Islam - Religion ?

[Dexter]

I think Islam is a religion .

[Sarah]

These are the definitions of Religion:

*Generally a belief in a deity and practice of worship, action, and/or thought related to that deity. Loosely, any specific system of code of ethics, values, and belief.

*belief in a divine or superhuman power or powers to be obeyed and worshipped as the creator(s) and ruler(s) of the universe


Religion is technically a belief and muslims believe in Islam. However the way a belief is carried out or practisced determines whether or not it is abusive and similar to a cult, which also refers to more recent formings. In the case of Islam, you obviously know the answer.

An Ideology is a complex or complicated concept.

[New Yorker]

Islam is a death cult. Islam tells people that the purpose of life is the preparation for death, after that to get other people to follow it, failing that, kill them. Death, death, death, that's the repeating theme.

Actually, most of what I learned about Islam, I learned on 9-11, after looking into it a little more, I realized that looking into it really wasn't necessary, my first impression was spot on.

[OdKahaneChai]

It's a religion. Certainly not a great one, but still a religion.

[New Yorker]

It's a religion. Certainly not a great one, but still a religion.

It's a cult, it's an old cult, followed by 100's of millions, but that doesn't give it legitimacy, it is as loony tunes to me as the Jim Jones suicide cult or the Heaven's Gate cult.

[OdKahaneChai]

It's a religion. Certainly not a great one, but still a religion.

It's a cult, it's an old cult, followed by 100's of millions, but that doesn't give it legitimacy, it is as loony tunes to me as the Jim Jones suicide cult or the Heaven's Gate cult.

It's an evil religion, there's no doubt, but I'll say this, as will many Rabbis - if there were as many Jews in Israel davening three times a day as there are Muslim Nazis there praying five times a day, the situation would be totally different.

[Dexter]

Muslims pray 5 times a day .

Today there is a Muslim holiday if I'm not mistaking.

[OdKahaneChai]

Muslims pray 5 times a day .

Today there is a Muslim holiday if I'm not mistaking.

Yes they do.  That was a typo. 

[Mstislav]

As I have called it a number of times before, islam is a satanic barbaric deathcult. It does not deserve to be included in the category of 'religion'. Evil is not to be legitamized in any way, shape or form morally or ethically, especially in Judaism if I am not mistaken.

[Ehud]

It's a religion.  It is a satanic, death-worshipping, cruel, and primeval religion.  No one ever said that religions had to be sensible, peaceful, or good.

[Dan]

It's a Religion... of Satan!

[Mstislav]

It's a religion.  It is a satanic, death-worshipping, cruel, and primeval religion.  No one ever said that religions had to be sensible, peaceful, or good.

True, generally speaking, no known major religions do not espouse the elements islam does. Name a religion other than islam that is as bad as islam. You would not find one and cults do not count.

[Ehud]

It's a religion.  It is a satanic, death-worshipping, cruel, and primeval religion.  No one ever said that religions had to be sensible, peaceful, or good.

True, generally speaking, no known major religions do not espouse the elements islam does. Name a religion other than islam that is as bad as islam. You would not find one and cults do not count.

Yes, we know it's the worst, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a religion.

[Mstislav]

It's a religion.  It is a satanic, death-worshipping, cruel, and primeval religion.  No one ever said that religions had to be sensible, peaceful, or good.

True, generally speaking, no known major religions do not espouse the elements islam does. Name a religion other than islam that is as bad as islam. You would not find one and cults do not count.

Yes, we know it's the worst, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a religion.

You regard cults as a religion?

[newman]

It meets every official definition of a cult. It's a big one, but a cult nonetheless.

[Jasmina]

Yes.. It's a gutter religion!

[ftf]

It's very hard to bung things into catergories like this. If it is a "religion", what is a religion? If it's a "cult", well, how do you define cult? etc.

[Sarah]

A cult is a recent formation.

[Ehud]

Sometimes there aren't such clear differences between religions and cults.  In some sense, religions are established cults.  Many religions in the beginning were cults, but they grew and became bona fide religions.  Islam is a religion, its members worship and hold themselves out as Muslims openly, more than 1/6th of the world follows it, purportedly they believe in a single "God", and they have an established mode of worship.  There is not a single aspect of Islam that prevents it from being a religion.  If Satan worship was believed and practiced by 1/6th of the human population, it would be a religion.  Practically any belief system becomes a religion if it is agreed upon by enough people, is somewhat uniform in its practice, and if they believe in supernatural powers and they have their own understanding of who the creator of the Universe and how he did it.  Islam has all those aspects, cults lack a few of those aspects.

Just look up the definition of religion in the dictionary and you'll see that Islam meets every commonly accepted definition of what a religion is.  Not only does it meet people's understanding of religions, it is considered worldwide as one of the "great 3 religions". 

There is no need to demote Islam from the status of religion in order to disrespect or attempt to subvert it. 

[Ultra Requete]

Islam is a religion of piece that worship a satan, in some aspect like death penalty for apostes, exlusivness it's cult in some like establishing world conquering Caliphate. sharia law etc. it's totalitarian ideology like nazism or communism. However shoud not have legal protection the US constitution and western laws give to religions and belives becouse it's technicly speaking a religion.

[kellymaureen]

The penalty for leaving islam is death(not that every ex muslim is killed, but its still sanctioned), there isnt any other religion that sanctions death for leaving, its a cult.

[Ehud]

The penalty for leaving islam is death(not that every ex muslim is killed, but its still sanctioned), there isnt any other religion that sanctions death for leaving, its a cult.

There's no definition of religion that says that you must not be killed for leaving it.  That's really irrelevant.  Just because Islam has characteristics about it that are unique to itself, doesn't make it a cult. 

[kellymaureen]

No, but in  cults you are not allowed to leave, which is why people are often rescued and then must be deprogrammed.  I still think it is a cult.

[AussieJTFer]

It is a mass cult of death.

[decimos]

what ever it is its bad for your health...if your a young boy theres a good chance your walking like John Wayne before you are 6 years old if your a girl its worse.as a teenager if your selected you can blow yur selves up at jewish checkpoints.if your middle aged you can kill your sons and daughters by doing nothing to prevent the above listed hazards.If your old,you can retire on western good grace while still preaching hatred and allowing child abuses to continue therefore     CULT.