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Title: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on August 04, 2010, 08:52:23 PM: בס''ד

This video explains why there has to be a G-d. Hopefully, we will get it subtitled in the future, but in the meantime this is a vital message for Israeli Jewish youth.

I uploaded this video three times using different titles and tags.

Please rate, favorite and comment on all three videos. It will only take a few minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlnsKba3cQg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2DquNelLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNzpAAO6RcI
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Christian Zionist on August 04, 2010, 09:22:42 PM: Behind every design there is a designer!
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on August 04, 2010, 09:50:27 PM: Quote from: Christian Zionist on August 04, 2010, 09:22:42 PM
Behind every design there is a designer!

בס''ד

That is precisely the message of this video!
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on August 04, 2010, 10:26:58 PM: (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/files/2010/08/MichaelEdwards.jpg)

Christian Zionist: "Behind every design there is a designer! "
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on August 04, 2010, 11:25:00 PM: is anyone going to translate that video i really want to watch it !!!!
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 04, 2010, 11:32:31 PM: Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on August 04, 2010, 10:26:58 PM
(http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/files/2010/08/MichaelEdwards.jpg)

Christian Zionist: "Behind every design there is a designer! "

That particular design has freewill, just as the entire species of man was given it. He chooses to degrade himself beneath the dignity of man, but why does that mean he had no creator?!
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on August 05, 2010, 07:57:59 AM: (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/files/2010/08/MichaelEdwards.jpg)

Kahane-was-right-BT: "That particular design has freewill, just as the entire species of man was given it. He chooses to degrade himself beneath the dignity of man, but why does that mean he had no creator?!"

JTF being a Civil Rights Organization believing all humanity to be endowed with free will by our Creator, we sent an official JTF reporter to the cell of "the man suspect" and this is what we asked:

"How is it that you, Michael Edwards, choose to denigrate not only yourself, but also our Creator who designed us and gave us the gift of free will?"

The alleged attacker rolled his eyes, seemingly lost in thought on how best to answer the question.

He started stabbing his lunch of pickled egg and pigs feet sandwich with a long dirt-encrusted fingernail of his left hand pinky finger, scooping out pink and yellow matter which dropped all over the pants of his orange jail issue jumpsuit.

Then, he reached his left arm all the way around the back of his head, and wiped off the mayonnaise behind one of his ears.

I heard him mutter something which sounded like "Yumsave for later!"

Suddenly, his mood seemed to brighten, his face lit up with a broad smirking grin, and "the man suspect" started screeching in a sound which could only be likened to the cacophony one hears when visiting the Monkey House at the Washington, D.C. Zoo:

"Mee no got' uh Cree-atuh!" --

"Mee got's uh' SPRAY-ATUH!" ...

"Mee no got' uh Cree-atuh!" --

"Mee got's uh' SPRAY-ATUH!" ...

"Mee no got' uh Cree-atuh!" --

"Mee got's uh' SPRAY-ATUH!" ...
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Angry Panther on August 05, 2010, 10:17:21 PM: Commented and favorite, rated on all three videos. Thank you Chaim. Can't wait for the subtitled version.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on August 08, 2010, 11:00:30 AM: Quote from: Chaim Ben Pesach on August 04, 2010, 08:52:23 PM
בס''ד

This video explains why there has to be a G-d. Hopefully, we will get it subtitled in the future, but in the meantime this is a vital message for Israeli Jewish youth.

I uploaded this video three times using different titles and tags.

Please rate, favorite and comment on all three videos. It will only take a few minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlnsKba3cQg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2DquNelLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNzpAAO6RcI

I am not too busy at the moment, I can do the subtitles for this video within one or two days (by wednesday at the latest, depending on my workload tomorrow).
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Debbie Shafer on August 09, 2010, 02:03:37 PM: I would love to see this video Chaim, but need it translated in English. Thanks.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on August 09, 2010, 02:12:19 PM: Here is a link to the video with English subtitles :

http://www.overstream.net/view.php?oid=n6ewe8aiujrz

You can also find there two other recent videos with subtitles if you are interested.

By the way, I have started the subtitles for the video "Why does the Israeli media try to hide Hayamin Haamiti ?", they should be ready by wednesday.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 09, 2010, 04:57:06 PM: Quote from: yaakov mendel on August 09, 2010, 02:12:19 PM

Here is a link to the video with English subtitles :

http://www.overstream.net/view.php?oid=n6ewe8aiujrz

You can also find there two other recent videos with subtitles if you are interested.

By the way, I have started the subtitles for the video "Why does the Israeli media try to hide Hayamin Haamiti ?", they should be ready by wednesday.

Awesome! Great work, yaakov mendel.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB on August 11, 2010, 12:16:07 AM: thank you yaakov mendel i wanted to watch it long ago and now finally got a chance thanks to your translations
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on August 14, 2010, 09:53:33 PM: didn't chaim have curly hair once?
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Rubystars on August 14, 2010, 11:23:23 PM: I think this is the same argument that Paley used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmaker_analogy
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 14, 2010, 11:29:49 PM: Quote from: Rubystars on August 14, 2010, 11:23:23 PM
I think this is the same argument that Paley used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmaker_analogy

It - argument from complexity/design - was also the argument that the author of Hovoth Halevavoth (Duties of the Heart), Rabbi Bahya Ibn Pequda used, which he wrote around 1040, so unfortunately for Paley, he cannot take credit for originating this idea
:)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chovot_ha-Levavot

The argument, as Chaim also formulates it, is still profound and impressive to this day.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Rubystars on August 15, 2010, 01:07:58 PM: Thanks for the extra information Kahane was Right BT. It's good for strengthening the faith of people who already believe, but I'm not sure how much it does for people who are skeptical of God. Many atheists have addressed this argument and why they don't agree with it.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 15, 2010, 02:22:32 PM: Quote from: Rubystars on August 15, 2010, 01:07:58 PM
Thanks for the extra information Kahane was Right BT. It's good for strengthening the faith of people who already believe, but I'm not sure how much it does for people who are skeptical of G-d. Many atheists have addressed this argument and why they don't agree with it.

In truth, I don't think it's a "proof" in the modern sense of the word proof (ie it's not absolute proof or irrefutable as an argument, like a demonstrative proof in biology or a mathematical equation). In other words, not "empirical." I think there can't really be proof of G-d in that sense (and certainly also cannot be disproof). However, it could perhaps be called a compelling argument or an indication of possibility, even if it's not an absolute proof per se. Because anyone can always reply and argue with skepticism such as 'well, it's just coincidence.' Or randomly natural selection did it. Or it's unlikely but the unlikely accident happened. Or there are zillions of zillions of universes out there (this is also not an empirical statement), etc.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Rubystars on August 16, 2010, 03:02:58 AM: Kahane Was Right, I wish there really was an empirical argument we could use. I've searched in vain for anything like that. The bottom line is that in the end it all comes down to a matter of faith at some point, and that's the part that nonbelievers in God can't understand or refuse to take part in. They find it illogical. I wish I had a good argument for that, but I really don't.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on August 16, 2010, 03:41:15 AM: Quote from: Rubystars on August 16, 2010, 03:02:58 AM
Kahane Was Right, I wish there really was an empirical argument we could use. I've searched in vain for anything like that. The bottom line is that in the end it all comes down to a matter of faith at some point, and that's the part that nonbelievers in G-d can't understand or refuse to take part in. They find it illogical. I wish I had a good argument for that, but I really don't.

Very true. There cannot be a scientific proof of the existence of G-d.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Meerkat on August 19, 2010, 01:58:34 AM: so... whats everyones stance on evolution?
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 19, 2010, 10:10:55 AM: Quote from: KahanistLiberal on August 19, 2010, 01:58:34 AM
so... whats everyones stance on evolution?

It happened. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Rubystars on August 19, 2010, 01:00:53 PM: Quote from: KahanistLiberal on August 19, 2010, 01:58:34 AM
so... whats everyones stance on evolution?

Some people aren't open to the idea because they feel like it excludes God somehow, but I believe that God worked through natural processes such as evolution to create.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Meerkat on August 19, 2010, 09:15:57 PM: i was just curious about how many people on this forum believe in it. apparently evolution is more popular than i thought.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 19, 2010, 11:22:23 PM: Quote from: KahanistLiberal on August 19, 2010, 09:15:57 PM
i was just curious about how many people on this forum believe in it. apparently evolution is more popular than i thought.

Well only 2 people responded to you, so what were you thinking, it had 0 popularity here? Or 1 person on the forum agreed with it and no one else? And now you're surprised to find a popularity of 2?

I'm skeptical of what you say.

In any case, do a search for evolution and you'll see that there are other threads where this topic has been discussed before. There are people here for it and people here who deny it.
Title: Re: "Proof that G-d exists" - our latest video
Post by: Aussie_Kahanist on August 23, 2010, 08:23:48 AM: Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 19, 2010, 11:22:23 PM
In any case, do a search for evolution and you'll see that there are other threads where this topic has been discussed before. There are people here for it and people here who deny it.

As long as they don't deny the supremacy of HASHEM I don't care either way