Author Topic: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?  (Read 1786 times)

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Offline ChabadKahanist

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There is an individual he comes into our shul only for the Kiddush.
I think may daven at another shul in the  neighborhood.
But what really gets me is before the gabbai or rav makes Kiddush he grabs something & eats it.
I think this tacky & a chutzpah on his part.

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I don't know. For Noahides going to shul is optional, but I don't go because there is no Orthodox synagogue where I live. Even if there were, I'm not sure how Jewish people would feel about my presence there.
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I don't know. For Noahides going to shul is optional, but I don't go because there is no Orthodox synagogue where I live. Even if there were, I'm not sure how Jewish people would feel about my presence there.

Trust me, they’ll trip over themselves happy at a someone who isn’t Jewish that doesn’t hate them.

There is an individual he comes into our shul only for the Kiddush.
I think may daven at another shul in the neighborhood
But what really gets me is before the gabbai or rav makes Kiddush he grabs something & eats it.
I think this tacky & a chutzpah on his part.

Tell him wait no? If he comes and follows the rules better than not coming. At least he makes a bra ha no?
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Trust me, they’ll trip over themselves happy at a someone who isn’t Jewish that doesn’t hate them.

Tell him wait no? If he comes and follows the rules better than not coming. At least he makes a bra ha no?
Sure he makes a brocha but it is not nice when he is davening elsewhere & just coming for the kiddush

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Trust me, they’ll trip over themselves happy at a someone who isn’t Jewish that doesn’t hate them.

It depends on the congregation. Some Rabbis are comfortable with Noahides attending their synagogue services. Some are not.
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It depends on the congregation. Some Rabbis are comfortable with Noahides attending their synagogue services. Some are not.
My shul in America had a Gentile named  Merle who called himself chometz man & he davened with us every Shabbos & even donated a new stove to the shul

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My shul in America had a Gentile named  Merle who called himself chometz man & he davened with us every Shabbos & even donated a new stove to the shul


So I guess he's the one who bought the chametz every Erev Pesach.



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So I guess he's the one who bought the chametz every Erev Pesach.
He is.

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I would try not to judge this person. Maybe he’s poor hungry and religious.

Or maybe he’s a freeloader.
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I would try not to judge this person. Maybe he’s poor hungry and religious.

Or maybe he’s a freeloader.
He's a freeloader he is quite well off.
IMHO Even if he comes late he can at least daven with us