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Islam is Peace for Britain? by Robert Spencer
« on: October 15, 2007, 08:43:05 AM »
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Islam is Peace for Britain?
by Robert Spencer (more by this author)
Posted 10/08/2007 ET

“Who are we? We are Islam is peace. We want to eradicate Islamophobia. Our home is Britain. And we represent peace.”

It’s a new ad campaign in Britain: Islam is Peace. Buses and trains are sporting the legend, “Islam is Peace,” and an array of images, including that of a Muslim policewoman, a Muslim scout group, and a Muslim chef, attempt to show that Muslims in Britain are ordinary citizens, and should not be regarded with suspicion.

The group’s website derides as a “misconception” the idea that “jihad means holy war.” It speaks about jihad as involving a “struggle to improve the quality of life in society and the struggle against injustice, oppression and tyranny,” but says nothing about armed struggle. It leaves unexplained how innumerable thousands of Muslims worldwide could have gotten the idea that jihad had something to do with violence. The site also dismisses the idea that “terrorism is supported in Islam,” saying, “this misconception is one of the most widely held misconceptions about Islam today,” and quoting the Qur’an to show that “it is clearly Islamically unlawful to murder an innocent person.” However, it doesn’t specify what qualifies a person as innocent, and thus does not answer the jihadist claim that no non-Muslim can be innocent.

The British jihadist leader Anjem Chaudary articulated this view several years ago on British television, when he told an incredulous interviewer that “as far as Muslims are concerned, you are innocent if you are a Muslim.”

So if you condemn attacks on innocents, you’ve done nothing -- absolutely nothing -- to condemn the actual jihadist point of view.

The Islam is Peace campaign centers around a five-point plan:

1. To monitor and fight Islamophobia wherever it occurs.
2. To create permanent channels of dialogue and debate between the Muslim community and the rest of Britain, ensuring that your voice is always in the mainstream media. To partner with business and government to ensure that our concerns such as racism and social exclusion are understood.
3. To call upon our government to work towards a just and lasting peace in areas of conflict around the world, helping eliminate the injustices that foment division and nurture violence.
4. To be creative. To ensure that we have our finger on the pulse of the British mainstream. To understand what our community wants the world to hear.
5. To create friendships. To create a culture of understanding. To create a future of dialogue and a lot of new friendships.

Did you have a sense of déjà vu reading those points? They are, not accidentally, quite similar to the goals of the 1960s civil rights movement in America. But the difference between this campaign and a real civil rights campaign is the same as the difference between Rooseveltian reformers and Leninesque revolutionaries.

A few things are glaringly absent from these five points. There is not one word about fighting against the jihadist ideology of Islamic supremacism within English mosques and Islamic schools. Instead, point one of the campaign is to fight against undefined Islamophobia, as if the only reason why anyone regarded Muslims with suspicion was because of bigotry and hatred by non-Muslims.

Well, I’ve got news for you. If “Islamophobia” actually exists at all, it is a result of the over nine thousand violent attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam since 9/11. If the Islam is Peace organizers really want to end “Islamophobia,” here is a simple five-point plan of my own. To end “Islamophobia,” Muslims should:

1. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
2. Renounce definitively not just "terrorism," but any intention to replace the U.S. Constitution (or the constitutions of any non-Muslim state) with Sharia even by peaceful means.
3. Teach Muslims the imperative of coexisting peacefully as equals with non-Muslims on an indefinite basis.
4. Begin comprehensive international programs in mosques all over the world to teach against the ideas of violent jihad and Islamic supremacism.
5. Actively work with Western law enforcement officials to identify and apprehend jihadists within Western Muslim communities.

If Muslims do those five things, voila! “Islamophobia” will vanish. No slick PR campaigns will be needed.
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Islam is Peace for Britain? by Robert Spencer
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 11:30:09 AM »
A phobia is an irrational fear...its is irrational to fear a cult of death?

I would hope that real and true Brits would not fall for this garbage....my grandfather would be turning in his grave if he could see what is becoming of the country he was born and raised in and loved.
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Re: Islam is Peace for Britain? by Robert Spencer
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 11:33:39 AM »
A phobia is an irrational fear...its is irrational to fear a clut of death?

I would hope that real and true Brits would not fall for this garbage....my grandfather would be turning in his grave if he could see what is becoming of the country he was born and raised in and loved.
I agree with you but sadly my father is too "progressive" to even read an article like this with such an open mind.  He's from Camdentown.  On a light note I received a nice email from my friend Andy who peed on Karl Marx's grave in Hyde Park Cemetary... O0
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Islam is Peace for Britain? by Robert Spencer
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2007, 11:46:17 AM »
Lol good one!  My grandfathers family are from mainly Kettering.....I know none of them would buy this trash.
More muslim whining.....whaaaaaaaaaa we blow people up and they have the nerve not to like us...boo hoo, suck it up or go live in one your glorious sharia run crapistans....one of the greatest freedoms of western civilization is the freedom get the hell out if you dont like the way its run....there are plenty of muslim countries where muslims in England, or any other western country, can go to if they feel that where they are is too 'oppressive" or people just dont like them, as a citizen of the United States, its NOT a requirement that I like, respect, patronize their stores, or any store that hires them, or otherwise have anything to do with them in any fashion....and according to my answer from the very wise Chaim, I am not being irrational or "racist" in any way.
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Re: Islam is Peace for Britain? by Robert Spencer
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2007, 11:56:45 AM »
Of course I agree with you...lol  I seem to remember from my Islamic/Qur'anic readings that it is required that the Muslim work to make Dar al Harb become Dar al-Islam by any form of active or passive warfare possible no?  I also seem to remember that in a time of war against a Muslim country they are required to leave Dar al Harb for Dar al-Islam?  I may be mistaken here....  I just wish they'd all leave...like all the Turd Worlders and Communists... O0
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Islam is Peace for Britain? by Robert Spencer
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 12:08:51 PM »
I wish they would all leave too, I remember back to being a kid, and they just werent an issue over here, now they are daily news, whining and moaning about some "wrong" that was done to them, demanding we be dragged back to the 7th century with them....actually muslims are not supposed to be living in dar al harb, UNLESS its to further spread islam.....which is why they are here.  They do not come here to enjoy our freedoms, remember how muslim women were fighting for their "RIGHT" to wear that badge of submission, the hajib, or even the naqib in official ID photos, or even cover their face in court or in banks...imagine walking into a bank wearing a ski mask, the guard would have you face down on the floor, but they can waltz right in, wearing a disguise and no one will say anything, because it wouldnt be PC...though they did say NO to covering the face in ID, and for that matter, the hajib should be a no as well, you are not permitted to wear a baseball hat or bandanna on your head in a license photo, the 'poor offended' little muslim woman (who shouldnt be driving anyhow, she should be escorted by a male relative if leaving the house who should drive her) whined and moaned about her 'rights' and was told that a drivers license is not a RIGHT, but a privilege!