JTF.ORG Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Yisrael on December 19, 2007, 01:00:20 AM
-
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b0_1198028519
He said that Israel is better without US foreign aid and that Israel can destroy the terrorists without America. And he says that we shouldn't hold Israel back from doing anything.
I like what he says about Israel in this clip but this guy is a lunatic...
-
I have been typing this for a bit... glad maybe more of you will believe me when i say that i really do think that RP is a good choice for you guys to support.
-
Blaming our offense on terror for the reason they want to attack us is absurd. Ron is a nut.
And on that clip he seems pro Israel. But other speeches I didn't get that impression.
-
I just don't trust Paul at all.
-
He is saying basically the same thing that he has been saying in all of his speeches. Now he may disagree as to why, but does the reason he thinks they attack really matter or is it more important that he is advocating the same thing as you are.
-
Blaming our offense on terror for the reason they want to attack us is absurd. Ron is a nut.
Obviously our foreign policy is one reason the terrorists want to attack us. But it is not the only reason as Ron Paul would have you believe. He is dangerously naive about the world we live in.
-
Ron Paul called Israel the terrorist in the Israel-Lebanon conflict.
-
Ron Paul called Israel the terrorist in the Israel-Lebanon conflict.
Doesn't shock me.
-
I rise in opposition to this resolution, which I sincerely believe will do more harm than good.
I do agree with the resolution's condemnation of violence. But I am convinced that when we get involved in foreign conflicts and send strong messages, such as this resolution will, it ends up expanding the war rather than diminishing the conflict, and that ultimately comes back to haunt us.
Mr. Speaker, I follow a policy in foreign affairs called non-interventionism. I do not believe we are making the United States more secure when we involve ourselves in conflicts overseas. The Constitution really doesn't authorize us to be the policemen of the world, much less to favor one side over another in foreign conflicts. It is very clear, reading this resolution objectively, that all the terrorists are on one side and all the victims and the innocents are on the other side. I find this unfair, particularly considering the significantly higher number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians. I would rather advocate neutrality rather than picking sides, which is what this resolution does.
I believe that this is the statement that you are referring to. In this statement he makes the comment "It is very clear, reading this resolution objectively, that all the terrorists are on one side and all the victims and the innocents are on the other side. I find this unfair, particularly considering the significantly higher number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians. I would rather advocate neutrality rather than picking sides, which is what this resolution does." which i believe is the part that you have a problem with. What this says is that Israel is not the victim like they are made out to be in the resolution and that the blame for the scope of the conflict lies on both sides.
Before this he reaffirms the notion that it is not the US's place to get involved and that we should let Israel and Lebanon work it out on their own. How is this something that you don't want. Do you want the US telling you what you should be doing like a parent? How are you in control of your own country when you are forced into this kind of UN resolution.
-
If Ron Paul were president, G-d forbid, the Muslim terrorists would attack America FAR MORE because Muslims always attack when they sense weakness and cowardice. And Paul's policies of appeasement would be justifiably interpreted by the Muslim Nazis as weakness and cowardice.
The current American policies that cause Muslim terrorism are the policies of weakness. Paul would make America's response to the Islamonazis even weaker, in fact much weaker. This would guarantee massive Islamic terrorism. The Muslims want to conquer the world and will NOT stop if we ignore them. The opposite is true: they will take advantage of any American decision to pretend that we can coexist in a world where Muslim terrorist nations are accumulating trillions of petrodollars, sponsoring terrorism and genocide, and building nuclear weapons for the express purpose of annihilating millions of Christian and Jewish "infidels".
The imbecile Paul and his moronic zombie supporters know NOTHING about Islam or Muslims or Arabs. And many of his supporters are literally rooting for the Muslim terrorists because they hate America (many Paul supporters are anti-American and anti-Christian anarchists) and because they hate little Israel (most Paul supporters are Jew-haters, and many are outright Nazis).
-
If Ron Paul were president, G-d forbid, the Muslim terrorists would attack America FAR MORE because Muslims always attack when they sense weakness and cowardice. And Paul's policies of appeasement would be justifiably interpreted by the Muslim Nazis as weakness and cowardice.
100% CORRECT.
They will view us as weak and attempt to destroy us.
-
I saw him on Glenn Beck Tonight and he is saying that if we (The United States) leave the Middle East then the Muslims won't attack us again. And Glenn Beck said that it is the goal of the Muslims to implement Sharia Law in the United States and Europe and Ron Paul basically denied that they want Sharia. Only a Self Hating Jew would vote for Ron Paul. And for Gentiles only someone who hates this country would support this scum.
-
Re: "...called Israel the terrorist in the Israel-Lebanon conflict..."
Thats GOOD!
I wish all the enemies of the Jews to be completely TERRIFIED of us.
That is the only thing Muzzie maniacs understand.
Peace with the Islamic world means subjecting them to such overwhelming and crushing brutality that they cower in fear and are afraid to let the sun shine on them.
That Israeli General with a patch over one eye who wrought fear and terror into the hearts of Israel's enemies!...that face of his was one macabre and unforgettable sight.
-
If Ron Paul were president, G-d forbid, the Muslim terrorists would attack America FAR MORE because Muslims always attack when they sense weakness and cowardice. And Paul's policies of appeasement would be justifiably interpreted by the Muslim Nazis as weakness and cowardice.
100% CORRECT.
They will view us as weak and attempt to destroy us.
Agreed
-
http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm
-
If Ron Paul's "Boston Tea Party" ideas of dumping the IRS, Patriot Act, NAFTA, CIA, Iraq War, Federal Reserve, North American Union etc etc and "Big Nanny" government in general take hold of the country by then, there could be a mass rebellious "Can't pay, won't pay, won't obey" attitude in the country.
It might even spread abroad!
I fear for Dr Ron Paul's life!
(http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/ronpship_dees.jpg)
-
I do not believe Ron Paul is pro Israel at all. I do not trust him.
As an Independent, Tempermental, Fundamental, right-wing,
radical, Baptist, I'll tell you why.
Ron Paul (who claims to be a Christian himself, but I'm not so
sure about that) bashed Mike Huckabee's Christmas message
comparing Christianity to fascism. He basically said,
"When fascism comes, it’ll come bearing a cross".
Ron Paul on Huck’s Christmas ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT5tZBQAJvo
Now, I don't know about you, but as a Christian Zionist I
find his comment very, very, offensive. America has been
moving rapidly away from G-d and towards sin, and this
bonehead has the nerve to attack attempts to bring back
Judeo-Christian values to America? There's filth all over TV,
and Paul criticizes something the Founding Fathers honoured.
Ronald Reagan said in 1984, "America needs G-d more than
G-d needs America. If we ever forget that we are One Nation
Under G-d, then we will be a Nation gone under."
I can't see a real Christian saying what Ron Paul did, and so this
leads me to believe he does not believe the Bible when it tells us
we should be for Israel and the Jewish people.
-
I do not believe Ron Paul is pro Israel at all. I do not trust him.
As an Independent, Tempermental, Fundamental, right-wing,
radical, Baptist, I'll tell you why.
Ron Paul (who claims to be a Christian himself, but I'm not so
sure about that) bashed Mike Huckabee's Christmas message
comparing Christianity to fascism. He basically said,
"When fascism comes, it’ll come bearing a cross".
Ron Paul on Huck’s Christmas ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT5tZBQAJvo
Now, I don't know about you, but as a Christian Zionist I
find his comment very, very, offensive. America has been
moving rapidly away from G-d and towards sin, and this
bonehead has the nerve to attack attempts to bring back
Judeo-Christian values to America? There's filth all over TV,
and Paul criticizes something the Founding Fathers honoured.
Ronald Reagan said in 1984, "America needs G-d more than
G-d needs America. If we ever forget that we are One Nation
Under G-d, then we will be a Nation gone under."
I can't see a real Christian saying what Ron Paul did, and so this
leads me to believe he does not believe the Bible when it tells us
we should be for Israel and the Jewish people.
Weren't most of the founding fathers secular free masons? I thought they were escaping religious persecution from Europe. Also in regards to the pledge, I don't think the original pledge had the words "One nation under God", I believe that was added later.
-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
the words under god were added June 14, 1954 due to an organization called the Knights of Columbus
The statement was a quote from Sinclair Lewis a 1930s playwright who made the quote "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." and Paul said that he did not know if that was a fair assessment but he thought that huckabee was parading himself around like hes the sole Christian in the race. Paul himself is a protestant and i expect the main problem that you have with him is that he firmly believes the fundamentals that this country was built on with the separation of church and state. Btw referring to yourself as a Fundamental Baptist Christian Zionists answers a lot of questions that i was having about you.
Also it is written in the constitution that public office does not come with a religious test
no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
-
I hope McCain gets nowhere.
-
He's a liar. His first act as Commander-in-Chief will be to declare war on Israel.
-
Ron Paul is a two faced liar. I dont trust him for a half a second. He makes me freaking sick.
-
You know, that English is not my mother language, so please excuse if I understood his speech wrong.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the point is, that Ron Paul blames us (Western World) to upset the Muslimes. Basically he said, that the USA bears the guilt of the attacks on 9/11.
In his view is the USA the agressor and the Muslimes are the victims.
Please watch this video again and listen carefully (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b0_1198028519)
Ron Paul talks like nearly all German politicans of today.
-
Golden, that's because he is a proud German. He wants to establish a Fourth Reich in America. Hitler was pro-Muslim too, just like Ron Nazi Paul.
I know that you are an exception, but the vast, vast majority of Germans (especially those in Germany) are hardcore Nazis to this day and always have been. VERY few Germans have rejected the Odinistic, pre-Christian beliefs that are the root of Teutonic antisemitism, and if anything, these views are more popular now than at any time since WWII.
That being said, I have several friends who are German or of German descent. But I'm not going to avoid saying that this nation is the scum of the earth.
-
Golden, that's because he is a proud German. He wants to establish a Fourth Reich in America. Hitler was pro-Muslim too, just like Ron Nazi Paul.
I know that you are an exception, but the vast, vast majority of Germans (especially those in Germany) are hardcore Nazis to this day and always have been. VERY few Germans have rejected the Odinistic, pre-Christian beliefs that are the root of Teutonic antisemitism, and if anything, these views are more popular now than at any time since WWII.
That being said, I have several friends who are German or of German descent. But I'm not going to avoid saying that this nation is the scum of the earth.
Agreed, Ron Paul is a nazi and most Germans are just "hiding Socialist nazis."
-
Is Ron Paulistinian a Nazi ?
Ask his Nazi friends, they ought to know. Here's a letter very recently published at a Nazi site.
Comrades:
I have kept quiet about the Ron Paul campaign for a while, because I didn’t see any need to say anything that would cause any trouble. However, reading the latest release from his campaign spokesman, I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.
Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the StørmFrønt set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.
I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.
For his spokesman to call white racialism a “small ideology” and claim white activists are “wasting their money” trying to influence Paul is ridiculous. Paul is a white nationalist of the StørmFrønt type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.
I don’t know that it is necessarily good for Paul to “expose” this. However, he really is someone with extensive ties to white nationalism and for him to deny that in the belief he will be more respectable by denying it is outrageous — and I hate seeing people in the press who denounce racialism merely because they think it is not fashionable.
Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers Party
-
He's a liar. His first act as Commander-in-Chief will be to declare war on Israel.
I highly doubt that, it would be a economic disaster to attack a 1st world modernized nation like Israel. We won't even invade 3rd world countries with nukes (North Korea, Pakistan, etc.) so what makes you think he'd attack Israel? That is such a fallacious statement.
-
This socialism is a real plague, I know it. Even the protestants of the EKD (Evangelic Church of Germany) are mostly socialistic. They are forming G-d in their own picture. They do what they always do - They are taking the political mainstream in their own so called "theology" :(
Ron Paul is no good choice for president. He is a real European politician. I think he hates America.
P.S.:
C.F. I think you are right. A lot of so called Christians in Germany are only alibi-Christians. In the most cases they never read in the Bible. They believe in some sort of religion, that they have created for themselves. :(
-
This socialism is a real plague, I know it. Even the protestants of the EKD (Evangelic Church of Germany) are mostly socialistic. They are forming G-d in their own picture. They do what they always do - They are taking the political mainstream in their own so called "theology" :(
Ron Paul is no good choice for president. He is a real European politician. I think he hates America.
So he's anti American because he's following the constitution and what the founding fathers believed? Non interventionist, against the IRS, pro gun (against gun regulation), and leaving NATO and the UN? Doesn't sound European to me.
You can't tell me your happy with this current administration?
-
This socialism is a real plague, I know it. Even the protestants of the EKD (Evangelic Church of Germany) are mostly socialistic. They are forming G-d in their own picture. They do what they always do - They are taking the political mainstream in their own so called "theology" :(
Ulrich, most Euro "Christians" are like that. Many American ones are like that as well. World Vision, the world's largest and best-known Christian aid/relief NGO, believes that Israel is committing a "holocaust" against the Israeli Arabs. >:(
-
According to David Barton of www.wallbuilders.com, 27 of our
nation's 56 founding fathers had Christian seminary degrees! They
certainly would have been aware of these directives spelled out in
the Bible verses below about how to select leaders at all levels of
government. Unfortunately the history revisionists that write our
public school text books have left this important information out
of what students are learning today. If you look at most web sites
about the founding fathers, you'll also see that it's almost always
omitted there as well. There is a deliberate effort on the part of
secularists to keep this information from public school students.
http://www.creationists.org/churchandstate.html
In 1777, Congress voted to spend $300,000 to purchase Bibles
which were to be distributed throughout the 13 colonies! And in
1782, the United States Congress declared, "The Congress of the
United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in
all schools."
This countries government was founded on the beliefs of truly
great "God Fearing" men. When they founded this country, the
founding fathers envisioned a government that would promote
and encourage Christianity.
On some of the founding fathers being free masons I have read
and seen movies about this, maybe some of it is true. I don't
know for sure? There's always a few in every crowd, right?
But, the information above we know is true.
Here is a short video. My Tribute to the American Founding Fathers.
PLAY VIDEO (4 minutes)
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/patriotic/patrioticwebstream.swf
-
This socialism is a real plague, I know it. Even the protestants of the EKD (Evangelic Church of Germany) are mostly socialistic. They are forming G-d in their own picture. They do what they always do - They are taking the political mainstream in their own so called "theology" :(
Ron Paul is no good choice for president. He is a real European politician. I think he hates America.
So he's anti American because he's following the constitution and what the founding fathers believed? Non interventionist, against the IRS, pro gun (against gun regulation), and leaving NATO and the UN? Doesn't sound European to me.
You can't tell me your happy with this current administration?
No he is anti American, because he has really the oppinion that the USA is the offender and the muslimes are the victims.
Yes, some points in Ron Pauls programm have confused me. I will read his election programm when I have time.
P.S.:
All leftists in Europe don't like the NATO and want to leave. The EU tries to create Eurabia :(
They want to join the muslimes to be strong enough to be a counterpower in opposition to the USA. This is European leftist mainstream.
-
This socialism is a real plague, I know it. Even the protestants of the EKD (Evangelic Church of Germany) are mostly socialistic. They are forming G-d in their own picture. They do what they always do - They are taking the political mainstream in their own so called "theology" :(
Ulrich, most Euro "Christians" are like that. Many American ones are like that as well. World Vision, the world's largest and best-known Christian aid/relief NGO, believes that Israel is committing a "holocaust" against the Israeli Arabs. >:(
Yes this organization has supported during the Israel-Hizballah war only the muslimes. There are five texts for the press about their helping activities under the Muslimes in Libanon on their German website, but no article about help for Israeli-refugees from North Israel. :(