JTF.ORG Forum

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on January 04, 2008, 01:36:06 AM

Title: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on January 04, 2008, 01:36:06 AM
                                                                                                         בס''ד

1. We did a video supporting Mike Huckabee when he was getting only 2% in the polls. No one took him seriously then. So our political predictions have been quite accurate, baruch HaShem (thank G-d).

2. I predicted a month ago that Rudy Giuliani's candidacy would collapse. Six months ago, polls showed him to be the frontrunner in Iowa. But when voters discovered his liberal positions on social issues, he lost almost all of his support. Yesterday he got only 3% of the vote in the Iowa caucuses.

3. Now I predict that the same thing will happen to Giuliani next Tuesday in New Hampshire, where he has spent millions of dollars advertising. Giuliani's candidacy will collapse everywhere. He has virtually no chance of winning.

4. Duncan Hunter got less than 1% of the vote in Iowa. If he has any brains, he will withdraw from the race. He should have done so before Iowa, the way Tom Tancredo did.

5. New Hampshire is a very secular Northeastern state. Independents are allowed to vote in the primaries. And independents outnumber Republicans in New Hampshire. John McCain has been endorsed by virtually every newspaper in the state and is now the frontrunner in the latest polls. The leftwing news media is promoting McCain's candidacy. If McCain wins in New Hampshire next Tuesday, the media will play it up and give him enormous momentum. UNLESS CONSERVATIVES ACT NOW, MCCAIN COULD WIN THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION, G-D FORBID!

6. We have very little time to do anything before New Hampshire, but I suggest that we map out a plan of action now to stop McCain. In my opinion, Huckabee has the best chance of stopping McCain. Giuliani is finished, and Mitt Romney is severely weakened after spending $10 million in Iowa and losing badly to the underfinanced Huckabee.

7. After New Hampshire, we have primaries and caucuses in Michigan, South Carolina, Nevada and Florida. If McCain wins those contests, G-d forbid, HE WILL BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE.

The question is, are we willing to unite against McCain?
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 04, 2008, 01:38:02 AM
If he loses NH Tues he is done for sure
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on January 04, 2008, 01:46:13 AM
If he loses NH Tues he is done for sure

True, but the latest polls show McCain winning in New Hampshire. Wolf, McCain has spent years trying to pass the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill. I believe that we must try to stop him.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 04, 2008, 01:51:07 AM
We will have to do something on what has happened with the Democrats,, Obama a Muslim in the White house is the ultimate nightmare for the United States, Israel and the west.  He will never go against his Muslim brothers.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 04, 2008, 01:56:56 AM
Of course I support Huckabee over McCain.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Ambiorix on January 04, 2008, 02:02:18 AM
Now some liberals in Europe demand the right to vote in the USA-elections as well!

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2825
Quote
Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections
From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Thu, 2008-01-03 11:45
A quote from the editorial in the Brussels newspaper De Standaard, 3 January 2008

American presidential elections are not “home affairs.” American decisions have repercussions all over the globe. The American mortgage crisis affects banks in Europe. The insatiable American demand for oil makes the Arabian sheiks rich. The American refusal to care for the environment causes the North Pole ice to melt and coastal areas in Asia to flood. A weakened dollar and an immense budget deficit affect the global economy.

Hence, the world should be given the right to vote. Because the current situation is a blatant case of taxation without representation, against which the Americans rebelled in 1776. But of course the world will not be allowed to vote. The best we can hope for is that the Americans choose a leader who is deeply aware of the U.S.’s responsibility, as a superpower, for the rest of mankind.

The international community was able to limit America’s hegemony somewhat through organisations for international consultation, agreements and the corresponding judicial apparatus. But that system is in crisis, partly through the actions of the current American president.

Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 04, 2008, 02:03:06 AM
One other question, Chaim: Fred Thompson (ys"vz) came in third in Iowa. Although it is obvious to all with a brain that this moribund corpse should attract more flies than voters, is it a done deal that his candidacy is over?
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Zionist Revolutionary on January 04, 2008, 02:07:04 AM
A poll taken on December 20 shows Mike Huckabee leading in South Carolina with 28% to Willard Romneys 18%.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=dbc647a6-ecac-4760-a902-c393c42cd851

That is a very good thing, and Iowa helps tremendously.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Baltimore on January 04, 2008, 02:18:18 AM
A poll taken on December 20 shows Mike Huckabee leading in South Carolina with 28% to Willard Romneys 18%.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=dbc647a6-ecac-4760-a902-c393c42cd851

That is a very good thing, and Iowa helps tremendously.

If Huck does not win SC then it is over for him. He will win it though.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on January 04, 2008, 02:58:47 AM
One other question, Chaim: Fred Thompson (ys"vz) came in third in Iowa. Although it is obvious to all with a brain that this moribund corpse should attract more flies than voters, is it a done deal that his candidacy is over?

In my opinion, Thompson has no chance whatsoever. He is the laziest candidate I have ever seen. He got 13% of the vote in Iowa because he was supported by Congressman Steven King, who is very popular. But in New Hampshire, he will do very poorly.

Also, Thompson raised enough money to run advertising and have a staff in Iowa. But now he's broke.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Rubystars on January 04, 2008, 03:09:22 AM
Chaim soon we'll all be on one page, because there will be a Republican nominee soon and we'll be unified.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: JTFFan on January 04, 2008, 03:10:27 AM
I absolutely agree McCain must be stopped he's the most left of all the Republicrats running ;)
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 04, 2008, 05:26:21 AM
In my opinion, Thompson has no chance whatsoever. He is the laziest candidate I have ever seen. He got 13% of the vote in Iowa because he was supported by Congressman Steven King, who is very popular. But in New Hampshire, he will do very poorly.

Also, Thompson raised enough money to run advertising and have a staff in Iowa. But now he's broke.
I sure hope this loser is toast. This pig, who has the audacity to boast that he wouldn't release the tzaddik Jonathan Pollard, only deserves to win an advanced, inoperable case of colorectal cancer.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 04, 2008, 06:42:31 AM
Bottom line i feel that there are two types of republicans. Some who are against the christian right and those who are for the christian right.  We will not be able to convince many secular republicans to go for Huckabee..therefore we need to convince them that Guiliani is the better candidate than Mccain so that at the end the final two will be huckabee vs. guliani.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: mord on January 04, 2008, 06:48:12 AM
Now some liberals in Europe demand the right to vote in the USA-elections as well!

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2825
Quote
Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections
From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Thu, 2008-01-03 11:45
A quote from the editorial in the Brussels newspaper De Standaard, 3 January 2008

American presidential elections are not “home affairs.” American decisions have repercussions all over the globe. The American mortgage crisis affects banks in Europe. The insatiable American demand for oil makes the Arabian sheiks rich. The American refusal to care for the environment causes the North Pole ice to melt and coastal areas in Asia to flood. A weakened dollar and an immense budget deficit affect the global economy.

Hence, the world should be given the right to vote. Because the current situation is a blatant case of taxation without representation, against which the Americans rebelled in 1776. But of course the world will not be allowed to vote. The best we can hope for is that the Americans choose a leader who is deeply aware of the U.S.’s responsibility, as a superpower, for the rest of mankind.

The international community was able to limit America’s hegemony somewhat through organisations for international consultation, agreements and the corresponding judicial apparatus. But that system is in crisis, partly through the actions of the current American president.


The Europeans have lost their minds if they think for a minute Americans for one scond would allow them to vote in U.S. elections
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Ambiorix on January 04, 2008, 07:02:11 AM
Now some liberals in Europe demand the right to vote in the USA-elections as well!

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2825
Quote
Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections
From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Thu, 2008-01-03 11:45
A quote from the editorial in the Brussels newspaper De Standaard, 3 January 2008

American presidential elections are not “home affairs.” American decisions have repercussions all over the globe. The American mortgage crisis affects banks in Europe. The insatiable American demand for oil makes the Arabian sheiks rich. The American refusal to care for the environment causes the North Pole ice to melt and coastal areas in Asia to flood. A weakened dollar and an immense budget deficit affect the global economy.

Hence, the world should be given the right to vote. Because the current situation is a blatant case of taxation without representation, against which the Americans rebelled in 1776. But of course the world will not be allowed to vote. The best we can hope for is that the Americans choose a leader who is deeply aware of the U.S.’s responsibility, as a superpower, for the rest of mankind.

The international community was able to limit America’s hegemony somewhat through organisations for international consultation, agreements and the corresponding judicial apparatus. But that system is in crisis, partly through the actions of the current American president.


The Europeans have lost their minds if they think for a minute Americans for one scond would allow them to vote in U.S. elections

Make sure you don't have a democrat in office! We are standing in the front lines against islam here.
Our cities are under siege.


We have a terror-alert in Belgium and Holland  for more than a week now!
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 04, 2008, 12:56:15 PM
I hope that Chaim is wrong about Rudy.  I want to see him in the white house.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Lisa on January 04, 2008, 01:00:58 PM
Chaim, you have my full support.  I do not want McCain in the White House.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: judeanoncapta on January 04, 2008, 01:15:58 PM
McCain is such a disaster.

I would rather a democrat win than McCain.

Atleast the republicans will fight a democrat.

If we have McCain, we will have amnesty , no free speech, socialized health care and a myriad of liberal causes that only a RINO like McCain could ram through.

McCain is such a fake conservative, it's almost comedic.

If it's McCain vs. Obama or Hillary I may stay home and if it's McCain vs. Edwards,
I will vote for Edwards. He's too vain and stupid to damage this country as much as Hillary, Obama or McCain.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 04, 2008, 02:09:44 PM
Christians believe in the concept of an Antichrist, who, according to the Christian scriptures (the book of Revelation), will preside over a worldwide totalitarian government (like a worldwide Roman empire) that seeks to completely annihilate Christendom and Israel. Although Jews of course would not hold to such a concept, all of us do acknowledge that a one-world movement (the NWO) is taking place right before our eyes.

The Antichrist (capital A, for we believe that there are several smaller "antichrists" already sowing their poison, in preparation for the big one) will be an immensely popular, charismatic, persuasive figure who is able to unite all political backgrounds in support (sound anything like Hanoi John)?

Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Lisa on January 04, 2008, 02:12:14 PM
Hanoi John was in no way charismatic.  He looks like Lurch from the Addams Family.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 04, 2008, 02:37:31 PM
All I have to say is that we have to put our support for Guliani over Romney and McCain so that secular republicans abandon them.  I think the religious republicans like their chance with Huckabee and he will not slip..He will be a top 2 candidate for the republicans. 

However, I think the secular lefty republicans out number the religious conservative ones...therefore, if that is the case, we have to push for Guliani until it his him versus Huckabee...I dont' want it to be Mccain vs Huckabee because i think more republicans will opt for Mccain...

What do you guys think? did this make any sense?
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 04, 2008, 02:39:51 PM
Hanoi John was in no way charismatic.  He looks like Lurch from the Addams Family.
Yes, but the media idolizes him and he is able to draw big support from both parties. There isn't a lot of organized opposition to him from any quarters.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: RationalThought110 on January 04, 2008, 03:14:43 PM
I think the reason why Giuliani's campaign is collapsing is because he became obsessed with Florida.

By the beginning of November, Giuliani was closing in on Romney in NH and was a legitimate challenger to him in that state.  McCain was far behind both of them.  Then by Thanksgiving, Giuliani basically decided to stop campaigning in NH and McCain took away a lot of his support in that state.  Thus, McCain jumped at least 10 points in polls in that state while Giuliani fell about 10 percentage points.  Once McCain was a a solid 2nd in polls in NH, he then began to receive tons of media endorsements there.


If Giuliani didn't stop campaigning in NH, he would have maintained his position of at least 2nd there and McCain would never have made a comeback.  It's all Giuliani's fault that McCain has made this comeback.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: RationalThought110 on January 04, 2008, 03:20:21 PM
If Hillary won in Iowa, independents in NH would have probably decided that Hillary would be unstoppable in any other state for the Democrat nomination and would have all flocked to vote in the GOP primary.  However, since Obama won in Iowa, it's possible that many independents would vote in the Iowa primary to decide between the top three Democrat candidates.  So hopefully, most of McCain's independent fanbase won't vote in the GOP primary. 

The media is making it very tough to stop McCain.  If it's pointed out that McCain voted against tax cuts, for example, the media portrays it as "going negative."  It's called a policy difference; it's not an attack on McCain's character. 

Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: SerbChicago on January 04, 2008, 03:27:44 PM
what can we do mr.Chaim?you tell us and we will do it!
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: RationalThought110 on January 04, 2008, 03:51:57 PM


In my opinion, Thompson has no chance whatsoever. He is the laziest candidate I have ever seen. He got 13% of the vote in Iowa because he was supported by Congressman Steven King, who is very popular. But in New Hampshire, he will do very poorly.

Also, Thompson raised enough money to run advertising and have a staff in Iowa. But now he's broke.


The McCain campaign, desperate, for campaign funding, took out a $3 million loan.  He's relying on a win in NH, to raise money, get media attention, etc.  Not winning NH for him though could finish him so I agree that it's vital that McCain not win in NH.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Ari on January 05, 2008, 07:50:03 PM
The Republicans are far from perfect as we all know, but still in the end I believe we must support them over any Democratic nominee, whehter it be Clinton or worse yet Obama G-d forbid.  This would be a disaster for Israel and the American economy.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: JTFFan on January 05, 2008, 09:04:22 PM
The Republicans are far from perfect as we all know, but still in the end I believe we must support them over any Democratic nominee, whehter it be Clinton or worse yet Obama G-d forbid.  This would be a disaster for Israel and the American economy.

Correct  ;), Also Obama sold cocain to get through some schooling in his life, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: MasterWolf1 on January 05, 2008, 10:39:51 PM
One thing is for sure we must do what we have to defeat the Democrats.  The Reps are not good, the Dems are certified nightmares.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Zvulun Ben Moshe on January 05, 2008, 10:59:40 PM
I trust Chaim's intuition. Among other predictions, he was also right regarding Obama's chances.

However, I have a feeling that Huckabee will win in New Hampshire as well because of two reasons:

1) He won dramatically in Iowa;
2) His speech at the end was amazing;
3) McCain performed very badly in Iowa and may have already created the sense of an irrecoverable loser;
4) Because of his charisma, Huckabee has a greater potential to save America from the prospect of having a Black and in addition to that Muslim president.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Cyberella on January 05, 2008, 11:06:33 PM
Of course I support Huckabee over McCain.

I read someone's opinion on a political board that said that Huckabee is being promoted by the libs because they know that Obama can beat him. What do you think?  (I'm not too impressed with Gomer myself.)
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on January 05, 2008, 11:06:51 PM
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955)

THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO SUBPOENA AND INVESTIGATE ALL SUSPECTED "EXTREMISTS" AND/OR THOSE "SUSPECTED" OF HARBORING 'EXTREME THOUGHTS'.

ANYONE REFUSING TO TESTIFY WILL BE IMPRISONED.

ANYONE TAKING THE FIFTH AMENDMENT AS THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AGAINST SELF-INCRIMINATION, WILL BE IMPRISONED.

ANYONE GIVING TESTIMONY WHICH THE INVESTIGATORS CONSIDER "UNTRUE" WILL BE IMPRISONED.

THIS DEMOCRAT BILL HAS ALREADY PASSED THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES; IT IS NOW SPONSORED IN THE SENATE BY A REPUBLICAN, AND AS SOON AS THE SENATE PASSES IT, IT IS THE LAW.

OUR FRAUDULENT GOVERNMENT "LEADERS" INTEND TO ARREST AND IMPRISON ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THEM OR CRITICIZES THEM IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS ALREADY BUILT BY HALLIBURTON.

THINK THEY ARE GOING AFTER THE MUSLIMS?

THINK AGAIN...THEY'RE GOING AFTER ALL WHO OPPOSE THE MUSLIMS, ALL WHO OPPOSE SHARPTON & JACKSON, ALL WHO OPPOSE HOMOSEXUALITY, AND ALL WHO OPPOSE BUSH'S ROAD MAP.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: JTFFan on January 06, 2008, 05:17:41 PM
One thing is for sure we must do what we have to defeat the Democrats.  The Reps are not good, the Dems are certified nightmares.

Correct  ;), no action will be taken if DemoKKKrats are elected! >:(
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 06, 2008, 08:41:38 PM
How about stopping Obama!!  I don't want a muslim in the white house.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: JTFFan on January 06, 2008, 08:44:58 PM
How about stopping Obama!!  I don't want a muslim in the white house.

That would be a nightmare, the first muSSlim president! >:(

All the U.S. presidents have always been WASP, but a muSSlim or Black president would definitely bring diversity to the U.S. ;D >:(

If we had a righteous right-wing Jewish president that would be the best imo O0
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on January 07, 2008, 07:10:48 AM
BEWARE THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Ambiorix on January 07, 2008, 07:53:51 AM
BEWARE THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!

who? what?
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on January 07, 2008, 08:10:14 AM
McCain is The Manchurian Candidate!

The Viet Cong made him brush his teeth with Fluoride Toothpaste for several years.

Then he was brainwashed and "re-programmed" to return to the U.S., enter politics, and run for President.

One day after he becomes President, the Commies in Ho Chi Minh City will broadcast a certain "key" word, which McCain's fillings in his teeth will receive exactly the same as a radio receiver.

As soon as he hears that word, he instantly will become The Manchurian Candidate, working feverishly to make the U.S. the world's largest Communist Prison Camp.

You might not believe this is true, but you will change your mind when you see McCain step onto the White House lawn sporting a brand new "Ho Chi Minh" beard and looking like Kublai Khan!
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: RationalThought110 on January 07, 2008, 12:12:39 PM
Christians believe in the concept of an Antichrist, who, according to the Christian scriptures (the book of Revelation), will preside over a worldwide totalitarian government (like a worldwide Roman empire) that seeks to completely annihilate Christendom and Israel. Although Jews of course would not hold to such a concept, all of us do acknowledge that a one-world movement (the NWO) is taking place right before our eyes.

The Antichrist (capital A, for we believe that there are several smaller "antichrists" already sowing their poison, in preparation for the big one) will be an immensely popular, charismatic, persuasive figure who is able to unite all political backgrounds in support (sound anything like Hanoi John)?





People don't view McCain as charasmatic.  The one who you're thinking of is Barack Obama. 
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: RationalThought110 on January 07, 2008, 12:15:37 PM


That would be a nightmare, the first muSSlim president! >:(

All the U.S. presidents have always been WASP, but a muSSlim or Black president would definitely bring diversity to the U.S. ;D >:(

If we had a righteous right-wing Jewish president that would be the best imo O0


You've been around JTF long enough.  You should know that JTF is not in favor of a Jew becoming president.  Just look at the ones in congress and others such as Spitzer or Bloomberg.  Most of the time, they're all awful.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: RationalThought110 on January 07, 2008, 12:20:11 PM
I trust Chaim's intuition. Among other predictions, he was also right regarding Obama's chances.

However, I have a feeling that Huckabee will win in New Hampshire as well because of two reasons:

1) He won dramatically in Iowa;
2) His speech at the end was amazing;
3) McCain performed very badly in Iowa and may have already created the sense of an irrecoverable loser;
4) Because of his charisma, Huckabee has a greater potential to save America from the prospect of having a Black and in addition to that Muslim president.



GOP voters in Iowa and NH are very different so don't base what happened in Iowa with what will happen in NH.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: RationalThought110 on January 07, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
Sometimes, the websites of newspapers have an online forum. 

Here's a list of papers in NH:

http://www.usnpl.com/nhnews.php

http://www.newslink.org/nhnews.html


On the 2nd list, lets see if any of the websites of the "daily newspapers" have an online forum.  If any do, then try explaining to people there why they shouldn't support McCain.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: RationalThought110 on January 07, 2008, 01:39:37 PM
I know the strategy to stop McCain.  The task is to figure out how to carry it out.


Sometime around last January or February, McCain when on the Letterman or Leno show to informally declare his candidacy for the presidency.  While they were talking, the host (I forget which show--it was one of these two) said something about McCain's age.  He intended it to be a joke.  He didn't realize that it worried McCain.


McCain will turn 72 before the GOP convention.  No president has been that age during the first year of their first term. 

With the Congress, age doesn't appear to be as important with elections.  In the Senate for example, Ted Kennedy will be turning 76; Robert Byrd is 90.  There are probably some more in congress who are in that age range.  However, with the presidency, people usually don't want to elect a president to a first term who is in the 70's. 


In last night's FoxNews date, Chris Wallace mentioned at one point whether McCain would promise to, if elected, to not run for a 2nd term.  McCain was pissed off that his age was mentioned, he knows it hurts him in this election.  He tried to say how he doesn't want to make any declarations about it since he wouldn't want to be perceived by people as a "lame duck" during his first term. 


So in conclusion, McCain's supporters need to be reminded about his age during the primaries, before it's too late and he ends up as the GOP nominee.  How to do this, I'm not sure.   


Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: Ambiorix on January 07, 2008, 09:22:55 PM
I know the strategy to stop McCain.  The task is to figure out how to carry it out.


Sometime around last January or February, McCain when on the Letterman or Leno show to informally declare his candidacy for the presidency.  While they were talking, the host (I forget which show--it was one of these two) said something about McCain's age.  He intended it to be a joke.  He didn't realize that it worried McCain.


McCain will turn 72 before the GOP convention.  No president has been that age during the first year of their first term. 

With the Congress, age doesn't appear to be as important with elections.  In the Senate for example, Ted Kennedy will be turning 76; Robert Byrd is 90.  There are probably some more in congress who are in that age range.  However, with the presidency, people usually don't want to elect a president to a first term who is in the 70's. 


In last night's FoxNews date, Chris Wallace mentioned at one point whether McCain would promise to, if elected, to not run for a 2nd term.  McCain was pissed off that his age was mentioned, he knows it hurts him in this election.  He tried to say how he doesn't want to make any declarations about it since he wouldn't want to be perceived by people as a "lame duck" during his first term. 


So in conclusion, McCain's supporters need to be reminded about his age during the primaries, before it's too late and he ends up as the GOP nominee.  How to do this, I'm not sure.   





McCain is 72 !
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: takebackourtemple on January 07, 2008, 10:20:38 PM
   If McCain gets the ticket are we going to support the Democrat? If McCain makes it into the white house, he will automatically get the 2012 ticket and we will have no one to represent any of our views for that election either. Plus, whether he is in office for 4 or 8 years, by the end of his term, people will be so sick of the republican party that a democrat will take the following term. McCain is just as bad as Osama and Hitlery. At least if Osama or Hitlery makes it into the white house, it will be the worst four years the country ever has, but like Carter and Dinkins, they will perform so horribly that they won't be re-elected into office the next term. I hope my dreadful thinking doesn't come true and Rudy cleans up the country like he did to New York, but it does not look good right now.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 10:35:42 PM
I know the strategy to stop McCain.  The task is to figure out how to carry it out.


Sometime around last January or February, McCain when on the Letterman or Leno show to informally declare his candidacy for the presidency.  While they were talking, the host (I forget which show--it was one of these two) said something about McCain's age.  He intended it to be a joke.  He didn't realize that it worried McCain.


McCain will turn 72 before the GOP convention.  No president has been that age during the first year of their first term. 

With the Congress, age doesn't appear to be as important with elections.  In the Senate for example, Ted Kennedy will be turning 76; Robert Byrd is 90.  There are probably some more in congress who are in that age range.  However, with the presidency, people usually don't want to elect a president to a first term who is in the 70's. 


In last night's FoxNews date, Chris Wallace mentioned at one point whether McCain would promise to, if elected, to not run for a 2nd term.  McCain was pissed off that his age was mentioned, he knows it hurts him in this election.  He tried to say how he doesn't want to make any declarations about it since he wouldn't want to be perceived by people as a "lame duck" during his first term. 


So in conclusion, McCain's supporters need to be reminded about his age during the primaries, before it's too late and he ends up as the GOP nominee.  How to do this, I'm not sure.   





McCain is 72 !

I thouht he was in his late 70's to early 80's he looks quite old.
Title: Re: We must try to stop McCain.
Post by: RationalThought110 on January 08, 2008, 12:28:00 PM
Although I don't think his age is the major problem with him, I will take your advice.  I will post on New Hampshire craigslist: 

John McCain:  Just because he's got one foot in the grave doesn't mean he has to dig America's.


His age will be a problem for him.  I think you could tell from his expressions that the few times it's been mentioned, how he gets worried that people will remember it when they think of him.

Try doing the same for Michigan.