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Title: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: admin on November 01, 2006, 03:33:52 PM
This was split off of "What do young women look for in a man?" because it dispels myths against Non-European Caucasians. This should be required reading as should the early parts of the JTF Africa Series to educate people about the truth of racial classification. It is the true Science of Race, not "racist", but rather an objective study of the racial classifications of The Homo Sapien Sapien Species. It is a form of taxonomy. It is unfortunate that this Science is misused by racists, but we at JTF, who judge people based on cutlure and actions, not on race, should put out the objective truth on the issue of race. The politically correct people will avoid it all together and the racists will use it to make Nazi theories. We must bring out the truth.

The original topic can be found at http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=1010.15 .

It is racist and Anti-Semitic to accuse Semites of being non-white. Semites are a family within The Mediterranean Branch of The Caucasian (White) Race. The skin tone has nothing to do with the race. Ethnocentric Europeans just happened to name the race white because most European Caucasians are light skinned. In reality, even Europeans aren't but rather peach toned. White is just a name. Whites range from very light Scandinavians to tan Mediterraneans and Middle Easterners all the way to tan Indians. The brown Indians however are Australoids (The same race as Australian Aborigines.). And by the way, blacks aren't really black in color but range from light brown to extra dark brown. Also, Orientals are  really tan white in color, not yellow, which proves the racial color system is baseless and it only carries a cultural meaning, not anything Scientific or racial. American Indians are not really red either but rather basically the same as the other Orientals. Central American Indians may appear reddish but it's really tan brown. The Australoid Race isn't even assigned a color but if it would, it would probably be brown. Their appearance is the most interesting. The Aborigine look like blacks in skin tone but with interesting facial features. They also have different hair than blacks that is like no other. Indian Australoids have really dark black hair that resembles the dark hair of Caucasian Indians. Also, there are Orientals in Eastern India, being that is right next to China. So India is most diverse country based on its native population. Dey just be missin' da broddas. LOL.

The Four Races

1. Caucasian
2. Negro
3. Oriental
4. Australoid

All humans belong to one of the above races. Any other variation only comes from mixing as we see with the majority of Hispanics who are a mix of Caucasian Spaniard, Oriental from the native American Indians of Latin America, and the black slaves.

Pure Arabs are Semitic Caucasians. Non-pure Arabs may have black or Oriental blood in them but their Arab component is Caucasian.

Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on November 01, 2006, 04:02:58 PM
I was thinking about this very question of 'what is a race' etc last night.  I am so glad you posted this as it has cleared up a few issues for me.  So Caucasian groups like Jews, Slavs, and even gypsies (descended from Hindus) are 'white', after all.  :)
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: MarZutra on November 01, 2006, 04:35:29 PM
Ok, you are making a very good point.  Let's keep things very clear.  For argument sake we should not use the terminology nor accuse anyone of "Racism" or being a "Racist" because we are not arguing anything of racial superiority as per the definitions just simply discussing the specific classifications of various peoples.  Too we should be clear about the term “Anti-Semitism” and “Anti-Semite”.  Whilhem Marr coined this specific term for a specific people; Jews not all Semitic peoples.  Let’s clear that up rite now because as you know the notion that Semitic identity was a product of racial "confusion" which was later taken up by the Nazi ideologuespecific Alfred Rosenberg and other ignorant Jew hating filth.  Adolf Hitler had very fond regards for the Arabian/Moslem/Semitic peoples but he was an antisemite.  So before using or tossing about the terms one must be very clear that they are, and only, used and directed in the proper context.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: MarZutra on November 01, 2006, 05:11:11 PM
Yacov you are 100% correct.  100% as per the classifications Jews and Arabs are considered Caucasians. Same for Hispanics, Persians, Turks, Indians and Pakistanis...100% correct.  Good work...  :)  For purely argument sake, if one said that you were a "racist", as per definition knowing that the VAST majority of advancements in all areas of society were in fact accomplished by whites, would they be correct and in a positive way?  One really could argue the point, if one is White, that being a racist is actually telling the truth which should encourage others to clean up their acts and start contributing no?  ;)  Most people who use such terminology use it very much out of context as per leftwing propaganda....  Just some questions... Again good work...I concede to your argument...kol hakovod!

Personally, I don't like blacks.  My opinions are formed not from racial but of cultural, values, ethics, morality and pretty much everything needed to attain a positive, productive and a safe functioning society of which the vast majority of blacks do not contribute to...Not to mention that most blacks both hate whites and hold the utmost abhorrence for Jews.  People say that it is not fair to generalize, but when such high statistics are representative of any group in any given area, one can logically conclude with predictable certainty the outcome for their opinions and be entitled to them.  It is the exact case where those majority of rotten apples ruin it for the good few.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Raptorman on November 02, 2006, 10:26:10 PM
I was thinking about this very question of 'what is a race' etc last night.  I am so glad you posted this as it has cleared up a few issues for me.  So Caucasian groups like Jews, Slavs, and even gypsies (descended from Hindus) are 'white', after all.  :)

I don't know about "white" but, unlike [censored], they are human.

We're all mixed we all have "white", Slavic, Oriental and Mongoloid blood coursing through our viens so the construct of race doesn't enter into my thought processes except when it comes to [censored].

I have family from Russia, Germany, Poland, northern Italy and England so no doubt I have a little of everything.

Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Carlyle on November 02, 2006, 11:05:57 PM
I don't know about "white" but, unlike schvartzas, they are human.

We're all mixed we all have "white", Slavic, Oriental and Mongoloid blood coursing through our viens so the construct of race doesn't enter into my thought processes except when it comes to schvartzas.

I have family from Russia, Germany, Poland, northern Italy and England so no doubt I have a little of everything.
Yes but probably your ancestry is over 99% White. That is why you are fully White.

You confuse two concepts. It's true that there is no such thing as a pure race. However, individuals can still be classified to different racial types on the basis of their appearance and ancestry.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on November 03, 2006, 01:01:04 PM
I was thinking about this very question of 'what is a race' etc last night.  I am so glad you posted this as it has cleared up a few issues for me.  So Caucasian groups like Jews, Slavs, and even gypsies (descended from Hindus) are 'white', after all.  :)

I don't know about "white" but, unlike schvartzas, they are human.

We're all mixed we all have "white", Slavic, Oriental and Mongoloid blood coursing through our viens so the construct of race doesn't enter into my thought processes except when it comes to schvartzas.

I have family from Russia, Germany, Poland, northern Italy and England so no doubt I have a little of everything.



How are black people not human?  They are clearly the same species as us... and don't use your IQ statement either... that would imply that a disabled person is not human, something that is obviously not true.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Carlyle on November 03, 2006, 04:39:30 PM
How are black people not human?  They are clearly the same species as us... and don't use your IQ statement either... that would imply that a disabled person is not human, something that is obviously not true.
They are not moral subjects. It is a philosophical statement.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on November 03, 2006, 06:25:09 PM
How are black people not human?  They are clearly the same species as us... and don't use your IQ statement either... that would imply that a disabled person is not human, something that is obviously not true.
They are not moral subjects. It is a philosophical statement.

They are human, and I am offended that you would even consider otherwise
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: MarZutra on November 04, 2006, 08:35:45 AM
OH HaShem, that was too funny.  You are right.  Thanks for making me laugh.....   Yo....s'up [censored]? .....  my earlier point even more displayed... toda roba..
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: cjd on November 04, 2006, 08:41:31 AM
How are black people not human?  They are clearly the same species as us... and don't use your IQ statement either... that would imply that a disabled person is not human, something that is obviously not true.
They are not moral subjects. It is a philosophical statement.

They are human, and I am offended that you would even consider otherwise
They are  the missing link!!
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: MarZutra on November 04, 2006, 08:47:55 AM
Does not Hominid mean, in simple form: Human like....lol  There is a great book by Dr. J. Phillip Rushton: "Race, Evolution and Behavior".  A very good work of research.  Some of his conclusions I don't necessarily agree with but looking at the Earth today it is very apparent that his findings hold more accuracy than not.  Enjoy...
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on November 04, 2006, 08:10:55 PM
(http://www.ethiopianrestaurant.com/images/ethiopian_jews_photos_6.jpg)



He may very well be a Jew but he is not a Caucasian.  Just look at that gigantic African nose!
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on November 05, 2006, 08:12:05 AM
That was an extremely edifying presentation, Yacov Menahse.  :)

I particularly like the Nordic princesses.  Feminism is taken to extremes in the Nordic countries but when the women are as beautiful as those, I suppose it's no surprise.

And you are a handsome chap yourself.  We should have a pictures thread for all the members to post their pix in.  :)
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: azrom on November 06, 2006, 07:17:50 PM
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How are black people not human?  They are clearly the same species as us... and don't use your IQ statement either... that would imply that a disabled person is not human, something that is obviously not true.
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ANTHROPOLOGY

FACT #21: The name Homo sapien was first used by the 18th Century Swedish botanist Carolus Linnaeus. The word "sapien" means "wise." The name was originally used to speak of the White man and synonymous with "europaeus." As a result, many later taxonomists and geneticists believed that Negroes and other races should be classified as different species. In fact, Darwin declared in The Descent of Man that the varieties of mankind are so distinct that similar differences found in any other animal would warrant their classification in different species, if not different genera. (39)

FACT #22: For his mammoth work, The Origin of Races, Professor Carleton Coon, President of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists and the premier geneticist of the world, assembled massive evidence from geography, anatomy, genetics, physiology, comparative dentition, linguistics, archeology, and fossil records from 300 bone-bearing sites to verify his theory of pre-sapien racianation." In other words, Homo erectus was divided by race even before evolution into Homo sapien stage. (12)

FACT #23: According to Dr. Coon, while the Caucasoid subspecies (the White race) was evolving in Europe, the Negro race was standing still on the evolutionary plane and is today no less than 200,000 years behind the European in skull and brain development. (9)

FACT #24: The Negro skull, in addition to having a smaller brain volume and thicker cranial bones than that of the White, is prognathous; i.e., the lower face projects forward, rather in the manner of an animal's muzzle. In consequence, the Negro jaw is substantially longer, relative to its width, than the White jaw. A feature of the Negro lower jaw is its retention of a vestige of the "simian shelf," a bony region immediately behind the incisors. The simian shelf is a distinguishing characteristic of apes, and it is absent in Whites. (9) (12) (39)

FACT #25: The skin of the Negro is thicker and possibly superior to the White's in the way it impedes the penetration of germs and in its protection from the ultraviolet rays of the sun. (39) (14)

FACT #26: The dark color of the Negro is due to melanin pigment which is spread through every layer of the skin and is found even in the muscles and brain. (9) (27)

FACT #27: An African dentist can tell a Negro's tooth from a white man's at a glance. (14)

FACT #28: Negroes have arms which are longer, relative to body height, than those of Whites. This feature, together with their much thicker cranial bones, gives Black athletes an advantage over Whites in boxing. The skeletal and muscular peculiarities of Negroes' lower limbs have given them considerable success as sprinters, but have left them relative undistinguished as distance runners. (39) (27)



ADDITIONAL DIFFERENCES

The hair is black, crispy, and "woolly" in texture, it is flat and elliptical with no central canal or duct like the hair of Europeans.
The nose is thick, broad and flat, often turned up nostrils exposing the red inner lining of the mucous membrane similar to an ape.
The arms and legs of the Negro are relatively longer than the European. The humerus is a trifle shorter and the forearm longer thereby approximating the simian form.
The eyes are prominent, iris black and the orbits large. The eye often has a yellowish sclerotic coat over it like that of a gorilla.
The Negro has a shorter trunk the cross-section of the chest is more circular than whites. The pelvis is narrower and longer as it is in an ape.
The mouth is wide with very thick, large and protruding lips.
Negro skin has a thick superficial horny layer which resists scratching and impedes the penetration of germs.
The Negro has a larger and shorter neck akin to that of anthropoids.
The cranial sutures are more simple than in the white type and close together earlier.
The ears are roundish, rather small, standing somewhat high and detached thus approaching the simian form.
The Negro is more powerfully developed from the pelvis down and the white more powerfully developed in the chest.
The jaw is larger and stronger and protrudes outward which, along with lower retreating forehead, gives a facial angle of 68 to 70 degrees as opposed to a facial angle of 80 to 82 degrees for Europeans.
The hands and fingers are proportionally narrower and longer. The wrist and ankles are shorter and more robust.
The frontal and paricial bones of the cranium are less excavated and less capacious. The skull is thicker especially on the sides.
The brain of the Negro on the average is 9 to 20% smaller than whites.
The teeth are larger and are wider apart than in the white race.
The three curvatures of the spine are less pronounced in the Negro than in the white and thus more characteristic of an ape.
The femur of the Negro is less oblique, the tibia (shin bone) more curved and bent forward, the calf of the leg high and but little developed.
The heel is broad and projecting, the foot long and broad but slightly arched causing flat soles, the great toe is shorter than in the white.
The two bones proper of the nose are occasionally united, as in apes.
FACT #30: Blood group studies made during WWII suggest the American Negro gene pool is about 28% white. --This despite all manner of institutional discrimination, social segregation, etc. Keep in mind that the results of test from true Black Africans would show even bigger differences from Whites. (32) (14)



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This is a great thread.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: cjd on November 06, 2006, 07:22:14 PM
Sounds like the missing link to me !!
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: azrom on November 07, 2006, 12:42:56 AM
I agree with you
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Carlyle on November 07, 2006, 09:29:57 AM
This post will be pictures of black East African Caucasians. Such blacks are a sub-group within The Mediterranean Branch of The Caucasian Race.

(http://www.ethiopianrestaurant.com/images/ethiopian_jews_photos_6.jpg)

(http://www.nishmat.net/img/NEW.jpg) Here you can see that many Ethiopian women are simply white in black skin. Some of their hair looks like Caucasian hair. Unfortunately, many Ethiopian Jews copy off of black Non-Jews so they mess up their Caucasian hair to imitate Negro hair. But it is no worse than white Jews doing so which you also have unfortunately.
Ethiopians are NOT Caucasians. They are of mixed type with significant Negroid admixture. Would you say that a mulatto with some White features is White? Ethiopians are racially similar to mulattoes.
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2005/03/origin-of-ethiopian-genetic.html
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: MarZutra on November 11, 2006, 08:25:33 AM
Shalom Yacov, I believe you will very much enjoy this book by J. Phillip Rushton.  Not politically correct but pretty factually truthful... Enjoy! 
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Carlyle on November 12, 2006, 02:15:19 PM
They are black Caucasians. They are only black in color.
You ignored the DNA evidence I posted? According to it Ethiopians have substantial Negroid admixture.

I also remind you that the average IQ of Ethiopians is 63 which is lowest in the world. Ethiopians obviously lag behind in evolution.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on November 12, 2006, 03:04:41 PM
They are black Caucasians. They are only black in color.
You ignored the DNA evidence I posted? According to it Ethiopians have substantial Negroid admixture.

I also remind you that the average IQ of Ethiopians is 63 which is lowest in the world. Ethiopians obviously lag behind in evolution.
You obviously lag behind in reading basic textual proof... so you lag behing in IQ so you lag behind in evolution.


NICE LOGIC
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: MarZutra on November 13, 2006, 07:12:11 AM
Evolution?  I don't know about you but I feel Darwin's theory on evolution and Darwinian thought is very molested and a corrupted guess at best.  All people are not equal nor are cultures.... in fact nothing is equal as per "Utopian" thought.  I think you all will enjoy J. Phillip Rushton's book (posted on the previous page) it gets right into all this racial stuff leaving out all the politically correct garbage.  It displays IQ's, Culture, Behavior etc. in a comparitive way.  The most basic conclusion is that Blacks act like Blacks whether they live in Cameroon, Paris, Toronto or Los Angeles.  Whites act like Whites whether they live in South Africa, China, Russia or America and Asians act like Asians whether they live in China, London, Vancouver or Washington DC.  It is actually a great book dissecting race, IQ, Cultures, Histories and behaviors....  Enjoy.  Blacks are Human.  It is just sad that these people seem to be more closely related to Hominid than Human due to the fact that they'd probably hadn't ever have thought of inventing the wheel nor any form of written language, science etc. etc. until good Ol-Whitey came into Africa with Rhodes and the boys...  The Blacks, for some reason, work their way backwards as soon as Ol-Whitey leaves....  You will all enjoy Rushton's book...
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on November 15, 2006, 10:24:26 AM
(http://www.the-south-asian.com/March2001/jews_in_india_-_bnei_menashe2.jpg) This is a Ben Menashe Jew. The Bnei Menashe are Jews from The Lost Tribe of Menashe. They come from India and resemble Orientals.


I've seen some of those Ben Menashe Jews in a vegetarian chinese restaurant.
I called one of them "chinese jew" and he said something that sounded hebrew.
He may have said "Ben Menashe".

BTW great post. Very in depth. But I still believe you should lose the large image in your signature. It sucks up a lot of space.
You could make it smaller...Or I could make it smaller for you.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: TheCoon on November 15, 2006, 01:13:07 PM
Blacks have hair like that because their ancestors had relations with a brillo pad. They get their intelligence from the brillo pad as well.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Scriabin on November 15, 2006, 01:32:12 PM
Blacks have hair like that because their ancestors had relations with a brillo pad. They get their intelligence from the brillo pad as well.

That's an insult to brillo pads!  Every brillo pad I ever met was hard-working, useful and made things cleaner.

Thanks for making me laugh though.   :D
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on November 15, 2006, 05:08:43 PM
Blacks have hair like that because their ancestors had relations with a brillo pad. They get their intelligence from the brillo pad as well.

That's an insult to brillo pads!  Every brillo pad I ever met was hard-working, useful and made things cleaner.

Thanks for mahing me laugh though.   :D

Most blacks I know are hard-working...
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Scriabin on November 15, 2006, 05:17:03 PM
Blacks have hair like that because their ancestors had relations with a brillo pad. They get their intelligence from the brillo pad as well.

That's an insult to brillo pads!  Every brillo pad I ever met was hard-working, useful and made things cleaner.

Thanks for mahing me laugh though.   :D

Most blacks I know are hard-working...

Where do you live?
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on November 16, 2006, 06:36:29 AM
Blacks have hair like that because their ancestors had relations with a brillo pad. They get their intelligence from the brillo pad as well.

That's an insult to brillo pads!  Every brillo pad I ever met was hard-working, useful and made things cleaner.

Thanks for mahing me laugh though.   :D

Most blacks I know are hard-working...

Most blacks I know are lazy.
Most blacks I've seen are bums.

Most blacks I know are criminals.
Most blacks I've seen are criminals.

Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Scriabin on November 16, 2006, 10:17:40 AM
Blacks have hair like that because their ancestors had relations with a brillo pad. They get their intelligence from the brillo pad as well.

That's an insult to brillo pads!  Every brillo pad I ever met was hard-working, useful and made things cleaner.

Thanks for mahing me laugh though.   :D

Most blacks I know are hard-working...

Most blacks I know are lazy.
Most blacks I've seen are bums.

Most blacks I know are criminals.
Most blacks I've seen are criminals.



That sounds more like the world that I live in.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on November 16, 2006, 11:19:53 AM
Blacks have hair like that because their ancestors had relations with a brillo pad. They get their intelligence from the brillo pad as well.

That's an insult to brillo pads!  Every brillo pad I ever met was hard-working, useful and made things cleaner.

Thanks for mahing me laugh though.   :D

Most blacks I know are hard-working...

Most blacks I know are lazy.
Most blacks I've seen are bums.

Most blacks I know are criminals.
Most blacks I've seen are criminals.



That sounds more like the world that I live in.

Nice world... I live in a society where people are equal, and judged by what they do, not what they look like...
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Scriabin on November 16, 2006, 11:42:50 AM
Blacks have hair like that because their ancestors had relations with a brillo pad. They get their intelligence from the brillo pad as well.

That's an insult to brillo pads!  Every brillo pad I ever met was hard-working, useful and made things cleaner.

Thanks for mahing me laugh though.   :D

Most blacks I know are hard-working...

Most blacks I know are lazy.
Most blacks I've seen are bums.

Most blacks I know are criminals.
Most blacks I've seen are criminals.



That sounds more like the world that I live in.

Nice world... I live in a society where people are equal, and judged by what they do, not what they look like...

I live in a society in which blacks are given preference due to their race.

I live in a society in which people are not equal.  Some are taller, shorter, smarter, dumber, etc.

I live in the real world not in some fantasyland.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Scriabin on November 16, 2006, 12:25:06 PM
Blacks have hair like that because their ancestors had relations with a brillo pad. They get their intelligence from the brillo pad as well.

That's an insult to brillo pads!  Every brillo pad I ever met was hard-working, useful and made things cleaner.

Thanks for mahing me laugh though.   :D

Most blacks I know are hard-working...

Most blacks I know are lazy.
Most blacks I've seen are bums.

Most blacks I know are criminals.
Most blacks I've seen are criminals.



That sounds more like the world that I live in.

Nice world... I live in a society where people are equal, and judged by what they do, not what they look like...

By choice, I've had only one 'friendship' with a black person during my entire life.  It was when I was in high school and quite naive.  He spoke fairly good English and didn't perscribe to the gangsta-rap culture. 

He wound up robbing a bank.

I know...most blacks are good. ;)
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on November 16, 2006, 05:16:01 PM
95% of blacks i know are good upstanding members of the community and civilisation... just like the 95% of whites i know... there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK AND WHITE as far as morality is concerned
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Scriabin on November 16, 2006, 05:34:33 PM
95% of blacks i know are good upstanding members of the community and civilisation... just like the 95% of whites i know... there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK AND WHITE as far as morality is concerned

Maybe in Eugene, Oregon or some place like that.

Go live with blacks in the ghetto and then make these ridiculous statements.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on November 16, 2006, 05:36:13 PM
I am in Britain.  Most blacks here are good people.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on November 16, 2006, 06:46:47 PM
95% of blacks i know are good upstanding members of the community and civilisation... just like the 95% of whites i know... there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK AND WHITE as far as morality is concerned



Actually whites are on average more inhibited than blacks are.  Blacks are also more likely to express racial solidarity with others of their race than white people are.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on November 17, 2006, 09:29:24 AM
"fake plastic trees", you don't get it or more like, you don't want to get it.
We do judge people by their character not simply by some color.
That MLK lie is absolutely garbage.
Did you see the latest stats? Jew are the most hated.
What color are Jews? Most of them are light or olive.

Will you refuse to see that?
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: davkakach on November 17, 2006, 09:10:01 PM
Nice thread.  I enjoyed its diversity.   :)
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Carlyle on November 25, 2006, 09:16:57 PM
You're right. Color doesn't make a difference. Their culture is the problem. They have the G-d given ability to choose to leave evil culture.
The correlation between skin color and IQ is 0.92, very high.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

The reason for the evil behavior of blacks is their low IQ and genetical predisposition to violence. They drop out of schools because they lack intelligence required to succeed there and many of them turn to crime as a consequence.

Maybe there are few "good blacks" but how can you tell a "good black person" from an evil [censored] until it's too late? We must separate the races to protect our sons and daughters from black thugs and violent rapists. I'd rather see a thousand "good blacks" unjustly suffer than one White woman raped by a Negro.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on November 25, 2006, 09:30:31 PM
You're right. Color doesn't make a difference. Their culture is the problem. They have the G-d given ability to choose to leave evil culture.
The correlation between skin color and IQ is 0.92, very high.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

The reason for the evil behavior of blacks is their low IQ and genetical predisposition to violence. They drop out of schools because they lack intelligence required to succeed there and many of them turn to crime as a consequence.

Maybe there are few "good blacks" but how can you tell a "good black person" from an evil schvartza until it's too late? We must separate the races to protect our sons and daughters from black thugs and violent rapists. I'd rather see a thousand "good blacks" unjustly suffer than one White woman raped by a Negro.

you are a racist, you just place stereotypes on people and you act upon them, how naive.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on November 26, 2006, 02:52:05 AM
I am adding pictures of Eskimos/Inuits. Eskimos are Oriental, related to Siberian Orientals.

Here they are.

(http://www.hickerphoto.com/data/media/30/eskimos-in-alaska_197.jpg) Alaskan

(http://www.akcenter.org/images/programs/oceans/summer06/IMG_1586_pamyua2_sm.jpg) Greenlandic



I read (long ago) that Eskimos are Mongolians.


Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Yochanan Zev on December 01, 2006, 01:38:08 PM
It is a widely accepted view that Coon's theories were racist and based on the assumption that the races of man evolved in isolation of each other.   In your haste to make a relation between blacks and the early simian-like hominoids, you conviently left out the similarites that exist between whites and apes.  Whites generally have more body hair, thin lips, and shorter limbs which are more in line with the features of primitive peoples.

As easily as you can look to the history of blacks and attribute negatives, you can look to the history of whites and argue that their history of violence and savagery amongst it's different tribes was in fact the sole motivation behind of it's many innovations.

You guys are so full of it, yet you try and style yourselves as being so much more righteous than thou.  Truth is many of you here are so disullusioned to such an  extent, you have no real grasp of how to deal with your own reality.  Thus the obsession with other ethicities and the continual need to prop yourselves up with this racist BS.

Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: davkakach on December 02, 2006, 01:14:19 AM
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Truth is many of you here are so disullusioned to such an  extent, you have no real grasp of how to deal with your own reality.
Huh?!  ???  You're not making any sense.

First of all, we are disillusioned (with political correctness, affirmative action, moral equivalence, etc.), but I believe the word you meant to use was actually "delusional."

Secondly, when a person has no grasp of how to deal with objective reality, that's when that person creates his "own reality."  So what you're talking about is an extreme case of dementia, when a person can't even deal with the fantasy world that he created as an escape from objective reality!   :o

Or maybe you just don't think while you type...   ::)  Friendly suggestion: avoid using big words, if you're not sure of their meaning.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Carlyle on December 02, 2006, 01:19:26 PM
you are a racist, you just place stereotypes on people and you act upon them, how naive.
I can readily admit that I am a "racist". But you cannot prove that I am wrong.

"Nature has color-coded groups of individuals so that statistically reliable predictions of their adaptability to intellectually rewarding and effective lives can easily be made and profitably be used by the pragmatic man in the street."
- William Shockley, winner of the Nobel Prize of Physics 1958
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: MarZutra on December 02, 2006, 06:48:17 PM
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Truth is many of you here are so disullusioned to such an  extent, you have no real grasp of how to deal with your own reality.
Huh?!  ???  You're not making any sense.

First of all, we are disillusioned (with political correctness, affirmative action, moral equivalence, etc.), but I believe the word you meant to use was actually "delusional."

Secondly, when a person has no grasp of how to deal with objective reality, that's when that person creates his "own reality."  So what you're talking about is an extreme case of dementia, when a person can't even deal with the fantasy world that he created as an escape from objective reality!   :o

Or maybe you just don't think while you type...   ::)  Friendly suggestion: avoid using big words, if you're not sure of their meaning.
I agree with Davkakach...  They can stay with theirs and I'll stay with mine.  I'm not one for embracing "diversity" or "progressing" multiculturalism into sub-human deprevity... 
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Yochanan Zev on December 04, 2006, 11:08:11 AM
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Truth is many of you here are so disullusioned to such an  extent, you have no real grasp of how to deal with your own reality.
Huh?!  ???  You're not making any sense.

First of all, we are disillusioned (with political correctness, affirmative action, moral equivalence, etc.), but I believe the word you meant to use was actually "delusional."

Secondly, when a person has no grasp of how to deal with objective reality, that's when that person creates his "own reality."  So what you're talking about is an extreme case of dementia, when a person can't even deal with the fantasy world that he created as an escape from objective reality!   :o

Or maybe you just don't think while you type...   ::)  Friendly suggestion: avoid using big words, if you're not sure of their meaning.


No, that's exactly what I meant.  Many of you are so "DISOLLUSIOINED", meaning jaded or disenchanted with your own subjective reality, your own pathetic lives where you blame other groups and peoples for your own shortcomings you resort to a practice of propping yourselves up by promoting sterotypes and negative attributes of some, and extrapolating these attributes across an entire race.

As far as the suggestion that blacks are more primitive in their evolutionary development than other races, I stand by what I said earlier.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on December 07, 2006, 05:13:22 PM
All the original human beings were Caucasian.  G-d cursed Canaan by making him and his descendents black.  Black skin is an outward sign to let us know that the person in question is of the slave or negro race; in fact slavery was a justified and righteous thing, harsh treatment of slaves was not.  G-d marked the blacks with other grotesque features so that even when they intermixed with other races their off-spring would retain the humiliating and disgusting features of the slave race.

The highest form of abomination imaginable is the union of white woman (a fleshly manifestation of G-d's angels) with a black man (the fleshly manifestation of a devil).  The offspring of such a union is devoid of any soul at all.

G-d made man in His image: but do you really think a black man looks like G-d?

No, I don't think so. 
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Carlyle on December 16, 2006, 08:12:32 PM
"G-d made man in His image: but do you really think a black man looks like G-d?"

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING LOL??!! G-d made man in his image? What?!!! G-d is not even comparable to human terms...we cannot imagine G-d it is a sin....he is too advance for our understanding...he hasn't any time limits....just think how life would be without time...would we age? Its beyond our limits of understanding......
Genesis 1:27: G-d created man in His own image, in the image of G-d He created him; male and female He created them.

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As for skin colour i think that GOD's creation is beautiful.....there are many beautiful black people out there as well. I thought that G-d saw all races as equal and was THE JUST? was he not?
There is no passage in the Bible that says that all men were created equal. However, miscegenation is obviously against G-d's will.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: ftfl on December 18, 2006, 03:38:07 PM
As the issue of race is being discussed for soemthing like the millionth time on this forum, I've decided to try and make a comment beyond just saying that I don't judge people by race.

I personally will always judge an individucal person by how they behave, what they say and what they do.

But as so many people appear to be anti-black, and suggest that black people are more likely to be criinals etc, I've decided that I should look at some hard facts.

Firstly figures from the 2005 US census, numbers of people of different races living in the US.

White American, 74.7%, or about 215.3 million (the definition of White includes European Americans, North African Americans, Middle Eastern Americans (e.g. Arab Americans), Central Asian Americans, and Hispanic Americans who reported as White in the 2000 Census)
Black or African American 12.1% or 34.9 million
Asian American 4.3% or 12.5 million,
American Indian 0.8% or 2.4 million
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander 0.1% or 0.4 million
Two or more races 1.9% or 5.6 million
Other 6% or 17.3 million

Secondly figures from the "Uniform Crime Reporting Program" breaking down crime in the US in the year 2005 by race.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_43.html

If we look at this, we can see that White people, of which there are 215.3 million carried out about 7.1 million criminal acts, so 3.3% of white people in the US  are criminals.

Black people, of which there are 34.9 million carried out 2.8 million criminal acts, so 8% of black people in the US are criminals.

If you want to look at any other races, do it yourself.

These simple sums  have done suggest that for one reason or another the average black person in america is over twice as likely to be a criminal than the average white person. Having seen this, I can begin to understand where some of you are coming from, but still, it is far from a majority of black people, and I would still advocate judging each individual person by how they behave, not by how somoene who looks similar behaves.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on December 19, 2006, 03:52:46 PM
the average black person in america is over twice as likely to be a criminal than the average white person


Yeah but 0.1 is two times 0.05... not exactly huge numbers...

And also a lot of this data will be skewed by the police always going for blacks rather than whites where possible... More blacks than whites will get caught.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on December 19, 2006, 04:17:28 PM
In the UK black men are 'only' about 4 or 5% of the population overall but they are 15% of the jail population.

The reason is that they have higher levels of testosterone and are more likely to commit outrageously violent crime in a casual fashion.  They are also less intelligent so they a) care less about the consequences and b) are less able to cover up their tracks.

But the real reason why I and most others dislike them is because of their genetic potential and their special relationship with the white woman.  In London a young white male cannot get access to attractive white females any longer, because most young London women are sleeping with black men.

In fact, white women prefer the opportunity to have black men's babies because they have a deep-rooted unconscious tendency to seek out the strongest genetic material for their off-spring ... and black men are about as crude, strong and prepotent genetically speaking as you will find anywhere.  Most modern white men are effeminate and useless by comparison to the black man's awesome genetic strength.

But although mixed multitudes, birthed by white mothers who were impregnated by black men's genital apparatus, may be physically stronger they are mentally less capable ... and thus society moves from being over-refined and weak to being savage and strong ... it is a Natural cycle, and a curse of G-d ... the finger of the L-rd is in all of this.

And white women whoop with joy when they take sleek young negroes to bed with them - because the black man rocks the white woman's world, and she wraps herself around him, and cries out, and takes great joy in conceiving the fruits of his loins - because the white woman loves the black man more than anything, and desires his babies more than all the gold and jewellery in the world.

Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: cjd on December 19, 2006, 05:18:25 PM
In the UK black men are 'only' about 4 or 5% of the population overall but they are 15% of the jail population.

The reason is that they have higher levels of testosterone and are more likely to commit outrageously violent crime in a casual fashion.  They are also less intelligent so they a) care less about the consequences and b) are less able to cover up their tracks.

But the real reason why I and most others dislike them is because of their genetic potential and their special relationship with the white woman.  In London a young white male cannot get access to attractive white females any longer, because most young London women are sleeping with black men.

In fact, white women prefer the opportunity to have black men's babies because they have a deep-rooted unconscious tendency to seek out the strongest genetic material for their off-spring ... and black men are about as crude, strong and prepotent genetically speaking as you will find anywhere.  Most modern white men are effeminate and useless by comparison to the black man's awesome genetic strength.

But although mixed multitudes, birthed by white mothers who were impregnated by black men's genital apparatus, may be physically stronger they are mentally less capable ... and thus society moves from being over-refined and weak to being savage and strong ... it is a Natural cycle, and a curse of G-d ... the finger of the L-rd is in all of this.

And white women whoop with joy when they take sleek young negroes to bed with them - because the black man rocks the white woman's world, and she wraps herself around him, and cries out, and takes great joy in conceiving the fruits of his loins - because the white woman loves the black man more than anything, and desires his babies more than all the gold and jewellery in the world.


I cant agree with a thing thats written here. White woman cavort with black beasts because this is what is shown to them as being popular and trendy by the evil liberal media. If its shown on the soap operas and sitcoms it must be good. This is whats taught to them in schools by the liberal left. Its nothing more than that. Satan you really should stop looking at black baboons as having any edge on the white man. To me they seem like the missing link between ape and man. White woman who cavort with black beasts in most cases have very little going on upstairs.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: MarZutra on December 20, 2006, 10:13:17 AM

I cant agree with a thing thats written here. White woman cavort with black beasts because this is what is shown to them as being popular and trendy by the evil liberal media. If its shown on the soap operas and sitcoms it must be good. This is whats taught to them in schools by the liberal left. Its nothing more than that. Satan you really should stop looking at black baboons as having any edge on the white man. To me they seem like the missing link between ape and man. White woman who cavort with black beasts in most cases have very little going on upstairs.
Agreed 100%.  Liberalism has infected the minds of the masses as Lenin himself professed and the Fabian Society had put into practice: H.G.Wells, G.B Shaw, B/S Webb, J. Dewey, Ruskin, B.F. Skinner etc..  This is the dumbing down of the masses to embrace hedonism, "diversity", "multiculturalism", "progressiveness", "tolerance" and of course shvartzism.  Political Correctness and the Leftist agenda has totally bankrupted Western culture and society.  Tragic... which will result one day soon, G-d forbid, in a morally bankrupt police State like Cuba or Russia:'(
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on December 20, 2006, 10:50:35 AM
In the UK black men are 'only' about 4 or 5% of the population overall but they are 15% of the jail population.

The reason is that they have higher levels of testosterone and are more likely to commit outrageously violent crime in a casual fashion.  They are also less intelligent so they a) care less about the consequences and b) are less able to cover up their tracks.

As i mentioned above, this is because the police instantly suspect any black man of commiting the crime, so therefore crimes committed by black men are considearbly more likely to get caught... i seriously doubt any actual discrepancy in number of crimes committed by whites and blacks

But the real reason why I and most others dislike them is because of their genetic potential and their special relationship with the white woman.  In London a young white male cannot get access to attractive white females any longer, because most young London women are sleeping with black men.

In fact, white women prefer the opportunity to have black men's babies because they have a deep-rooted unconscious tendency to seek out the strongest genetic material for their off-spring ... and black men are about as crude, strong and prepotent genetically speaking as you will find anywhere.  Most modern white men are effeminate and useless by comparison to the black man's awesome genetic strength.


Is there actually anything wrong with white women sleeping with black men?  Perhaps if white men such as yourself got out of your own backsides and actually went out looking for a suitable mate, then everything would be ok again.  I am white and married, all you have to do is look for people that are right for you... good luck GTHS  ;)
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on December 20, 2006, 01:37:26 PM
As i mentioned above, this is because the police instantly suspect any black man of commiting the crime, so therefore crimes committed by black men are considearbly more likely to get caught... i seriously doubt any actual discrepancy in number of crimes committed by whites and blacks



A prejudice is an opinion formed independently of practical observation and which is tenaciously clung to even when facts are brought to bear which may give a valid cause for reconsideration.  Therefore you are prejudiced.  You are convinced that black men are the victims of racism - they get arrested more often which in your opinion is proof of racism rather than higher incidence of committing crimes - and facts do not disturb you from your cozy, BBC 'telly' formed opinion.  You are just like all the other little lemmings in Britain in this regard - you only let the media do your thinking for you.  How intellectually and morally pusilanimous of you.

Is there actually anything wrong with white women sleeping with black men?  Perhaps if white men such as yourself got out of your own backsides and actually went out looking for a suitable mate, then everything would be ok again.  I am white and married, all you have to do is look for people that are right for you... good luck GTHS  ;)



I am a victim of white female racism - the same white females who give everything to black men and are infinitely tolerant of them give me nothing and are intolerant of my very existence.

Good luck my backside - Britain is an institutionally racist, rotten, miserable, depressing country: racist against young white males that is.  Black men have everything they want.

Only white people who act like morons get to play a part in Blair's cesspool formerly known as Britain.  White men who use their own brains are considered enemies of the state, and are excommunicated from the community of woman.

I am a victim of racism.  :(
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: ftfl on December 21, 2006, 08:48:35 AM
the average black person in america is over twice as likely to be a criminal than the average white person


Yeah but 0.1 is two times 0.05... not exactly huge numbers...

And also a lot of this data will be skewed by the police always going for blacks rather than whites where possible... More blacks than whites will get caught.
Firstly, did you read the last line of my post at all?

And secondly, don't spout that liberalist rubbish about the police being racist.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on December 21, 2006, 10:43:08 AM
Sorry, but this is a fact... police are instantly more suspicious of black men... the media doesn't want us to think this... the media uses a hush-hush technique and disguises the fact that blacks commit more crimes.

@GTHS, you have not given me a single reason to suppose why mixed race children are bad.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on December 21, 2006, 12:27:46 PM
The media wants people to think that the police are racist.

The police have a reason to suspect blacks more than others. That is because blacks are more likely to commit a violent crime.





Exactly.  fake plastic was starting to get there but he was still a little confused.   :D

Mixed children aren't bad (since no one is ever born bad anyway), I just think that the fact that they can only exist at the expense of white children is bad.  Sometimes they are inferior to both a pure Caucasian and a pure black.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on December 22, 2006, 06:21:59 AM
Yacov, your argument seems at first logical and correct, and I was about to praise you, until i noticed the tiny loophole in your argument that is the WHOLE OF SOCIETY.  Most people in society are happy with inter-racial marriages, as GTHS so often says.  Why, then, is this a problem?
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on December 22, 2006, 07:32:13 AM
Yacov, your argument seems at first logical and correct, and I was about to praise you, until i noticed the tiny loophole in your argument that is the WHOLE OF SOCIETY.  Most people in society are happy with inter-racial marriages, as GTHS so often says.  Why, then, is this a problem?



There are lots of things people aren't against, which says more about the current conditions of society than anything else.  Lots of people are no longer 'against' having homosexual teachers and homosexual messages in children's cartoons.  Many people are not 'against' having children sit and watch TV unaccompanied.  Many people are not 'against' feminism, many people (especially in Britian) are not against Muslim terrorism against innocent Israelis, etc etc - does that make those things RIGHT? 

Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: cjd on December 22, 2006, 07:42:44 AM
Yacov, your argument seems at first logical and correct, and I was about to praise you, until i noticed the tiny loophole in your argument that is the WHOLE OF SOCIETY.  Most people in society are happy with inter-racial marriages, as GTHS so often says.  Why, then, is this a problem?



There are lots of things people aren't against, which says more about the current conditions of society than anything else.  Lots of people are no longer 'against' having homosexual teachers and homosexual messages in children's cartoons.  Many people are not 'against' having children sit and watch TV unaccompanied.  Many people are not 'against' feminism, many people (especially in Britian) are not against Muslim terrorism against innocent Israelis, etc etc - does that make those things RIGHT? 


""Now your talkin""  GTHS.  Excellent post!!
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: ftfl on December 22, 2006, 12:59:18 PM
I still believe that any individual should be judged by how they as an individual act without refferrence to their appearance or their parents behaviour.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on December 22, 2006, 01:17:24 PM
I still believe that any individual should be judged by how they as an individual act without refferrence to their appearance or their parents behaviour.



Can I just ask you, where do 'individuals' come from?  Are they plucked out of nowhere?  What forms their opinions and beliefs?  How do different individuals relate to one another?  Is it ever possible for certain individuals to pursue an activity they enjoy but which hurts other individuals through negative unintended consequences?  Is it acceptable to abandon a fanatical belief in 'individuality' in order to redress perceived 'past wrongs'?  Should some individuals be treated differently to others because of said perceived historical 'wrongs'?
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: ftfl on December 22, 2006, 08:51:16 PM
Everyone is an individual, it is impossible to judge somoene by looking at their relatives, race or friends, souch things may or may not affect the way a person turns out, but there is no way of knowing. Yes it is possible forsomeone to do soomethng that hurts other people in an unintended way (why is this relative). I do not beleive in fabouring someone over others because of what may or may not have happened to their ancestors. I believe in equality of opportunity, but not equality of result. What someone achieves in life should depend solely on their capabilities and attitudes.

I hope this answers your questions GTHS.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on December 22, 2006, 09:07:35 PM
I think that you are a proponent of the Anglo-Saxon worldview, which is a huge lie, that individuals are responsible for themselves first and foremost.  Which totally ignores the fact that individuals are socialized from birth into certain settiings which may not necessarily suit them or let their full potential come forth.  This worldview, which is very English and can be traced to 18th century utilitarianism, is very primitive and outdated by hundreds of years of sociological and psychological findings.

Guess what?  The news is in.  We CAN judge people according to stereotypes and group criterion, and with a very high level of predictive success too.  The English themselves, despite being a fundamentally dishonest and manipulative race, have harnessed this knowledge in a highly sophisticated manner for decades in their propaganda and advertising.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: ftfl on December 23, 2006, 05:29:38 PM
No, I do not belive that an individual person is fully responisble for their actions, you seem to have forgotten my arguments about why terrorists deserve our sympathy...

However, I do believe that atempting to sterotype someone is wrong, no matter how accurate the results may be, I believe that you should judge each person as an individual.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on December 24, 2006, 07:51:36 AM
ftf, you are completely right, stereotyping is bad, and it will lead to more unecessary prejudice.  However it is a trap that we all fall into at some point, but I believe the people who stereotype are morally unsound.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on December 24, 2006, 08:05:38 AM
The fetishization of 'individual' is an Anglo-Saxon device, and whereas it seems self-evident and enlightened to them to think in such terms, the majority of the world's cultures do not think like that.

ANd lots of sensible English don't even think that way besides; witness how often you see Englishmen politely crossing the road when they see a bunch of blacks or hoodies hanging about.  Yes, how wrong it is to stereotype, or attempt to classify different groups of people based on empirical evidence.   ::)

This is why Anglo-Saxon culture rarely celebrates its great leaders and most talented people.  Because under Anglo culture everyone is treated as if they were special, when it is only really collective effort which can bring about great things.

This is also why the ANglo countries, England, the old USA, Canada, and Australia are the most rapidly declining Western nations in the world.

Oh please, don't be talking about morality when you are from England.  That takes the cake.   :D
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on December 24, 2006, 10:09:35 AM
How you who dream of sex can talk about morality is also beyond me... that or everyone can talk about morality with some flawed view, as we are all by nature immoral
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Carlyle on December 24, 2006, 01:58:29 PM
Who will such kids marry? They are not white or black. So they are limited to marrying someone who is into interracial marriage. This is even more problematic for black Jews who can't marry black goyim so unless there are white Jews willing to marry them, they have to look for the few black Jews around. Under Jewish Law, there is nothing wrong with a black Jew marrying other Jews. But I don't know why white Jews would want to because blacks aren't attractive and everyone is naturally more comfortable with their own kind. It is against the laws of nature for people to feel comfortable with other races like with their own.
"A Black Jew" is an oxymoron. A Hamite cannot be a Jew.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: petre on December 26, 2006, 03:03:13 AM
There is no race. Does the average European know if he is Germanic, Celtic, Latin, Greek, Viking, Phoenecian, Israelite, Slavic, etc? No. Does the average American know if he is English, German, Skandinavian, Dutch, Slavic, or Italian etc? Barely. Does the average Latin American care if he is white, black, Indian or a mixture of any two or all three? No. In a millenium, 99.9% of the world will have both a little black and white ancestry and the world will be better for it because there won't be "racial tension". Don't forget, some Jews are black and, relative to nonJewish blacks, they assimiilate very well.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: wonderfulgoy on December 26, 2006, 03:09:38 AM
Petre please see Yacov Menashe's threads and posts on racial classifications.  I agree with Yacov Menashe that the Caucasian race was miraculously created by G-d in the Garden of Eden but that before then blacks existed as sub-human creatures without souls.  In other words they were created after their own kind (i.e. the animal kind) and not in the image of Hashem.  They were endowed with souls after the Creation of the Caucasian race for some unspecified purpose (although part of G-d's masterplan and therefore above any human criticism).

What do you think of these ideas?

Do you really think it will be good for humanity to mix in with those African creatures within 1000 years?  That seems to me much too soon to effect such a huge change in human composition.  It would also stifle human intellectual development and probably result in the dying off of the entire human race through genetic pollution.

However I don't believe humanity has 1000 years left anyway because G-d will redeem the world with the Messiah before then.  He will not suffer us to witness political correctness kill our civilization for 1000 more years G-d willing.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on December 26, 2006, 02:52:38 PM
By the year 6000 on The Jewish Calendar (2240 C.E.), The Messiah will have arrived and all evil people will be wiped out by G-d. There will only be righteous people in The World.



And sadly, that will mean very few people
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Jizzepie on December 26, 2006, 05:27:20 PM
I feel stupid for asking this, but could someone please define 'righteous gentile' for me. How does a Gentile become 'righteous' IYO? I always thought it meant a noachide who kept the 7 laws but I think I've seen it used to refer to Pat Robertson, and he ain't a noachide. I'm confluzzed ???
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Carlyle on December 27, 2006, 01:43:28 PM
There are black converts to Judaism who stop being Hamites and become Israelites. There are also black Jews whose mother is Jewish but their father is a black Gentile. There are also Ethiopian Jews of mixed ancestry. But they are Jewish because the religion goes by the mother.
Are you serious? Those Ethiopian "Jews" aren't related to other Jewish people. They are not descended even partially from the twelve tribes of Israel. DNA-studies confirm this.

Moreover, even the term "Hamite" refers to dark-skinned Caucasians. 
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Meyers_1890_ethnographic_detail.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Meyers_1890_ethnographic_detail.jpg
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: fake plastic trees on December 29, 2006, 06:32:46 PM
Petre please see Yacov Menashe's threads and posts on racial classifications.  I agree with Yacov Menashe that the Caucasian race was miraculously created by G-d in the Garden of Eden but that before then blacks existed as sub-human creatures without souls.  In other words they were created after their own kind (i.e. the animal kind) and not in the image of Hashem.  They were endowed with souls after the Creation of the Caucasian race for some unspecified purpose (although part of G-d's masterplan and therefore above any human criticism).

What do you think of these ideas?

Do you really think it will be good for humanity to mix in with those African creatures within 1000 years?  That seems to me much too soon to effect such a huge change in human composition.  It would also stifle human intellectual development and probably result in the dying off of the entire human race through genetic pollution.

However I don't believe humanity has 1000 years left anyway because G-d will redeem the world with the Messiah before then.  He will not suffer us to witness political correctness kill our civilization for 1000 more years G-d willing.


i notice, with the greatest respect, GTHS, that you ignored my post on page 7 of this thread :P
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Mizrachi Jew on March 21, 2007, 04:28:45 PM
This was split off of "What do young women look for in a man?" because it dispels myths against Non-European Caucasians. This should be required reading as should the early parts of the JTF Africa Series to educate people about the truth of racial classification. It is the true Science of Race, not "racist", but rather an objective study of the racial classifications of The Homo Sapien Sapien Species. It is a form of taxonomy. It is unfortunate that this Science is misused by racists, but we at JTF, who judge people based on cutlure and actions, not on race, should put out the objective truth on the issue of race. The politically correct people will avoid it all together and the racists will use it to make Nazi theories. We must bring out the truth.

The original topic can be found at http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=1010.15 .

It is racist and Anti-Semitic to accuse Semites of being non-white. Semites are a family within The Mediterranean Branch of The Caucasian (White) Race. The skin tone has nothing to do with the race. Ethnocentric Europeans just happened to name the race white because most European Caucasians are light skinned. In reality, even Europeans aren't but rather peach toned. White is just a name. Whites range from very light Scandinavians to tan Mediterraneans and Middle Easterners all the way to tan Indians. The brown Indians however are Australoids (The same race as Australian Aborigines.). And by the way, blacks aren't really black in color but range from light brown to extra dark brown. Also, Orientals are  really tan white in color, not yellow, which proves the racial color system is baseless and it only carries a cultural meaning, not anything Scientific or racial. American Indians are not really red either but rather basically the same as the other Orientals. Central American Indians may appear reddish but it's really tan brown. The Australoid Race isn't even assigned a color but if it would, it would probably be brown. Their appearance is the most interesting. The Aborigine look like blacks in skin tone but with interesting facial features. They also have different hair than blacks that is like no other. Indian Australoids have really dark black hair that resembles the dark hair of Caucasian Indians. Also, there are Orientals in Eastern India, being that is right next to China. So India is most diverse country based on its native population. Dey just be missin' da broddas. LOL.

The Four Races

1. Caucasian
2. Negro
3. Oriental
4. Australoid

All humans belong to one of the above races. Any other variation only comes from mixing as we see with the majority of Hispanics who are a mix of Caucasian Spaniard, Oriental from the native American Indians of Latin America, and the black slaves.

Pure Arabs are Semitic Caucasians. Non-pure Arabs may have black or Oriental blood in them but their Arab component is Caucasian.



I have never seen an Arab that had an Orinteal component, some Arabs in North Africa do have Negeriod influnece and so do the Berbers. The Arabs are dark Caucasiod race called Arabids.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Mizrachi Jew on March 21, 2007, 04:29:28 PM
I was thinking about this very question of 'what is a race' etc last night.  I am so glad you posted this as it has cleared up a few issues for me.  So Caucasian groups like Jews, Slavs, and even gypsies (descended from Hindus) are 'white', after all.  :)

Gypsies are dark Caucasiods.
Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Mizrachi Jew on March 21, 2007, 04:39:53 PM
Arabid Caucasiods(Arabian Caucasiods)

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Title: Re: Dispelling Racial Myths Based on Science
Post by: Mizrachi Jew on March 21, 2007, 04:41:33 PM
Arabid Caucasiods in Arabian pensiula and Iraq sometimes its appear among the Iraqi Jews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thuVrNE0f1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1jj5Qsy4XEhttp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMdnmuYKp28

Arabid phenotype a deviated branch of the Meditternian White race.