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Title: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 02:11:11 AM
Hi there!

I am a new member. :)

I fail to understand why there's so much hatred around here. It appears like a Nazi Forum to me. There are at least a couple of fundamental flaws in your understanding.

#1 You say Islam is the culprit, because it encourages people to commit atrocities against humanity. Even if it's true, why are people following it? Suppose a book says: go ahead and behead the first guy you see. Would you take it seriously? But the fact that some people are taking it seriously proves that they're intrinsically hateful, venomous beings, and would've become terrorists, with or without a hateful koran to inspire them.

I am not sure if you understand this, but if you do, you'll see that people are evil, and religion simply gives them a moral sanction, perhaps some inspiration as well. So your idea that Islam is responsible for terrorism makes little sense. If there's no Islam, some other ideology would continue to inspire these blokes to become terrorists. Not so long ago, Christianity was doing a good job at this! ;D

#2 Hatred is never the way forward. Love is. All I see here is hatred for the Muslims, hardly any love for the ideals you allegedly hold dear. Every nation, every civilization has been barbaric. They still are, and Islamic nations/civilizations are no exceptions to this. The western civilization is probably more barbaric than any, and all your talk about having invented 'this or that', having achieved 'this or that' doesn't wash.

Even the Nazis were intellectually superior, they had enough intelligence and creativity to convince millions. But does that mean they were right in trying to exterminating the Jews? ;) Absolutely not! Bottom line, just because the western civilization has achieved so much, it doesn't change the fact that they too were barbarians, they too slaughtered millions with their inquisitions, crusades, imperialism, and the rest. But hypocrites like you try to 'whitewash' these crimes as 'necessary evils', 'white man's burden', and what else not. Likewise, the Muslim may also justify his crimes as a 'Muslim's burden' :D or whatever.

Point being, you hypocrites make it sound as if you're angels, and anyone other than a Judeo-Christian westerner is evil, scum of the earth. The things you say about Mexicans, Blacks etc. are so horrible, Hitler would be proud. It's commonly understood that you become the very thing you hate. By hating the Nazis, you've become Nazis. Congratulations!

Love,
Mahatma
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 08, 2008, 02:14:26 AM
Where do you come from Ganhi?
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Scriabin on February 08, 2008, 02:16:33 AM
Hatred is necessary and has been with us since the beginning of time.  We have nothing against decent people of all groups. 
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 08, 2008, 02:18:55 AM
sniff sniff *smells troll* resumes sniffing
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: newman on February 08, 2008, 02:19:57 AM
'Jonny Jappati' here is forgetting one thing.

Western christiannity has undergone a reformation and rejected the mentallity behind the inquisition and crusades. iSSlam has undergone NO reformation but is actually getting more backward and fundamentalist.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Scriabin on February 08, 2008, 02:20:51 AM
'Jonny Jappati' here is forgetting one thing.

Western christiannity has undergone a reformation and rejected the mentallity behind the inquisition and crusades. iSSlam has undergone NO reformation but is actually getting more backward and fundamentalist.

An excellent point.  What do you have to say about that, Mahandas?
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: newman on February 08, 2008, 02:22:30 AM
'Jonny Jappati' here is forgetting one thing.

Western christiannity has undergone a reformation and rejected the mentallity behind the inquisition and crusades. iSSlam has undergone NO reformation but is actually getting more backward and fundamentalist.

An excellent point.  What do you have to say about that, Mahandas?

You mean the Gandhis?
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 08, 2008, 02:39:16 AM

#1 You say Islam is the culprit, because it encourages people to commit atrocities against humanity. Even if it's true, why are people following it? Suppose a book says: go ahead and behead the first guy you see. Would you take it seriously? But the fact that some people are taking it seriously proves that they're intrinsically hateful, venomous beings, and would've become terrorists, with or without a hateful koran to inspire them.


Listen Mahatma and listen real good.  No one is born intrinsically evil.  We all have free choice.  But when little children are indoctrinated into thinking the evil book known as Ko-ran is divine from heaven, they will believe every word of it.  Their culture reinforces the idea in them.  Fear tactics and intimidation shove this text and lifestyle down their throats.  By the time they are a functioning adult they have been thoroughly indoctrinated by it.  And depending on the country, if it's Arab or Muslim, they will have the accompanying Jew-hatred spewed to them in the state-run media to thoroughly dehumanize Jews, tactics learned directly from German Nazi war criminals by Arab powers after WWII, sent to them courtesy of the CIA.  

If a person is raised with a certain set of values as to what is right and what is wrong, he will use those values by which to judge himself and others and their accompanying actions.  When he has evil Ko-ran as the moral compass for what is good and what is bad, he will use this to judge his actions.  So now when he makes his decision with free will, he believes what he is doing is right.  He is not telling himself he is doing an evil thing.  He is telling himself that his religion condones this (evil) thing (what we think is evil) as good.  Indeed, much evil is 'sanctified' by the ko-ran as "holy."  

The Muslims have given self-justification for the worst atrocities imaginable through a supposedly 'holy' text, they are convinced they are doing the will of their deity with these acts,  but you dismiss this as 'evil will do evil.'  You think they are intrinsically so sick and twisted that Arabs and those born into Islam would commit vicious murder, pillaging, and rape in the name of 'allah' if there was not a book telling them it is in the name of 'allah'?  That they would still do this to such an overwhelming extent if they were raised with western morals or Judeo-Christian value system?  That they would utterly despise Jews and Christians as descendants of pigs and monkeys and treat them as subhuman, if there was not some text telling them this was the divine plan of the universe?  And you have the nerve to call US hateful Nazis??? How dare you.  You have such utter contempt for Arabs and Muslims that you would call them intrinsically flawed barbarians.  And you have the audacity to call us hateful.  Unbelievable.

You can preach all day long about your pride of the colored man and 'white man was once a barbarian too,' but this is irrelevant.  We are in the here and now.  We can see the evil facing the world and we must confront it.  Your hero Gandhi wouldn't survive this.  Time to take your head out of the sand.


"Even the Nazis were intellectually superior,"


You sick twisted freak.  You wouldn't know intelligence if it smacked you in the head.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 08, 2008, 02:42:14 AM
YOU GET 24 HOURS TO LEAVE MR. GHANDI !
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 08, 2008, 03:19:27 AM
Listen Gandhi go and preach your crap else where, you freak.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: kahaneloyalist on February 08, 2008, 03:43:23 AM
Mahamtma Gandhi was a profoundly wicked man who supported the Arab Imperialists, and said the Jews should commit mass suicide so the Germans wouldnt have the sin of killing us on their hands, and I hope you soon join your namesake in the hell he is currently experiencing.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: briann on February 08, 2008, 03:54:14 AM
'Jonny Jappati' here is forgetting one thing.

Western christiannity has undergone a reformation and rejected the mentallity behind the inquisition and crusades. iSSlam has undergone NO reformation but is actually getting more backward and fundamentalist.

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY THE F*** cant people figure this out before they post such stupidity. 

OBVIOUSLY, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism, Budhism, etc etc all have tainted pasts, but guess what???? They've overcome them and adapted well to a civilized world.  In the case of JudeoChristianity, weve led the charge.

Go home and read your Koran!!!  You dont fool us for a second. Your not a hindu or a sikh.  Your a filthy Muslim.



Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Dexter on February 08, 2008, 04:05:17 AM
Hey, Mahatma Gandhi.

Hatred is justified against your enemies, those that don't hate the people who seek their destruction are people who have no connection to reality.

1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times, nor exist in most Muslims of our era. There is an Indian cult name Kagatis who killed over a million of people since the 17th century C.E. using strangling, they were worshiping the Hindu God of Death [Kali]. They were completly sure what they were (and are) doing is fine, without any affinity to liberalism, Human rights etc'. Today's Muslim leaders don't want that their people will know what's Democracy, Liberlism, Human rights and more. Those who do, and are extreamly observant, become mostly to terrorists or something else.

2. The hippie way of thinking will lead us to the abyss and will doom us. The world is based on voilence, all other things: freedom, liberalism, the right of free speech etc' is derived of voilence only. If you want to keep all the rights we have the way they are, we need to use voilence against those who want to destroy us and all of the human advancement for an Islamic world wide crule rule.

Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 08, 2008, 06:02:13 AM
heya mr ghandi...just make sure you don't end up like that twisted freak ghandi  :::D :::D...
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on February 08, 2008, 06:27:46 AM
It has long been known that Mahatma Gandhi drank his own steaming hot urine upon awakening every day of his life.

He claimed to have such control over his own mind that he totally abstained from sex throughout his life.

When your favorite morning wake-up is to pee in a cup and drink it because you think it is delicious, nobody in their right mind would ever kiss you; let alone have sex with you.

You are self-righteous, condescending, naive, as well as incredulously stupid.

Go enjoy yourself a nice steaming hot cup of your own piss.

Maybe you can find a neighborhood full of "at risk" youth...you can go there on foot just like Gandhi, and teach yo' peeps' how to drink their own piss.

They love white people so you'll be welcome there.

I'm sure that after you tell them to piss in a mayonnaise jar and drink it down they will love you, and then you can use your urine breath to tell them to vote for Osama Hussein Barakabama.

Then you can move into th' hood where the elevator shafts, stairwells, and hallways smell like your favorite breakfast.

Just think of the diversity!



 

 

Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Dr. Dan on February 08, 2008, 06:45:19 AM
Hi there!

I am a new member. :)

I fail to understand why there's so much hatred around here. It appears like a Nazi Forum to me. There are at least a couple of fundamental flaws in your understanding.

#1 You say Islam is the culprit, because it encourages people to commit atrocities against humanity. Even if it's true, why are people following it? Suppose a book says: go ahead and behead the first guy you see. Would you take it seriously? But the fact that some people are taking it seriously proves that they're intrinsically hateful, venomous beings, and would've become terrorists, with or without a hateful koran to inspire them.

I am not sure if you understand this, but if you do, you'll see that people are evil, and religion simply gives them a moral sanction, perhaps some inspiration as well. So your idea that Islam is responsible for terrorism makes little sense. If there's no Islam, some other ideology would continue to inspire these blokes to become terrorists. Not so long ago, Christianity was doing a good job at this! ;D

#2 Hatred is never the way forward. Love is. All I see here is hatred for the Muslims, hardly any love for the ideals you allegedly hold dear. Every nation, every civilization has been barbaric. They still are, and Islamic nations/civilizations are no exceptions to this. The western civilization is probably more barbaric than any, and all your talk about having invented 'this or that', having achieved 'this or that' doesn't wash.

Even the Nazis were intellectually superior, they had enough intelligence and creativity to convince millions. But does that mean they were right in trying to exterminating the Jews? ;) Absolutely not! Bottom line, just because the western civilization has achieved so much, it doesn't change the fact that they too were barbarians, they too slaughtered millions with their inquisitions, crusades, imperialism, and the rest. But hypocrites like you try to 'whitewash' these crimes as 'necessary evils', 'white man's burden', and what else not. Likewise, the Muslim may also justify his crimes as a 'Muslim's burden' :D or whatever.

Point being, you hypocrites make it sound as if you're angels, and anyone other than a Judeo-Christian westerner is evil, scum of the earth. The things you say about Mexicans, Blacks etc. are so horrible, Hitler would be proud. It's commonly understood that you become the very thing you hate. By hating the Nazis, you've become Nazis. Congratulations!

Love,
Mahatma


 :::D  You're funny Mahatama! Hitler would be proud of US?!  Hitler would give YOU the medal of honor!!!   :::D
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 08, 2008, 06:46:29 AM
you sick litle man, while you were fornicating, your dad died...you bad bad man ::) 
(this is actually why he abstained)
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: mord on February 08, 2008, 07:04:41 AM
Gandhi told Jews don'nt ressist just sit down when  the nazis come. He was also a traitor to India his grandson said Jews love war and was forced to resign from a position  at a university
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Dexter on February 08, 2008, 07:29:10 AM
Lenin called those people "Useful Idiots".
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 07:41:42 AM
Thank you all for falling into my trap, and revealing your hatred and stupidity. O0 I was wrong in comparing you freaks to nazis. You are much worse! :D
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: New Yorker on February 08, 2008, 07:46:21 AM

Yup, a troll, good call Chaimfan. Ban time.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 08:02:29 AM
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1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times,

Christians killed millions of women by burning them at stakes, so in what way are they different from Muslims and the rest? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. ;)
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 08, 2008, 08:10:54 AM
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1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times,

Christians killed millions of women by burning them at stakes, so in what way are they different from Muslims and the rest? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. ;)

lol  :::D :::D Sorry I think thats pretty valid point  8;)

Except it was not millions, a couple of thousand no more. The Main witch trials in the States really only took a few hundred lives. And they also burnt men.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 08:16:22 AM
You have such utter contempt for Arabs and Muslims that you would call them intrinsically flawed barbarians.  And you have the audacity to call us hateful.  Unbelievable.

Perhaps, if you learn to read, you wouldn't arrive at such conclusions. ;D I wasn't referring to Arabs at all, but to humans in general.

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You can preach all day long about your pride of the colored man and 'white man was once a barbarian too,' but this is irrelevant.

I am against pride of all kinds, whether it's your silly white pride, or someone else's jewish pride, whatever. Pride is the real enemy, not the Muslim or leftist or whoever. And the white man seems pretty barbaric even today, considering the last fifty years of history alone. Nuclear attacks, world wars, gulf wars, Vietnam war, and much more. All this doesn't point to any 'civilization', gimme a break.

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We are in the here and now.  We can see the evil facing the world and we must confront it.  Your hero Gandhi wouldn't survive this.  Time to take your head out of the sand.

And your solution? Hateful people from christian/jewish/other backgrounds getting together and slaughtering muslims, is that it? ::) Sorry, no takers!

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You sick twisted freak.  You wouldn't know intelligence if it smacked you in the head.

Obviously, you missed the point. Even assuming that they were, would you justify their atrocities? If not, why won't you extend the same logic to the west's harsh treatment of Muslim Nations? That was the principal matter in that post with the nazi thing being just an instance. But you, a faithful jeeew or a loyal cheesus lover, got all offended. :laugh:
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 08:18:00 AM
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1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times,

Christians killed millions of women by burning them at stakes, so in what way are they different from Muslims and the rest? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. ;)

lol  :::D :::D Sorry I think thats pretty valid point  8;)

Except it was not millions, a couple of thousand no more. The Main witch trials in the States really only took a few hundred lives. And they also burnt men.

You must be living on Mars. ;D Check this out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Dexter on February 08, 2008, 08:19:26 AM
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1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times,

Christians killed millions of women by burning them at stakes, so in what way are they different from Muslims and the rest? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. ;)
Christianety doesn't justify such acts, Islam does.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Dexter on February 08, 2008, 08:20:17 AM
Thank you all for falling into my trap, and revealing your hatred and stupidity. O0 I was wrong in comparing you freaks to nazis. You are much worse! :D
Now that's a debate.  ;D
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Dexter on February 08, 2008, 08:30:12 AM
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I am against pride of all kinds, whether it's your silly white pride, or someone else's jewish pride, whatever. Pride is the real enemy, not the Muslim or leftist or whoever. And the white man seems pretty barbaric even today, considering the last fifty years of history alone. Nuclear attacks, world wars, gulf wars, Vietnam war, and much more. All this doesn't point to any 'civilization', gimme a break.
If you think being proud of being part of a collective certain is bad than you are, probably, treveled in the deseret to much and started to be defective of fata morgana and other stupid utophian crazy ideas. Being pride of who you are will solve the problem of the identity of most people, who seek to be a part of a group that has (mostly) a samiliar characteristic aspects. No metter what you'll do, people will always be proud of what the are, just saying you are proud of what you are (ethniclly speaking) doesn't mean you will thing that other groups are infrior, that's nationalistic way of thinking and it can get into racism etc'.

Today's weastern culture is much more advenced than any other culture on Earth and it need to be spreaded, especiely when there is a counter-culture that try to destroy you and your culture.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 08, 2008, 08:36:27 AM
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1. Islam was created at the 7th century, the starting point of liberalism, freedom, peace etc' didn't existed in these times,

Christians killed millions of women by burning them at stakes, so in what way are they different from Muslims and the rest? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. ;)

lol  :::D :::D Sorry I think thats pretty valid point  8;)

Except it was not millions, a couple of thousand no more. The Main witch trials in the States really only took a few hundred lives. And they also burnt men.

You must be living on Mars. ;D Check this out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt

any drip posts on that site and they post rubbish.

I have studied the witch trials for many years, and myth and legend blows everything out of proportion, only an idiot would believe that  :::D :::D
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: abdithefaithful on February 08, 2008, 08:45:36 AM
"Gandhi", although I admit some of the issues you bring to the table might appear to be sensible to the naive and uninformed, the truth is that those of us who actively participate on this message board and who loyally watch JTF's compelling public access cable television program have been "educated" to know better... Sure, some of the stuff you say sounds "good on paper", but in the "real world", in this TURBULENT MESS of a world that we now all live, your sense of politically-correct rhyme and reason has flown out the window because we now face forces so evil and demonic that we have to take what may appear to many as the "radical" stance for justice that you see demonstrated by a majority of us here on this board. While I believe that most everybody is entitled to their own opinion, after all, that IS the American way, I feel that your opinions and positions are passe at best because you don't take into account the "REAL" state of the world in which we now live!
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Lisa on February 08, 2008, 09:17:27 AM
You guys, I refuse to take seriously anyone who calls himself Mahatma Ghandi.  As Kahane Loyalist correctly pointed out, Ghandi was a [censored] excuse of a man who insisted that Jews go passively to their deaths, rather than fighting the Nazis.  After the Holocaust, he had the nerve to be against a Jewish state, because he did not want his beloved goat forinicators to be "displaced." 

So frankly, we're not interested in your moral relativism.  Don't you dare come here and compare the actions of Western nations fighting wars to a bunch of sand monkey terrorists who are so afraid of fighting like men, that they hide behind the skirts of their women and children. 

We are proud of living in a First World country.  If you think the West is so evil, you are free to move to any Third World [censored] country of your choice.

Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: MasterWolf1 on February 08, 2008, 10:29:39 AM
Is this some Muzzie jerkoff?

Hey Khara,  if you think you going to waltz in here to start some crap think again.  By the way you know how a Muslim is born?   

When a camel jumps a woman from behind and 9 months later squat
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 10:44:27 AM
You guys, I refuse to take seriously anyone who calls himself Mahatma Ghandi.  As Kahane Loyalist correctly pointed out, Ghandi was a [censored] excuse of a man who insisted that Jews go passively to their deaths, rather than fighting the Nazis.  After the Holocaust, he had the nerve to be against a Jewish state, because he did not want his beloved goat forinicators to be "displaced." 

So frankly, we're not interested in your moral relativism.  Don't you dare come here and compare the actions of Western nations fighting wars to a bunch of sand monkey terrorists who are so afraid of fighting like men, that they hide behind the skirts of their women and children. 

We are proud of living in a First World country.  If you think the West is so evil, you are free to move to any Third World [censored] country of your choice.

With foul-mouthed women like you, I am not surprised that the early Christians had to indulge in witch hunting! 8) May the practice be revived, if only to put people in their place.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Lisa on February 08, 2008, 10:53:04 AM
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With foul-mouthed women like you, I am not surprised that the early Christians had to indulge in witch hunting! Cool May the practice be revived, if only to put people in their place.

Hah, you just gave yourself away you imbecile!  You have nerve coming on here and criticizing us for being hateful!  First you criticize the Western countries for burning witches at the stake, and now you advocate the very same thing! 

You are a hypocrite!  You are not fooling anyone with your talk of pacifism.  So get lost!
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 10:56:03 AM
We are proud of living in a First World country.  If you think the West is so evil, you are free to move to any Third World [censored] country of your choice.

Your 'first world' is built upon genocide of native populations, so you're hardly in a position to make such demands.

Second, instead of venting your frustrations on the net, why don't you make the effort to send these people back? I don't think your 'first world' countries will even consider your insane demands, because cheap labor from third-world reduces their costs considerably. So it'll be economic suicide for the 'first world' to control immigration. :( Understand demand and supply principle, before writing nonsense. Politicians take economic considerations into account, not your silly rants against immigrants.

Which means, you must learn to live happily with your Muslim neighbors, perhaps you can date Muslim men, even marry them, and find out more about their culture. That way, understanding and mutual respect are preserved, thus making way for a peaceful world. :)
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Ari on February 08, 2008, 11:05:07 AM
Good, and tell the 66 Muslim countries surrounding little old Israel to love and respect the entire G-d given land of the state of Israel and I might buy into your all you need is love scenario a bit more.  I think the great replies by fellow JTF members have put you in your place. O0
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Lisa on February 08, 2008, 11:06:40 AM
The reason Europe allows unfettered Muslim immigration is because they don't want their oil supply from the Middle East cut off. 

The reason the U.S. allows millions of Mexicans to sneak into the U.S. is twofold.  First off, the Democrats want to be able to promise a whole new underclass votes, in exchange for welfare benefits taken from productive citizens. 

The big business right wants them for the cheap labor costs. 

However, the majority of Americans do not want them here.  They do not want their public schools to be overcrowded.  They do not want to be carjacked and killed by illegal alien drunk drivers.  They don't want to pay the prison costs for these people.  And they are tired of having hospitals go bankrupt when illegals use the emergency rooms as primary care facilities. 

As for this country being built on slave labor, go peddle your stupidity elsewhere.  This country was built on Judeo/Christian values by white men.  The ante-bellum South, which had plenty of slave labor was nowhere as advanced technically or economically as the North. 

Also, if slave labor is all it takes to build up a country, why are Mexico and Latin America all still Third World countries? 
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 11:07:56 AM
Good, and tell the 66 Muslim countries surrounding little old Israel to love and respect the entire G-d given land of the state of Israel and I might buy into your all you need is love scenario a bit more.

I sympathize with Israel, hope you guys survive. But in all honesty, the problem was created by 'other' powers, certainly not by the Muslims. ;)
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Ari on February 08, 2008, 11:12:43 AM
The Muslims attacked the day after the Israeli flag was restored to her rightful homeland.  Also you must realize JTF and it's supporters are reactive, not pro-active.  We do not hate anyone unless their behavior gives us cause to. 
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 11:14:06 AM
The reason Europe allows unfettered Muslim immigration is because they don't want their oil supply from the Middle East cut off. 

The reason the U.S. allows millions of Mexicans to sneak into the U.S. is twofold.  First off, the Democrats want to be able to promise a whole new underclass votes, in exchange for welfare benefits taken from productive citizens. 

The big business right wants them for the cheap labor costs.


Bottom line, you can't do anything about immigration, except whining and weeping in a corner. Right? I pity you. :D

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However, the majority of Americans do not want them here.  They do not want their public schools to be overcrowded.  They do not want to be carjacked and killed by illegal alien drunk drivers.  They don't want to pay the prison costs for these people.  And they are tired of having hospitals go bankrupt when illegals use the emergency rooms as primary care facilities.

Yup, majority of Americans would rather favor wars that kill hundreds of thousands over poor immigrants trying to make a living. 

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As for this country being built on slave labor, go peddle your stupidity elsewhere.  This country was built on Judeo/Christian values by white men. 

Yeah, the country was built on the skulls of 150m native Americans, Judeo-Christian values indeed. ;D Where's Jeeeesus when you need him?
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Ari on February 08, 2008, 11:19:42 AM
I wouldn't even have a problem with immigration if they came here and were genuinely proud to be Americans.  Instead, many new immigrants infiltrate the country, seek to take advantage of all it's benefits, and then rail against the American Government and seek to undermine it.  Instead of being proud of their new culture, they cling to their past national identity, in many instances especially nowadays, evil cultures that hate America and our Judeo-Christian values.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Mahatma Gandhi on February 08, 2008, 11:22:38 AM
I wouldn't even have a problem with immigration if they came here and were genuinely proud to be Americans.  Instead, many new immigrants infiltrate the country, seek to take advantage of all it's benefits, and then rail against the American Government and seek to undermine it.  Instead of being proud of their new culture, they cling to their past national identity, in many instances especially nowadays, evil cultures that hate America and our Judeo-Christian values.

Somewhat rational response for the first time in a looooog time here. :) Thanks.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Lisa on February 08, 2008, 11:28:45 AM
Acutally Ghandi,

We on this forum have every right to express our opinions about immigration, or whatever else we feel like.  So if you don't like it, *you* can stop whining.

Meanwhile, Americans have every right to decided who comes into their country. And if we don't want people coming here just to take advantage of our welfare benefits then that's our prerogative.   We want immigrants who come here to be Americans.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: TruthSpreader on February 08, 2008, 11:30:16 AM
I smell a phony here.

Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Dr. Dan on February 08, 2008, 11:31:57 AM
You guys, I refuse to take seriously anyone who calls himself Mahatma Ghandi.  As Kahane Loyalist correctly pointed out, Ghandi was a [censored] excuse of a man who insisted that Jews go passively to their deaths, rather than fighting the Nazis.  After the Holocaust, he had the nerve to be against a Jewish state, because he did not want his beloved goat forinicators to be "displaced." 

So frankly, we're not interested in your moral relativism.  Don't you dare come here and compare the actions of Western nations fighting wars to a bunch of sand monkey terrorists who are so afraid of fighting like men, that they hide behind the skirts of their women and children. 

We are proud of living in a First World country.  If you think the West is so evil, you are free to move to any Third World [censored] country of your choice.

With foul-mouthed women like you, I am not surprised that the early Christians had to indulge in witch hunting! 8) May the practice be revived, if only to put people in their place.

OH, who's the Nazi now?  I think i sense a hipocrite... :::D
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: nessuno on February 08, 2008, 11:56:59 AM
Welcome to the forum Mahatma Ghandi. 
It should give us great joy to see that you are posting on the forum. 
Your being here indicates that we are on the right track.
Our message is so strong...that you feel you have to grace us with your presence.  ^-^
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on February 08, 2008, 12:03:47 PM
Mahatma:  "Thank you all for falling into my trap, and revealing your hatred and stupidity.  I was wrong in comparing you freaks to nazis. You are much worse!"

Just drink another glass of your own urine and forget about it!  :::D
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Dr. Dan on February 08, 2008, 12:09:05 PM
Good, and tell the 66 Muslim countries surrounding little old Israel to love and respect the entire G-d given land of the state of Israel and I might buy into your all you need is love scenario a bit more.

I sympathize with Israel, hope you guys survive. But in all honesty, the problem was created by 'other' powers, certainly not by the Muslims. ;)


Mr. Ron Paul, you have a lot to learn about the Muslims and Islam if you actually think this way. 

Anybody and any nation which wants to colonize other lands and create a one world regime and a one world reich is evil...white or black christian jewish hindu or muslim.  Right now, the Muslisms want to take over the world.  Don't be so blind
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Dr. Dan on February 08, 2008, 12:12:23 PM
I wouldn't even have a problem with immigration if they came here and were genuinely proud to be Americans.  Instead, many new immigrants infiltrate the country, seek to take advantage of all it's benefits, and then rail against the American Government and seek to undermine it.  Instead of being proud of their new culture, they cling to their past national identity, in many instances especially nowadays, evil cultures that hate America and our Judeo-Christian values.

In a country like the US which doesn't exaclty have a defined culture and is pretty much a mix of cultures, I woudln't necessary agree that those who move here should be proud of a "new culture".  On the other hand, those who immigrate here should learn English and take advantage of all the benefits this country has to offer and contribute to society rather than just take take take.  I have no problem with peopel of other cultures immigrating here who practice their culture and their language in teh privacy of their own home.  However, they have to first and foremost learn English and get along with others as others need to get along with them.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Shlomo on February 08, 2008, 12:18:34 PM
Where's Jeeeesus when you need him?

I don't think you are a religious person at all. I have read your posts and I think you are a troll trying to stir things up with the members of the forum. That's warning #2. You are very close to a ban.

How DARE you say we sound like nazis! We died because of nazis and what did we do to those piles of excrement? We helped make Germany a prosperous country.

The difference between us and the nazis (including the muslims) is they started a war against us because they were jealous of the Jewish people. It is our right and duty to defend ourselves and our families. You'll never see a Jew with a suicide belt on killing innocent people. You'll never find a Jew burning people alive in ovens.

To say we sound lie nazis is not only ignorant, it's evil.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: abdithefaithful on February 08, 2008, 03:14:07 PM
I stand by my position expressed in my earlier post.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: MarZutra on February 08, 2008, 03:49:53 PM
Hi there!

I am a new member. :)

I fail to understand why there's so much hatred around here. It appears like a Nazi Forum to me. There are at least a couple of fundamental flaws in your understanding.

#1 You say Islam is the culprit, because it encourages people to commit atrocities against humanity. Even if it's true, why are people following it? Suppose a book says: go ahead and behead the first guy you see. Would you take it seriously? But the fact that some people are taking it seriously proves that they're intrinsically hateful, venomous beings, and would've become terrorists, with or without a hateful koran to inspire them.

I am not sure if you understand this, but if you do, you'll see that people are evil, and religion simply gives them a moral sanction, perhaps some inspiration as well. So your idea that Islam is responsible for terrorism makes little sense. If there's no Islam, some other ideology would continue to inspire these blokes to become terrorists. Not so long ago, Christianity was doing a good job at this! ;D

#2 Hatred is never the way forward. Love is. All I see here is hatred for the Muslims, hardly any love for the ideals you allegedly hold dear. Every nation, every civilization has been barbaric. They still are, and Islamic nations/civilizations are no exceptions to this. The western civilization is probably more barbaric than any, and all your talk about having invented 'this or that', having achieved 'this or that' doesn't wash.

Even the Nazis were intellectually superior, they had enough intelligence and creativity to convince millions. But does that mean they were right in trying to exterminating the Jews? ;) Absolutely not! Bottom line, just because the western civilization has achieved so much, it doesn't change the fact that they too were barbarians, they too slaughtered millions with their inquisitions, crusades, imperialism, and the rest. But hypocrites like you try to 'whitewash' these crimes as 'necessary evils', 'white man's burden', and what else not. Likewise, the Muslim may also justify his crimes as a 'Muslim's burden' :D or whatever.

Point being, you hypocrites make it sound as if you're angels, and anyone other than a Judeo-Christian westerner is evil, scum of the earth. The things you say about Mexicans, Blacks etc. are so horrible, Hitler would be proud. It's commonly understood that you become the very thing you hate. By hating the Nazis, you've become Nazis. Congratulations!

Love,
Mahatma
More ignorance.  Take a hike to a library and actually learn something....
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: fjack on February 09, 2008, 08:21:32 PM
Dear Ghandi, Why don't you go back to camel land and cook some curry and sit and goove on the turd world slum it took you and your porkers a thousand years to create. You have some nerve even mentioning the name of the United States and even this forum. You belong in the sand paradise from which you sprang from, not among a civilized country. You belong back in the stone age with the child molester founder of your evil cult. Take your do do ran and use it in place of toilet paper. It is far better than using your hand and then chow down with a wonderful meal of goat innards.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 09, 2008, 09:05:01 PM
You guys, I refuse to take seriously anyone who calls himself Mahatma Ghandi.  As Kahane Loyalist correctly pointed out, Ghandi was a dorkless excuse of a man who insisted that Jews go passively to their deaths, rather than fighting the Nazis.  After the Holocaust, he had the nerve to be against a Jewish state, because he did not want his beloved goat forinicators to be "displaced." 

So frankly, we're not interested in your moral relativism.  Don't you dare come here and compare the actions of Western nations fighting wars to a bunch of sand monkey terrorists who are so afraid of fighting like men, that they hide behind the skirts of their women and children. 

We are proud of living in a First World country.  If you think the West is so evil, you are free to move to any Third World craphole country of your choice.

With foul-mouthed women like you, I am not surprised that the early Christians had to indulge in witch hunting! 8) May the practice be revived, if only to put people in their place.

OH, who's the Nazi now?  I think i sense a hipocrite... :::D
This is the PERFECT example of your "peace" open-minded freaks of this world. They don't understand, that what causes a quarel between neighbours, is what causes war between princes. And look at this bozzo, quick to forget his "peacefully moral" "values".
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 09, 2008, 09:25:05 PM
You guys, I refuse to take seriously anyone who calls himself Mahatma Ghandi.  As Kahane Loyalist correctly pointed out, Ghandi was a dorkless excuse of a man who insisted that Jews go passively to their deaths, rather than fighting the Nazis.  After the Holocaust, he had the nerve to be against a Jewish state, because he did not want his beloved goat forinicators to be "displaced." 

So frankly, we're not interested in your moral relativism.  Don't you dare come here and compare the actions of Western nations fighting wars to a bunch of sand monkey terrorists who are so afraid of fighting like men, that they hide behind the skirts of their women and children. 

We are proud of living in a First World country.  If you think the West is so evil, you are free to move to any Third World craphole country of your choice.

With foul-mouthed women like you, I am not surprised that the early Christians had to indulge in witch hunting! 8) May the practice be revived, if only to put people in their place.

OH, who's the Nazi now?  I think i sense a hipocrite... :::D
This is the PERFECT example of your "peace" open-minded freaks of this world. They don't understand, that what causes a quarel between neighbours, is what causes war between princes. And look at this bozzo, quick to forget his "peacefully moral" "values".

So true, Boer!
He's a BIG hypocrite!
Witch hunts got many innocent people KILLED!
NOW this crazy person is advocating killing????
"Why the hate" dude?
Why the hate? you HYPOCRITE?
yeah!
peace now bro, don't be that evilish...we have to stop killing, love, pot, volkswages...love...so much love that we overpopulate the earth...and starve of oxygen...yeeeeaaaasssss...hmm mmmm. Peace out bro, have a pottie
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: JTFFan on February 09, 2008, 10:25:44 PM
Ghandi sounds like a troll who wants us to be moderate and peaceful :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 09, 2008, 10:26:41 PM
I wonder if he will go off and starve himself  ^-^
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: JTFFan on February 09, 2008, 10:29:06 PM
I wonder if he will go off and starve himself  ^-^

Same here, lol ;D :D
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: cjd on February 09, 2008, 10:35:12 PM
Its pointless to keep something like this around he has done nothing here but insult and divide. Lets hasten the demise. Starvation is a long process.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 09, 2008, 10:37:12 PM
Quote
Starvation is a long process

I have know people to last a couple of months without food, water on the other hand is a different story.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: The Shadow on February 09, 2008, 10:43:51 PM
Hi there!

I am a new member. :)

I fail to understand why there's so much hatred around here. It appears like a Nazi Forum to me. There are at least a couple of fundamental flaws in your understanding.

#1 You say Islam is the culprit, because it encourages people to commit atrocities against humanity. Even if it's true, why are people following it? Suppose a book says: go ahead and behead the first guy you see. Would you take it seriously? But the fact that some people are taking it seriously proves that they're intrinsically hateful, venomous beings, and would've become terrorists, with or without a hateful koran to inspire them.

I am not sure if you understand this, but if you do, you'll see that people are evil, and religion simply gives them a moral sanction, perhaps some inspiration as well. So your idea that Islam is responsible for terrorism makes little sense. If there's no Islam, some other ideology would continue to inspire these blokes to become terrorists. Not so long ago, Christianity was doing a good job at this! ;D

#2 Hatred is never the way forward. Love is. All I see here is hatred for the Muslims, hardly any love for the ideals you allegedly hold dear. Every nation, every civilization has been barbaric. They still are, and Islamic nations/civilizations are no exceptions to this. The western civilization is probably more barbaric than any, and all your talk about having invented 'this or that', having achieved 'this or that' doesn't wash.

Even the Nazis were intellectually superior, they had enough intelligence and creativity to convince millions. But does that mean they were right in trying to exterminating the Jews? ;) Absolutely not! Bottom line, just because the western civilization has achieved so much, it doesn't change the fact that they too were barbarians, they too slaughtered millions with their inquisitions, crusades, imperialism, and the rest. But hypocrites like you try to 'whitewash' these crimes as 'necessary evils', 'white man's burden', and what else not. Likewise, the Muslim may also justify his crimes as a 'Muslim's burden' :D or whatever.

Point being, you hypocrites make it sound as if you're angels, and anyone other than a Judeo-Christian westerner is evil, scum of the earth. The things you say about Mexicans, Blacks etc. are so horrible, Hitler would be proud. It's commonly understood that you become the very thing you hate. By hating the Nazis, you've become Nazis. Congratulations!

Love,
Mahatma

Come on, we Jews ain't that stupid.  Well some are, if they believe what you write.  We know the Arabs have been killing us for thousands of years.  And the Koran tells them to do it!  And you know it!  So stop being insincere!!  I resent it!
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 09, 2008, 11:39:06 PM
Western christiannity has undergone a reformation and rejected the mentallity behind the inquisition and crusades.
They make it less obvious these days...
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Christian Zionist on February 10, 2008, 01:05:00 AM
The word Mahathma in Indian language means "Great Soul" (Maha - Great & Athma - Soul).  Unfortunately that "great" soul's message of "love" is still destroying India!  He was the one who was responsible for the creation of muslim Pakistan and the growth of Islam in India. He was constantly opposing the actual patriotic Indian freedom fighters who wanted to suppress islam in the Indian sub-continent.  India and the rest of the world are still paying the price for "Mahathma's" irresponsible actions. 
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: artgijo on February 10, 2008, 01:38:21 AM
This fellow is a dirty Muslim from India, who has taken the name Mahatma, they deceice cheat and achieve their goals. Kick him out of the forum, he is supporting Muslim Terrorists.
gijo
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: Lisa on February 10, 2008, 09:38:01 AM
Judea non Capta already banned him.
Title: Re: Why the hatred?
Post by: newman on February 10, 2008, 09:45:07 AM
This fellow is a dirty Muslim from India, who has taken the name Mahatma, they deceice cheat and achieve their goals. Kick him out of the forum, he is supporting Muslim Terrorists.
gijo

Persian and Indian muSSlims are more pathetic than arabs. Stupid arabs have nothing better. But Indians and Persians have/had great cultures and traditions of their own before iSSlam ever befouled their lands.

Gigo and Ashish are proud hindus who defend their people's traditions, history and culture. Indians like mahatma is a spinless ants who bend over while iSSlam rapes them and their country.