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Should male-female interdancing be banned?
Daniel:
--- Quote from: Erica on October 12, 2007, 03:52:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 12, 2007, 03:16:16 AM ---The thing about you Erica is you're a liberal. As one you are against religion, tradition and would like to see some form of socialism. If you're not for any of these things than you're not a liberal, but you state you are. If these are your fews than you are totally lost.
You're always giving excuses for blacks. Whenever a black is involved in a news story, you refuse to completely blame the blacks, like with the Jena Six. You refuse to see the white point of view, and instead, side with the blacks, because that's what you are. You always claim to be impartial, but you're not fooling any one. In the Jena Six dicussions you clearly thought those black animals were innocent. You say they weren't, but your additional comments suggest otherwise.
You're always putting down religion, saying this isn't right and that's wrong. If you're not into the concept of religion, why bother coming to a religious forum?
Based on my observations, you truly are a liberal. I see there is no possible way to reason with you, because liberals simply cannot be reasoned with, so, I will just stop trying.
--- End quote ---
I'm not against religion, Barach. And about this "you refuse to see the white point of view" bologney, you're wrong. You ONLY want me to see the 'white point of view' when there is more to the story. I didn't say that the Jena 6 were innocent for what they did. I didn't exuse them from their crime and I even went so far as to state that they could have walked away after Justin Barker made racial slurs against them. White people committed the same crimes against black boys in the same town but no one wants to see that... Those white kids who contributed in crimes against blacks in Jena never saw jail for 8 months, nor 8 minutes. The Jena 6 spent upwards of 8-10 months behind bars in an adult facility. I think that's enough. That dosen't mean I'm excusing them for what they did... I dont' think ANYONE needs to be behind bars for 1 year or the 22 years the Jena boys were about to get for a schoolyard fight. The punishment should have been handed down by school officials...expulsion would have been a great way to punish the Jena 6 for what they did.
And again, you are such a liar, I NEVER said that the Jena 6 were innocent!!! I EVEN state it in my latest VIDEO, so you can hear the words come straight out of my mouth, you angry person!
I NEVER put down religion, again..I'm trying to refrain from calling you names.... And since the forum is so religious, when did the Torah or the Bible say it was okay to call black people out of their names like monkeys? How religious is that?
And you don't have to reason with me. And I don't have to reason with you. We have opinions for a reason, because they differ. Otherwise it would be called "an agreement". You don't seem to understand that your word isn't the law of the land or the end all to be all of communication.
I'll agree, you should stop trying to do what I NEVER asked you to do; reason with me. ::)
--- End quote ---
You're so right, Erica. There's such a great deal of hypocrisy on this forum. Whenever someone spews out disgusting racist language, that's completely tolerated. But I dare happen to mention something of a sexual nature, then I'll be told that what I'm saying is inappropriate for a religious forum. So that means that racist language is permissible on a religious forum, but sexual language is not? I'd expect that religious people and a religious forum would have just as much o a problem with racist language as with sexual language.
Eliezer Ben Avraham:
--- Quote from: Daniel on October 14, 2007, 04:06:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Erica on October 12, 2007, 03:52:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 12, 2007, 03:16:16 AM ---The thing about you Erica is you're a liberal. As one you are against religion, tradition and would like to see some form of socialism. If you're not for any of these things than you're not a liberal, but you state you are. If these are your fews than you are totally lost.
You're always giving excuses for blacks. Whenever a black is involved in a news story, you refuse to completely blame the blacks, like with the Jena Six. You refuse to see the white point of view, and instead, side with the blacks, because that's what you are. You always claim to be impartial, but you're not fooling any one. In the Jena Six dicussions you clearly thought those black animals were innocent. You say they weren't, but your additional comments suggest otherwise.
You're always putting down religion, saying this isn't right and that's wrong. If you're not into the concept of religion, why bother coming to a religious forum?
Based on my observations, you truly are a liberal. I see there is no possible way to reason with you, because liberals simply cannot be reasoned with, so, I will just stop trying.
--- End quote ---
I'm not against religion, Barach. And about this "you refuse to see the white point of view" bologney, you're wrong. You ONLY want me to see the 'white point of view' when there is more to the story. I didn't say that the Jena 6 were innocent for what they did. I didn't exuse them from their crime and I even went so far as to state that they could have walked away after Justin Barker made racial slurs against them. White people committed the same crimes against black boys in the same town but no one wants to see that... Those white kids who contributed in crimes against blacks in Jena never saw jail for 8 months, nor 8 minutes. The Jena 6 spent upwards of 8-10 months behind bars in an adult facility. I think that's enough. That dosen't mean I'm excusing them for what they did... I dont' think ANYONE needs to be behind bars for 1 year or the 22 years the Jena boys were about to get for a schoolyard fight. The punishment should have been handed down by school officials...expulsion would have been a great way to punish the Jena 6 for what they did.
And again, you are such a liar, I NEVER said that the Jena 6 were innocent!!! I EVEN state it in my latest VIDEO, so you can hear the words come straight out of my mouth, you angry person!
I NEVER put down religion, again..I'm trying to refrain from calling you names.... And since the forum is so religious, when did the Torah or the Bible say it was okay to call black people out of their names like monkeys? How religious is that?
And you don't have to reason with me. And I don't have to reason with you. We have opinions for a reason, because they differ. Otherwise it would be called "an agreement". You don't seem to understand that your word isn't the law of the land or the end all to be all of communication.
I'll agree, you should stop trying to do what I NEVER asked you to do; reason with me. ::)
--- End quote ---
You're so right, Erica. There's such a great deal of hypocrisy on this forum. Whenever someone spews out disgusting racist language, that's completely tolerated. But I dare happen to mention something of a sexual nature, then I'll be told that what I'm saying is inappropriate for a religious forum. So that means that racist language is permissible on a religious forum, but sexual language is not? I'd expect that religious people and a religious forum would have just as much o a problem with racist language as with sexual language.
--- End quote ---
There is no mitzvah that forbids racism. There are many mitzvot that forbid sex related things. The concept of a "Chosen People" and a "Holy People" is certainly racist in my eyes, but it is reiterated throughout the Torah. Therefore in my eyes Judaism has many racist aspects, but that won't stop me from being any more Jewish.
Daniel:
--- Quote from: lou13ss on October 14, 2007, 04:09:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: Daniel on October 14, 2007, 04:06:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Erica on October 12, 2007, 03:52:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 12, 2007, 03:16:16 AM ---The thing about you Erica is you're a liberal. As one you are against religion, tradition and would like to see some form of socialism. If you're not for any of these things than you're not a liberal, but you state you are. If these are your fews than you are totally lost.
You're always giving excuses for blacks. Whenever a black is involved in a news story, you refuse to completely blame the blacks, like with the Jena Six. You refuse to see the white point of view, and instead, side with the blacks, because that's what you are. You always claim to be impartial, but you're not fooling any one. In the Jena Six dicussions you clearly thought those black animals were innocent. You say they weren't, but your additional comments suggest otherwise.
You're always putting down religion, saying this isn't right and that's wrong. If you're not into the concept of religion, why bother coming to a religious forum?
Based on my observations, you truly are a liberal. I see there is no possible way to reason with you, because liberals simply cannot be reasoned with, so, I will just stop trying.
--- End quote ---
I'm not against religion, Barach. And about this "you refuse to see the white point of view" bologney, you're wrong. You ONLY want me to see the 'white point of view' when there is more to the story. I didn't say that the Jena 6 were innocent for what they did. I didn't exuse them from their crime and I even went so far as to state that they could have walked away after Justin Barker made racial slurs against them. White people committed the same crimes against black boys in the same town but no one wants to see that... Those white kids who contributed in crimes against blacks in Jena never saw jail for 8 months, nor 8 minutes. The Jena 6 spent upwards of 8-10 months behind bars in an adult facility. I think that's enough. That dosen't mean I'm excusing them for what they did... I dont' think ANYONE needs to be behind bars for 1 year or the 22 years the Jena boys were about to get for a schoolyard fight. The punishment should have been handed down by school officials...expulsion would have been a great way to punish the Jena 6 for what they did.
And again, you are such a liar, I NEVER said that the Jena 6 were innocent!!! I EVEN state it in my latest VIDEO, so you can hear the words come straight out of my mouth, you angry person!
I NEVER put down religion, again..I'm trying to refrain from calling you names.... And since the forum is so religious, when did the Torah or the Bible say it was okay to call black people out of their names like monkeys? How religious is that?
And you don't have to reason with me. And I don't have to reason with you. We have opinions for a reason, because they differ. Otherwise it would be called "an agreement". You don't seem to understand that your word isn't the law of the land or the end all to be all of communication.
I'll agree, you should stop trying to do what I NEVER asked you to do; reason with me. ::)
--- End quote ---
You're so right, Erica. There's such a great deal of hypocrisy on this forum. Whenever someone spews out disgusting racist language, that's completely tolerated. But I dare happen to mention something of a sexual nature, then I'll be told that what I'm saying is inappropriate for a religious forum. So that means that racist language is permissible on a religious forum, but sexual language is not? I'd expect that religious people and a religious forum would have just as much o a problem with racist language as with sexual language.
--- End quote ---
There is no mitzvah that forbids racism. There are many mitzvot that forbid sex related things. The concept of a "Chosen People" and a "Holy People" is certainly racist in my eyes, but it is reiterated throughout the Torah. Therefore in my eyes Judaism has many racist aspects, but that won't stop me from being any more Jewish.
--- End quote ---
There's a big difference between believing that the Jews are the chosen people and engaging in disgusting and wanton racist language. We should also deem what is appropriate or inappropriate by common sense and common decency and be consistent and equitable about it.
Eliezer Ben Avraham:
--- Quote from: Daniel on October 14, 2007, 04:17:04 PM ---
There's a big difference between believing that the Jews are the chosen people and engaging in disgusting and wanton racist language. We should also deem what is appropriate or inappropriate by common sense and common decency and be consistent and equitable about it.
--- End quote ---
What is the difference? Racism is ok when it's biblical but otherwise it isn't? Saying that a people is "Chosen" means that other people are therefore not "chosen", that's racism. Thats saying that one race is superior.
What you consider common decency is just what the liberals around you have decided to call "decent" in their sick and twisted ideas of morals and ethics.
I am consistent. I always take the Jewish side of the issue, from a humanitarian point of view I am filled with contradictions, but the way I see it I am very consistent because I always base my view on the same question, "Is it good for the Jew?"
Daniel:
--- Quote from: lou13ss on October 14, 2007, 04:23:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Daniel on October 14, 2007, 04:17:04 PM ---
There's a big difference between believing that the Jews are the chosen people and engaging in disgusting and wanton racist language. We should also deem what is appropriate or inappropriate by common sense and common decency and be consistent and equitable about it.
--- End quote ---
What is the difference? Racism is ok when it's biblical but otherwise it isn't? Saying that a people is "Chosen" means that other people are therefore not "chosen", that's racism. Thats saying that one race is superior.
What you consider common decency is just what the liberals around you have decided to call "decent" in their sick and twisted ideas of morals and ethics.
I am consistent. I always take the Jewish side of the issue, from a humanitarian point of view I am filled with contradictions, but the way I see it I am very consistent because I always base my view on the same question, "Is it good for the Jew?"
--- End quote ---
Where in the bible does it say that it is good for the Jew to engage in wanton racial epithets against black people?
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