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The first Jewish woman on the U.S. Supreme Court, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, died Friday night as millions of American Jews were getting ready to celebrate the first night of Rosh Hashanah — the Jewish new year.

Justice Stephen Breyer learned midway through the traditional Mourner's Kaddish that his colleague had died. When word of Ginsburg's death spread, many Jews were in services, praying from their homes as congregations broadcast over livestream.

Rabbi Shira Stutman fought back tears from a mostly empty Sixth and I Synagogue in Washington, as she delivered the news toward the end of the service.

"In the book of Leviticus, when Aaron the high priest is told of the death of his sons, the next words are very famous ones," Stutman said. "It says, 'Va'yidom Aharon, and Aaron was silent.' And it's true. I don't know what the rabbinic words are in this moment, except here's what I know, which are the prayers that we have in front of us."

Blocks away, people gathered outside the Supreme Court singing the Mourner's Kaddish. Blasts of a shofar echoed over the plaza.

For Sheila Katz, hearing that sound from the court's steps somehow felt right.

"The shofar is blown as a literal wake-up call to the Jewish people — a signal that we need to act toward bettering ourselves and healing the world around us," Katz said.

In Michigan Saturday morning, Temple Israel Rabbi Jennifer Kaluzny went on a walk with a friend before services. The news was almost all they talked about.

"Here we are trying to embrace the sweetness of the new year, embrace hope, and we get this news of one of the great ones of our generation," Kaluzny said. "When we're thinking about the Book of Life. All of these feelings and emotions and fundamentals of our holiday and our faith are coming together as we remember this woman who lived the idea of equality, of the divinity of every human being."

So Friday night after the dinner plates were cleared and services complete, Kaluzny piled into bed with her kids. They read a children's book about Ginsburg and they talked about her legacy.

"When I sit with a family when someone has died, that's what we do," she said. "We sit and we tell stories."

Decades ago, during Ginsburg's confirmation hearing, she told senators her own story. She talked about her father, a Jewish immigrant, and her mother, barely a second-generation American.

"Their parents had the foresight to leave the old country, when Jewish ancestry and faith meant exposure to pogroms and denigration of one's human worth," she said. "What has become of me could happen only in America."

Years later, on Rosh Hashanah, Ginsburg surprised worshipers with a speech during services, and she drew another link between Judaism and her lifelong pursuit of justice.

"The Jewish religion is an ethical religion." Ginsburg told the congregation. "That is, we are taught to do right, to love mercy, do justice, not because there's gonna be any reward in heaven or punishment in hell. We live righteously because that's how people should live."



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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2020, 12:19:22 AM »
You tell them "better to stay home than drive to shul on shabbos" they say kay and then do this. Also, are the deform banning male schmabbus now? I havent heard a deform schmabbi that wasnt a wonan in a while.
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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2020, 01:26:30 AM »
You tell them "better to stay home than drive to shul on shabbos" they say kay and then do this. Also, are the deform banning male schmabbus now? I havent heard a deform schmabbi that wasnt a wonan in a while.
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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2020, 02:52:30 PM »
He finds out during mourner's kaddish?  It's bad enough they desecrate the Sabbath to play female-dressup rabbi on zoom, but while this is happening they don't even respect the mourner's kaddish and instead talk to colleagues and staffers while it happens?????  Truly sick

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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2020, 03:19:01 PM »
"Conservative" isn't any better!!!!

Open-"orthodox", reconstructionist blah blah, they're like calling protestants catholics, the protestants will be offended but they came from them. I was banned from the big conservative schmudism website for Jewish questions' talking page, because I said the reform had treif festival and someone's like they're a conservative schmew and I'm like same thing and they're like waa no [I only eat pork at Chinese restuarants and pork products in reality] I don't eat pork and banned.
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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2020, 03:20:39 PM »
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/09/justice-ginsburgs-death-raises-election-stakes-daniel-greenfield/

Justice Ginsburg's Death Raises the Election Stakes
Fri Sep 18, 2020 Daniel Greenfield

Anyone who thought that the election stakes had gotten as high as they were ever going to has been surprised over and over again.

This year has been one long shock and awe campaign with wild cards being drawn from the deck.

Justice Ginsburg's death wasn't entirely surprising, she had a long series of medical issues at an advanced age, but her death raises the stakes of the election again.  There will be Senate Republicans who will be tempted to play by the rules. Senator Murkowski has already announced that she won't vote to replace her. As did Senator Collins and Grassley. The first two were expected. The last one less so. 

If enough Senate Republicans defect, then this election will come down to the Supreme Court seat for an even more explosive campaign.

But they might want to remember that while Ginsburg was radical for her time, she had lived long enough that, despite the Notorious RBG routine that her admirers were pulling, she had become the voice of common sense compared to the sorts of people whom the Democrats would pick to replace her.

Ginsburg continued to rule well to the Left, but she repeatedly expressed skepticism of radical leftist proposals which is more than Obama nominees like Kagan or Sotomayor have ever done. Anyone the Dems would nominate, (not fake nominate like Merrick Garland), will be further to the Left than Kagan or Sotomayor.

And will pull America further to the Left.

President Trump recently released a list of potential court nominees. It is a good list. After the Gorsuch disaster, a Ginsburg replacement needs to be bulletproof. A constitutional conservative with integrity and solid principles, rather than another insider who has spent their entire career building up to this moment.

Because while America can't afford another Kagan or Sotomayor, it can't afford another Roberts or Gorsuch either.
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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2020, 03:21:42 PM »
I think we still need to appeal our verdict really hard on Yom Kippur.
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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2020, 05:32:16 PM »
He finds out during mourner's kaddish?  It's bad enough they desecrate the Sabbath to play female-dressup rabbi on zoom, but while this is happening they don't even respect the mourner's kaddish and instead talk to colleagues and staffers while it happens?????  Truly sick


Plus you can't even read Kaddish over Zoom on a weekday. You need a minyan.


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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2020, 03:20:55 AM »


Plus you can't even read Kaddish over Zoom on a weekday. You need a minyan.

They don't follow Jewish law. That is well established. It would be unrealistic to expect them to follow or even know this law, or any Orthodox practices.  My point is that even so, the least they could do is demonstrate some decorum and respect.  Why is even that too much to ask of them?

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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2020, 02:29:16 PM »
They are the ones who would say one should say a bracha over a ham sandwich.. Then again...if they knew what a bracha was...
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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2020, 11:19:28 AM »
They are the ones who would say one should say a bracha over a ham sandwich.. Then again...if they knew what a bracha was...

Itd be like the femenazis against the kotel that only wear tefillin to protest. The only bracha theyll ask you to make is over pig.
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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2020, 11:21:19 AM »
Lol with a special addition to the evil bracha for eating on yom kippur and xmas.
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Re: Deform Jews' Chillul Shabbat Zoom Services Announce Ginsburg Death
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2020, 12:05:12 PM »
Lol with a special addition to the evil bracha for eating on yom kippur and xmas.


This year X-mas falls on a fast day. 10 Tevet is Friday, December 25. That's a good day for it because one of the things we mourn is the creation of Xtianity.

https://www.inner.org/times/tevet/E68-0410.php