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Title: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: cjd on April 29, 2008, 09:24:11 PM
I was listening to Hannity today and he played a clip of Obama cutting Pastor Wright loose this morning. He claims that after hearing Wright speak the other night he is starting to see how divisive and full of hate speech Wright has become. Talk about slamming the barn doors shut after the cows are out in the Pasture. Who does Obama think he is conning. He has been listening to the same drivel for the past 20 years. Its funny what a drop in a politicians poll numbers will do.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: nessuno on April 29, 2008, 10:15:04 PM
I agree.  
That horse already left the barn.
Obama holding a press conference today, about Pastor Wright, was a misstep.


Talk about burning bridges.  I don't think Pastor Wright will take being tossed from the train again lightly.  :::D


Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Mishmaat on April 29, 2008, 10:25:51 PM
Obama, like most politicians, would sell his own mother for a vote. He actually sold his own grandmother, but that's besides the point.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: MasterWolf1 on April 29, 2008, 10:27:18 PM
They both so full of it.  But let them destroy each other
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: spiritus_persona on April 29, 2008, 10:36:31 PM
I almost feel sorry for that idiot. ::)
No one can really take this guy seriously.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Mishmaat on April 29, 2008, 10:42:08 PM
It'll be cool if the hindered Wright turns against obama and exposes him and shows evidence that obama was in on it all the time!!

Wishful thinking! The oh so wrong Jeremiah Wright is not going to sabotage the chance of a "bruh" being elected President.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: MasterWolf1 on April 29, 2008, 10:45:15 PM
They are both feces
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Zvulun Ben Moshe on April 29, 2008, 10:54:15 PM
I feel, you are all making mistake thinking that speech was an accident.

I believe it is a set up.

I will tell you why.

The real blow was when Fox discovered Wright's statements about 9/11 and AIDS.

Obama was caught off guard and did not disown him, which hurt him a lot.

So instead of losing the democrating primaries, he maybe asked Wright to make that speech, so that Obama could disown him and Farrakhan completely this time and become officialy "WHITE" and somewhat uninvolved with all that black racism.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on April 29, 2008, 10:55:25 PM
I was listening to Hannity today and he played a clip of Obama cutting Pastor Wright loose this morning. He claims that after hearing Wright speak the other night he is starting to see how divisive and full of hate speech Wright has become. Talk about slamming the barn doors shut after the cows are out in the Pasture. Who does Obama think he is conning. He has been listening to the same drivel for the past 20 years. Its funny what a drop in a politicians poll numbers will do.

Obama is willing to do anything, he is a taqqiyah muzzie
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: AsheDina on April 29, 2008, 11:34:03 PM
I almost feel sorry for that idiot. ::)
No one can really take this guy seriously.

  Spiritus: i believe that you are on paltalk, right?  they DO take this IDIOT seriously- TOTALLY. it is SCRAY too- there IS something about him that is EVIL, like some evil spirit inside of where his heart may have been.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 29, 2008, 11:38:19 PM
I have a hard time believing this is a real break. It is entirely possible that they privately worked out a "blowup" so as to save Obama's skin.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: DownwithIslam on April 29, 2008, 11:39:52 PM
I have a hard time believing this is a real break. It is entirely possible that they privately worked out a "blowup" so as to save Obama's skin.

It doesn't really matter, all the democrats are drek. John Mccain is slightly better but he is still drek. I wish John Bolton would run for president hehe.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 29, 2008, 11:41:32 PM
Juan McQueen is worse than Hitlery.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Gruzinit on April 30, 2008, 12:08:41 AM
Obama's "outrage" stems more from the fact that Wright insidious comments are a thorn in the side of his campaign. My guess, is that Wright is pissed at Obama's pathetic attempts to disassociate himself from his so-called church, he's not too happy about being left to hold the bag, and if he's gonna go down in flames, he's taking Obama with him.

Wright insidious tongue is a gift that keeps on giving... ::)
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Cyberella on April 30, 2008, 01:16:17 AM
I feel, you are all making mistake thinking that speech was an accident.

I believe it is a set up.

I will tell you why.

The real blow was when Fox discovered Wright's statements about 9/11 and AIDS.

Obama was caught off guard and did not disown him, which hurt him a lot.

So instead of losing the democrating primaries, he maybe asked Wright to make that speech, so that Obama could disown him and Farrakhan completely this time and become officialy "WHITE" and somewhat uninvolved with all that black racism.


I think you're right.

I think this whole thing was planned to get rid of the Rev.Wright/white hate/America albatross around Obama's neck.
Obama had already refused to denounce Wright, so what could he do?
 
Yes, you're right, 'He  asked Wright to make that speech, so that Obama could disown him and Farrakhan completely this time and become officialy "WHITE" and uninvolved with all that black racism.'

 Dump Wright. Dump Sharpton. Dump Jesse. Then they all meet after the election and toss back the scotches, bring on the women, break out the cigars and laugh about how they dupped whitey. 

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Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: RationalThought110 on April 30, 2008, 04:41:52 AM
That hypocrite!

    Remember when Obama gave a speech in March when he stated that Jeremiah Wright was like a member of his family.  And that disowning him would be like disowning all blacks people. 

   Obama keeps changing his story and he refuses to admit what he knew and when he knew it. 


       If it truly took Obama this long to understand Wright's statements, then he obviously can't be trusted to meet with the president of Iran.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: RationalThought110 on April 30, 2008, 04:44:23 AM
It'll be cool if the hindered Wright turns against obama and exposes him and shows evidence that obama was in on it all the time!!


Obama will probably call Wright next week and tell him that would he stated today in public was just "politics" and he didn't actually mean it. 

Wright stated on Sunday that when Obama says something about him in public, he knows that Obama is just saying what he needs to, to try and get elected.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: RationalThought110 on April 30, 2008, 04:47:54 AM
I feel, you are all making mistake thinking that speech was an accident.

I believe it is a set up.

I will tell you why.

The real blow was when Fox discovered Wright's statements about 9/11 and AIDS.

Obama was caught off guard and did not disown him, which hurt him a lot.

So instead of losing the democrating primaries, he maybe asked Wright to make that speech, so that Obama could disown him and Farrakhan completely this time and become officialy "WHITE" and somewhat uninvolved with all that black racism.


It's possible that they made a deal where Wright would reiterate those comments in public and then give Obama the chance to verbally disown him--they'll probably still meet in private-- to fool people into thinking that Obama no longer has a relationship with or that Obama no longer supports Farrakhan. 








Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: AsheDina on April 30, 2008, 05:30:57 AM
I feel, you are all making mistake thinking that speech was an accident.

I believe it is a set up.

I will tell you why.

The real blow was when Fox discovered Wright's statements about 9/11 and AIDS.

Obama was caught off guard and did not disown him, which hurt him a lot.

So instead of losing the democrating primaries, he maybe asked Wright to make that speech, so that Obama could disown him and Farrakhan completely this time and become officialy "WHITE" and somewhat uninvolved with all that black racism.


It's possible that they made a deal where Wright would reiterate those comments in public and then give Obama the chance to verbally disown him--they'll probably still meet in private-- to fool people into thinking that Obama no longer has a relationship with or that Obama no longer supports Farrakhan. 










  I BELIEVE that it IS a SET UP, Rational- perfect timing.... 'Hello Americans, I have decided to go back to the faith of my FATHER, I am going back to islam- Now, REMEMBER stupid Americans.....its a 'free country'"  -barf obama 
THAT is what I believe. Period. Leftists will say, YES!! WE CAN!!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Masha on April 30, 2008, 06:35:00 AM
You, guys, are such cynics. I never thought of this being a set-up until I read this thread. But maybe you are right. Somebody said: "you can never be too paranoid." the longer I live, the more I see the truth of this statement.  ;D
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Zvulun Ben Moshe on April 30, 2008, 07:48:30 AM
OK. Here are my arguments.

In yesterday’s speech Obama condemned Wright’s statements about AIDS and 9/11, which were not parts of Wirght’s NAACP speech, but of the speech he made in his church, after which Obama refused to disown him.

In fact, Wright’s NAACP speech wasn’t even 5% offensive of what the first speech was.

So how come you condemn your pastor after his second speech and refer to his first speech, after which everything was seemingly fine.

Here’s what I think.

Obama saw that not disowning Wright after the first speech harmed him in PA, so he wanted to do that, but…. what to do? – he already refused to denounce his pastor.

Therefore he needed another reason. NAACP was a good one to do that.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Dr. Dan on April 30, 2008, 07:55:32 AM
Come on...Obama was losing ground and he knew it was his crazy pastor so he did this move of "detaching himself".

I have my doubts.  His advisors are all racist supremecists communists.  The Zebra cannot change the color of his stripes unless it's a chamelion.

Obama did this to make people happy...he didn't do it for pure genuine reasons.  He hates American, he hates Israel and he hates Whites.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: nessuno on April 30, 2008, 11:46:39 AM
I still think this is a genuine rift and a huge miscalculation (made 20 years ago) on Obama's part.

Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Scriabin on April 30, 2008, 11:51:51 AM
I still think this is a genuine rift and a huge miscalculation (made 20 years ago) on Obama's part.

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: q_q_ on April 30, 2008, 12:17:06 PM
Obama only broke off with his pastor, after the pastor went around trying to promote himself , not caring that it would damage obama`s campaign.

It does not mean that Obama disagreed with what the pastor was saying for 20 years.  It is just a matter of, Obama remaining loyal to his pastor - at some cost, and his pastor betraying him for his own personal gain, and Obama now saying screw him.

But set up or not. This is not because of the pastor`s views. Obama doesn`t have much of a problem with those views.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: cjd on April 30, 2008, 05:26:22 PM
Obama made a great mistake yesterday when he came out and denounced Wright completely. He should have rode the tide and stuck to his original story of not being aware of what Pastor Wright preached. As Unbelievable as Obama's original position was about not knowing what Wright had been preaching all the past 20 years he has now found himself in the middle of a controversy that makes him look like a fool.  Obama painted Wright as a  old idiot who could not be taken seriously and Wright was not ready to take that station up in life yet. Wright has a book coming out and must be planning dozens of talks and appearances that may net him millions of dollars in the next year or so. Obama classifying him as a senile old racist was just not going to fit into that picture. In order for him to be in demand he needs to be a sharp on the ball racist which was what he proved he is in his appearance the other night. Obama made his deal with the devil 20 years ago and I think he was trying to re neg on the deal. Obama needed to understand that if he was going to Washington pastor Wright was going to be right by his side. The deal was set in stone and signed in blood.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: JTFFan on May 01, 2008, 04:58:55 AM
They are both feces

Completely agree
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: RationalThought110 on May 01, 2008, 10:25:25 AM
I still think this is a genuine rift and a huge miscalculation (made 20 years ago) on Obama's part.




Just like Jeremiah Wright, Obama's wife has stated that America is a mean country. 

Obama has stated that the number of blacks in jails are five times greater than the number who go to school.  It's a lie though.  Obama believes it and he learned it from Wright.  So people can't say with any certainty that Obama doesn't believe what Wright says.  After all, he and his wife have basically repeated some of the stuff that Wright has stated. 

 Larry Elder mentioned how Obama lied about that claimed statistic.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on May 01, 2008, 10:17:01 PM
Obama is a liar.  He only "disowns" his pastor because he is worried about not getting elected.  He obviously subscribes to the same belief system as Wright having prayed in and raised his family in Wright's church for 20 years.  And all the things written in his book also prove his allegiance to Islam and radical racist Black nationalism.

It is the liberal media and all Obama's supporters who want to sweep the Islamic allegiance under the rug and sweep Jeruhmiuh Wrong under the rug, but the worst part is that you have these so-called 'conservative' pundits like a sean hannity insinuating that they believe this charade.  For weeks all I kept hearing was Sean Hannity say "well obama really has to distance himself more strongly from this, how can he say he doesn't reject this, he has to denounce this strongly to convince me" etc.  Convince you that he tells a good lie?  Why condemn his own beliefs that he shares with his mentor?   Now that he does "strongly condemn" what are the sean hannities of the world left with?  That Obama denounced the extremist (exactly what they were whining about and demanding) so pundits are satisfied and obama is only an unsuitable candidate based on his liberal views, but not his racism.  A joke.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Cyberella on May 01, 2008, 10:42:08 PM
Hannity is still just about the only mainstream person who constantly hammers away at Obama night after night.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: cjd on May 01, 2008, 11:01:04 PM
Hannity is still just about the only mainstream person who constantly hammers away at Obama night after night.
Limbaugh does pretty good. He has a thing called operation chaos going on and he is the supreme leader of the movement. He has some weird nick name for himself that escapes me now. Supposedly he has Republicans registering as Democrats to hock the primary elections. Once they vote in the primaries he has them change their affiliation back to Republican. Whatever he is doing its annoying the Democrats to no end.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Scriabin on May 02, 2008, 12:02:50 PM
Hannity is still just about the only mainstream person who constantly hammers away at Obama night after night.
Limbaugh does pretty good. He has a thing called operation chaos going on and he is the supreme leader of the movement. He has some weird nick name for himself that escapes me now.

SNC USOC (sp.)

Make no mistake about it Limbaugh's operatives are members of the forum.  Limbaugh himself may visit here from time to time.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: eb22 on May 02, 2008, 02:42:36 PM
I feel, you are all making mistake thinking that speech was an accident.

I believe it is a set up.

I will tell you why.

The real blow was when Fox discovered Wright's statements about 9/11 and AIDS.

Obama was caught off guard and did not disown him, which hurt him a lot.

So instead of losing the democrating primaries, he maybe asked Wright to make that speech, so that Obama could disown him and Farrakhan completely this time and become officialy "WHITE" and somewhat uninvolved with all that black racism.

 
         I'm very suspicious that what you expressed is indeed the case.     I don't trust Barack Hussein Obama or Jeremiah Wright.      The timing of Wright's speech,    with it being so close to the Indiana and North Carolina primaries,    leads me to believe that what Wright did must be part of some strategy to HELP Barack Hussein Obama.         
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: cjd on May 02, 2008, 04:38:50 PM
Hannity is still just about the only mainstream person who constantly hammers away at Obama night after night.
Limbaugh does pretty good. He has a thing called operation chaos going on and he is the supreme leader of the movement. He has some weird nick name for himself that escapes me now.

SNC USOC (sp.)

Make no mistake about it Limbaugh's operatives are members of the forum.  Limbaugh himself may visit here from time to time.
Thats it. Thats the name that Limbaugh has for himself. I am sure many of the talk show hosts visit our forum because many times we may be talking about something on the forum that really is not in the news and before you know it one of the talk show hosts are talking about it on the radio almost as if they were reading it off the thread. If my suspicions are right it would be great if one of them had enough fortitude to do a interview with Chaim.
Title: Re: Obama Disowns Pastor Wright Today
Post by: Zvulun Ben Moshe on May 03, 2008, 11:14:47 PM
I feel, you are all making mistake thinking that speech was an accident.

I believe it is a set up.

I will tell you why.

The real blow was when Fox discovered Wright's statements about 9/11 and AIDS.

Obama was caught off guard and did not disown him, which hurt him a lot.

So instead of losing the democrating primaries, he maybe asked Wright to make that speech, so that Obama could disown him and Farrakhan completely this time and become officialy "WHITE" and somewhat uninvolved with all that black racism.

 
         I'm very suspicious that what you expressed is indeed the case.     I don't trust Barack Hussein Obama or Jeremiah Wright.      The timing of Wright's speech,    with it being so close to the Indiana and North Carolina primaries,    leads me to believe that what Wright did must be part of some strategy to HELP Barack Hussein Obama.         


What made you think that I said anything different?