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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #100 on: March 19, 2020, 05:04:13 PM »
The worst feeling is knowing that you can't escape your thoughts no matter where you go.

Gaining control of my regret is a work in progress, but I see now I do not want to escape. I ride this beast too.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #101 on: March 19, 2020, 05:08:27 PM »
So say I hire you as a delivery driver. You come back the first day, all the packages are out, but you get 5 parking tickets and I lose money. I'm mad, I say OK you did your job, but be smart tomorrow. Next day you make sure not to move the car one inch, you sit right there and come back and the end of the day and say, "I got no tickets!" B"H I say, and the packages? You say you didn't deliver any, and so I fire you.

The point is that it's more important to worry about making more mitvot than worry you'll make a sin. Make every effort to follow Hashem's "traffic law", but your priority is to do good. Go out, prepare a great warm meal, package it, and leave it at the door of a young guy who has trouble making ends meet, ring the bell and run away. You'll feel great about that for a while, keep doing kind things for people and make sure they don't know, you can't possibly stay depressed unless there's a chemical imbalance there.

One of the things that helps me is going to the pizza parlor. It's a ritual of mine. I make sure to enjoy the food and I give a big tip. I also absolutely love sparrows. I feed at least three sparrows regularly. Tomorrow is World Sparrow Day and that gives me sincere joy.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #102 on: March 19, 2020, 05:16:29 PM »
One of the things that helps me is going to the pizza parlor. It's a ritual of mine. I make sure to enjoy the food and I give a big tip. I also absolutely love sparrows. I feed at least three sparrows regularly. Tomorrow is World Sparrow Day and that gives me sincere joy.

I have to walk up and down a mountain to buy anything. At least if G-d forbid I was tortured for information, I would last a very long time now. I have to make an effort not to be depressed at how happy the birds and the fat groundhog under my shed make me. In the city any house I get in a month there are 10 people there constantly and in and out 24/7, it has taken all of my psychological skills to maintain my peace of mind with this level of isolation, especially since just before I was in yeshiva and constantly surrounded by even more people than in my house.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #103 on: March 19, 2020, 05:23:26 PM »
You can simply chose different thoughts.

At least look at how self-assured happy people communicate and copy that in the most authentic way that is still true to your character, and fake it till you make it.

My Jewish teacher told me to think of my mind as my home. When I shut the door, nothing can enter. Similarly and ideally, when I shut my mind, no bad thoughts can enter it. But of course, they do.

I have zero self-confidence and I don't want it. I have confidence in Hashem alone that He will eventually give me a full recovery.     
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #104 on: March 19, 2020, 05:25:39 PM »
Gaining control of my regret is a work in progress, but I see now I do not want to escape. I ride this beast too.

I know you do, bro. I know you do.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #105 on: March 19, 2020, 05:31:25 PM »
I have to walk up and down a mountain to buy anything. At least if G-d forbid I was tortured for information, I would last a very long time now. I have to make an effort not to be depressed at how happy the birds and the fat groundhog under my shed make me. In the city any house I get in a month there are 10 people there constantly and in and out 24/7, it has taken all of my psychological skills to maintain my peace of mind with this level of isolation, especially since just before I was in yeshiva and constantly surrounded by even more people than in my house.

May I ask how you came to be in the mountains? Somehow I doubt it was voluntary.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #106 on: March 19, 2020, 08:11:23 PM »
My Jewish teacher told me to think of my mind as my home. When I shut the door, nothing can enter. Similarly and ideally, when I shut my mind, no bad thoughts can enter it. But of course, they do.

I have zero self-confidence and I don't want it. I have confidence in Hashem alone that He will eventually give me a full recovery.   

Well Hashem made you and knew what you would face before the world was created and made a you that could face it, so confidence in Hashem includes being confident that he made you strong enough, adding that Hashem wants you to talk to him and ask him for what you want.

May I ask how you came to be in the mountains? Somehow I doubt it was voluntary.

Gave up my house and everything to go to yeshiva. It's a sane direct family member who isn't an idolater, and wasn't using the house. Didn't have any cash when I got back from yeshiva and took three months walking with a broom stick and mop stick to the damn welfare office to get disability, and even then they asked me to give them a dozen forms, like proof i was currently attending school when I told them I wasn't, so got a free lawyer from the Jewish community to call them, and all of a sudden they didn't need all those forms. Restocking the finances. Not really going anywhere since the doctors usually give me a paper for one or two months since they really don't have any idea, so I have to keep going back and getting a new form, and takes them 2 months to put me back on disability each time.

Anyone who tells you socialist systems give you your needs is a liar or retard. If you are a paperwork expert and know all the government regulations, you get it right away, and if you really need help and can't spend a literal month filling out and finding obscure forms, you get a spit in the face and a dozen agents talking to you like you're a thief and an animal. I have seen more than a dozen people in the welfare office saying they want to blow up the building when they've been at it for months, and some welfare queen comes in with 5 kids and tells the agent what forms to get and corrects the endless mistakes they make to make it take long, and walks out with cash. The system is designed to create dependents and ensure only highly educated and hardworking people can get it, not help anyone. I eat a lot of soup.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #107 on: March 19, 2020, 09:59:57 PM »
Gave up my house and everything to go to yeshiva. It's a sane direct family member who isn't an idolater, and wasn't using the house. Didn't have any cash when I got back from yeshiva and took three months walking with a broom stick and mop stick to the damn welfare office to get disability, and even then they asked me to give them a dozen forms, like proof i was currently attending school when I told them I wasn't, so got a free lawyer from the Jewish community to call them, and all of a sudden they didn't need all those forms. Restocking the finances. Not really going anywhere since the doctors usually give me a paper for one or two months since they really don't have any idea, so I have to keep going back and getting a new form, and takes them 2 months to put me back on disability each time.

Anyone who tells you socialist systems give you your needs is a liar or retard. If you are a paperwork expert and know all the government regulations, you get it right away, and if you really need help and can't spend a literal month filling out and finding obscure forms, you get a spit in the face and a dozen agents talking to you like you're a thief and an animal. I have seen more than a dozen people in the welfare office saying they want to blow up the building when they've been at it for months, and some welfare queen comes in with 5 kids and tells the agent what forms to get and corrects the endless mistakes they make to make it take long, and walks out with cash. The system is designed to create dependents and ensure only highly educated and hardworking people can get it, not help anyone. I eat a lot of soup.

I'm sorry to hear about your hardships. I am the secretary of an international society. When we ask the state for donations, we get so much paperwork we just say no thanks. Although my position is relatively powerful, I don't earn much. Still, if you need financial help, let me know and I will give what I can. The only paperwork you'll need is a Western Union form. 
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #108 on: March 19, 2020, 11:13:40 PM »
I'm sorry to hear about your hardships. I am the secretary of an international society. When we ask the state for donations, we get so much paperwork we just say no thanks. Although my position is relatively powerful, I don't earn much. Still, if you need financial help, let me know and I will give what I can. The only paperwork you'll need is a Western Union form.

I am thankful for your offer, but I am not a charity case. Disability is a legitimate thing, I can not work. I have enough to eat and go to the chiropractor usually. There are also Jewish food banks and stuff people deliver to me from, so I'll survive. It'll be about a month with my MRI results, and then they'll probably put me another six months before I have to starve writing paperwork again. I have survived worse and didn't ask anyone to help me. This house I have free rent, so I'll make it. Anyways, unless you have millions you want to invest in advancing your nation's industry, money to have a bit of meat for a month and then it's the same thing again. I just need a ride right now to the robotics company I work for so I can see the confidential videos of the new arm to manufacture aircraft and write the articles. Fingers still work.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #109 on: March 19, 2020, 11:16:15 PM »
And like not easy to get a ride. First no one wants to come to this rock, second I have to lie down in the back seat, sometimes there's no room sometimes the person is paranoid they could get a ticket. I really miss working so much.
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« Reply #110 on: March 19, 2020, 11:28:34 PM »
I am thankful for your offer, but I am not a charity case. Disability is a legitimate thing, I can not work. I have enough to eat and go to the chiropractor usually. There are also Jewish food banks and stuff people deliver to me from, so I'll survive. It'll be about a month with my MRI results, and then they'll probably put me another six months before I have to starve writing paperwork again. I have survived worse and didn't ask anyone to help me. This house I have free rent, so I'll make it. Anyways, unless you have millions you want to invest in advancing your nation's industry, money to have a bit of meat for a month and then it's the same thing again. I just need a ride right now to the robotics company I work for so I can see the confidential videos of the new arm to manufacture aircraft and write the articles. Fingers still work.

I myself don't have millions, but the society I work for connects buyers, sellers, investors and project owners. If you're making a business offer, I have to decline. I avoid mixing my private Jewish contacts with business. I did so twice and it didn't end well.
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« Reply #111 on: March 19, 2020, 11:35:59 PM »
And like not easy to get a ride. First no one wants to come to this rock, second I have to lie down in the back seat, sometimes there's no room sometimes the person is paranoid they could get a ticket. I really miss working so much.

I can't imagine how hard it is to be physically disabled. Although my mental health is not good, my body is healthy and I work a lot. I was just about to finalize a huge business before the world ended.   
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #112 on: March 19, 2020, 11:50:59 PM »
Who is honored? He who honors others.

That's pirkei avos, right?

Heard it in shiur Torah from a rabbi. Won’t forget it.

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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #113 on: March 20, 2020, 01:35:18 AM »
I can't imagine how hard it is to be physically disabled. Although my mental health is not good, my body is healthy and I work a lot. I was just about to finalize a huge business before the world ended.

I'm not actually disabled disabled. It's like there's a gremlin at the very base of my spine drilling his way out, and an army of goblins in my upper legs shooting bullets out. I didn't pay attention to it in yeshiva, pain isn't relevant to me, but apparently it makes it worse. I have a 99% deteriorated part of my lower spine with arthritic spikes all over. Doctor said I shouldn't sit down any more or G-d forbid what could take place. The chrio brought it down from 90% pain to 20%.

Just for paperwork for the government, I went to a the most prestigious pile of crap clinic here and saw some retard doctors. They say (G-d forbid) I will be in pain forever and there's nothing they can do because they know nothing and have small brains, so they offered me lots of injections of pain medication. Apparently weak people go crazy with pain. I said thank you and got the paperwork.

The chiropractor is a legitimate doctor instead of a waste of talent medical one, and he says he can fix me in three months, and then I have to do fun exercises every day for 6 months and then I just have to live actively and I'll be fine.
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« Reply #114 on: March 21, 2020, 02:40:04 PM »
I'm not actually disabled disabled. It's like there's a gremlin at the very base of my spine drilling his way out, and an army of goblins in my upper legs shooting bullets out. I didn't pay attention to it in yeshiva, pain isn't relevant to me, but apparently it makes it worse. I have a 99% deteriorated part of my lower spine with arthritic spikes all over. Doctor said I shouldn't sit down any more or G-d forbid what could take place. The chrio brought it down from 90% pain to 20%.

Just for paperwork for the government, I went to a the most prestigious pile of crap clinic here and saw some retard doctors. They say (G-d forbid) I will be in pain forever and there's nothing they can do because they know nothing and have small brains, so they offered me lots of injections of pain medication. Apparently weak people go crazy with pain. I said thank you and got the paperwork.

The chiropractor is a legitimate doctor instead of a waste of talent medical one, and he says he can fix me in three months, and then I have to do fun exercises every day for 6 months and then I just have to live actively and I'll be fine.

Wish you the best friend. I will pray for your fully recovery.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #115 on: March 22, 2020, 12:46:45 AM »
Wish you the best friend. I will pray for your fully recovery.

B"H chiro cancelled every appointment except for around 5 people, me included, so I can keep getting treated while the commie virus is going around.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #116 on: March 22, 2020, 05:57:00 PM »
Maybe the democrats came out with the virus to  help  crash the stock market to ruin all the gains during Trump's time in office.

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« Reply #117 on: March 23, 2020, 02:46:31 AM »
Maybe the democrats came out with the virus to  help  crash the stock market to ruin all the gains during Trump's time in office.

They're certainly cheering it.

My aunt and my cousins have caught corona in France. My aunt as acute bronchitis. Luckily we make them tough in my family, so they're all alright.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #118 on: March 23, 2020, 02:50:30 AM »
Is Russia Covering Up Chinese Virus Cases?
Mon Mar 23, 2020 Daniel Greenfield

Is a totalitarian dictatorship covering stuff up? Probably.

If there's any lesson to take away from the Chinese Virus, it's that dictatorships can't be trusted to tell the truth about internal conditions. And one of the major bugs of globalization was the insistence that we had to integrate totalitarian regimes into the network with the Chinese Virus as the end result. And of course it goes beyond China. The so-called "international community" to which the expert class, the media, and the weight of globalist opinion pays tribute to is little better than a collection of dictatorships. With results like these.

    Doctors in Russia say the government is covering up coronavirus cases in the country and forcing medical staff to treat infectious patients without protective equipment.

    Anastasia Vasilyeva, the head of Russia's Alliance of Doctors trade union, voiced the accusation in a video published on Thursday.

    She called on Russian doctors to go public with information about the "true" state of the coronavirus outbreak in the country.

    "While the whole world is facing an outbreak of a new coronavirus, Russia is facing an outbreak of a community-acquired pneumonia," Vasilyeva said. "And as usual, we're facing the lie of the authorities."

    She said Russian authorities were referring to coronavirus cases as ordinary pneumonia, implying that they're distinct from the coronavirus pandemic.

That's actually a thorny question. Different countries classify deaths in which the Chinese Virus is a factor, differently.

But as to what's actually going on in Russia, much as in China or Iran, or any other member of the international tyrannical community, who knows? We can't trust the authorities. And that means that there's no reason to expose ourselves to any risk based on their claims.

If you believe Russia's numbers, then Poland has a growing Chinese Virus problem (not to mention so many other countries), but they don't. Meanwhile Russia is the one with a sizable Chinese population.

Forget trust, but verify. Here's a motto for a post-global world. Don't trust.
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« Reply #119 on: March 23, 2020, 12:20:06 PM »
They're certainly cheering it.

My aunt and my cousins have caught corona in France. My aunt as acute bronchitis. Luckily we make them tough in my family, so they're all alright.
I do hope that they will be OK.

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« Reply #120 on: March 23, 2020, 03:44:22 PM »
I do hope that they will be OK.

Honestly, they wouldn't even have known, gave tiny little symptoms, and just checked to be sure and sure enough all three tested positive, all three were over the virus by the time they were tested, and the inconvenience is France ordered them to stay inside their house for 20 days and even for food not to leave.

Thank you for your kind wishes all the same.
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« Reply #122 on: March 24, 2020, 04:55:09 PM »
Bus after bus of dead Italians rolling down the roads in Italy to be cremated. It's truly harrowing.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #123 on: March 25, 2020, 12:54:34 AM »
Wuhan Virus Numbers: Nightly Update March 24, 2020-As Of 2359GMT

Posted at 11:30 pm on March 24, 2020 by Mike Ford

Wuhan Virus Numbers: Nightly Update March 24, 2020-As Of 2359GMT

President Donald Trump speaks about the coronavirus in the James Brady Briefing Room, Monday, March 23, 2020, in Washington, as Attorney General William Barr and Dr. Deborah Birx, White House coronavirus response coordinator, listen. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

This is the 8th in a series of nightly updates regarding Wuhan Virus numbers in these United States.

The trend line in American Wuhan Virus fatalities compared to total infections, has shown a small uptick. As of 2359 GMT, March 24, 2020 the U.S. Mortality Rate (M/R) (calculated by dividing the number of reported U.S. Infections into the number of reported U.S Fatalities) was 1.30%. This number had been steadily declining since March 3, when the rate was over 7%. It is still below 2%.

Red State will continue to publish this Wuhan Virus Update showing total reported U.S. Cases and Total U.S. Fatalities from the disease, along with appropriate commentary regarding any observable trends until it’s determined to be no longer useful to our readers.

Wuhan Virus Numbers: Nightly Update March 24, 2020-As Of 2359GMT

On the left, this first chart shows the data table, starting February 29, the date of the first reported U.S fatality and continuing until today. On the right, are two graphical representations of the data. The top graph shows the decline of the Mortality Rate. As you can see from the numbers on the left and chart on the upper right, today shows a slight uptick (2/100%) of the M/R from previous reports. My assessment is that the M/R will ultimately continue its downward path until test materials and equipment are fully fielded and the supply chain is well established and fully supportive of demand from the field. At that point the calculated M/R will reflect what it actually has been all along. At today’s Presidential “Virtual Town Hall” today in the White House Rose Garden, Dr Birx made an important point, “In the last 8 days, we’ve done more tests than South Korea did in 8 weeks.” Bottom line, increased testing is giving us greater visibility of actual infections while driving the estimated Mortality Rate lower.

The bottom graph shows the total U.S Fatalities. Today’s numbers are somewhat concerning. Instead of edging to the right, it is continuing on an arithmetic, not exponential track upwards. Whether this is indeed a harbinger of worse to come, merely a spike or just the Fatality count lagging behind the count of newly discovered cases. As I noted when there was “good news,” one or even two days, does not make a trend.

Wuhan Virus Numbers: Nightly Update March 24, 2020-As Of 2359GMT

This chart is a “What If” graphic. It represents the M/R for reported infections. It also shows the M/R if we assume for each reported case of Wuhan Virus, there are 1, 2 or 3 other persons out there with it. For today’s report:

M/R = 1.30%

+1 = 0.65%
+2 = 0.43%
+3 = 0.32%

If you believe that there is a good chance that for each known person infected, there are 3 others out there who haven’t been reported, then the United States Wuhan Virus is now approaching the same CDC claimed M/R for our seasonal Flu. All of this could change in a nanosecond, but for now, once again, I am still cautiously optimistic.

We hope this is of some value. Whether it is or isn’t, please let me know in the comments.

Prayers for all the folks on the front lines of this effort who are putting themselves at risk on our behalf.
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Re: Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s
« Reply #124 on: March 25, 2020, 07:57:02 AM »
Our resident happy man over here claims there is a new virus for every country or every person or every one of his brain cells. Viruses do mutate naturally as explained in this article, but luckily, virtually no significant mutation has taken place, and therefore a vaccine would prevent all the current cases and one vaccine should cover people for many years, instead of needing a yearly flu vaccine like old people get. So that theory is debunked, not that it actually needed to be any more than reptilian aliens that are somehow Zionist controlling the black people to exterminate the white race (there's also really no need to entertain such people) and my suspicion that this is a bioweapon is reduced to very slight chance. So to people saying this is just like the flu, that would be super bad if it was, it's not, it's its own thing.


https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/03/25/scientists-report-good-news-covid-19-is-not-mutating-quickly-means-vaccine-could-provide-lasting-immunity/
Scientists Report Good News: COVID-19 Is Not Mutating Quickly, Means Vaccine Could Provide Lasting Immunity

Posted at 6:00 am on March 25, 2020 by Elizabeth Vaughn

Scientists Report Good News: COVID-19 Is Not Mutating Quickly, Means Vaccine Could Provide Lasting Immunity

In this April 12, 2018 photo lab technician extracts DNA for whole genome sequencing at the Colorado Department of Public Health

 

The Washington Post has reported some good news on the Chinese virus front. Scientists at Johns Hopkins University had feared that COVID-19’s genetic code would mutate rapidly meaning that it would be difficult to create a vaccine that would provide long-lasting immunity.

Joel Achenbach, who covers science at The Washington Post, writes that its genetic code “is not mutating significantly as it circulates through the human population” and “that relative stability suggests the virus is less likely to become more or less dangerous as it spreads.” He explains:

    All viruses evolve over time, accumulating mutations as they replicate imperfectly inside a host’s cells in tremendous numbers and then spread through a population, with some of those mutations persisting through natural selection. The new coronavirus has proofreading machinery, however, and that reduces the “error rate” and the pace of mutation. It looks pretty much the same everywhere it has appeared, the scientists say, and there is no evidence that some strains are deadlier than others.

    SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the disease covid-19, is similar to coronaviruses that circulate naturally in bats. It jumped into the human species last year in Wuhan, China, probably through an intermediate species — possibly a pangolin, an endangered anteater whose scales are trafficked for traditional medicine.

Achenbach spoke to Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory molecular geneticist Peter Thielen who said his team has studied 1,000 samples of the virus. They found “there are only about four to 10 genetic differences between the strains that have infected people in the United States and the original virus that spread in Wuhan.”

Thielen explained, “That’s a relatively small number of mutations for having passed through a large number of people. At this point, the mutation rate of the virus would suggest that the vaccine developed for SARS-CoV-2 would be a single vaccine, rather than a new vaccine every year like the flu vaccine.”

Achenbach spoke to two other virologists, Stanley Perlman of the University of Iowa and Benjamin Neuman of Texas A&M University at Texarkana, who confirmed Thielen’s opinion that “the virus appears relatively stable.”

“The virus has not mutated to any significant extent,” Perlman said.

Neuman told Achenbach:

    Just one ‘pretty bad’ strain for everybody so far. If it’s still around in a year, by that point we might have some diversity.

    Flu does have one trick up its sleeve that coronaviruses do not have — the flu virus genome is broken up into several segments, each of which codes for a gene. When two flu viruses are in the same cell, they can swap some segments, potentially creating a new combination instantly — this is how the H1N1 ‘swine’ flu originated.

According to the BBC, there are currently more than 20 vaccines against COVID-19 in development, noting that one in particular has just begun clinical trials in humans, skipping the typical animal research phase.

Last week, it was reported that Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute (KPWHRI) in Seattle was starting a phase 1 clinical trial. A press release on the National Institute of Health’s (NIH) website said:

    The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the NIH, is funding the trial. KPWHRI is part of NIAID’s Infectious Diseases Clinical Research Consortium. The open-label trial will enroll 45 healthy adult volunteers ages 18 to 55 years over approximately 6 weeks. The first participant received the investigational vaccine today.

    The study is evaluating different doses of the experimental vaccine for safety and its ability to induce an immune response in participants. This is the first of multiple steps in the clinical trial process for evaluating the potential benefit of the vaccine.

    The vaccine is called mRNA-1273 and was developed by NIAID scientists and their collaborators at the biotechnology company Moderna, Inc., based in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

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