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EagleEye:
The difference is that a few Poles collaborated, but Polish people as a group did not harm Jews. By that standard, Jews also were involved in the holocaust (by killing other Jews), as yes, self-hating Jews did aid it. Romanians overthrew their anti-Jew regime before the war ended. On the other hand, Germans never overthrew Hitler, and had support accross the population.
The Polish community as a group was certainly not an agent in the holocaust, anything else is revisionism.
Wayne Jude:
You are right ultra.My mother always said the Poles hearts were in the right place at the wrong time.And dam they tried to fight the sickness called nazis!They just had no chance....
Dexter:
--- Quote from: EagleEye on October 17, 2007, 01:09:32 PM ---The difference is that a few Poles collaborated, but Polish people as a group did not harm Jews. By that standard, Jews also were involved in the holocaust (by killing other Jews), as yes, self-hating Jews did aid it. Romanians overthrew their anti-Jew regime before the war ended. On the other hand, Germans never overthrew Hitler, and had support accross the population.
The Polish community as a group was certainly not an agent in the holocaust, anything else is revisionism.
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The fact that the romanians had antisimetic regime don't mean that the Romanian were antisimetics as a group, the facts are that some Romanians killed Jews, some Poles killed Jews, some Jews killed Jews, some Germans killed Jews and so on. Therefor I can't blame a whole people for being antisimetic, besides, there were also anti-Nazi German plot, and anti-Nazi groups, so...?
Ultra Requete:
--- Quote from: Dexter on October 17, 2007, 02:36:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: EagleEye on October 17, 2007, 01:09:32 PM ---The difference is that a few Poles collaborated, but Polish people as a group did not harm Jews. By that standard, Jews also were involved in the holocaust (by killing other Jews), as yes, self-hating Jews did aid it. Romanians overthrew their anti-Jew regime before the war ended. On the other hand, Germans never overthrew Hitler, and had support accross the population.
The Polish community as a group was certainly not an agent in the holocaust, anything else is revisionism.
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The fact that the romanians had antisimetic regime don't mean that the Romanian were antisimetics as a group, the facts are that some Romanians killed Jews, some Poles killed Jews, some Jews killed Jews, some Germans killed Jews and so on. Therefor I can't blame a whole people for being antisimetic, besides, there were also anti-Nazi German plot, and anti-Nazi groups, so...?
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Yes Dexter in July 1944; after D-Day and Bagration when they realised the war is lost for Germany; so they tried to kill him to reduce the loses; for ex; untill 1942 von Staufenberg was nazi Only man who was from start against nazism was admiral Canaris and his Shwartze Kappelle inside Abwher they rescued some jews and polish oficers and got them to alied side as fake spies; I'm very interested who gave you those numbers.
Dexter:
--- Quote from: Ultra Requete on October 17, 2007, 03:01:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dexter on October 17, 2007, 02:36:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: EagleEye on October 17, 2007, 01:09:32 PM ---The difference is that a few Poles collaborated, but Polish people as a group did not harm Jews. By that standard, Jews also were involved in the holocaust (by killing other Jews), as yes, self-hating Jews did aid it. Romanians overthrew their anti-Jew regime before the war ended. On the other hand, Germans never overthrew Hitler, and had support accross the population.
The Polish community as a group was certainly not an agent in the holocaust, anything else is revisionism.
--- End quote ---
The fact that the romanians had antisimetic regime don't mean that the Romanian were antisimetics as a group, the facts are that some Romanians killed Jews, some Poles killed Jews, some Jews killed Jews, some Germans killed Jews and so on. Therefor I can't blame a whole people for being antisimetic, besides, there were also anti-Nazi German plot, and anti-Nazi groups, so...?
--- End quote ---
Yes Dexter in July 1944; after D-Day and Bagration when they realised the war is lost for Germany; so they tried to kill him to reduce the loses; for ex; untill 1942 von Staufenberg was nazi Only man who was from start against nazism was admiral Canaris and his Shwartze Kappelle inside Abwher they rescued some jews and polish oficers and got them to alied side as fake spies; I'm very interested who gave you those numbers.
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What numbers ?
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