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Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?

I do
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I don't
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Offline Sarah

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Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« on: October 11, 2007, 09:11:05 AM »
I would like to know. I already know that two "I do's" are assured.

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 09:18:52 AM »
Don't know what you are talking about to be honest??

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 09:38:56 AM »
What's bought this up now Sarah? You know your a valued member of JTF!
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 09:44:51 AM »
I don't want to be a valued member, I just want people who think i'm a fake liar, to tell me instead of sending PMs to others about it.

My name is not Aisha.
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 09:57:01 AM »
I havent seen anything to suggest you are practicing Takiyah
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 10:37:40 AM »
I don't want to be a valued member, I just want people who think i'm a fake liar, to tell me instead of sending PMs to others about it.

My name is not Aisha.
I don't know about PM's I don't use them much but I would not give it much thought. With a group this size you are always going to have someone doing stuff like that. Look at it this way, if they have to go behind your back to say stuff they can't be very secure in what they have to say.
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2007, 10:38:20 AM »
Who sarah
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 12:06:04 PM »
You seem to be a fine JTFer... I had no idea this was going on!

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2007, 12:34:57 PM »
She is honest because if she were practicing Takiyah she'd be saying Islam is a peaceful religion and Muhammad is a prophet etc so unless she says that she's not practicing Takiyah. Besides she's 15 according to her profile so how could a child practice Takiyah?

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 12:37:11 PM »
I don't want to be a valued member, I just want people who think i'm a fake liar, to tell me instead of sending PMs to others about it.

My name is not Aisha.

How do you know people are sending PMs calling you a liar?

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 12:43:28 PM »
Sarah, you are one of the most popular members of our forum. The overwhelming majority of our forum members think very highly of you.

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2007, 01:11:05 PM »
Quote from: Sarah link=topic=9645.msg97618#msg97618 date=
I would like to know. I already know that two "I do's" are assured.
You know what they say about opinions......

Someone's opinion is meaningless unless they can back it up with proof.  I, for one, haven't seen any proof of taqiyyah in your posts.  If someone sees fit to PM behind your back instead of openly accusing you of this  and providing proof, I would just ignore them.
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2007, 01:11:12 PM »
I agree with JSullivan and CJD - I think most of us do think very highly of you.
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2007, 01:37:37 PM »
Who is the one that voted she does practice Takiyah? Do you also think Norman practiced Takiyah?

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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 01:55:19 PM »
Who is the one that voted she does practice Takiyah? Do you also think Norman practiced Takiyah?
Who is Norman?
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2007, 02:26:10 PM »
 Sarah is not practicing anything why don'nt whoever you are admit it
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2007, 02:29:56 PM »
Who is Norman?

He was an anti-Muslim Iranian.

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2007, 02:32:33 PM »
you're only 15 and there is nothing about you that suggests any inconsitencies on your personality..in fact, if anything, you are a pleasure to talk to..
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2007, 02:33:47 PM »
Who is Norman?

He was an anti-Muslim Iranian.
Was he a member of the forum?
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2007, 02:36:06 PM »
yeh what happened to norman?
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2007, 02:44:36 PM »
yeh what happened to norman?
I don't remember him  :o
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2007, 04:08:58 PM »
It doesn't matter what anyone else says. You have to decide for yourself if you are a Muslim or not. All my "Jewish" friends say that I am un-American (I dont disagree so much with this one) and that what I say is un-Jewish. I know better than they do. I know what Judaism is and it doesn't matter to me what they say. You have to decide what your identity is, no one can tell you.
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2007, 04:26:56 PM »
I've seen nothing to suggest that you are a taqiyyaing Muslim.  I've seen you defend certain aspects of Islam at times, but that's not taqiyya. 
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2007, 04:28:43 PM »
I will say that on another thread that I said I was horrified after reading the koran, sura and haidth (and I think anyone on this forum would be if they were being honest) and Sarah, you DID tell me that I "must have misunderstood the koran if I was horrified" because it was nothing more than a "bunch of fables and stories"...which is completely untrue, it is a book of war, with the end result being dar al islam.  
 I read with perfect comprehension, AND have the benefit of 2 ex muslim friends who assure me that this nonsense about us silly infidels "misunderstanding" the koran is ridiculous, that its something that muslims will tell us to keep us off guard or make us doubt what we are reading.
Only YOU can decide what you are, what you believe, but I assure you that I understood perfectly what I read, and I am still horrified at what I read.
Islam is a blood cult, its followers are terrorists, and mohammad was a disgusting pedophile, war lord, and the goal of islam is to have the entire world run by muslims under sharia law.  I will stand by these statements and be willing to leave the forum if the majority of people disagree with them.  
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=9305.msg92707#msg92707
is the thread in question

I will say that I sincerely hope that you do leave islam fully, and realize your full potential, with all the rights and freedoms that you are entitled to.
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Re: Who Thinks I'm a lying, taqiyyah practicing muslim?
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2007, 04:32:33 PM »
Ze'ev has it right.  There are times, Sarah, when you defend parts of Islam that make it difficult for my full-on rage towards Islam to understand.  But it is good to hear from someone who lives or lived an Islamic lifestyle.
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