The leftist media is idolizing Nazis again

[Ron]

Israeli media interviewed Maxim Zhorin the spokesperson of the infamous Neo Nazi Azov Battalion (yes, JEWISH journalists made an interview with f**ing AZOV).

Link to the interview (in Hebrew, Russian and Ukrainian):

https://m.facebook.com/hazinor/videos/369734018106062/?extid=NS-UNK-UNK-UNK-IOS_GK0T-GK1C&refsrc=deprecated&ref=sharing&_rdr

Where they tried to portray him as a mere patriot who has no problems with Jews at all.

Here is the same Maxim Zhorin, in a FB post from 2019, posing under the balcony "from which an oustanding figure made a speech" in 1942, during the peak of WW2 and the Holocaust, when Ukraine was under Nazi rule.



Which figure was making a speech there? You guessed right, Adolf Hitler.

The founder of the Azov Battalion, Andriy Biletsky, said that the mission of the Battalion is to lead the "white races of the world in a final crusade for their survival ... a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen (subhumans)".

The Battalion's emblem features the Wolfsangel and the Black Sun, German Nazi symbols popularly used by Neo Nazi groups.



And this isnt some fringe group but an official part of the Ukraine National Guard that is consistently celebrated on Ukraine's official social media and its veteran Dmytro Kotsyubaylo was honored by Zelensky himself.

The same establishment that is glorifying Arab Muslim Nazis and worshipping violent blacks for years is now idolizing Nazi Ukraine.

[Lisa]

Well I'm not doing any of that "I stand with Ukraine" baloney.  I'm just worried about the Jews there.

[Ron]

Well I'm not doing any of that "I stand with Ukraine" baloney.  I'm just worried about the Jews there.

Most of the original community that lived there (my family included) left 30 years ago. I don't have a high opinion of Jews who choose to immigrate to a Nazi country like Ukraine (same with the Jews who chose to immigrate to Russia). They shouldn't be there at all

[Lisa]

How many Jews do you think are still in Ukrainian ne? I've see numbers varying from 40, 000 to 340,000.

[Dovid_2]

How many Jews do you think are still in Ukrainian ne? I've see numbers varying from 40, 000 to 340,000.

I would be surprised if there were even 10,000 Jews left in the whole of Ukraine, and that is a very generous figure...

Ukraine was a very tempting place for some people...  Much lower prices than the west, inexpensive rent or real estate (not to mention that what was built there under Soviet times was also of much better construction than the west), easy women...

Yes, tempting...  But as was stated - a nazi country.

If we include economic migrants to any country, we can easily inflate the figures...  Why not imagine Goa, India is a Jewish city, since so many Israeli youth try to live there after the anrmy (and then leave when their money runs out).

But let's be realistic:  The Jews of Ukraine were already greatly diminished after the many Soviet purges and cultural upheavals.  Whatever Jews were left there after '91 either left or have passed by now, and what remained before the current war is simply the framework that was set up to facilitate the spiritual needs and the emigration of those unfortunate remnant survivors.

So who composes that remant "framework" so-to-speak?  The Lubavitchers and Lithuanian Jews who were involved and their children, the odd tourist Jew who may have settled there for some reason (I met such a man in Crimea), and also some stragglers from other hassidic sects who see the opportunity for "competition" and have established a presence there (Breslov, for example).  But the majority of these so-called Jews are those who orbit this Jewish presence - if you can call it that:  The kids who oligarchs who are overwhelmingly not Jewish, Judeophiliacs who are employed by Jews, other non-Jews who are allowed to associate with the group out of mercy because they have a Jewish father (but not necessarily an oligarch).

In my estimation, even the status of real "Jews" was questionable after 1991.  I say this because I see many of these Jews where I live (a western suburb that became overwhelmingly Russian after 1991), and they absolutely don't want anything to do with Judaism, no matter how much you try to persuade them, even in the gentlest terms.

So those that emigrated to Israel cemented their status and removed all doubt, but the majority that came to the West have been lost in my eyes, if that means anything.  Sorry if that sounds callous.

[Joe Gutfeld]

We had a Muslim Nazi in the white house for 8 years named Obama.

[Baltimore]

This message is for Ron. I will DM you also. Just want to make sure you see this. It is off topic for this thread.

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[Hrvatski Noahid]

Ron, if the documentary I shared is an accurate portrayal of Azov, I would like for you to address some questions.

Are you aware that Azov does not have an official facebook page?

Do you know that one of the meanings of видатна людина in Ukrainian is "notable man," not outstanding in the sense of excellent?

Do you know that Biletsky denied ever making the Untermenschen statement and said Являюсь ли я приверженцем расизма и антисемитизма? Нет. Примерами для развития Украины в ближайшие 20 лет считаю в первую очередь Израиль и Японию. Следовательно, отпадают как расизм, так и антисемитизм

"Am I an adherent of racism and anti-Semitism? No. I consider Israel and Japan as examples for the development of Ukraine in the next 20 years. Consequently, both racism and anti-Semitism fall away."

[Nachus]

                                                                                                                          

  Sure, they are ‘idolizing’ their fellow
  ‘National Socialists!’ This is to be expected
  with them anyway.   
                                       

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

Ron, if the documentary I shared is an accurate portrayal of Azov, I would like for you to address some questions.

Are you aware that Azov does not have an official facebook page?

Do you know that one of the meanings of видатна людина in Ukrainian is "notable man," not outstanding in the sense of excellent?

Do you know that Biletsky denied ever making the Untermenschen statement and said Являюсь ли я приверженцем расизма и антисемитизма? Нет. Примерами для развития Украины в ближайшие 20 лет считаю в первую очередь Израиль и Японию. Следовательно, отпадают как расизм, так и антисемитизм

"Am I an adherent of racism and anti-Semitism? No. I consider Israel and Japan as examples for the development of Ukraine in the next 20 years. Consequently, both racism and anti-Semitism fall away."

בס''ד

Hrvatski, you have a serious moral dilemma. On the one hand, you know that Judaism is the truth and you want to be a Ben Noach because you understand that that is what G-d commands the Gentiles to do. You want to fulfill G-d's will and live a righteous life. But on the other hand, you are Croatian. The Croatians supported Hitler and Nazi Germany during World War II and did so fanatically. The Croatians themselves murdered tens of thousands of Jews during the holocaust. You also know that today Croatians admire and even idolize the Croatian Nazi mass murderers of the 1940s because they view them as great patriots. When speaking to foreigners, Croatians try to disguise their Nazi Jew-hatred because they know it will harm Croatia's image and it will be used against them by their Serb enemies. But you know the real truth: the Croatians admire the Croatian Nazi regime of the 1940s, and yes, they admire their German Nazi allies of the 1940s.

So you have a great moral contradiction that you have to contend with. You love your family, your people and your country. But you know that the truth is with the Jews, who were chosen by G-d to be a light unto the nations. Not an easy situation.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

בס''ד

Hrvatski, you have a serious moral dilemma. On the one hand, you know that Judaism is the truth and you want to be a Ben Noach because you understand that that is what G-d commands the Gentiles to do. You want to fulfill G-d's will and live a righteous life. But on the other hand, you are Croatian. The Croatians supported Hitler and Nazi Germany during World War II and did so fanatically. The Croatians themselves murdered tens of thousands of Jews during the holocaust. You also know that today Croatians admire and even idolize the Croatian Nazi mass murderers of the 1940s because they view them as great patriots. When speaking to foreigners, Croatians try to disguise their Nazi Jew-hatred because they know it will harm Croatia's image and it will be used against them by their Serb enemies. But you know the real truth: the Croatians admire the Croatian Nazi regime of the 1940s, and yes, they admire their German Nazi allies of the 1940s.

So you have a great moral contradiction that you have to contend with. You love your family, your people and your country. But you know that the truth is with the Jews, who were chosen by G-d to be a light unto the nations. Not an easy situation.

That doesn't address any of the questions I asked Ron.

As regards my Croatian people, they couldn't care less about Jews during the 1990s when Serbian imperialists attacked our country. If Serbs have the merit of not persecuting Jews as you believe, they are still an evil, idolatrous and imperialist nation.