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Offline Rubystars

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Leftists are getting worse
« on: October 22, 2023, 10:59:02 AM »
To a certain degree there have always been purely evil leftists, especially on the fringes of that movement, but I don't think it's been as bad in the past in the USA and West as it's getting now. I'm not talking about outright communists in the past. Of course they were always pure evil... but I'm talking more about what we'd call "liberal" people.

How can so many leftists who claim to speak on behalf of marginalized people see innocent people in Israel kidnapped, raped, and even killed. Babies, children, even grandparents who already survived one Holocaust when they were children themselves and just deserve to live out their remaining years in peace and safety... murdered and tortured... how can people see this and be on the side of the perpetrators? How can they take the side of the Fakestinians over innocent Israelis?

While some leftists are obviously evil like those people yelling "Hail Satan" to counterprotest pro life demonstrations, or people who burn down buildings in "mostly peaceful protests", I've always thought of most run of the mill leftists as generally meaning well but being very misguided.

They've been told that conservatives are these hateful, racist, misogynistic, nasty people who want to abuse kids, that conservatives hate anyone they disagree with, or who doesn't look like them, but we know that for the most part, that's not true. We see ourselves as believing in Biblical morality and supporting human rights from conception to the natural end of life. We conservatives are the ones who believe every human is made in God's image and therefore has inherent worth and dignity that goes along with that. We believe in basic moral behaviors. This is a far cry from the leftist stereotype of us... but leftists by and large really think we are these evil hateful people. So of course they oppose us and many can be "red pilled" as it were once they realize conservatives really aren't as bad as they believe them to be.

However there are a subset of leftists who aren't simply misinformed and just can't ever be red pilled because they really are evil. They are glad when babies are murdered in the womb or when someone gets euthanized. They even create pro-suicide forums to spread the supposed best methods to people. They love human death because it leaves more room for them and what they want. They believe we're all individually going to be annihilated in a short span anyway with no afterlife or hope of redemption and definitely no judgment from a righteous God, so they set out to extract as much pleasure from this life as possible through as much debauchery as possible with drugs, being as outlandish as possible, sex with any gender or age, etc. They also seek to push the transhumanist agenda chasing a dream of immortality which will be forever out of reach for them.

I think it's this subset of atheist/agnostic/nihilistic leftists who are so fiercely supporting the Fakestinian cause. Sadly this subset seems to be growing and becoming mainstream leftism, supplanting the well meaning but misguided let's love everyone types of the past with a militaristic and fierce nastiness. They want total human extinction if they can achieve it because to them there's nothing special or spiritual about humanity and they believe the world will be better off without us, but they want anyone with good or traditional values to die first.

This is what we're up against... people who have no stake in humanity's future as a whole and no belief in human dignity or right to life.


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Re: Leftists are getting worse
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2023, 05:52:54 PM »
Capitalism is evil, too. The only moral system of social organization is Judaism.
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Re: Leftists are getting worse
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2023, 10:23:17 AM »
Capitalism is evil, too. The only moral system of social organization is Judaism.

Well I am never going to follow that but I think I share a lot of basic moral principles with them though as I'm also a believer in much of the same Bible and in monotheism.

I think you need to cool it a little bit. I'm not going to be upset that you found something that makes you feel happy and fulfilled but you seem to be hyper aggressive in attacking anyone else who may believe something different. People can believe different things or even be atheists and still hold to some basic moral principles about caring for other people and not wanting another holocaust to happen.

I had to take some time away from this forum because I noticed I felt a lot more angry and sort of radicalized when I was here and then when I stepped away I mellowed out a lot and evolved some of my beliefs and now I feel like I can come back a lot stronger in a lot of ways and able to see things a lot more clearly.

If you feel yourself getting really angry and such maybe you could take a week or two break looking at other things and then come back.

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Re: Leftists are getting worse
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2023, 12:13:36 PM »
This is a forum, not a diary. When you make arguments, you get counterarguments.

Communism isn't more evil than capitalism. You need only look at a list of privately owned porn companies. 
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Re: Leftists are getting worse
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2023, 07:13:15 PM »
This is a forum, not a diary. When you make arguments, you get counterarguments.

Communism isn't more evil than capitalism. You need only look at a list of privately owned porn companies.

I still think capitalism is way better than communism, but it does have its bad sides. You have a great point about the porn industry being evil. I think some laws to help regulate capitalism's bad sides can help. The worst country in the world to live in right now, North Korea, is communist, and the people there struggle to get food. Capitalism takes into account human nature and therefore it at least has a fighting chance to give us a higher quality of life.

You're right though that it can also be used to promote evil things like porn, etc. The real solution to that is to work to create a moral society with people who don't want to seek out that kind of smut, or where the demand for it is very low. I don't know if it's possible but we can work hard to influence the culture to be better.

I'd be happy with porn being outlawed. It wouldn't make it go away, but we could at least try to ban it.

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Re: Leftists are getting worse
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2023, 08:31:53 PM »
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                       :fist:

  They are getting worse and in particular,
  the far left “moral equivalency” type of
  ‘progressives!’

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Re: Leftists are getting worse
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2023, 08:58:48 PM »
:usa+israel:                                                                                                                       :fist:

  They are getting worse and in particular,
  the far left “moral equivalency” type of
  ‘progressives!’

Yes at least in the past there was enough of a remnant of Biblical morality in society where even classical liberals generally believed in good things and were just approaching things from a different way. I think even as recently as President Kennedy most leftists were somewhat decent even if they weren't straight laced conservatives. I honestly think most liberals from the 40s and 50s and 60s would be completely shocked and appalled at what is happening now with men demanding to be called ma'am, drag shows in front of kids, BLM burning cities, and Antifa riots, the left supporting outright terrorism like what Hamas did, glorification of unhealthy lifestyles, etc.

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2023, 10:37:21 PM »
I'd be happy with porn being outlawed. It wouldn't make it go away, but we could at least try to ban it.

In Torah law, Gentile societies are commanded to ban pornography and punish those who publicize these abominations.

What do you get when you ban privately owned companies? Not capitalism.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2023, 11:14:58 PM »
In Torah law, Gentile societies are commanded to ban pornography and punish those who publicize these abominations.

What do you get when you ban privately owned companies? Not capitalism.

I'd be ok with somewhat regulated capitalism. Of course just because you outlaw something it doesn't necessarily make it go away. Underage porn is illegal in almost every place in the world and it's still a massive problem because humans tend toward an evil nature and many people don't believe in God and seek after their darkest desires without restriction or fear of an ultimate judgment.

People who know they're going to have to face God one day with everything they've done should know enough to act differently and not engage in such evil activities.

We need a culture that honors the Bible and God again.