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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ReaganLiberal on April 24, 2007, 10:19:14 PM
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I posted this on a different forum, but I wanted to know what you thought of him.
I am Jewish, and I read parts of Dr. Kevin MacDonald of California State University of Long Beach's book The Culture of Critique. He also writes for www.vdare.com, a great website. Do you think what he says about Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy is correct?
Notice, I think Judaism is my religion and life's belief. But what he wrote about Jews' general leftist, liberal anti-white and anti-Christian animus was very painful, more than the typical David Duke or National Vanguard anti-Semite, because it seemed so true.
On the other hand, Jews are not the only cause of the decline of western civilization that we will experience in several decades.
Be sure to examine him based on his scholarship, not his opinions.
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I posted this on a different forum, but I wanted to know what you thought of him.
I am Jewish, and I read parts of Dr. Kevin MacDonald of California State University of Long Beach's book The Culture of Critique. He also writes for www.vdare.com, a great website. Do you think what he says about Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy is correct?
Notice, I think Judaism is my religion and life's belief. But what he wrote about Jews' general leftist, liberal anti-white and anti-Christian animus was very painful, more than the typical David Duke or National Vanguard anti-Semite, because it seemed so true.
On the other hand, Jews are not the only cause of the decline of western civilization that we will experience in several decades.
Be sure to examine him based on his scholarship, not his opinions.
The next time you post Nazi propaganda, you will be banned.
I don't know if you're Jewish. If you are, you are a very sick, self-hating Jew.
The Nazi Kevin MacDonald blames the Jews and Judaism for mass immigration into the U.S. Which is a damn lie. Immigration into the U.S. was initiated by the Kennedy immigration act of 1965, which was passed overwhelmingly by both houses of Congress. Only 2 of the 100 U.S. Senators were Jewish (Javits and Ribicoff). And there were no more than a handful of Jewish House members at the time.
TO BLAME THE JEWS FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS PASSED BY A CONGRESS THAT WAS 98% GENTILE IS THE MOST ABSURD NAZI LIE THAT ANYONE CAN MANUFACTURE. IT IS THE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATE WASP BILLIONAIRES WHO PUSHED CONGRESS AND THE GENTILE JOHNSON ADMINISTRATION TO PASS THE LAW OPENING AMERICA'S BORDERS. THERE WERE NO JEWISH MULTINATIONAL BILLIONAIRES AT THE TIME.
You already have posted in favor of the Nazi Ron Paul who blames the Jews for all of America's problems. You obviously have an agenda of trying to convince people that the Jews are to blame for all of the self-destructive policies which THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHITE AMERICANS HAVE REPEATEDLY SUPPORTED BY VOTING FOR TRAITOR POLITICIANS WHO IMPLEMENT SUCH POLICIES, AND BY EMPOWERING MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS AND NEWS MEDIA WHO HAVE PROMOTED SUCH POLICIES. TO BLAME THIS MASS SUICIDAL INSANITY OF WHITES ON AMERICA'S TINY JEWISH MINORITY IS THE ULTIMATE EXAMPLE OF SATANIC NAZI SCAPEGOATING.
To repeat, the next time I see this garbage, you're banned.
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Yacov and others, this guy is a member of StørmFrønt, or Revava, or both.
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The average so-called Christian is just as liberal as the average Jew... if you count Euronazis as "Christian", then they're a lot worse than even left-wing Jews.
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Re: "...Judge him on his logical presentation of facts, though, not on his opinions..."
That Nazi bastard doesn't present facts; every thing he writes and speaks are unfounded personal opinions.
Apparently there are some Kevin MacDonald fans here, who are incapable of discerning the difference between fact and opinion.
If we are to judge this fraud of a college professor only on his "logical presentation of facts", then we will have to incarcerate him in a state mental asylum.
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Dumbest post I've seen in days. Congrats.
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I just saw a poll a large % europeans are atheists the largest none atheist population is in the U.K. 40% of people in the U.K. beleive in G-D that tells how bad off Europe is
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I just saw a poll a large % europeans are atheists the largest noe atheist population is in the U.K. 40% of people in the U.K. beleive in G-D that tells how bad off Europe is
British people don't worship G-d they worship the [censored]. The white male bouncers are always very polite with the black men that want to come in. It's because they know that the white girls prefer them. All the white girls ever do is sleep with black men so the white guys figure, 'Gosh, these black gentlemen are worthy of respect.' ANd so everyone worships these blacks. Every young white person worships blacks and wants to closely inspect the contents of the black man's underpants.
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I worked at the door of a club where men came to see women dance naked[THAT WAS BEFORE I BECAME MORE RELIGIOUS,AND GOT A BETTER JOB] WELL OUR JOB WAS TO ASK PEOPLE BLACK OR WHITE TO LEAVE IF THEY CAUSED TROUBLE OR BECAME TO ROWDY.IF they did'nt leave peacefully we escorted them out
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I worked at the door of a club where men came to see women dance naked[THAT WAS BEFORE I BECAME MORE RELIGIOUS,AND GOT A BETTER JOB] WELL OUR JOB WAS TO ASK PEOPLE BLACK OR WHITE TO LEAVE IF THEY CAUSED TROUBLE OR BECAME TO ROWDY.IF they did'nt leave peacefully we escorted them out
The women preferred black men. ALl of them do. Black men never go to watch black women dance. They are always after white women. The white women let them. It means white guys are crowded out and can't meet women. All the good white women want black men. ALl the jobs are taken too so I can't even work. White women are highly racist.
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In the nightclubs I went to the white men were always very drunk but the black men kept self-control because they were on a mission - to seduce the girls. ANd black bouncers are usually bigger and stronger. ANd the white girls are safe when black bouncers are around. It just means that the white man has to make an ape of himself to enjoy life. The black men and white women stand watching and smiling knowing that the end thereof is nigh. White women plot only evil against us continually.
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The dancers at the club i worked at were White,Black,Hispanic,and Asian .The only thing they cared about were which men gave them tips.BTW it really did'nt matter how big the tips they got were .The guys who gave them big tips were suckers
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The dancers at the club i worked at were White,Black,Hispanic,and Asian .The only thing they cared about were which men gave them tips.BTW it really did'nt matter how big the tips they got were .The guys who gave them big tips were suckers
In the UK, with the possible exception of London (which still has a high majority), 99% of the dancers and prostitutes and whores are white women. I sometimes visit women of the night looking for a big [censored] to wrap her liips around me. But I always make do with the overweight blondes isntead. Only unattractive throw-away fat low self-esteem white women go for me. Does that sound familiar?
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Most of the dancers of all races where i worked were very attractive.They were'nt Prostitutes they were college students or young mothers who husbands left without paying sufficent alimony for them to support their child
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Most of the dancers of all races where i worked were very attractive.They were'nt Prostitutes they were college students or young mothers who husbands left without paying sufficent alimony for them to support their child
Women live at all costs. Men are not supposed to do that. If men are unsuccessful they should wage war and die like warriors. All of the white women are racist against me and will only perform for the blacks.
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I don't want to "evaluate" the writing of this psycho. Screw him.
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How did you change the title of the thread?
I am not anti-Semitic. I am Jewish. I am not a Nazi, Heavens Forbid. I had relatives gassed during the Holocaust.
I stand by my opinion that a scholar should be judged by his scholarship.
By the way, there is a debate between a Jewish writer for www.Jewcy.com and John Derbyshire, a writer for National Review who reviewed The Culture of Critique in The American Conservative (www.amconmag.com). The Jewish writer says there is truth to MacDonald's ideas; Derbyshire says there is a lot of falsehood also.
By the way, MacDonald's website is www.csulb.edu/~kmacd.
I know that posters on this site are against multiculturalism and for preserving the white Christian majorities where it exists. It's undoubtable that Jews played a disproportionate role in bringing about this situation, but they are not the sole cause, and they can reform themselves. Nor is Judaism monolithic.
Lawrence Auster (www.amnation.com/vfr) and Stephen Steinlight have written about the Jewish role in liberal immigration policies, and they're both Jewish, I think Jews like us need criticism and can use reading well reasoned arguments by non-Jews on the Jewish role in destroying traditional western societies.
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interesting article on old Mac Donald he teaches at a 4th rate college http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/04/26/macdonald
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I'm glad the majority of voters here have named that nazi pig for what he is. May his name and memory be obliderated.
He is a liar, he is a nazi, and he is a poor academic. Hail Eugene Girin for refuting him, and hail Ian Jobling for refuting him.
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Jews tend to be liberal and vote Democrat, however, their geographical location (often NorthEast) and high iq's (meaning being brainwashed in liberal education facilities) explain it. Persecution explains it. "Evolutionary biology" does not explain it.
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I've read all his recent books. It's anti-Semitism with a veneer of scholarship. He has some interesting theories and ideas to be sure, most of which are greatly exaggerated and backed up with little evidence. His book is like a Bible among anti-Semites. There's no doubt that he's an anti-Semite himself. His claims of the "Jewish evolutionary strategy" is a very interesting theory and there could be an element of truth to it. One of the more noticeable things for me was his clear and obvious sense of jealousy of the Jewish people. He seems to be very jealous of our supposed ability to have common evolutionary strategies and means of survival that he wishes he and his white Nazis would have. He is very distraught at the lack of racial, cultural, and spiritual unity among whites and he seems to be very jealous that Jews have been able to maintain their unity over the thousands of years, despite all odds. I think behind many of these anti-Semites is a feeling of inferiority and jealousy of Jews and McDonald is a good example of that.
I would recommend reading his book, there are some interesting theories in there that have grains of truth in them but of course are taken out of proportion and are used to further his Nazi anti-Semitic beliefs.
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I agree. People feel they need to prove themselves by cutting down Jews.
I should post the debates on vdare between Eugene Girin (a Romanian Jew) and Kevin MacDonald. MacDonald tries to blame Jewish "evolutionary biology" for Communism. How about blaming the filthy pig Tzar of Germanic decent who wasn't even a Russian? The Tzar was anti-Russian and anti-Jewish.
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http://www.vdare.com/girin/060408_executioners.htm
http://inverted-world.com/index.php/column/column/did_the_jews_do_it/
Some of the points in both of these articles I agree with, others I do not. But both at least make the case that MacDonald is not a solid academic on the issue.
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Excellent Response here in the first comment on a blog article about MacDonald.
http://www.jewcy.com/dialogue/02-26/is_kevin_macdonald_right_about_the_jews
culture of ddeck
as an atheist jew, there are few things i enjoy more than a piece of well reasoned anti-semitism (heidegger, burckhardt, schmitt). only the jew who knows how superior is his thinking knows how fit he is to be despised; only the jew would be willing to honestly appraise the validity of such an argument against his existence. but you can't just hate a jew anymore: it's got to be systematic, abstracted into a theory. which is the greatest proof of how completely and systematically jewish consciousness has remade the world. the real meaning of macdonald's work is nostalgia not for the world in which jews had less power -- but the world in which, because of this, you could be free to hate them.
unfortunately, despite my enthusiasm, CofC is a giant POS. macdonald wants to blame the jews for liberalism -- if not modernity per se -- but this is tough, because not only were hegel, robespierre, napoleon, and alexander the great not jews, but america has no prior tradition which to react to and repudiate liberalism. here, a "conservative" is always only an earlier liberal opposing a newer one, or simply an obscurantist moron.
so all macdonald is left with is bottomless evidence that jews are simply the most successful liberals, which is to say, the best users of liberalism. we have the power. which is another way of saying, the best americans. that doesn't work either. so the pseudo-synthetic notion of "group evolutionary strategy," antithetical to liberalism, is introduced, to demonstrate that jews are actually liberals-in-disguise. liberalism has been co-opted, the same way countless other social systems have been, to serve primordial (tribal) jewish needs.
so, the jews are at once guilty of liberalism as well as its undermining. sounds like something a stupid jew would do, after all.
joel katz
I agree with all of that.
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I just saw a poll a large % europeans are atheists the largest none atheist population is in the U.K. 40% of people in the U.K. beleive in G-D that tells how bad off Europe is
Mord WTH !? Please post the link to the poll; I live in Europe too; and in my country 95% are beliving in G-d.
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I never heard of this guy. Based on a lot of responses on here, he sounds a lot like Frank Weltner.
But what do you mean by, "Jews are not the only cause of the decline of western civilization that we will experience in several decades"? Jews are a big cause for the "progression" of western civililzation, not the decline.
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Jews may have been liberal, but they've advanced America technologically. We beat Japan with the Adam Bomb. We can thank Einstein for that.