and NWO in general.
It goes more than 2 hours and is quite scary.

I belive that there are crazy people out there who think it's their fate to rule the whole world. On the other hand it feels like these conspiracy theories go too far by claiming everything is in the hands of the NWO guys which automatically leads to the conlcusion that NWO is the only threat and other things like islamic terrorism doesn't really exist or is only a tool of those behind the NWO to further their goals.

 

[Dr. Dan]

Donald Duck!

The old world order agenda was run by Micky Mouse

[Bodhi]

To Mar Zutra, FYI I'm almost certain that Basil Zaharoff was a Jew.

[MarZutra]

To Mar Zutra, FYI I'm almost certain that Basil Zaharoff was a Jew.

I wouldn't be surprized if he was a Jew but than again I don't know.  People still say Adolf Hitler was a Jew.  A fag yes but Jew not at all likely.  I beleive he was born in Turkey under the name Basileios moved as a child to Greece and then later in life to Russia or something like that.  It has been a very long time since I've read on this individual.  The name Zaharoff was not his origional name, I don't believe.  I think it was a "Russian" adaptation.  I read his biography in the book "Men of Wealth" by John T. Flynn