What is your religion?

[Ultra Requete]

Raised as RC, since I dicovered my Jewish roots I'm just meshianic christian ; jewish ortodoxy is to close in form to RC for me no disrespect intended; in fact I like more ortodox jews than others becouse they're sincere, true and honest in their judaism. I don't respect reformed and all they're all phonies like liberal christians. 

[RationalThought110]

The Conserved Movement is also dying. Everyone either becomes more religious and becomes Orthodox or sees that most Conserative Jews don't follow what the movement teaches so becomes Deform.

i think i may become one of those conserved jews that will, Gd willing, become more "traditional"

Until 10-20 years ago, I think the Conservative Movement was mostly traditional.  I think one of the differences was that men and women were allowed to sit together during services.  However, for counting minyans, reading Torah, etc, I think the Conservative Movement and Traditional Judaism were basically the same. 


But then the Conservative Movement decided to become more "diverse" and gave conservative synagogues the option of implementing some policies similar to the reform movement--changing how minyans are counted, allowing anyone to read from the Torah, encouraging women to wear a Tallit...

There was a disagreement among conservative rabbis over whether there should be gay rabbis so in the name of "diversity", they decided that they'll give individual synagogues the option to decide what to do.  So some conservative synagogues could be mostly traditional as it was like more than 20 years ago while others could have more similarities with the reform movement.

[Dr. Dan]

We can be no more than who we are.Some hate me for accepting G-d Jesus Christ as my Lord.Thats fine ,but ye are closed minded!Do I disrespect you,no.We worship the same G-d!!!!

I don't hate you...your heart ultimately wants good...so...wherever it takes you it will take you.

I'll just say one thing: the ISraelite slaves could have marched straight to the promised land in 10-20 days..but they had to wander for 40 years to figure things out...and i'll tell you, I'm one of those Jews that has to wander to figure things out.

[Dr. Dan]

My religion? well a bit confused...... I was raised as a Catholic, though I was pagan in my heart. I became interested in Judaism in my teens and studied Torah alone for years. So my ideas were similar to Samaritans and Karaites ( since I had only the written Torah available). I started conversion to Judaism at 27, but never finished. Now, perhaps Noahide, since I try to do the Seven Mitzvot, but not a pure one. A bit Christian, and also a bit Samaritan since I believe in Guerizim. Anyway I believe Hashem created the world. Do you think it is wrong not to have a well defined religion? After all we are all humans.

I think Jermiah had an ingredient:

1. Be righteous to one another
2. Walk with Gd
3. Be merciful

If a person can follow these rules and do these acts,  whatever religion he is practicing is a good religion

[HiWarp]

Greek Orthodox Christian.

[Vito]

Ok, so let me be a bit more specific... I was raised Catholic, now I'm a non-denominational Christian, but I do like to observe some Jewish holidays like Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashana and Passover. Hopefully by this Passover I can read something from the Hagadah    Is that ok by Jewish law btw?

[dawntreader]

Ya'akov should have put a category for "Torah True Jew".

But anyways, I was raised Conservative.

[Dr. Dan]

Are you from Roslyn? Is that in Long Island?

actually i'm from northern NJ..

but when i was growing up, there were no sephardic temples near us and we definately hated anything reform or reconstructed (if it existed)..so we basically ended up goign to temples that were traditional in nature, but non-orthodox...

As our family has evolved religiously and traditionally, we know what we appreciate and what we hate. I know that we are dismayed by our current temple and our rabbi. OUr previous one was a great speaker, but a nutty liberal..and the new one they replaced him is just as nutty...and we all know it.

As far as Roslyn is concerned. I know of a conserved synogogue that the vast majority of the congregants there are also Persian yet traditional.

In LA, there is a conserved synogogue called Temple Sinai...The vast majority there are Persian Jews.

Whether you might agree or disagree, there are certain traditional aspects of the conserved movement which mimicks what many Persian Jews are used to from their sephardic teaching from their parents.  Likewise, a lot of us like sitting together in the temple and to not be separated.  A lot of us are not into being strictly observant either.

However, we have to start somewhere and I know us Persian Jews prefer religiosity over secularism...However, we dont' believe in blind religiosity...What matters to many of us the most is family and education and treating our neighbors well...all the rest is commentary.

Why do you call them temples? Just stick to synagogue. You used synagogue at some points but at other points you said temple. Jews don't pray in temples, that's what Hindus and Buddhists do. The Jewish Temple was destroyed and only two have ever existed. JTF will built the third when we take power.

ummm, i don't subscribe to political correctness on this forum. In my vocabulary, temple means the same thing as a synogogue.

A church is for christians; mosques are for muslims...temples...well, hindus go to a hindu temple. Buddhists go to a buddhist temple.. Jews go to synogogues...or to temple...

[OdKahaneChai]

Are you from Roslyn? Is that in Long Island?

actually i'm from northern NJ..

but when i was growing up, there were no sephardic temples near us and we definately hated anything reform or reconstructed (if it existed)..so we basically ended up goign to temples that were traditional in nature, but non-orthodox...

As our family has evolved religiously and traditionally, we know what we appreciate and what we hate. I know that we are dismayed by our current temple and our rabbi. OUr previous one was a great speaker, but a nutty liberal..and the new one they replaced him is just as nutty...and we all know it.

As far as Roslyn is concerned. I know of a conserved synogogue that the vast majority of the congregants there are also Persian yet traditional.

In LA, there is a conserved synogogue called Temple Sinai...The vast majority there are Persian Jews.

Whether you might agree or disagree, there are certain traditional aspects of the conserved movement which mimicks what many Persian Jews are used to from their sephardic teaching from their parents.  Likewise, a lot of us like sitting together in the temple and to not be separated.  A lot of us are not into being strictly observant either.

However, we have to start somewhere and I know us Persian Jews prefer religiosity over secularism...However, we dont' believe in blind religiosity...What matters to many of us the most is family and education and treating our neighbors well...all the rest is commentary.

Why do you call them temples? Just stick to synagogue. You used synagogue at some points but at other points you said temple. Jews don't pray in temples, that's what Hindus and Buddhists do. The Jewish Temple was destroyed and only two have ever existed. JTF will built the third when we take power.

ummm, i don't subscribe to political correctness on this forum. In my vocabulary, temple means the same thing as a synogogue.

A church is for christians; mosques are for muslims...temples...well, hindus go to a hindu temple. Buddhists go to a buddhist temple.. Jews go to synogogues...or to temple...

"Temple" is only used by deformed Jews. 

[decimos]

Noahide.

[Dr. Dan]

I found it particularly offensive when you said that there were no "Sfardic temples". No Sfardic synagogue would ever call itself a temple in the first place. That is a Deform thing that some Conserved synagogues later copied. The Conserved synagogue I went to called itself Congregation Beth T'fillah, not Temple _____ like all those gay politically correct synagogues call themselves.

no you mis understood...in my mind synogogue = temple....

I was joking that you were being politically correct about calling jewish temples synogogues and that i simply was replying that this is a politically incorrect movement so what's the big deal if we call the same thing a temple or synogogue...why be so politically correct about it?

[Dr. Dan]

ok you know what? I'll call all Jewish temples Synogogues...

when i grew up, our term was "going to temple on shabbat"....we didn't use the word synogogue...it really doens't matter to me...Black, African American...Temple, Synogogue...Happy?   :embarassed:

[OdKahaneChai]

ok you know what? I'll call all Jewish temples Synogogues...

when i grew up, our term was "going to temple on shabbat"....we didn't use the word synogogue...it really doens't matter to me...Black, African American...Temple, Synogogue...Happy?   :embarassed:

There can only be one "Temple," and we're waiting for it to be built.

[Dr. Dan]

ok fine, any jewish place of worship is now considered a synogogue...Deformed, Deconstructed, Conserved, "Modern" Orthodox, Orthodox, Sephardic, Lala loo loo Judaism....all synogogues instead of temples...  geez 

[Dominater96]

They are non-fully practicing Orthodox. They are still Orthodox. They practice some things but not all. For example I OBSERVE Shabbat by going to synagogue and doing kiddush but I don't KEEP it completely.

Thats an Oxymoron. A orthodox Jew is a Jew who fully practices and FOLLOWS the Torah and Mitzvot. How can you be a Orthodox Jew but not keep Shabbat?

[Dr. Dan]

I found it particularly offensive when you said that there were no "Sfardic temples". No Sfardic synagogue would ever call itself a temple in the first place. That is a Deform thing that some Conserved synagogues later copied. The Conserved synagogue I went to called itself Congregation Beth T'fillah, not Temple _____ like all those gay politically correct synagogues call themselves.

no you mis understood...in my mind synogogue = temple....

I was joking that you were being politically correct about calling jewish temples synogogues and that i simply was replying that this is a politically incorrect movement so what's the big deal if we call the same thing a temple or synogogue...why be so politically correct about it?

But The Jewish Temple should not be called a synagogue, it should be called The Temple.

oye..ok i get it...The only time to refer a Jew place of worship as a "temple" is the beit hamikdash...otherwise it is a synagogue.

[Raulmarrio2000]

Why have you included the option "Muslim Nazi"? Nazi means National-Socialists. Muslims are neither Nationalist ( since they are from several different nations) nor Socialist ( many Muslim countries are Monarchies).
Of course you mean "genocidal" by Nazi! But is it fair to call all Muslims Genocidal? Is it true that many Genocides are commited by people who are, or at least, claim to be Muslim. It is also true that many Muslim books ( not the Koran itself) have incitement to genocide.
But if we are too judge all Muslims for what SOME of them do, or what their books say then..... What about other religions? Catholics did the Inquisition..... and the New Testament says "cursed be anyonne who loveth Jesus not". "Anyone who saith that Christ (the son of G-d) has come not in flesh is the Antchrist, that is the devil"
We, Noahides, also have written that thieves should be executed for stealing even less of one cent, and also idolators must be executed. I have never murdered any Hindu!!!!! The Torah also says that any descendant of the Amalequites, even a child, must be executed.
There are Catholics, Jews, Muslims (very few), Noahides... here, and noone has killed each other!
The only ones that have attacked me, not so far as to kill, but destroyed my front door twelve times, are secularists!!!

[kellymaureen]

Raised anglican, left that at 16, right now non-denominational Christian, though I am not formally religious.

Lol someone voted muslim nazi

[Muck DeFuslims]

"Why have you included the option "Muslim Nazi"? Nazi means National-Socialists. Muslims are neither Nationalist ( since they are from several different nations) nor Socialist ( many Muslim countries are Monarchies).
Of course you mean "genocidal" by Nazi! But is it fair to call all Muslims Genocidal? Is it true that many Genocides are commited by people who are, or at least, claim to be Muslim. It is also true that many Muslim books ( not the Koran itself) have incitement to genocide."


Sigh.
Another brain dead fool that just doesn't get it.

[Dexter]

Why have you included the option "Muslim Nazi"? Nazi means National-Socialists. Muslims are neither Nationalist ( since they are from several different nations) nor Socialist ( many Muslim countries are Monarchies).
Of course you mean "genocidal" by Nazi! But is it fair to call all Muslims Genocidal? Is it true that many Genocides are commited by people who are, or at least, claim to be Muslim. It is also true that many Muslim books ( not the Koran itself) have incitement to genocide.
But if we are too judge all Muslims for what SOME of them do, or what their books say then..... What about other religions? Catholics did the Inquisition..... and the New Testament says "cursed be anyonne who loveth Jesus not". "Anyone who saith that Christ (the son of G-d) has come not in flesh is the Antchrist, that is the devil"
We, Noahides, also have written that thieves should be executed for stealing even less of one cent, and also idolators must be executed. I have never murdered any Hindu!!!!! The Torah also says that any descendant of the Amalequites, even a child, must be executed.
There are Catholics, Jews, Muslims (very few), Noahides... here, and noone has killed each other!
The only ones that have attacked me, not so far as to kill, but destroyed my front door twelve times, are secularists!!!

How about Arab Muslim Nazism :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Arabism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27ath_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/3/3/154714.shtml

[Raulmarrio2000]

Well, my thoughts are clear. The problem are not the religions, but the evil intentions. Jew-haters like anyother evildoers will always manage to take what is at their reach to do their evil. They will use Islam, secularism, Christianity, Atheism, or whatever they may find. The use of Islam against Israel by Arabs is quite new. 20 years ago, most anti-Semite Arabs used pan-Arabism and socialism. Nasser and Khadaffi were not Muslim fundamentalist but rather secular. Arafat, even Muslim, was married to a Christian, so he was not so Islamic. And.... they were all genocidal. Even today, Hussein ( now recently dead) and Assad (still alive and in office) are from Baath, a secular pro-socialist genocidal Arab party.
And waht about the UN's resolution against Zionism? It was voted by most third world countries, not even Arab or Muslim.

[Ultra Requete]

You're crazy read the quran and hadith; What Mahomet pig piss be on him did with Jewish tribes in Medianah; haw he behaded all the men and divided all woman and little children as slaves to his fallowers; he personaly raped three Jewish woman!

[ftf]

Well, my thoughts are clear. The problem are not the religions, but the evil intentions. Jew-haters like anyother evildoers will always manage to take what is at their reach to do their evil. They will use Islam, secularism, Christianity, Atheism, or whatever they may find. The use of Islam against Israel by Arabs is quite new. 20 years ago, most anti-Semite Arabs used pan-Arabism and socialism. Nasser and Khadaffi were not Muslim fundamentalist but rather secular. Arafat, even Muslim, was married to a Christian, so he was not so Islamic. And.... they were all genocidal. Even today, Hussein ( now recently dead) and Assad (still alive and in office) are from Baath, a secular pro-socialist genocidal Arab party.
And waht about the UN's resolution against Zionism? It was voted by most third world countries, not even Arab or Muslim.

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464:
"The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

Ishaq:481:
"The Apostle slew them in their own town. With our troops he surrounded their homes. We shouted out cries in the heat of battle. The Jews were given the Scripture and wasted it. Being blind, they strayed from the Torah. You Jews disbelieved the Qur'an and yet you have tasted the confirmation of what it said. May Allah make our raid on them immortal. May fire burn in their quarter. They will no longer ruin our lands. You have no place here, so be off!"

Tabari VIII:116/Ishaq:511:
"So Muhammad began seizing their herds and their property bit by bit. He conquered Khaybar home by home. The first stronghold defeated was Naim. Next was Qamus, the community of Abi Huqayq. The Messenger took some of its people captive, including Safiyah bt. Huyayy, the wife of Kinanah and her two cousins. The Prophet chose Safiyah for himself."

Ishaq:511:
"When Dihyah protested, wanting to keep Safiyah for himself, the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

[Daniel]

I guess I'd fall into the secular or deformed category. I attended synagogue and Hebrew school at a Conserved synagogue. I was also in USY (United Synagogue Youth) which is also conservative. That's where I met most of the friends who I still have to this day.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

My religion? well a bit confused...... I was raised as a Catholic, though I was pagan in my heart. I became interested in Judaism in my teens and studied Torah alone for years. So my ideas were similar to Samaritans and Karaites ( since I had only the written Torah available). I started conversion to Judaism at 27, but never finished. Now, perhaps Noahide, since I try to do the Seven Mitzvot, but not a pure one. A bit Christian, and also a bit Samaritan since I believe in Guerizim. Anyway I believe Hashem created the world. Do you think it is wrong not to have a well defined religion? After all we are all humans.

I think Jermiah had an ingredient:

1. Be righteous to one another
2. Walk with Gd
3. Be merciful

   
2- how?
by following his laws.