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Should Columbus Day be banned?

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2007, 11:24:36 PM »
Ooooooohhhhhhhhh! Christianwhitenation: What's the matter with you? You never let anyone outside the family know what you're thinking again!  :D

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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2007, 11:29:40 PM »
Lol my dad was a cop and hated the wops how ran illegal things.

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2007, 12:01:04 AM »


Y'know what? I'm tired of the Native American's bitching about how they were conquered and lost their lands. THEY WEREN't DOING ANYTHING WITH IT!

They spent thousands of years butt-nekkid running around living in the stone age, and they would have continued for thousands more that way if the Europeans didn't show up.

Well, I prefer the modern world thank you very much. So now, Native Americans, shaddup, stop bitching, and let me know when the cocktail bar opens by the blackjack tables!  8)

Wow! So not only should the blacks not b*tch and should be thankful about slavery and should actually be thankful that we took him here as slaves. But you're using the same type of mentality about the Native Americans! I don't think it's fair or reasonable to expect any people to welcome and be thankful for any outside invaders coming in and conquering and killing them. By that stretch of logic, the Jews shoulda stopped bitching about being exiled from Israel and shoulda just accepted and been thankful for what happened.

I don't b*tch about great-great-great-great-great-great-granpa building the pyramids as a slave, so I expect the same from everybody else born recently that grew up with cable tv and central air conditioning and never saw a day of hardship in their lives. No Illegitimate B*itching about something that took place 200+ years before you were born!
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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2007, 12:03:39 AM »
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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2007, 07:16:37 AM »
Let me make one thing perfectly clear. I never said that Christopher Columbus was evil. Since I'm a speech-language therapist, I don't even teach them anything about Columbus, unless there's a way of tying it in with their language issues. What I'm trying to point out is that it is the liberal education system that created all of the myths about Columbus regarding how the King thought the world was flat and that Columbus sought out to sail the world for the purpose of proving that the world was round. That's all a myth. The real history is that Columbus wanted to sail around the world in the opposite direction to get to India so they wouldn't have to worry about China interfering with them. The King's grievance wasn't that the world was flat and the Columbus was going to fall off the edge of the earth. The real grievance is that the world was too big for him to sail all the way around world in the other direction. Columbus thought he landed in India which he didn't. So he was mistaken about where he landed as well as underestimating the size of the world. It was Amerigo Vespucci that recognized that this was a new continent and not India, and that's why we are called America instead of Columbia today.

But keep in mind, I'm not bashing Columbus. I created this poll to be facetious in light of all of the other silly polls being discussed right now. So ha ha, don't take this poll seriously.

Exactly old good Chris tried to get Paortugese king as sponsor; but Portugeese navigators knew that Columbus had made errors in artmetics; so he went to "catholic kings" of Castilia-Leon and Aragone (Spain was proclaimed in 1516 AD) and they were so upset about Ottoman Turks blocking the eastern routes to China and Indias and so willing to get rid of his naggings and all this spanish hidalgos out of work (the last stronghold of Moors fall in 1492 AD) that they gave him three old ships so they were very suprised to see him back. So of course it shoud be Amerigo Vespuci another italian btw day.
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12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2007, 10:23:17 AM »
Ultra you are right!

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
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« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2007, 11:55:12 AM »
I like it Vito.LOL Erika might be offended by it!.My grandfathers name was Antonio Vito.We came here from Bologna and Sannicondro de Bari.

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2007, 01:43:46 PM »
I like it Vito.LOL Erika might be offended by it!.My grandfathers name was Antonio Vito.We came here from Bologna and Sannicondro de Bari.

Allora tu parle italiano?  ;D

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2007, 02:08:46 PM »
Parlo solo un poco Italiano,Por que yo capice mas o menos Espanol.Yo Estudio en la universidad para 2 anos!Linguas es mi paso di tiempo.ME gusta esta lingua.Pero yo de la Estados Unidos.

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2007, 02:10:33 PM »


Y'know what? I'm tired of the Native American's bitching about how they were conquered and lost their lands. THEY WEREN't DOING ANYTHING WITH IT!

They spent thousands of years butt-nekkid running around living in the stone age, and they would have continued for thousands more that way if the Europeans didn't show up.

Well, I prefer the modern world thank you very much. So now, Native Americans, shaddup, stop bitching, and let me know when the cocktail bar opens by the blackjack tables!  8)


Are they the ones who held a protest yesterday?

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2007, 02:16:27 PM »
Spare me on native Americans.Most every white and black boy claims they are indian.Bull!They are racists.Until the white man came ,they conqured each other and when a white race beats them, then they turn racist.

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2007, 02:40:24 PM »
non parle France.LO siento solomente espanol. E un poco Italiano.

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2007, 03:00:55 PM »
I love languages but no Yiddish or Hebrew.Ma shalom ha!thats it!

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2007, 03:03:31 PM »
I like it Vito.LOL Erika might be offended by it!.My grandfathers name was Antonio Vito.We came here from Bologna and Sannicondro de Bari.

Allora tu parle italiano?  ;D


Non, je ne parle pas italien.



AHHH OUI et moi aussi!  ;D

I recently read that Colombus had Jewish links in his family. Is this true?

Muslims, well Arabs, say that they found America before Columbus and he was unfairly credited with the discovery. Not only that rubbish but also that when Armstrong went on the moon-some people believe that is fake too- he heard the call to prayer and is now secretly a muslim. ::)
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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2007, 03:11:30 PM »
BS

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2007, 04:20:15 PM »
I like it Vito.LOL Erika might be offended by it!.My grandfathers name was Antonio Vito.We came here from Bologna and Sannicondro de Bari.

Allora tu parle italiano?  ;D


Non, je ne parle pas italien.



AHHH OUI et moi aussi!  ;D

I recently read that Colombus had Jewish links in his family. Is this true?


That was just a rumor. Some historians argued that he was of Spanish/Portuguese Sephardic Jewish decent, but he and his family were from Genoa, Italy.

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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2007, 05:21:03 PM »
Should Columbus Day be banned?

Certainly not.
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Re: Should Columbus Day be banned?
« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2007, 05:52:59 PM »
Columbus Day is not named after him...it's named after Columbus, Ohio.

And besides, on the very day when Columbus discovered America, millions of redskin Indians lined up on the coasts and beaches, all waving American flags, and chanting "Viva! Columbus!" "Viva! Columbus!" "Viva! Columbus!" "El dia de Columbus!"


LOL , Oh- My- G_D! :D :D You can't be serious.

Columbus day was named after Christopher Columbus who 'discovered' America (with a whole bunch of other people who were already here standing on the shores watching the Santa Maria sail in and dock. LOL) Yes, I think Columbus Day should be banned, but only because I think that Chris was a mixed up guy who thought he landed in the Indies...hence, him naming the people he met here (on the land he discovered. lol) Indians. This whole subject is crazy!

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« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2007, 05:54:58 PM »
I don't know how to set up a poll here. But while we're on the topic of discussing the banning of holidays, then why not have some fun with the idea off banning Columbus Day. After all, there was nothing too special about him. First off, that claim that Columbus set off to sail to prove that the earth was round and not flat was complete BS. Also, Columbus didn't "discover" America. And what he thought he discovered, he wrongly concluded that it was India. (makes me wonder why so many people still refer to Native Americans as American Indians to this day) I personally think the day should be called Amerigo Vespucci Day since he's the one that got things right and that's why we're called America instead of Columbia.

But hey, if it gives another day off from work, I'm not complaining too much :)
You can always tell a true liberal when they start bashing Columbus. If we can have a national holiday for a degenerate monkey radical we can have one for Columbus!

Hey, first of all, I'm not bashing Columbus. Secondly, I don't believe we should have Martin Luther King day either (if that's who you are referring to here.) They're historical figures worthy of a day or two to learn about in school, but not worthy of any national holidays.

Also, I wasn't doing this to be a "true liberal." (Besides, it's the liberal education system which created these myths and over inflates his credits), I just figure while we're voting and discussing the banning of Halloween, Football, and Swedish Meatballs, why not have a little more fun by extending it to this?
I can agree with that Daniel. Why don't we have MLK Day and take that time to teach each child how to get along in school? I think that would be an outstanding idea.

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« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2007, 06:06:35 PM »
I don't know how to set up a poll here. But while we're on the topic of discussing the banning of holidays, then why not have some fun with the idea off banning Columbus Day. After all, there was nothing too special about him. First off, that claim that Columbus set off to sail to prove that the earth was round and not flat was complete BS. Also, Columbus didn't "discover" America. And what he thought he discovered, he wrongly concluded that it was India. (makes me wonder why so many people still refer to Native Americans as American Indians to this day) I personally think the day should be called Amerigo Vespucci Day since he's the one that got things right and that's why we're called America instead of Columbia.

But hey, if it gives another day off from work, I'm not complaining too much :)
You can always tell a true liberal when they start bashing Columbus. If we can have a national holiday for a degenerate monkey radical we can have one for Columbus!

Hey, first of all, I'm not bashing Columbus. Secondly, I don't believe we should have Martin Luther King day either (if that's who you are referring to here.) They're historical figures worthy of a day or two to learn about in school, but not worthy of any national holidays.

Also, I wasn't doing this to be a "true liberal." (Besides, it's the liberal education system which created these myths and over inflates his credits), I just figure while we're voting and discussing the banning of Halloween, Football, and Swedish Meatballs, why not have a little more fun by extending it to this?
I can agree with that Daniel. Why don't we have MLK Day and take that time to teach each child how to get along in school? I think that would be an outstanding idea.
We already have a MLK day.
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« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2007, 06:22:58 PM »
I don't know how to set up a poll here. But while we're on the topic of discussing the banning of holidays, then why not have some fun with the idea off banning Columbus Day. After all, there was nothing too special about him. First off, that claim that Columbus set off to sail to prove that the earth was round and not flat was complete BS. Also, Columbus didn't "discover" America. And what he thought he discovered, he wrongly concluded that it was India. (makes me wonder why so many people still refer to Native Americans as American Indians to this day) I personally think the day should be called Amerigo Vespucci Day since he's the one that got things right and that's why we're called America instead of Columbia.

But hey, if it gives another day off from work, I'm not complaining too much :)
You can always tell a true liberal when they start bashing Columbus. If we can have a national holiday for a degenerate monkey radical we can have one for Columbus!

Hey, first of all, I'm not bashing Columbus. Secondly, I don't believe we should have Martin Luther King day either (if that's who you are referring to here.) They're historical figures worthy of a day or two to learn about in school, but not worthy of any national holidays.

Also, I wasn't doing this to be a "true liberal." (Besides, it's the liberal education system which created these myths and over inflates his credits), I just figure while we're voting and discussing the banning of Halloween, Football, and Swedish Meatballs, why not have a little more fun by extending it to this?
I can agree with that Daniel. Why don't we have MLK Day and take that time to teach each child how to get along in school? I think that would be an outstanding idea.
We already have a MLK day.
No, I mean trading the day off for having a day in school for our children to learn how to get along with each other. Not many people do anything MLK related on that day off anyway.

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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2007, 06:29:25 PM »
I agree. Here in MS, there are parades and this that and the other. It's more of a party than anything else. I believe the MLK holiday should be more than a chance to catch beads and drink beer. It should be about the Black Community discuss ways too make their culture and life better.  But as usual, as humans, we goof good ideas up alot. I still disagree with you about Columbus day. ;)
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« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2007, 06:34:27 PM »
I don't know how to set up a poll here. But while we're on the topic of discussing the banning of holidays, then why not have some fun with the idea off banning Columbus Day. After all, there was nothing too special about him. First off, that claim that Columbus set off to sail to prove that the earth was round and not flat was complete BS. Also, Columbus didn't "discover" America. And what he thought he discovered, he wrongly concluded that it was India. (makes me wonder why so many people still refer to Native Americans as American Indians to this day) I personally think the day should be called Amerigo Vespucci Day since he's the one that got things right and that's why we're called America instead of Columbia.

But hey, if it gives another day off from work, I'm not complaining too much :)
You can always tell a true liberal when they start bashing Columbus. If we can have a national holiday for a degenerate monkey radical we can have one for Columbus!

Hey, first of all, I'm not bashing Columbus. Secondly, I don't believe we should have Martin Luther King day either (if that's who you are referring to here.) They're historical figures worthy of a day or two to learn about in school, but not worthy of any national holidays.

Also, I wasn't doing this to be a "true liberal." (Besides, it's the liberal education system which created these myths and over inflates his credits), I just figure while we're voting and discussing the banning of Halloween, Football, and Swedish Meatballs, why not have a little more fun by extending it to this?
I can agree with that Daniel. Why don't we have MLK Day and take that time to teach each child how to get along in school? I think that would be an outstanding idea.
Give me a break Erica.  
I wish my child would be given an academic education in school...not an indoctrination.

If anyone shouldn't have a day in his name - it is MLK.
To have a federal holiday in a person's name they should have at least contributed to/impacted the lives of a majority of the people.
I think MLK is just a token holiday.  
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« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2007, 06:36:20 PM »
I agree. Here in MS, there are parades and this that and the other. It's more of a party than anything else. I believe the MLK holiday should be more than a chance to catch beads and drink beer. It should be about the Black Community discuss ways too make their culture and life better.  But as usual, as humans, we goof good ideas up alot. I still disagree with you about Columbus day. ;)
Thats okay, you disagree. If you agreed with me I'd think you were drinking or something. lol As for the MLK and beads thing...I don't think I'd let my daughters out of the house half dressed, flashing people for beads on a day reserved for unity. lol

I'm from Chicago and we have a lot of celebrations that go on there. Two I love is the Taste of Chicago and the Bud Biliken Parade. Those are held during the week/weekends during the summer and a fun time is had by all but those who act like they've never been anywhere. lol I must say though that I've never known any gang fights to go down at those functions. We also have African Fest which features goods and services provided / and for sale by African Artists. Even music. But I digress... lol  It would be nice if we could all share that with each other without being that person on the outside  looking in and assuming all of the time.