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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Imerica on April 21, 2007, 07:44:54 PM
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Since the topic of discussion in JTF forums are sometimes gered toward how negative black people are and hip hop are, I thought I'd post this; even if no one reads this thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2pu6jAWvw8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UlQM3jSaZk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBa55sDTIiA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbzkwgigFC8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl54ABY8VgY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNcloTmvTeA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxyYP_bS_6s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAjPuKO6VU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxjz80EJIw
Please, if you could (or would like to) respond to the videos I've posted. What are your opinions about them i,e. the context, style or whatever you'd like to comment on.
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I have an ancient dialup piece of crap for a PC, so I can't watch any videos, but I am not against rap/hip-hop that has positive messages and does not stand for racism, drugs, or the gangsta lifestyle. I welcome your pointing out decent rap artists for sure.
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The most positive aspect of hip hop is that it gets white girls to take their clothes off and have 'sexy time' with you.
It is like an aphrodisiac.
In fact, it IS an 'Afro' disiac. ;D
For the white woman, sex with a black man is the ultimate symbol of the high life, of upward mobility: she unleashes her true desire, in an uninhibited fashion, while listening to the music that rocks her world, dancing and having fun. Say goodbye to the old barriers. She is a young woman with the whole world in front of her. S he can do anything she likes, screw anyone and work anywhere.
The black man comes as the Lo rd and Saviour to the white woman.
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Fruit, have you been smoking some Afro-weed? :D :P ::)
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The most positive aspect of hip hop is that it gets white girls to take their clothes off and have 'sexy time' with you.
It is like an aphrodisiac.
In fact, it IS an 'Afro' disiac. ;D
For the white woman, sex with a black man is the ultimate symbol of the high life, of upward mobility: she unleashes her true desire, in an uninhibited fashion, while listening to the music that rocks her world, dancing and having fun. Say goodbye to the old barriers. She is a young woman with the whole world in front of her. S he can do anything she likes, screw anyone and work anywhere.
The black man comes as the Lo rd and Saviour to the white woman.
Wow. I don't even know how to comment to this response.
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Imerica, Fruit of the Loins is just a lonely young man who is convinced that he has no chance with white women, since they're all going with black men.
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Imerica, Fruit of the Loins is just a lonely young man who is convinced that he has no chance with white women, since they're all going with black men.
And when they aren't lasciviously dancing with black men they're looking up at the images of very fit black men on the screens in the nightclubs, and that booming funky music is ringing out, everyone is getting into the atmosphere, all the worries of Anglo life washed away and the spirit of tropical jubilation washes over them like a tidal wave.
I have walked into nightclubs and formerly shy and retiring white girls are turned into nymphs and dancers almost of a mythological quality: the negro works his magic, he is like a snake charmer, he seduces the white woman out of her basket. And she wriggles like a snake, and beckons him to come near unto her, and the two are intertwined like snake and fasces.
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Imerica, as a member of the JTF forums you have to learn to all but ignore everything FOTL says, otherwise you will quickly lose your sanity.
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One time I went into the Cotton Club, and there was a young black man there, along with a collection of white male thugs. (One of the bouncers, a very tall guy, had blood on his shirt at one point.) And I went up to the bar, and a black-haired woman with a pierced tongue demanded that I smile - the black bouncer, tall and bald and ripped, stood and watched, smiling at me. But I am so small and ugly compared to such a black man - yet this black-haired vixen asked me to smile? Why should I smile? I am inferior in your eyes to this gigantic [censored] standing nearby.
And the pounding hip hop made me feel giddy - it made me feel profoundly sexual, as it were - and I looked, and saw a young blonde standing a little further up in the club, totally on her own despite being fit, and she was gyrating, shaking her thing, with her hands above her head, as it were, beckoning a seducer to come hither. But I did not go up to her - how could I, deformed dwarf and chimp that I am, worthless piece of crud that I am! - and yet neither did the black guy.
If the black guy did go up to her he would have been able to take her and have her for the night.
Black men have supremacy over us.
White women prefer them.
The black forms of music, white woman consider superior.
White women everywhere want black men.
And they are happy to let us know that we are inferior compared to them ....
GIve me equality.
I dream of a day when white women will someday begin to see white men as human again.
But I don't hold my breath.
I die to escape this horror of being born white-skinned and ugly.
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I still don't know what to say to him. But that is sad. But the reality would be that the reason that he can't find a date with a white woman is because he's always paying attention to the black men who are in relationships with some of the white women he's interested in.
Fruit, you need some help man. First of all, you should be looking for your OWN white woman, not for a woman who's already with someone else. If I thought like you I'd have never married my husband. lol
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Imerica, as a member of the JTF forums you have to learn to all but ignore everything FOTL says, otherwise you will quickly lose your sanity.
Alas, I think its too late. LOL Fruit has ruined it for me. LOL
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The African prerogative is the realm of dance and seduction. I blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by even coming near to a blonde beauty. But the love of blonde and black is foreordained, and a mighty splendour to the Holy One (blessed be). The gorgeous blonde shall never lay a finger upon me, I shall never ride a bus alone, and the black man will inherit all these things.
Last summer a black man in my city bared his entire torso waiting for a bus. When he got on the bus he seduced around seven beautiful young white women. He was listening to hip hop on his MP3 player. Their music and their beautiful bodies are their secret weapons. We white guys cannot compete. And thus, we retreat into ourselves and become autistic. We are genetic refuse. G-d deliver us from this pain.
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The African prerogative is the realm of dance and seduction. I blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by even coming near to a blonde beauty. But the love of blonde and black is foreordained, and a mighty splendour to the Holy One (blessed be). The gorgeous blonde shall never lay a finger upon me, I shall never ride a bus alone, and the black man will inherit all these things.
Last summer a black man in my city bared his entire torso waiting for a bus. When he got on the bus he seduced around seven beautiful young white women. He was listening to hip hop on his MP3 player. Their music and their beautiful bodies are their secret weapons. We white guys cannot compete. And thus, we retreat into ourselves and become autistic. We are genetic refuse. G-d deliver us from this pain.
I don't think your inferriority is real. I do think that you play upon stereotypes. But if you want to get into a serious relationship with the blonde white woman of your dreams, you must first fix yourself mentally. If a woman really loves you, you dont' have to worry about the way you look because it won't matter to her, if she's real.
That's about all I can tell you.
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I still don't know what to say to him. But that is sad. But the reality would be that the reason that he can't find a date with a white woman is because he's always paying attention to the black men who are in relationships with some of the white women he's interested in.
Fruit, you need some help man. First of all, you should be looking for your OWN white woman, not for a woman who's already with someone else. If I thought like you I'd have never married my husband. lol
None of the attractive white women are interested in me at all, because they lived next to many very attractive young black men, and as it were, were spoiled for choice - and once people begin to move up the social ladder they reject those who are below them socially. And so, whereas fifty years ago I would have been married already, today I am third-rate compared to the very manly young men who catch the eyes of those blonde babes.
One time last summer a black woman was walking along the pavement opposite me, smiled at the two little children approaching her, and returned my stare from across the road. I never saw her again. I looked, I saw, I wanted, but I did not get. But G_d usually torments me by displaying many attractive white women all over the place, none of whom I can ever talk to or get along with.
Now therefore, my final word: black men should not consider themselves inferior in any sense. In my country they are hard workers, sociable, are more likely to have a degree than white men, and are adored by white women. Please spare a thought for thinking people who are trapped into a white skin. It is like having a hideous disease.
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The African prerogative is the realm of dance and seduction. I blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by even coming near to a blonde beauty. But the love of blonde and black is foreordained, and a mighty splendour to the Holy One (blessed be). The gorgeous blonde shall never lay a finger upon me, I shall never ride a bus alone, and the black man will inherit all these things.
Last summer a black man in my city bared his entire torso waiting for a bus. When he got on the bus he seduced around seven beautiful young white women. He was listening to hip hop on his MP3 player. Their music and their beautiful bodies are their secret weapons. We white guys cannot compete. And thus, we retreat into ourselves and become autistic. We are genetic refuse. G-d deliver us from this pain.
I don't know Fruit how come most of the black men I see here in America look like something that escaped from a cage. And I don't quite get that rap and hip hop music either' It sounds like animals growling while someone is banging on a drum. I always get the image of African natives with spear in hand when I hear it. The Blond females in the UK must have very bad taste to be taken in by that.
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The African prerogative is the realm of dance and seduction. I blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by even coming near to a blonde beauty. But the love of blonde and black is foreordained, and a mighty splendour to the Holy One (blessed be). The gorgeous blonde shall never lay a finger upon me, I shall never ride a bus alone, and the black man will inherit all these things.
Last summer a black man in my city bared his entire torso waiting for a bus. When he got on the bus he seduced around seven beautiful young white women. He was listening to hip hop on his MP3 player. Their music and their beautiful bodies are their secret weapons. We white guys cannot compete. And thus, we retreat into ourselves and become autistic. We are genetic refuse. G-d deliver us from this pain.
I don't know Fruit how come most of the black men I see here in America look like something that escaped from a cage. And I don't quite get that rap and hip hop music either' It sounds like animals growling while someone is banging on a drum. I always get the image of African natives with spear in hand when I hear it. The Blond females in the UK must have very bad taste to be taken in by that.
The operative words here are "most of the black men I see". You can't put that label on all of the black men in America. Did you look at any of the videos I posted? Why don't you comment on what you see there. And what have you to say about white men who don't prefer to dress distinguished? Some are grunge (which is pop culture genre), some are punk, and some dress in flannel. Do you judge them also?
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Most rap songs are simply noise.
I agree but rap and hip hop aren't really the same.
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I don't know Fruit how come most of the black men I see here in America look like something that escaped from a cage. And I don't quite get that rap and hip hop music either' It sounds like animals growling while someone is banging on a drum. I always get the image of African natives with spear in hand when I hear it. The Blond females in the UK must have very bad taste to be taken in by that.
The African-American is a hybrid. The pure black men from Africa we have here are stunning. They shine in the sun, their heads are almost always bald. Even when they are simply near white women it smells of complete sex. White women in the same place as black men is a sexual assault on white men. But attractive blondes smiling and prowling around while equally smiling black men are nearby? Dynamite my friend.
Sometimes young white women smile at me, as if to claim innocence. But I know that behind my back they are chatting to those black guys.
I cannot talk to anyone in real life about this.
It's been killing me for years.
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The African prerogative is the realm of dance and seduction. I blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by even coming near to a blonde beauty. But the love of blonde and black is foreordained, and a mighty splendour to the Holy One (blessed be). The gorgeous blonde shall never lay a finger upon me, I shall never ride a bus alone, and the black man will inherit all these things.
Last summer a black man in my city bared his entire torso waiting for a bus. When he got on the bus he seduced around seven beautiful young white women. He was listening to hip hop on his MP3 player. Their music and their beautiful bodies are their secret weapons. We white guys cannot compete. And thus, we retreat into ourselves and become autistic. We are genetic refuse. G-d deliver us from this pain.
I don't know Fruit how come most of the black men I see here in America look like something that escaped from a cage. And I don't quite get that rap and hip hop music either' It sounds like animals growling while someone is banging on a drum. I always get the image of African natives with spear in hand when I hear it. The Blond females in the UK must have very bad taste to be taken in by that.
The operative words here are "most of the black men I see". You can't put that label on all of the black men in America. Did you look at any of the videos I posted? Why don't you comment on what you see there. And what have you to say about white men who don't prefer to dress distinguished? Some are grunge (which is pop culture genre), some are punk, and some dress in flannel. Do you judge them also?
I live in New York I see a great many black folks. Yes some black folks are very distinguished in appearance and manorism. Thats great! However the vast majority are not what I would care to spend my time with. A pig is a pig white or black. My problem is not because the person is black its the behavior of the individual that I have a problem with.
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I don't know Fruit how come most of the black men I see here in America look like something that escaped from a cage. And I don't quite get that rap and hip hop music either' It sounds like animals growling while someone is banging on a drum. I always get the image of African natives with spear in hand when I hear it. The Blond females in the UK must have very bad taste to be taken in by that.
The African-American is a hybrid. The pure black men from Africa we have here are stunning. They shine in the sun, their heads are almost always bald. Even when they are simply near white women it smells of complete sex. White women in the same place as black men is a sexual assault on white men. But attractive blondes smiling and prowling around while equally smiling black men are nearby? Dynamite my friend.
Sometimes young white women smile at me, as if to claim innocence. But I know that behind my back they are chatting to those black guys.
I cannot talk to anyone in real life about this.
It's been killing me for years.
A hybrid is that what you call them over there in the UK? I have heard them called a lot of things here in America but never that.
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Positive or not, I grew out of rap music, and as a matter of fact, that entire hip-hop subculture not very long ago, and I am not going to begin looking back.
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Nobody opposes your choice, but I do not at all oppose the rap artists that are spreading a praiseworthy and legitimate message to American youth. What about Christian rappers?
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Imerica,
Fruit is a very silly and mixed-up kid who has a strange obsession with black men and white women. He is not representative of most JTF members and he is not a deliberately hateful person.
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I guess I'd differ with him, then. I don't believe a style can be evil any more than I believe a car or animal or tool could be. It's all in how it is used. There are some Kahanist Jewish rappers out there--if the hip-hop medium helps to get our message out there, more power to them.
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There is a Jewish group called Ta-Shma I just discovered, and they use a lot of hip hop rhythms, along with traditional Jewish melodies and instruments. It sounds pretty good, even though most rap related music is crap. They sing, "Torah is truth, and truth is Torah." So there is no question where their inspiration comes from.
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Chaim says people shouldn't sing rap even if the message is positive. He says that people should come up with creative music and not copy off of black rap noise.
Look, I'm not here to put a stop to anyone's creativity where music is concerned so why should Chaim, someone who abhors rap music, and the black culture.
Hip hop and rap are one in the same because without one, there wouldn't be the other. "Rap" as it were, is the lyric.. "Hip Hop" is the music accompaniment that gives movement to the lyrics. Hip hop has always been a part of African American culture. Before there was NWA ([censored] with Attitude) *that group ended in the early 90's. * there was the Sugar Hill Gang. Before them, there was James Brown. Before him there was the Blues. Before Blues there was slave song. All of this music was done to a specific rhythm. It awakened people positively at first, then negative, and then slowly back to positive again.
Chaim and some of you here, have only heard the bad parts of rap/ hip hop. You don't like gangsta rap, purchase a Will Smith cd. No curse words, no woman bashing and no "[censored]" calling.
I was a teenager when gangsta rap came into view and messed up the minds of many people who listened to it and copied every action the lyrics mentioned. That's why I'm so addicted to the way rap/hip hop use to be, and the way its ever changing back to its old self.