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Title: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on December 26, 2007, 04:02:07 AM
Question?
Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
The whole world hates the Jews. You Serbs must always be separated from the world? Why don’t you join them and hate also the Jews?


Answer:
Well we Serbs do not compromise. Christian orthodoxism never propagated anti Semitism.

Many people hated or still hate the Jews.
There are many explanations for this behavior.

First of all the Jews are an intelligent and brilliant people.
Many people are jealous because the Jews are a gifted people.

The Serbs were never a complex nation. We are also smart and civilized and normal. We have no problems with ourselves. We have also a long civilization and tradition just like the Jews. We aren’t a jealous nation. We are  acctually the most hated nation from the Balkans.

Secondly. The Jews according to the Orthodox Christian teachings brought the Messiah to the world. God gave authority to Adam to rule with the earth. Adam failed and wasted his authority to the party who tempted him, the snake, the devil. Since that deed the devil overtook his position. The Mammon, the devil who rules with the earth since the mistake of Adam hates the Jews because they brought Messiah Jesus to the world.

The world still listens to the Mammon and that’s why they hate the Jews and the real Christians.

There are also so called Christians who claim that the Jewish time is over. They aren’t the chosen ones anymore. The church overtook that position. And they are propagating hate against the Jews.

We Serbs didn't replace this false theory with Christian orthodoxism.
According to the new testament God has an union with the Church with purpose to save the mankind. According to the orthodox teachings we Serbs believe that the Jews will one day recognize Jesus as the messiah. Our church fathers teach us not to hate the Jews and that anti Semitism has its roots outside the church. God has created the new testament but he didn’t removed totally the Tanach. So the rules from the Tanach are also important and the promises from the Tanach to the Jewish people still count. 
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: ftf on December 26, 2007, 10:15:53 PM
Cut the word orthodox, you're just describing true Christianity, though I haven't heard the word "Mammon" before as a title for Satan.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Kiwi on December 26, 2007, 11:42:22 PM
I think also we have never had a reason to hate each other.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on December 27, 2007, 03:29:37 AM
Cut the word orthodox, you're just describing true Christianity, though I haven't heard the word "Mammon" before as a title for Satan.

Look i do not kwom very much about Christian orthodoxism like somebody else. Maybe a other Orthodox Christian would correct me.

I can only say what I know.

There is only one Christianity. That is the Christianity whit its roots coming from the
teachings of Jesus Christ and his apostles. They were the founders of the bible and the Christian church. They established one church of Jesus Christ one Apostolic church which teaches Christianity.

The eastern Church know as the Orthodox church kept the purity of the Christian religion. And did not compromise with other theories.

In 1045 Western Europe separated officially it selves from the Apostolic church.
They brought changes and compromises into their religion and it lost its purity.
They started to shave their beards and decided that priests must not be married and other changes took place.

After a while there took on other separation place. This time not between the west and the east but among the Western nations.

The protestants under Marten Luther did not want to have anything in common with Rome. In 1517 his followers became protestants. In stead of going back to the old roots to the Apostolic church. They decided to separate there selves from the pope and started to create their own way, religion.

Protestantism was born in 1517? What a young religion even the Islamic religion is older?

The orthodox church represents the Apostolic church from the fist century.
We gave plenty of blood for the  conservation of the purity of our Church.
We were attacked and prosecuted by two side, by the crusaders from the west and by the Islamists from the east. Even under the 500 Turkish occupation we managed to keep the purity of our church. We showed what means giving your life and blood for your fatherland and true Christianity.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on December 27, 2007, 03:32:24 AM
Cut the word orthodox, you're just describing true Christianity,

Cut Orthodox?
Well Orthodoxism doesn't support anti Semitism like some members at this forum want to believe.

Our priests always tolled us that anti Semitism has its roots out side the church. And that God did not completely removed the Tanach.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: ftf on December 27, 2007, 09:50:13 AM
You've misunderstood me, I was just saying that I have the same beliefs as those that you have just described, and I don't use the word orthodox, I wasn't attacking your beliefs or the Christian orthodox beliefs, all I'm saying is that they appear to be the same as my beliefs.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on December 27, 2007, 10:56:44 AM
Correction...
- The church separation took place in 1054....
- The Devil doesn't only hate the Jews and the Christians, but he hates all people.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on December 27, 2007, 11:12:39 AM
We Serbs never involved our selves with anti Semitism...
Anti Semitism is against the mankind.

Anti Semitism is something totally different as being a Serb, Orthodox Christian.
Serbian enemies and the world likes to accuse the Serbs of anti Semitism and others. And to equal us with their own deeds. 

The Orthodox teachings have nothing to do with Anti Semitism.
We have our bible which exist out of the new and the Tanach.
God didn't totally removed the Tanach. So we Christians must respect both testaments.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: ftf on December 27, 2007, 11:38:54 AM
I still agree with all the beliefs that you've stated in this topic, I just don't use the word orthodox to describe them.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on December 27, 2007, 11:43:30 AM
I still agree with all the beliefs that you've stated in this topic, I just don't use the word orthodox to describe them.

There are also some protestants who think that the white protestantic people are the chosen people. They replaced Christianity with this false theory...
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: ftf on December 27, 2007, 01:35:05 PM
I still agree with all the beliefs that you've stated in this topic, I just don't use the word orthodox to describe them.

There are also some protestants who think that the white protestantic people are the chosen people. They replaced Christianity with this false theory...
I don't use the word Protestant either. I'm just a Christian, or perhaps a Fundamentalist Christian.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: JTFFan on December 27, 2007, 02:04:51 PM
I still agree with all the beliefs that you've stated in this topic, I just don't use the word orthodox to describe them.

There are also some protestants who think that the white protestantic people are the chosen people. They replaced Christianity with this false theory...
I don't use the word Protestant either. I'm just a Christian, or perhaps a Fundamentalist Christian.

 O0
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on December 27, 2007, 03:17:09 PM
I don't use the word Protestant either. I'm just a Christian, or perhaps a Fundamentalist Christian.

well I can my self a Christian, he calls his self a Christian, they call them selves Christians. Everybody can call him self a Christian.

A Christian is somebody who believes in the holy trinity and in the real true Apostolic church.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Hail Columbia on December 27, 2007, 03:48:36 PM
I still agree with all the beliefs that you've stated in this topic, I just don't use the word orthodox to describe them.

There are also some protestants who think that the white protestantic people are the chosen people. They replaced Christianity with this false theory...

Do you mean British Israelism?  Oh yes, there was a former member, David Ben-Ariel, who believed in that crap.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on December 27, 2007, 04:46:45 PM

There are also some protestants who think that the white protestantic people are the chosen people. They replaced Christianity with this false theory...

Do you mean British Israelism?  Oh yes, there was a former member, David Ben-Ariel, who believed in that crap.
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I do not know the name of the "church" anymore...
But you have plenty of those organizations in the USA which believe that the white race is the chosen race. And they have accepted anti Semitism.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: ftf on December 29, 2007, 06:55:10 PM
Anti-semitism is stupid, as God is pro-semite, and to oppose God directly is not wise.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 01:33:34 PM
Question?
Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
The whole world hates the Jews. You Serbs must always be separated from the world? Why don’t you join them and hate also the Jews?


Answer:
Well we Serbs do not compromise. Christian orthodoxism never propagated anti Semitism.
Many people hated or still hate the Jews.
There are many explanations for this behavior.

First of all the Jews are an intelligent and brilliant people.
Many people are jealous because the Jews are a gifted people.

The Serbs were never a complex nation. We are also smart and civilized and normal. We have no problems with ourselves. We have also a long civilization and tradition just like the Jews. We aren’t a jealous nation. We are  acctually the most hated nation from the Balkans.

Secondly. The Jews according to the Orthodox Christian teachings brought the Messiah to the world. G-d gave authority to Adam to rule with the earth. Adam failed and wasted his authority to the party who tempted him, the snake, the devil. Since that deed the devil overtook his position. The Mammon, the devil who rules with the earth since the mistake of Adam hates the Jews because they brought Messiah Jesus to the world.

The world still listens to the Mammon and that’s why they hate the Jews and the real Christians.

There are also so called Christians who claim that the Jewish time is over. They aren’t the chosen ones anymore. The church overtook that position. And they are propagating hate against the Jews.

We Serbs didn't replace this false theory with Christian orthodoxism.
According to the new testament G-d has an union with the Church with purpose to save the mankind. According to the orthodox teachings we Serbs believe that the Jews will one day recognize Jesus as the messiah. Our church fathers teach us not to hate the Jews and that anti Semitism has its roots outside the church. G-d has created the new testament but he didn’t removed totally The Tanach. So the rules from The Tanach are also important and the promises from The Tanach to the Jewish people still count. 

Perhaps Serbian Orthodox don't hate the Jews, but I have many proofs that other Orthodox Christians do. Orthodox Russians supported the progroms, and even though they disliked the Jews and wanted them out, they forbade Zionism, "because Jesus' killers cannot have a country"


If you just love the Jews because you think they will recognise Jesus as Messiah in future...then you can begin to hate then from now!!!! Observant Jews will never accept Jesus!!!! Beisdes Jews will never worshipp a Messiah in place of G-d, neither Jesus nor the Jewish Messiah to come.
If you want to love the Jews, just love them as they are, or leave them alone!
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Husar on January 02, 2008, 01:41:19 PM
Question?
Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
The whole world hates the Jews. You Serbs must always be separated from the world? Why don’t you join them and hate also the Jews?


Answer:
Well we Serbs do not compromise. Christian orthodoxism never propagated anti Semitism.
Many people hated or still hate the Jews.
There are many explanations for this behavior.

First of all the Jews are an intelligent and brilliant people.
Many people are jealous because the Jews are a gifted people.

The Serbs were never a complex nation. We are also smart and civilized and normal. We have no problems with ourselves. We have also a long civilization and tradition just like the Jews. We aren’t a jealous nation. We are  acctually the most hated nation from the Balkans.

Secondly. The Jews according to the Orthodox Christian teachings brought the Messiah to the world. G-d gave authority to Adam to rule with the earth. Adam failed and wasted his authority to the party who tempted him, the snake, the devil. Since that deed the devil overtook his position. The Mammon, the devil who rules with the earth since the mistake of Adam hates the Jews because they brought Messiah Jesus to the world.

The world still listens to the Mammon and that’s why they hate the Jews and the real Christians.

There are also so called Christians who claim that the Jewish time is over. They aren’t the chosen ones anymore. The church overtook that position. And they are propagating hate against the Jews.

We Serbs didn't replace this false theory with Christian orthodoxism.
According to the new testament G-d has an union with the Church with purpose to save the mankind. According to the orthodox teachings we Serbs believe that the Jews will one day recognize Jesus as the messiah. Our church fathers teach us not to hate the Jews and that anti Semitism has its roots outside the church. G-d has created the new testament but he didn’t removed totally The Tanach. So the rules from The Tanach are also important and the promises from The Tanach to the Jewish people still count. 

Perhaps Serbian Orthodox don't hate the Jews, but I have many proofs that other Orthodox Christians do. Orthodox Russians supported the progroms, and even though they disliked the Jews and wanted them out, they forbade Zionism, "because Jesus' killers cannot have a country"


If you just love the Jews because you think they will recognise Jesus as Messiah in future...then you can begin to hate then from now!!!!

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ?!!!

 Observant Jews will never accept Jesus!!!!

WE SERBS DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS !!!

Beisdes Jews will never worshipp a Messiah in place of G-d, neither Jesus nor the Jewish Messiah to come.

WHOEVER SPOKE A WORD ABOUT THIS HERE ?!!!

If you want to love the Jews, just love them as they are, or leave them alone!

GO BACK TO YOUR ARGENTINA NAZIPHILE SECTION,
DON'T PUT DIRT IN THE SERBIAN ONE.

Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 01:54:46 PM
I've just replied to waht Dalmacja wrote. And I printed his words in bold type.
It's to that words that I have replied!!!! Here you have them again in bold an red

Christian orthodoxism never propagated anti Semitism.

Perhaps Serbian Orthodox don't hate the Jews, but I have many proofs that other Orthodox Christians do. Orthodox Russians supported the progroms, and even though they disliked the Jews and wanted them out, they forbade Zionism, "because Jesus' killers cannot have a country"

According to the orthodox teachings we Serbs believe that the Jews will one day recognize Jesus as the messiah.  

If you just love the Jews because you think they will recognise Jesus as Messiah in future...then you can begin to hate then from now!!!! Observant Jews will never accept Jesus!!!! Beisdes Jews will never worshipp a Messiah in place of G-d, neither Jesus nor the Jewish Messiah to come.
If you want to love the Jews, just love them as they are, or leave them alone!

Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 02, 2008, 02:41:22 PM
I've just replied to waht Dalmacja wrote. And I printed her words in bold type.


Stop insulting me I am not a she I am a man.

Dalmacija stands for Dalmacia that is a region
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 02, 2008, 02:53:58 PM
Perhaps Serbian Orthodox don't hate the Jews, but I have many proofs that other Orthodox Christians do. Orthodox Russians supported the progroms, and even though they disliked the Jews and wanted them out, they forbade Zionism, "because Jesus' killers cannot have a country"

We Serbs and the Russians are of the same religion.
We both have the same Bible and faith and we both believe in one G-d.

According to the Orthodox Christian teachings Anti Semitism has its roots coming from outside the church. Every Russian and Serbian Orthodox Christian respects that.

You have also so called neo Nazis in Serbia, who deny the holocaust against the Serbs and the Jews. You have also neo Nazis in Israel. But that are the minorities, they do not represent our nations or values.

According to the orthodox teachings we Serbs believe that the Jews will one day recognize Jesus as the messiah.  

If you just love the Jews because you think they will recognise Jesus as Messiah in future...then you can begin to hate then from now!!!! Observant Jews will never accept Jesus!!!! Beisdes Jews will never worshipp a Messiah in place of G-d, neither Jesus nor the Jewish Messiah to come.
If you want to love the Jews, just love them as they are, or leave them alone!

Well, you are not optimally informed.

I like Jews
- first of all because we are both descants of the first man of Adam
I have also nothing against Muslims and other non Orthodox Christians.
My religion forbids me to hate people and to teachs me to show respect to non Orthodox Christians.

- Jews brought Jesus to the world, Jewish woman Marija (Bogorodica) gave birth to the savior.

- Orthodox church teach us that anti Semitism is anti Mankind

- Serbs always liked Jews.

If you think that the above mentioned things are wrong than you are not a reasonable person.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 02:55:52 PM
I've just replied to waht Dalmacja wrote. And I printed her words in bold type.


Stop insulting me I am not a she I am a man.

Dalmacija stands for Dalmacia that is a region

Sorry, I have amended the mistake. I am Azul (which means Blue in Spanish) in some chats. It's the name of the head of our district, but a famale name also. Some have mistaken me for a woman.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:03:43 PM
Quote
Well, you are not optimally informed.

I like Jews
- first of all because we are both descants of the first man of Adam
I have also nothing against Muslims and other non Orthodox Christians.
My religion forbids me to hate people and to show respect to non Orthodox Christians.

- Jews brought Jesus to the world, Jewish woman Marija (Bogorodica) gave birth to the savior.

- Orthodox church teach us that anti Semitism is anti Mankind

- Serbs always liked Jews.

If you think that the above mentioned things are wrong than you are not a reasonable person.

Orthodox Serbs may like the Jews, but you can't deny the many Orthodox Russians hated and massacred them.
Jesus was Jewish ( at least according to the Gospel, some historians doubt he is real), but that doesn't mean that Jews will someday believe in him.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 02, 2008, 03:05:43 PM
There are plenty protestants who agree with anti Semitism and believe that the white protestantic  people are the chosen people. These communities are active in the USA.

Do you all now consider the USA as an anti Semitic country?
Why accusing the Russians? Are the Russians collective anti Semitic?

This topic had purpose to show our point of view of the Jews.

Do not misuse this topic and its content to criticize Russia and the Russian nation and religion.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:12:53 PM
There are plenty protestants who agree with anti Semitism and believe that the white protestantic  people are the chosen people. These communities are active in the USA.

Do you all now consider the USA as an anti Semitic country?
Why accusing the Russians? Are the Russians collective anti Semitic?

This topic had purpose to show our point of view of the Jews.

Do not misuse this topic and its content to criticize Russia and the Russian nation and religion.


Of course there are anti-Semites in all places and religions. There are even some anti-Semite Jews who hate themselves. But I just want to say that Orthodox Christianity is not exempt of hate as you claim.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 02, 2008, 03:13:29 PM
Orthodox Serbs may like the Jews, but you can't deny the many Orthodox Russians hated and massacred them.
Jesus was Jewish ( at least according to the Gospel, some historians doubt he is real), but that doesn't mean that Jews will someday believe in him.

Friend, come on now you are giving examples of individual deeds.

Josip Broz Tito a criminal who killed many Serbs was half Jewish, so what?
Yes some Jews ordered NATO to bomb Serbia in 1999?
Madeline Albright and other Jews who were part of the Clinton administration?

Must I now hate all the Jews for the crimes of those Jews who even do not represent Judaism? Am I attacking the Jewish whole religion because of that?

Do you see how you self sound? Attacking Russia and the Orthodox religion because of individual crimes?

Are you claming that Russians are collective anti Semitic?
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 02, 2008, 03:18:36 PM
. But I just want to say that Orthodox Christianity is not exempt of hate as you claim.


Orthodox Christianity is not hate free?
Wrong!!!!!!!!

 
Go above to the forum rules you provided wrong interpretation of the Serbian Orthodox religion.

This is against the forums condition.

MODERATOR FROM THE SERBIAN SUBFORUM IS NOW WANTED!
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:27:57 PM
SOME Catholics now (the Church as a whole in the past) are anti-Semite. SOME Protestant are anti-Semite. SOME Jewish branches like the German reform had some anti-Semite teaching (not annoying the Gentiles by being "too Jewish")
Why cannot you admit that SOME Orthodox Christians have been anti-Semite????
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 02, 2008, 03:35:30 PM
Why cannot you admit that SOME Orthodox Christians have been anti-Semite????

If they have been than they were the minority and they made compromises.

In Serbia not even 0.00000001 % of the population ever gave support to Anti Semitism.
Russia had never Anti Semite massmovement. The Russians were never collective anti Jewish like the Germans and the Croats were. Croats are still Nazis
Well, the orthodox teaching never replaced its own teachings with Anti Semitism!

Many people can call them selves Orthodox.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:55:13 PM
What??? I don't read Cyrilic. If it's an insult.... it would be coward to insult in a language and alphabet that the forum can't censor.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 02, 2008, 04:03:56 PM
What??? I don't read Cyrilic. If it's an insult.... it would be coward to insult in a language and alphabet that the forum can't censor.

No and i was just yoking!

Husar said: Dam it!  Nothing to you Muchacho...
There was no insult!
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Jasmina on January 02, 2008, 04:06:02 PM
 I love this topic!!! I have NO comments!!!! ;D ;D ;D :::D :::D :::D
 I only know that in my city Jews and Serbs were friends and have the best buildings in the center of Timisoara and always have a good relationship...Jews and Serbs are very clever and conservative nations andif WE don't understand eachother and don't support, then OUR FIGHT against evil is already lost!
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 02, 2008, 04:07:21 PM
Jasmina srce bas si to sve ljepo rekla..... :)
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: JTFFan on January 02, 2008, 04:07:33 PM
I love this topic!!! I have NO comments!!!! ;D ;D ;D :::D :::D :::D
 I only know that in my city Jews and Serbs were friends and have the best buildings in the center of Timisoara and always have a good relationship...Jews and Serbs are very clever and conservative nations andif WE don't understand eachother and don't support, then OUR FIGHT against evil is already lost!

Great to hear that. Great pictures O0 O0
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Jasmina on January 02, 2008, 04:17:42 PM
  Thanks! :-[
  The first picture is PIATA UNIRII ( UNION SQUARE), the green building and Yellow church is Serbian, rest is Jewish buildings around!!!
  The second pic is OPERA, the place where Romanian revolution started, where people from Timisoara got together to fight against the communism (Ceausescu family, in DEC 1989)
  Third picture is Romanian Cathedral, very nice view, people also died on the stairs of this church because of fighting against communism, timisoara was proclaimed the CITY WHERE ALL STARTED AND THE CITY OF HEROES!
  The forth pic is the same Serbian ANTICARIAT (I don't know to translate) it's like LIBRARY and the Serbian Church next to the green building ( we have 3 Serbian Churches in Timisoara) ...
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: JTFFan on January 02, 2008, 04:35:46 PM
  Thanks! :-[
  The first picture is PIATA UNIRII ( UNION SQUARE), the green building and Yellow church is Serbian, rest is Jewish buildings around!!!
  The second pic is OPERA, the place where Romanian revolution started, where people from Timisoara got together to fight against the communism (Ceausescu family, in DEC 1989)
  Third picture is Romanian Cathedral, very nice view, people also died on the stairs of this church because of fighting against communism, timisoara was proclaimed the CITY WHERE ALL STARTED AND THE CITY OF HEROES!
  The forth pic is the same Serbian ANTICARIAT (I don't know to translate) and the Serbian Church next to the green building ( we have 3 Serbian Churches in Timisoara) ...

thanks for the info. your welcome :)
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Husar on January 02, 2008, 07:01:55 PM
SOME Catholics now (the Church as a whole in the past) are anti-Semite. SOME Protestant are anti-Semite. SOME Jewish branches like the German reform had some anti-Semite teaching (not annoying the Gentiles by being "too Jewish")
Why cannot you admit that SOME Orthodox Christians have been anti-Semite????



NAZIBULGARS yes, Serbs NO.


Thank you, good bye.

 8;)
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Kiwi on January 03, 2008, 01:58:20 AM
Muchacho.        :::D :::D :::D :::D
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: JTFFan on January 03, 2008, 05:12:47 AM
SOME Catholics now (the Church as a whole in the past) are anti-Semite. SOME Protestant are anti-Semite. SOME Jewish branches like the German reform had some anti-Semite teaching (not annoying the Gentiles by being "too Jewish")
Why cannot you admit that SOME Orthodox Christians have been anti-Semite????



NAZIBULGARS yes, Serbs NO.


Thank you, good bye.

 8;)

Well said, Husar O0
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Husar on January 03, 2008, 06:37:45 AM
We

Serbs

NEVER

needed

some argentinian raulmarrio

to know

HOW

to behave

towards Jews,

who

suffered/suffer

the same Pain

as we did/do !!!!






Hasta la vista, Baby !!!

 8)
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on January 03, 2008, 08:34:09 PM
I never said if there have been anti-Semites Serbs or not. I only said that there have been some Orthodox Christian anti-Semites in the world. I especifically quoted some cases in Russia. And I was just rebutting Dalamacija, who seemed to think that ALL orthodox Christians in history have been hate-free (which is cearly wrong).
Now, if you don't care to read carefully....it's not my fault!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: ftf on January 03, 2008, 08:48:50 PM
I never said if there have been anti-Semites Serbs or not. I only said that there have been some Orthodox Christian anti-Semites in the world. I especifically quoted some cases in Russia. And I was just rebutting Dalamacija, who seemed to think that ALL orthodox Christians in history have been hate-free (which is cearly wrong).
Now, if you don't care to read carefully....it's not my fault!!!!!!!!!!
Someone can call themself a Christian without being a Christian.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on January 03, 2008, 09:01:55 PM
I never said if there have been anti-Semites Serbs or not. I only said that there have been some Orthodox Christian anti-Semites in the world. I especifically quoted some cases in Russia. And I was just rebutting Dalamacija, who seemed to think that ALL orthodox Christians in history have been hate-free (which is cearly wrong).
Now, if you don't care to read carefully....it's not my fault!!!!!!!!!!
Someone can call themself a Christian without being a Christian.

Then, there was also not even one Catholic anti-Semite, they were people who called themselves Catholics without bieng really Catholic. Why that double standard? Catholics who do evil are still Catholics, but Orthodox Christians who do the same are not to be considered Christinans, and so Christian Orthodoxy is hate-free? hahahah
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: ftf on January 03, 2008, 09:04:52 PM
Loving Jews is part of being Christian, if you call yourself a Christian but hate Jews, you're lying in saying that you're a Christian.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Kiwi on January 03, 2008, 09:17:14 PM
Loving Jews is part of being Christian, if you call yourself a Christian but hate Jews, you're lying in saying that you're a Christian.

Well no its not, where in the New Testament it says you must love Jews?

They only thing I can think you would be thinking of is "do unto others, as you would have do unto you".

Which is the Golden Rule of  Christendom.   

Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 04, 2008, 04:55:04 AM
I never said if there have been anti-Semites Serbs or not. I only said that there have been some Orthodox Christian anti-Semites in the world.

There were some like you say. A minority who does not represent the whole religion.
That is the difference between Germany and Russia. The Germans for example were collective anti Semitic and their government  organized and conducted genocide against the Jews.

Russia never had a mass anti Jewish movement. Russia also didn't had a government which had anti Semitic rules.

So we are talking about a minority from the orthodox nations.
Like you have said there are also Jews who have anti Jewish idea. 
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 04, 2008, 05:02:29 AM
Then, there was also not even one Catholic anti-Semite, they were people who called themselves Catholics without bieng really Catholic. Why that double standard? Catholics who do evil are still Catholics, but Orthodox Christians who do the same are not to be considered Christinans, and so Christian Orthodoxy is hate-free? hahahah

You can not compare this.
The head of the Vatican agreed with Anti Semitism.
They prosecuted the Jews for centuries long am I right?

The Vatican helped the Nazis during WW2 and helped the establishment of Nazi Croatia.
They glorified Croatian Ustashi priests who participated in the holocaust against the Serbs and the Jews.

You can not compare that with the individual crimes of some people who are Orthodox by origin. When did the Orthodox church participated in those kind of crimes? Or organized forced converts? They did not.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Husar on January 04, 2008, 06:57:36 AM
INQUISITION

USTASHA/NAZICROATS



JASENOVAC (almost ONE MILLION ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN SERBS and TORAH JEWS slaughtered by catholics !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)


Three words, just three words, SHOWING catholic "heritage".

WHAT is to be compared w<ith this in the Orthodox Church ?



 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o



Furthermore:
NAZIBULGARS were/are anti-Semites and "orthodox"....
BUT what kind of "orthodox",
since the Orthodox Church is ORIENTAL,
but NAZIBULGARS side with catho-protestant western-"savior" germany ?!!!!
NAZIBULGARS had a german as their king and ruler !!!!!!!!

All of this isn't Orthodox at all.


It is pro-western (in its anti-Orthodox struggle !!!).
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: DALMACIJA on January 04, 2008, 08:45:33 AM
Loving Jews is part of being Christian, if you call yourself a Christian but hate Jews, you're lying in saying that you're a Christian.

You sound like that the Christians are commanded to love the Jews specific above the others. But that we have more in common with the Jews than with other non christians is an other story.
We feel connected to the Jews because Marija Jewish woman gave birth to Christ and because the founders of the Christian religion are Jews. And beacuse the whole old testaments goes about the Jews.

To love people accroding to the New Testament.
That does not only count for the Jews, to only love the Jews. But for all humans.

The new testament says that we must be tolerant to every human.
In Gods eyes everyone is equal.

There is no difference between a Greek and a Jew.
That is written.
Title: Re: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews?
Post by: Husar on January 04, 2008, 09:23:52 AM
Loving Jews is part of being Christian, if you call yourself a Christian but hate Jews, you're lying in saying that you're a Christian.

You sound like that the Christians are commanded to love the Jews specific above the others. But that we have more in common with the Jews than with other non christians is an other story.
We feel connected to the Jews because Marija Jewish woman gave birth to Christ and because the founders of the Christian religion are Jews. And beacuse the whole old testaments goes about the Jews.

To love people accroding to the New Testament.
That does not only count for the Jews, to only love the Jews. But for all humans.

NAZICROATS AREN'T "HUMANS".

The new testament says that we must be tolerant to every human.

MUSSLIMONKEYS AREN'T "HUMANS".

In Gods eyes everyone is equal.

DEVIL REMAINS DEVIL,
EVIL REMAINS EVIL.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOUGHT/EXTERMINATED.

NOT WORSHIPPED/RESPECTED/CONSIDERED.

There is no difference between a Greek and a Jew.
That is written.