Steven Spielbergs daughter Mikaela enters porno business - Steven fascinated

[Hrvatski Noahid]

It's like a three sec email, "dude says they can dress like this but mine says they can dress like that, no?". It's not your job to dress the non-Jewish women of the world, and therefore you have nothing to lose either way. Maybe find lines other than cursing immodest women to an eternity with Hitler YS"V and "disgusting female behavior" (like you including animals and little girls in there?) when speaking about beautiful modesty laws that ensure societal freedom and it'll endear you more to the particular sex of human that is excellent for curing depression.

The girls I talk to range from not feminist to anti, but if I presented things like you do they wouldn't like me.

What do you mean it's not my job to dress the non-Jewish women? The Noahide Laws are supposed to be the law of the land in Gentile countries. If a woman causes others to sin, I am obligated to compel her to act in the correct way.

[Zelhar]

It seems like a cry for help of a damaged person. She also alludes to having been sexually abused by people who are not from her family. Her rich family should have better protected her and now instead of supporting this they should seek to help her.

[Israel Chai]

There is a concept that if a man gets off by staring at a modest woman’s pinky, he is wicked.

Needless to say staring at her in a bikini and thinking it’s good enough, you don’t benefit from anything holy and nor will that gentile woman.

What benefit is wearing black at night and walking in the middle of the street?  It might be legal but a car will hit you. The same applies to modesty of a gentile and needless to say a Jew

They weren't commanded to be holy. They were commanded to keep from several sins. It does not benefit anyone that they wear bikinis, but if a society is filled with it, people don't pay special attention.

What do you mean it's not my job to dress the non-Jewish women? The Noahide Laws are supposed to be the law of the land in Gentile countries. If a woman causes others to sin, I am obligated to compel her to act in the correct way. If I am endearing or likable is irrelevant. 

Even if it was your job, you aren't even supposed to tell people to do something you're certain they won't listen to, except in the case of extreme sins. It isn't however your job to run around the beach and scream, "no!". You raise your family as you see fit. Being endearing or likable is quite relevant to having anyone that will listen to you. Abraham only convinced the world to do anything because he was the epitome of kindness. Not exactly the vibe you're dropping here bro.

It seems like a cry for help of a damaged person. She also alludes to having been sexually abused by people who are not from her family. Her rich family should have better protected her and now instead of supporting this they should seek to help her.

Agreed. Also look at how she says she can't be financially dependent on them. They won't give you a couple bucks to start a business you can pay them back for? I know people that if you ask for a lifted finger from them demand all your dignity in return, you'd rather screw strangers on a camera than have to eat a walnut off their table.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Even if it was your job, you aren't even supposed to tell people to do something you're certain they won't listen to, except in the case of extreme sins. It isn't however your job to run around the beach and scream, "no!". You raise your family as you see fit. Being endearing or likable is quite relevant to having anyone that will listen to you. Abraham only convinced the world to do anything because he was the epitome of kindness. Not exactly the vibe you're dropping here bro.

Abraham's exceptional kindness was a temporary counterbalance to the attraction and temptation of the general idolatrous culture.

[Dr. Dan]

They weren't commanded to be holy. They were commanded to keep from several sins. It does not benefit anyone that they wear bikinis, but if a society is filled with it, people don't pay special attention.

Even if it was your job, you aren't even supposed to tell people to do something you're certain they won't listen to, except in the case of extreme sins. It isn't however your job to run around the beach and scream, "no!". You raise your family as you see fit. Being endearing or likable is quite relevant to having anyone that will listen to you. Abraham only convinced the world to do anything because he was the epitome of kindness. Not exactly the vibe you're dropping here bro.

Agreed. Also look at how she says she can't be financially dependent on them. They won't give you a couple bucks to start a business you can pay them back for? I know people that if you ask for a lifted finger from them demand all your dignity in return, you'd rather screw strangers on a camera than have to eat a walnut off their table.

If a man makes a sin because he saw a scantly dressed gentile woman, she’s not also responsible for his sin?

[Joe Gutfeld]

Why is this important and a topic on this site?

[Dr. Dan]

Why is this important and a topic on this site?

Because it’s a Jewish site and the whole religion matters and not just eretz yisrael

[Israel Chai]

You keep telling me what I'm supposed to do, yet to you the Noahide Laws are no more than an academic curiosity. They are my life. Is it conceivable that I have a better understanding of my own laws and obligations than you?

In fact, Abraham's success in teaching the world about the Seven Noahide Commandments was only temporary. Most of his students returned to idolatry. Probably because he was too soft.

You're going to have to divorce the conceptual from the personal when analyzing what I say. It is as you have said, an academic curiosity. As such, you should view my opinions as me trying to understand what is right, not making declarations for your life. You may very well know more about the laws of Noah than I. It's likely, I put very little effort into it and you put alot. Regardless, I say what I know, you can disagree and say what you do, and regardless of anything that's said here you should continue to follow your Rabbi, you don't answer to me and every Jew on the street.

Abraham's softness caused other things, like Ishmael. In that case, and still today, there are little fences around the Noachide laws, and so the children weren't likely to keep it, and in a few generations it was all gone. Following Jewish modesty, if it isn't required, may well be an excellent fence. I heard from Rabbi Mizrachi it's not required. Don't move to Florida and wear exclusively green hats because I said that, I'm not your dad.

[Israel Chai]

Yeh but Um if a man sees this and it leads to him sinning, that woman shares the responsibility to his sin whether she was a Jew or non Jew.

If a man sees a woman's finger and takes pleasure, it's on him. For a Jewish woman modesty is required, Jews have laws that we also can't make sins in our minds. I am not aware of any way a Noachide can violate the law in his mind. It certainly leads to sin, but most of the men in the world think of virtually nothing else, it's not a pious thing but they aren't condemned for it, if I understand correctly.

If a man makes a sin because he saw a scantly dressed gentile woman, she’s not also responsible for his sin?

For a Jew. For a gentile, who says he can't think immodestly? If he rapes her now because she was scantily clad, pretty sure that's on him now too. She definitely gets a share in him becoming a more depraved individual, but what exactly does that violate in the Noachide laws?

[ChabadKahanist]

Because it’s a Jewish site and the whole religion matters and not just eretz yisrael

Yeah but Spielberg's adopted daughter is a mulatto & not Jewish!!!!

[Israel Chai]

Yeah but Spielberg's adopted daughter is a mulatto & not Jewish!!!!

Yeah we don't really care about any of them, we're just using this to discuss halachic concepts. It's a mitzvah.

[Noachide]

Rabbi Mizrachi speaks about woman modesty. It starts from 11:32. This is his newest lecture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ba2Ru_4mT0

[Hrvatski Noahid]

You're going to have to divorce the conceptual from the personal when analyzing what I say. It is as you have said, an academic curiosity. As such, you should view my opinions as me trying to understand what is right, not making declarations for your life. You may very well know more about the laws of Noah than I. It's likely, I put very little effort into it and you put alot. Regardless, I say what I know, you can disagree and say what you do, and regardless of anything that's said here you should continue to follow your Rabbi, you don't answer to me and every Jew on the street.

Abraham's softness caused other things, like Ishmael. In that case, and still today, there are little fences around the Noachide laws, and so the children weren't likely to keep it, and in a few generations it was all gone. Following Jewish modesty, if it isn't required, may well be an excellent fence. I heard from Rabbi Mizrachi it's not required. Don't move to Florida and wear exclusively green hats because I said that, I'm not your dad.

For a gentile, who says he can't think immodestly? If he rapes her now because she was scantily clad, pretty sure that's on him now too. She definitely gets a share in him becoming a more depraved individual, but what exactly does that violate in the Noachide laws?

Immodest thoughts and immodest behavior violate the Noahide positive obligation to follow ways of modesty.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Because it’s a Jewish site and the whole religion matters and not just eretz yisrael

Thank you.

[Dr. Dan]

If a man sees a woman's finger and takes pleasure, it's on him. For a Jewish woman modesty is required, Jews have laws that we also can't make sins in our minds. I am not aware of any way a Noachide can violate the law in his mind. It certainly leads to sin, but most of the men in the world think of virtually nothing else, it's not a pious thing but they aren't condemned for it, if I understand correctly.

For a Jew. For a gentile, who says he can't think immodestly? If he rapes her now because she was scantily clad, pretty sure that's on him now too. She definitely gets a share in him becoming a more depraved individual, but what exactly does that violate in the Noachide laws?

Here I’ll put it to you this way. Men are wired differently than women. Jewish men and gentile similar. A normal man as an animal desires mating or looking at different women. But because we were made in God’s image, we should strive to be holy. That’s both Jews and gentiles. In this regard, what is holy for a man to do?  Avoid being in situations that will lead to that normal animal side. That’s for both Jewish and gentile men.

Women by Jewish law  required to be modest. Not sure what the rules are for gentile women. But in Moab and philistine and Egypt, they were not modest and it led to lots of problems. So perhaps if not required by gentile women to be modest (and it’s a mistake if she chooses not to be), all men must be careful because it can lead to wasting seed which is not permitted under Jewish law and possibly by Noahide law.

[Dr. Dan]

Yeah we don't really care about any of them, we're just using this to discuss halachic concepts. It's a mitzvah.

Yes!!

[Dr. Dan]

Rabbi Mizrachi speaks about woman modesty. It starts from 11:32. This is his newest lecture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ba2Ru_4mT0

It’s not on TorahAnytime yet.

[Israel Chai]

Here I’ll put it to you this way. Men are wired differently than women. Jewish men and gentile similar. A normal man as an animal desires mating or looking at different women. But because we were made in God’s image, we should strive to be holy. That’s both Jews and gentiles. In this regard, what is holy for a man to do?  Avoid being in situations that will lead to that normal animal side. That’s for both Jewish and gentile men.

Women by Jewish law  required to be modest. Not sure what the rules are for gentile women. But in Moab and philistine and Egypt, they were not modest and it led to lots of problems. So perhaps if not required by gentile women to be modest (and it’s a mistake if she chooses not to be), all men must be careful because it can lead to wasting seed which is not permitted under Jewish law and possibly by Noahide law.

I know from before the flood, it says the ground was soggy with the endless wasted seed of men and the world was destroyed in part for that. Even though the decree to destroy the world wasn't signed until they signed marriage contracts for men and men and humans and animals, we can infer that it is forbidden. Rabbi Mizrachi's new talmid speaker Reuven says that some scientist proved it was murder in a recent lecture, didn't watch it though, I already know anyways.

If we're discussing piety, sure there are tons of things for Jews and non-Jews you can do, but it's not required to be a chassid, I'm just trying to figure out what the basic law here is.

I don't care what you say when it comes to my personal practical observance, but I fear you are spreading an unacceptably permissive standard.

Immodest thoughts and immodest behavior violate the Noahide positive obligation to follow ways of modesty. I'm not sure if I can give a more specific answer.

When you were all like "don't tell me what to do" it felt like you cared in that regard at least 1%. Maybe I am, it's what I heard I think it's right. It's a mitzvah for me to discuss Torah as long as I'm trying to do the right thing even if I'm wrong in the end.

Which one of the seven is follow ways of modesty?

[Hrvatski Noahid]

When you were all like "don't tell me what to do" it felt like you cared in that regard at least 1%. Maybe I am, it's what I heard I think it's right. It's a mitzvah for me to discuss Torah as long as I'm trying to do the right thing even if I'm wrong in the end.

Which one of the seven is follow ways of modesty?

It is a positive aspect of the Noahide prohibition of forbidden relations.

[Israel Chai]

It is a positive aspect of the Noahide prohibition of forbidden relations.

So you hold that as complete law and not just an extra stringency for piety?

[Hrvatski Noahid]

So you hold that as complete law and not just an extra stringency for piety?

Yes of course. Within the seven commandments, each one has a negative and positive aspect.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Here I’ll put it to you this way. Men are wired differently than women. Jewish men and gentile similar. A normal man as an animal desires mating or looking at different women. But because we were made in God’s image, we should strive to be holy. That’s both Jews and gentiles. In this regard, what is holy for a man to do?  Avoid being in situations that will lead to that normal animal side. That’s for both Jewish and gentile men.

Women by Jewish law  required to be modest. Not sure what the rules are for gentile women. But in Moab and philistine and Egypt, they were not modest and it led to lots of problems. So perhaps if not required by gentile women to be modest (and it’s a mistake if she chooses not to be), all men must be careful because it can lead to wasting seed which is not permitted under Jewish law and possibly by Noahide law.

Gentile women are obligated to be modest and Gentile men are forbidden to spill their semen wastefully. This is a clear ruling.

[Israel Chai]

Gentile women are obligated to be modest and Gentile men are forbidden to spill their semen wastefully. This is a clear ruling.

There's no question about spilling seed. Based on my study I don't see any law saying what gentile men are allowed or not allowed to think about.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

There's no question about spilling seed. Based on my study I don't see any law saying what gentile men are allowed or not allowed to think about.

In addition to the positive obligation to have modest thoughts, a Gentile who thought about idol worship is punished by Heaven for his evil thoughts according to Tractate Kiddushin 39b and Tosafot there. There are other examples.   

[Dr. Dan]

I know from before the flood, it says the ground was soggy with the endless wasted seed of men and the world was destroyed in part for that. Even though the decree to destroy the world wasn't signed until they signed marriage contracts for men and men and humans and animals, we can infer that it is forbidden. Rabbi Mizrachi's new talmid speaker Reuven says that some scientist proved it was murder in a recent lecture, didn't watch it though, I already know anyways.

If we're discussing piety, sure there are tons of things for Jews and non-Jews you can do, but it's not required to be a chassid, I'm just trying to figure out what the basic law here is.

When you were all like "don't tell me what to do" it felt like you cared in that regard at least 1%. Maybe I am, it's what I heard I think it's right. It's a mitzvah for me to discuss Torah as long as I'm trying to do the right thing even if I'm wrong in the end.

Which one of the seven is follow ways of modesty?

I heard that the final straw for the flood was because people stole from another