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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: SW on August 16, 2009, 07:49:22 AM
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Shalom everyone
Last night we had a great celebration. I was there with my grandma. Like every year they had some food stands from different countries. This year they had a German one, Bosnian and a Russian one. I went the first time to the Russian food stand. They sold Russian skewers with cucumbers. Very tasty. Loved it! Then I went to the German food stand. And what does a German food stand sell? Right, Bratwurst (sausages). Lastly I went to the Bosnian food stand. They had something I never before ate. Not that bad.
Later at 10 pm my grandma went home and I was alone there. By the way we were only a Christian community.
I drank some beer and went to the Russians. There were a lot Russians. I sat there and watched them and listened to them. Later on the music was very loud and you heard Russian music. Most people danced. So I sat there between the Russians which were around 50. I was half-drunk like everyone there. There was a Russian woman who asked me something but I didn't understood it. She asked it in Russian. I said I don't speak Russian. Then we talked a bit like what I am doing alone there and about everything and anything.
After a time her husband sat next to me and asked me why I sit alone between Russians. That was truely a good question. I sat there because I like their behave and they way they talked. We talked about Russia and its power and about Germany. He asked me a question which was really a good question. He asked me "Why all people followed this a-hole bastard Adolf Hitler?". That were his words. I answered him that they were brainwashed but deep in me I hadn't an answer why people did it. He said that Stalin was the same as sHitler. He said he was a murderer like sHitler. Then we talked about WW2 and the death camps. All the innocent people who died and the terrible and horrible Nazi methods to kill Jews, disabled people, Russians and all other enemies of the Nazis. I almost wept while we were talking. Then he asked me again "Why Heil and every followed him??"
He said I am a young intelligent and great man. He never saw a young man like me before who was interested that much in politics and religion. He said that we need more "open eyed" people who care about our future and security. I was glad there was someone who understand the problems and the threat. A great Russian man who was against Communism, Nazism and Islam.
The conversation was going on and from Nazism we came to Terrorism and Islam. He said the most terrible and unhuman terrorist act was 9/11. There would never be something bigger or more terrible in the future without WW3, he said. He asked me again "Why does no one do anything against it? It's all over the world, in the USA, Russia, Europe, Israel, India, China,... . Why the people don't wake up like me and you. One day it will make boom and it's WW3."
He said Islam is an evil religion because there are so many killings. He said "They blow up themselfs. For what? For Allah?! Why?". Because they want to kill innocent people like you and me, I answered. We compared the suicide bomber with the Kamikaze attacks in WW2. There are a lot of similars to Nazism and Islam.
After ca. 10 beer we became more religious. He asked what we can do to stop that terrorism and killing. I said that there is only one way, we need to defend ourselfes! But Jesus don't allow us to kill, he said. That was true. Jesus forbid killing but we have a right to defend ourselfes! But he said "We can't kill, we are Christians and Jesus forbid it". There was a discussion about it but in the end he agreed that we have to defend ourselfes to protect our parents, children and country.
"Christianity is as big as Russia - The biggest" he said. Agreed and I said "So we will win, so help me God!"
Both of us were very drunk. He saw a Cadillac and wanted to buy it :laugh: . I asked him how much money it is in Russian currency. But he didn't know the Russian currency :laugh:. He asked his wife and she said ruble.
The rest of the night/morning we talked about the Cadillac and how we will go home. He wanted to call to Russia and order an airplane ;D
It was a great, funny and interesting evening/ night with some serious issues we talked about.
Later on I wrote a bit crap here on the forum. But I was not that drunk that I couldn't write. I walked normally (just fallen down 2 or 3 times). ;D
That was my Saturday night :)
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He asked me a question which was really a good question. He asked me "Why all people followed this a-hole bastard Adolf Hitler?
I would have been very polite but answered him.How should i know i wasn't alive at Hitlers time.Then i would ask him why did Russians support Stalin?
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You've had a good time in purely Russian style - to drink alcohol and discuss global issues :)
Your Russian friend is a good man.
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He asked me a question which was really a good question. He asked me "Why all people followed this a-hole bastard Adolf Hitler?
I would have been very polite but answered him.How should i know i wasn't alive at Hitlers time.Then i would ask him why did Russians support Stalin?
That's a good question. But he also said he hates Stalin and of course those who followed him blind like sHitler. And today the same with Islam.
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There's the one diference between Hitler and Stalin: the former was elected as chancelor in democratic elections and latter was a dictator from the start who inherited his power from another tyrant Lenin who led a coup de etat against democratic Russian goverment. While Hitler didn't opress Germans (unless they were Jewish, disabled or outright oposing) Bolsheviks stared their reign by mass terror agasint Russian elites, and even concurent revolututionary parties like miensheviks or anarchists and only secured their regime after bloody civil war. For me Germany was secuded by nazis while Russia was raped and enslaved from the start.
One thing in favor for Germans is that shitler is not glorified like stalin and his empire are in Putin's Russia. Yes we're heading towards WW IV (the third one was the Cold War) but unfortunetly the mayority of people are to busy consuming the MSM pulp to care or even notice.
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There's the one diference between Hitler and Stalin: the former was elected as chancelor in democratic elections and latter was a dictator from the start who inherited his power from another tyrant Lenin who led a coup de etat against democratic Russian goverment. While Hitler didn't opress Germans (unless they were Jewish, disabled or outright oposing) Bolsheviks stared their reign by mass terror agasint Russian elites, and even concurent revolututionary parties like miensheviks or anarchists and only secured their regime after bloody civil war. For me Germany was secuded by nazis while Russia was raped and enslaved from the start.
One thing in favor for Germans is that shitler is not glorified like stalin and his empire are in Putin's Russia. Yes we're heading towards WW IV (the third one was the Cold War) but unfortunetly the mayority of people are to busy consuming the MSM pulp to care or even notice.
True the Russian Govt still likes Stalin
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As far as Stalin and Hitler go they were both of the same mentality. The only thing that made them different was the fact that Hitler was an expansionist. Hitler would have enslaved all of Russia if he could have. Stalin's concern at first was keeping the German army out of Russian territory. As the war was closing Stalin felt that retaining control of the iron curtain countries that the Russian army occupied at the close of the war in Europe would give Russia a buffer against German expansionist tendencies. While I understand why Stalin insisted in retaining control of the iron curtain countries after WW2 I don't agree that he should have been allowed to do so. Both were filthy animals that sent millions to their deaths and should be rotting in the lowest sections of hell.
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cjd, Russian bolsheviks were also expansionists. Their final goal was "World revolution" and establishing of the Communist rule all over the planet. Actually, in 1920 they tried to occupy Poland and move further West but were defeated by Polish army.
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Sounds like you had a blast but I am concerned that you drank so much. Getting drunk is not productive and, although in my early 20s I did drink 'too much', it is bad for your health.
My impression of Russians is not as 'rosey' as your own. Virtually every Russian I have met has absolutely no religion. This includes one of the Synagogue officers at my local progressive synagogue. This man told me that he didn't even beleive in G-d because when he lived in Russia it was dangerous for Jews to observe their religion.
I also was mocked by a Russian woman at my company once I started to talk about the Jewish faith. She was talking like "Religion is the opiate of the masses, etc."....
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Sounds like you had a blast but I am concerned that you drank so much. Getting drunk is not productive and, although in my early 20s I did drink 'too much', it is bad for your health.
My impression of Russians is not as 'rosey' as your own. Virtually every Russian I have met has absolutely no religion. This includes one of the Synagogue officers at my local progressive synagogue. This man told me that he didn't even beleive in G-d because when he lived in Russia it was dangerous for Jews to observe their religion.
I also was mocked by a Russian woman at my company once I started to talk about the Jewish faith. She was talking like "Religion is the opiate of the masses, etc."....
Yeah. The night was awesome. And yes, I drank a bit to much. But I know how much I can drink until I can't walk, think or do whatever is necessary to live. The most important thing for me if I am drunk is that I can think and walk. That are the most important things I think.
I have no problem with Russians. I only met friendly Russians.
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Sounds like you had a blast but I am concerned that you drank so much. Getting drunk is not productive and, although in my early 20s I did drink 'too much', it is bad for your health.
My impression of Russians is not as 'rosey' as your own. Virtually every Russian I have met has absolutely no religion. This includes one of the Synagogue officers at my local progressive synagogue. This man told me that he didn't even beleive in G-d because when he lived in Russia it was dangerous for Jews to observe their religion.
I also was mocked by a Russian woman at my company once I started to talk about the Jewish faith. She was talking like "Religion is the opiate of the masses, etc."....
I have to agree with Muman. Drunkenness, social or otherwise, is not fitting behavior for a Kahanist. You need to set a better example than this for the world. It's particularly bad that you are bragging about it.
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Of course I do agree that to much drinking is not good!
I am not someone who is drinking often a lot. It was an exception.
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GermanKahanist - I implore you to think why sHitler came to power in Germany and why fascism took such an unprecedentedly ugly variety in Germany. I think you know the answer. If not, I can tell you what I think. And it has nothing to do with being intelligent - nazi were truly supported by the whole German populace - intelligent and not, young and old, ex communists and ex capitalists. Here is a hint:
Monty python Hitler in England
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVxM5IBLeU4
This video is much deeper than its satire - it is a comment on the whole German people. I truly hope that Germans changed and that Prussian Snottiness, detachment from reality (facts don’t matter), paranoia (Jews are the cause of all the world’s problems), delusions of grandeur (Uber Menschens), mass hysteria have disappeared. Germans were a truly sick people after centuries of "father" figures at the helm of their fiefdoms - never a revolution, never a democracy - always a nanny state, etc, etc. sHitler couldn't come to power in any other country and did what he did.
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Can't disagree with the above.
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Can't disagree with the above.
Same here.
I don't think most Germans has changed.
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Can't disagree with the above.
Same here.
I don't think most Germans has changed.
This is unnerving and surprising. Care to open a new thread to discuss modern Germans? I would be very interested in this topic. I hoped that Germans did change, after all, since 1945 they have enjoyed democracy for longest time time in their history. It would be a pity for such great and talented people to fail humanity test again in a distant future.
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I will open a new topic.