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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Dan on September 01, 2010, 12:06:39 PM
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Did anyone see this? Unfortunately it was in Italian with sound crossed over from another channel. I wish noam federman was interviewed or even chaim.
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Yimach schmo to that Nazi.
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If I were you I would curse CNN first. Really curse them.
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Yimach schmo to that Nazi.
I really don't think you should be saying that no matter how much you don't like him or whatever weasel thing he did.
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Did you know that he said that Chaim is the Jewish Hitler, over and over again?
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Did you know that he said that Chaim is the Jewish Hitler, over and over again?
I don't know about his history with Chaim, but, frankly, I wish there were more "Nazis" like him !
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i heard he's a very influential guy in the samaria region..apparently he's the guy you would talk to if interested in building on land in yesha region.
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I don't know about his history with Chaim, but, frankly, I wish there were more "Nazis" like him !
What has this joker done? He promised to bring 10,000 protestors to the Gaza ethnic cleansing in 2005 and about ten actually showed up.
He's not just a disgrace to the Israeli right, he's a disgrace to Judaism.
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Did you know that he said that Chaim is the Jewish Hitler, over and over again?
Where and When was this?
I know he and Chaim disagree over tactics, but ideologically are they not on the same page?
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Did you know that he said that Chaim is the Jewish Hitler, over and over again?
wtf?
Still, I let God do the punishing - the cursing isn't accomplishing anything positive in this case, I don't think.
If it's true what you say, it's just another example of how ego and being hungry for power gets in the way of good Jews working together for the right goals.
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For years and years that is what his small group of supporters said on the Revava forum--he was even more openly hateful than that other turd, Dyke Guzofsky.
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I don't know about his history with Chaim, but, frankly, I wish there were more "Nazis" like him !
What has this joker done? He promised to bring 10,000 protestors to the Gaza ethnic cleansing in 2005 and about ten actually showed up.
He's not just a disgrace to the Israeli right, he's a disgrace to Judaism.
I won't go into detail here, you can check by yourself, he is a guy who has done many positive things as an activist for the settlers' movement, who was a close to Binyamin Ze'ev Kahane, HaShem Yinkom Damo, who raises eight children in Yosh providing them with Jewish education, who served in the IDF (that is very important to me, I guess you may disagree with me on this).
I mean, come on, this man is obviously not beyond criticism, no one is, but to call him a "Nazi", a "disgrace to Judaism" ?? You cannot blame him alone for the failure of the resistance to the expulsion of Jews in Gaza. He is not responsible either for things that are said by some morons on the Revava forum who claim to be his supporters. Steven Weigang claimed to be Chaim's best supporter and you won't blame Chaim for all this moron's BS. If David Haivri did not speak up against insults against Chaim, though, I agree that he would be to blame.
But if David Haivri has done things that are so evil as to deserve to be called a "Nazi" or a "disgrace to Judaism", I'd like to know. I am not his fan, I am just trying to be fair.
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I just told you what he did, he and his small group on the Revava forum constantly called Chaim a Nazi, the "Jewish Hitler", etc.
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do you guys have the link. I missed it
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Didn't Ben-Gurion [YS"V] and Mapai call Ze'ev Jabotinsky [ZT"L], "the Jewish Hitler"? While Chaim is a righteous anti-Hitler to the maximal degree, still; drawing the same insult that was directed at Jabotinsky could be seen as a compliment in the right light [the mutual insults men dedicated with Ahavat Yisroel are subject to, perhaps]. Mapai were the ones who wanted to join forces with the Nazis... if history repeats itself, how does this speak of HaIvri? Hmmmm...
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Didn't Ben-Gurion [YS"V] and Mapai call Ze'ev Jabotinsky [ZT"L], "the Jewish Hitler"? While Chaim is a righteous anti-Hitler to the maximal degree, still; drawing the same insult that was directed at Jabotinsky could be seen as a compliment in the right light [the mutual insults men dedicated with Ahavat Yisroel are subject to, perhaps]. Mapai were the ones who wanted to join forces with the Nazis... if history repeats itself, how does this speak of HaIvri? Hmmmm...
What a pathetic, disgusting insult on the part of David Ben Gurion the traitor, David Ben Gurion the scum, who murdered the great fighters of the Altalena...
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Didn't Ben-Gurion [YS"V] and Mapai call Ze'ev Jabotinsky [ZT"L], "the Jewish Hitler"? While Chaim is a righteous anti-Hitler to the maximal degree, still; drawing the same insult that was directed at Jabotinsky could be seen as a compliment in the right light [the mutual insults men dedicated with Ahavat Yisroel are subject to, perhaps]. Mapai were the ones who wanted to join forces with the Nazis... if history repeats itself, how does this speak of HaIvri? Hmmmm...
What a pathetic, disgusting insult on the part of David Ben Gurion the traitor, David Ben Gurion the scum, who murdered the great fighters of the Altalena...
I believe the exact term that Ben Gurion used was: "Vladimir Hitler" and I think it was in the 30s before the holocaust. Yet it is indeed disgusting and wicked.
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I read the article where he was quoted in A7 - and I liked what he had to say. I think he makes a good point but he neglects to comprehend that people who think like him are not in power in Israel, and so while his points may be true, he is singling out Obama and foreign pressure as the problem but Bibi Netanyahu and the regime do not believe they are a problem. There is a certain disconnect between HaIvri's thinking and what is actually the "Israeli" point of view. I'm going to post a link to the article as a new thread. but here is also the URL http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139464
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Why are you concerned about those men and their roles in history?
Didn't Israel just suddenly spring up one day because the UN voted to invent it?
And if these terrible events occurred as you say, then doesn't this mean that Israel is the product of evil men and evil actions and shouldn't exist?
After all, a Jewish State couldn't be the result of Jewish gangs murdering each other, and bad guys suppressing all the good guys, and I don't need to read anything to know all this, because only evil people oppose the State of Israel and side with the Fakestinians.
All you guys are doing here is supplying the enemies of the Jews with ammunition.
For that reason alone I'm certain that none of what you write is true.
And don't any of you refer me to any books or articles or documents in your answers, because I would never read anything that said bad stuff about Jews!
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Why are you concerned about those men and their roles in history?
Didn't Israel just suddenly spring up one day because the UN voted to invent it?
And if these terrible events occurred as you say, then doesn't this mean that Israel is the product of evil men and evil actions and shouldn't exist?
After all, a Jewish State couldn't be the result of Jewish gangs murdering each other, and bad guys suppressing all the good guys, and I don't need to read anything to know all this, because only evil people oppose the State of Israel and side with the Fakestinians.
All you guys are doing here is supplying the enemies of the Jews with ammunition.
For that reason alone I'm certain that none of what you write is true.
And don't any of you refer me to any books or articles or documents in your answers, because I would never read anything that said bad stuff about Jews!
Was this necessary?
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Was this necessary?
Was this?
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Was this necessary?
Was this?
No, what I asked was not necessary. You should keep going on incoherent rants against the boogeyman JTF forum participants unabated. It's very constructive. Ignore what I suggested.
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Ignore what I suggested.
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For years, David HaIvri's hideous forum made the most vicious and slanderous attacks on JTF in general and on me in particular. They referred to me as a Nazi, a racist, a terrorist, and even compared me to Hitler. I never said a bad word about HaIvri or his pathetic pseudo-organization. In fact, I did not even know they existed until someone showed me their vile hatemongering that had been going on for years.
David HaIvri never accomplished one thing for the Jewish people. On the contrary, he has only damaged the Jewish cause. Before the Gush Katif expulsion, HaIvri promised the news media that he would bring 10,000 people to the Temple Mount to pray. The media gave his promise massive attention because they knew he was bluffing. On the day of the "massive prayer" gathering, only 10 people showed up, not 10,000. The media used this for days to show how the opponents of the expulsion are all talk, are all one big bluff, are all one big joke. HaIvri badly hurt the morale of the religious nationalist camp with his stupid and amateurish bluff.
Aside from this disastrous incident, HaIvri has never done anything else that got major attention. He poses as a Kahanist when he wants to raise money from Kahanists. But in reality, HaIvri works with the traitor Yesha Council who betrayed the struggle to save Gush Katif. HaIvri is a liar and a fraud.
I notice that there are members here who say, "Even if HaIvri's forum called Chaim a Nazi and compared him to Hitler, that doesn't mean that HaIvri is bad". Really? I wonder how these members would react if someone spent years publicly slandering them.
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I thought Chaim discussed the HaIvri-matter multiple times already this year.
Unfortunately, his fat, arrogant face keeps turning up on fecesbook as 'someone I might know'.
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Does someone being bad or having done evil automatically qualify them to be cursed though?
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Unfortunately, people are slow to come to the realization that JTF is the only hope for the Jewish people. I become convinced of this more and more each day. I think I was happier when I was ignorant. People blame us for everything even when most of us have done nothing
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Does someone being bad or having done evil automatically qualify them to be cursed though?
Let me actually modify this. It may be obvious that you Chaim ben Pesach are in a position to curse him given what he did to you and says about you. That I would understand, even if I don't really know whether it's permitted or not (maybe it is). But other people are cursing him. What's the halacha there for you and for other people? Personally, I find the cursing of people like this over the top and/or unnecessary unless it's someone like an arafat y''s.
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Let me actually modify this. It may be obvious that you Chaim ben Pesach are in a position to curse him given what he did to you and says about you. That I would understand, even if I don't really know whether it's permitted or not (maybe it is). But other people are cursing him. What's the halacha there for you and for other people? Personally, I find the cursing of people like this over the top and/or unnecessary unless it's someone like an arafat y''s.
How is Haivri different from Arafat? Arafat murdered Jews physically. Haivri murders Jews by deception--by trying to poison then against the one movement that can save Israel and by fooling them into thinking that obeying the Yesha Council will protect them.
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Yimach schmo to that Nazi.
Dr Brennen Fan you have no right to curse a Jew like that. Firstly you've never meet the man I have. Secondly as much as an establishment figure he may be he lives in a small Settlement called Kfar Tapuach where Binyamin Ze'ev Kahane (Zecker Tzadik L'Kodosh Livrach) lived he has 9 kids and does much work in bringing Jews to the Kever Yosef (The Tomb of Joseph) and other places that are no longer in Jewish hands. He brings scores of people to the Shemron I believe that he does much good. Now you and Chaim may disagree but I know these to be truths. and Until I see him do something bad for the Jewish people I am going to support him.
Now I will say this one more time stop using this phrase do you even know A) What the phrase means??? B) Where and when and who it can be used on?? I would bet the answer is no.
I would advise you to consult an Orthodox Rabbi about the phrase.
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Dr Brennen Fan you have no right to curse a Jew like that. Firstly you've never meet the man I have. Secondly as much as an establishment figure he may be he lives in a small Settlement called Kfar Tapuach where Binyamin Ze'ev Kahane (Zecker Tzadik L'Kodosh Livrach) lived he has 9 kids and does much work in bringing Jews to the Kever Yosef (The Tomb of Joseph) and other places that are no longer in Jewish hands. He brings scores of people to the Shemron I believe that he does much good. Now you and Chaim may disagree but I know these to be truths. and Until I see him do something bad for the Jewish people I am going to support him.
Now I will say this one more time stop using this phrase do you even know A) What the phrase means??? B) Where and when and who it can be used on?? I would bet the answer is no.
I would advise you to consult an Orthodox Rabbi about the phrase.
This is the second time that you are defending an evil person who has tried to destroy JTF (the first thing was when you wrote all sorts of nice things about Doom). Do you know any of Haivri's history with JTF?
Can you explain that?
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Let me actually modify this. It may be obvious that you Chaim ben Pesach are in a position to curse him given what he did to you and says about you. That I would understand, even if I don't really know whether it's permitted or not (maybe it is). But other people are cursing him. What's the halacha there for you and for other people? Personally, I find the cursing of people like this over the top and/or unnecessary unless it's someone like an arafat y''s.
How is Haivri different from Arafat? Arafat murdered Jews physically. Haivri murders Jews by deception--by trying to poison then against the one movement that can save Israel and by fooling them into thinking that obeying the Yesha Council will protect them.
I don't really buy that argument. What he's doing may be quite foolhardy, but I just don't see an equivalence there.
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Yimach schmo to that Nazi.
Do you just get up on the wrong side of the bed every day? I know Chaim and he don't get along but even Chaim would not say he is a Nazi. He is a Kahanist Jew who spent six months in an Israeli jail for opposing suicidal appeasing policies. He is a resident of Kfar Tpuach, a Kahanist stronghold. He is a spokesman for many of the Shomron communities. I asked him once about the feud with Chaim and he was evasive, only saying that he never interacted with Chaim (that does not mean he has not said some nasty things). The point is that there are so few truly nationalist Jews that to trash ones you have disagreements with seems wasteful at best.
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Do you just get up on the wrong side of the bed every day? I know Chaim and he don't get along but even Chaim would not say he is a Nazi. He is a Kahanist Jew who spent six months in an Israeli jail for opposing suicidal appeasing policies. He is a resident of Kfar Tpuach, a Kahanist stronghold. He is a spokesman for many of the Shomron communities. I asked him once about the feud with Chaim and he was evasive, only saying that he never interacted with Chaim (that does not mean he has not said some nasty things). The point is that there are so few truly nationalist Jews that to trash ones you have disagreements with seems wasteful at best.
Let's forget about their vicious lashon hara campaign against Chaim (which in the case of Guzofsky, included supporting a white nationalist Nazi)--tell me what meaningful have Haivri and Guzofsky accomplished in their 30 years of Israel. Nothing. They lead pathetic little cults in Tapuach, with absolutely no following outside of it (and especially no secular or youth following).
--How many Zootube videos have Feces Now and/or Muslims devoted to them?
--How many times have the Israeli media reported on them?
--How many Israeli dissidents outside of Tapuach even know their names?
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Dr Brennen Fan you have no right to curse a Jew like that. Firstly you've never meet the man I have. Secondly as much as an establishment figure he may be he lives in a small Settlement called Kfar Tapuach where Binyamin Ze'ev Kahane (Zecker Tzadik L'Kodosh Livrach) lived he has 9 kids and does much work in bringing Jews to the Kever Yosef (The Tomb of Joseph) and other places that are no longer in Jewish hands. He brings scores of people to the Shemron I believe that he does much good. Now you and Chaim may disagree but I know these to be truths. and Until I see him do something bad for the Jewish people I am going to support him.
Now I will say this one more time stop using this phrase do you even know A) What the phrase means??? B) Where and when and who it can be used on?? I would bet the answer is no.
I would advise you to consult an Orthodox Rabbi about the phrase.
This is the second time that you are defending an evil person who has tried to destroy JTF (the first thing was when you wrote all sorts of nice things about Doom). Do you know any of Haivri's history with JTF?
Can you explain that?
Words can not destroy JTF.
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Yimach schmo to that Nazi.
Do you just get up on the wrong side of the bed every day? I know Chaim and he don't get along but even Chaim would not say he is a Nazi. He is a Kahanist Jew who spent six months in an Israeli jail for opposing suicidal appeasing policies. He is a resident of Kfar Tpuach, a Kahanist stronghold. He is a spokesman for many of the Shomron communities. I asked him once about the feud with Chaim and he was evasive, only saying that he never interacted with Chaim (that does not mean he has not said some nasty things). The point is that there are so few truly nationalist Jews that to trash ones you have disagreements with seems wasteful at best.
100% agree. I don't think non-Jews should use this phrase
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That is not an answer to my question. How can you be calling sworn enemies of Chaim and JTF "good Jews"?
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Didn't David Ha Ivri rat out Yekutiel and his whole dog progam to the Shabak? What was the story with that?
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That is not an answer to my question. How can you be calling sworn enemies of Chaim and JTF "good Jews"?
It's not as black and white as you put it. You don't look at him with an open mind. You refuse to listen to any outside opinion. He has fought hard for the Jewish people
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Didn't David Ha Ivri rat out Yekutiel and his whole dog progam to the Shabak? What was the story with that?
I don't know. Yekutiel has been on the Shin Bet watch list for years I doubt that anyone ratted him out.
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It's not as black and white as you put it. You don't look at him with an open mind. You refuse to listen to any outside opinion. He has fought hard for the Jewish people
David, this is crazy talk. Chaim himself explained what Haivri, Doom, and Guzofsky has done. What is with your fascination with these so-called leaders?
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So you think that is it. They can't do good and they don't to good because Chaim doesn't like them?? I don't have a fascination with them. I happen to know them and know the work they do on a day to day basis. Bringing good Jews to the Shemron fighting against expultions, Bringing Jews to Kever Yoseph. The Shin Bet target these people just like our followers these Jews are victims just like Us. You can't lump Abe Foxman of the ADL and Rahm Emanual in the same boat as Jews who fight for the land of Israel
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So you think that is it. They can't do good and they don't to good because Chaim doesn't like them?? I don't have a fascination with them. I happen to know them and know the work they do on a day to day basis. Bringing good Jews to the Shemron fighting against expultions, Bringing Jews to Kever Yoseph. The Shin Bet target these people just like our followers these Jews are victims just like Us. You can't lump Abe Foxman of the ADL and Rahm Emanual in the same boat as Jews who fight for the land of Israel
"Fighting for the land of Israel"?!? That's why Haivri now works for the Yesha Council--a form of controlled opposition employed by the Nazi Israeli government? That's why Haivri informed on Mike Guzofsky's dog-training program back in 2007 (not that Guzofsky is any improvement over him, but it is still informing on a fellow Jew)? And that's why he tried to turn Israeli sentiment against Chaim Ben Pesach by calling him the Jewish Hitler so many times back on the Revava "forum"?
And to answer your claim--I would say that Haivri and Guzofsky are worse than the likes of "Rabbi" Abraham Foxman and Rahm Emanuel, because everyone knows what slime the latter two are. Unfortunately there are misinformed young Israeli patriots who actually think the former two are doing good things, and are duped by them.
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The Yeshuv is not turned against Chaim infact I know many within the Yeshuv that support Chaim but how would you know that you haven't even been there or within a 6 hour flight of Tapauch. You really believe that kahane.org forum turned 160 families against Chaim and JTF. To really get a grasp for what is happening you need to visit the Yeshuv.
Do you know who Lenny Goldberg is??
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I don't know what their approach to resolving this matter was, but it seemed to me that Chaim never had a problem with David HaIvri and try to ignore him even when there was proof that he spoke ill of Chaim and even called him a terrorist. I agree that there should be more courageous people to fight ageist these evil Bolshevik Jews in govt but why can they accept the fact that Chaim is a Right Winger and is fighting for Jews and the righteous people everywhere.
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The Yeshuv is not turned against Chaim infact I know many within the Yeshuv that support Chaim but how would you know that you haven't even been there or within a 6 hour flight of Tapauch. You really believe that kahane.org forum turned 160 families against Chaim and JTF. To really get a grasp for what is happening you need to visit the Yeshuv.
Do you know who Lenny Goldberg is??
Are you trying to deny that Haivri and Guzofsky said and did what they in fact did?
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Huh??
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Yimach schmo to that Nazi.
Dr Brennen Fan you have no right to curse a Jew like that. Firstly you've never meet the man I have. Secondly as much as an establishment figure he may be he lives in a small Settlement called Kfar Tapuach where Binyamin Ze'ev Kahane (Zecker Tzadik L'Kodosh Livrach) lived he has 9 kids and does much work in bringing Jews to the Kever Yosef (The Tomb of Joseph) and other places that are no longer in Jewish hands. He brings scores of people to the Shemron I believe that he does much good. Now you and Chaim may disagree but I know these to be truths. and Until I see him do something bad for the Jewish people I am going to support him.
Now I will say this one more time stop using this phrase do you even know A) What the phrase means??? B) Where and when and who it can be used on?? I would bet the answer is no.
I would advise you to consult an Orthodox Rabbi about the phrase.
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He brings scores of people to the Shemron I believe that he does much good.
Are you suggesting that HaIvri is getting Jews to settle in Shromron (Samaria)? If you are, I can tell you that that is complete baloney. You cannot produce one Jew who settled in Shromron because of HaIvri.
This guy could not get more than 10 people to show up at the Temple Mount when he had the entire news media giving him massive coverage. Everything that he does is an embarrassment for the Jewish people.
Let me repeat: HaIvri has never accomplished one thing for the Jewish people and works to undermine those who do accomplish by allowing his forum to call them Nazis, racists and terrorists.
I happen to strongly disagree with Dr. Brennan Fan using that curse on HaIvri. But I find it interesting that all of the people who object so strongly to attacks on HaIvri have no problem with his years of attacking me in the most vicious way imaginable.
In any case, I ask Dr. Brennan Fan not to use that curse any more against HaIvri, even though he allowed his forum to curse me relentlessly with endless slander.
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Chaim, well said. I also would suggest that Dr. Brennan Fan refrain from calling Ha Ivri a Nazi. Whatever his faults and I understand you don't have a high opinion of him, he is a nationalist Jew who lives in Kfar Tpuach, supports the Hilltop Youth, and spent 6 months in Israeli jails for his opposition to government policy. Such a person does not deserve to be called a Nazi.
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Fine, Chaim, because you said so I will not say ys to David Haivri any longer. How about an English curse instead. F**k David Haivri.
In any case Haivri is exactly what he called you, a Jewish Hitler. I remember how in addition to calling you a Jewish Nazi, he also called the great righteous Gentile Jimmy Sullivan a dirty goy.
David Haivri is the Jewish David Duke.
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Yimach schmo to that Nazi.
Do you just get up on the wrong side of the bed every day? I know Chaim and he don't get along but even Chaim would not say he is a Nazi. He is a Kahanist Jew who spent six months in an Israeli jail for opposing suicidal appeasing policies. He is a resident of Kfar Tpuach, a Kahanist stronghold. He is a spokesman for many of the Shomron communities. I asked him once about the feud with Chaim and he was evasive, only saying that he never interacted with Chaim (that does not mean he has not said some nasty things). The point is that there are so few truly nationalist Jews that to trash ones you have disagreements with seems wasteful at best.
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I know Chaim and he don't get along but even Chaim would not say he is a Nazi.
You're right, I do not call him a Nazi. But HaIvri allowed the slime on his evil forum to call me a Nazi and to even call me Hitler.
He is a Kahanist Jew who spent six months in an Israeli jail for opposing suicidal appeasing policies.
First, HaIvri is not a Kahanist and he himself said that he is not a Kahanist. He sells Kahanist material to make money, but he is not a Kahanist.
Second, HaIvri did not spend six months in Israeli jail.
He is a spokesman for many of the Shomron communities.
HaIvri is not a spokesman for any community. He works with the evil Yesha Council which deliberately sold out the Jews in Gush Katif and collaborated with the Sharon regime to undermine any resistance to the expulsion.
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Fine, Chaim, because you said so I will not say ys to David Haivri any longer. How about an English curse instead. F**k David Haivri.
In any case Haivri is exactly what he called you, a Jewish Hitler. I remember how in addition to calling you a Jewish Nazi, he also called the great righteous Gentile Jimmy Sullivan a dirty goy.
David Haivri is the Jewish David Duke.
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You are correct in stating that HaIvri's forum referred to gentiles as "dirty goyim". The fact that I work with gentiles is one of the reasons HaIvri's forum spewed so much hatred against me.
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Didn't David Ha Ivri rat out Yekutiel and his whole dog progam to the Shabak? What was the story with that?
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Yup, HaIvri complained to the police against Guzofsky's dog program. If that's not informing on your fellow Jews, I don't know what is.
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You are correct in stating that HaIvri's forum referred to gentiles as "dirty goyim". The fact that I work with gentiles is one of the reasons HaIvri's forum spewed so much hatred against me.
It's interesting logic that that chazir and his ten followers use. So--you, probably the most tolerant and nonprejudiced Jewish activist out there (you even made a German a moderator!), are a "Nazi", but Haivri, who hates the vast majority of the world's population because of their birth and/or religion, isn't?
ROTFLMAO.
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Yup, HaIvri complained to the police against Guzofsky's dog program. If that's not informing on your fellow Jews, I don't know what is.
That just shows that there is no honor between phony rightist cockroaches. It's like when Pedofront and Vanguard go at each other. But yeah, you are right, he informed on that pig Dyke Guzofsky and his three-dog kennel operation. Personally I'd like to see Guzzy's dogs turn on the both of them and rip both of their hearts out of their fat, diseased chests.
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Yup, HaIvri complained to the police against Guzofsky's dog program. If that's not informing on your fellow Jews, I don't know what is.
That just shows that there is no honor between phony rightist cockroaches. It's like when Pedofront and Vanguard go at each other. But yeah, you are right, he informed on that pig Dyke Guzofsky and his three-dog kennel operation. Personally I'd like to see Guzzy's dogs turn on the both of them and rip both of their hearts out of their fat, diseased chests.
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Dr. Brennan Fan, this language is much too strong.
I can't stand HaIvri and Guzofsky. I consider them to be phonies who have hurt the Jewish cause. But I do not curse or wish terrible things on them because they are both husbands and fathers. They deserve to be criticized, but not cursed.
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Dr. Brennan Fan, this language is much too strong.
I can't stand HaIvri and Guzofsky. I consider them to be phonies who have hurt the Jewish cause. But I do not curse or wish terrible things on them because they are both husbands and fathers. They deserve to be criticized, but not cursed.
I hope their children are able to see what slime their fathers are.
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Yup, HaIvri complained to the police against Guzofsky's dog program. If that's not informing on your fellow Jews, I don't know what is.
That just shows that there is no honor between phony rightist cockroaches. It's like when Pedofront and Vanguard go at each other. But yeah, you are right, he informed on that pig Dyke Guzofsky and his three-dog kennel operation. Personally I'd like to see Guzzy's dogs turn on the both of them and rip both of their hearts out of their fat, diseased chests.
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Dr. Brennan Fan, this language is much too strong.
I can't stand HaIvri and Guzofsky. I consider them to be phonies who have hurt the Jewish cause. But I do not curse or wish terrible things on them because they are both husbands and fathers. They deserve to be criticized, but not cursed.
Chaim, as a learning point for myself and many other JTFers , how does HaIvri differ from the self hating Jewish leaders in Israel and in the United States in terms of why you believe they can be cursed but you are being more cautious with him despite of the horrific things he said about you?
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Chaim, as a learning point for myself and many other JTFers , how does HaIvri differ from the self hating Jewish leaders in Israel and in the United States in terms of why you believe they can be cursed but you are being more cautious with him despite of the horrific things he said about you?
Good post.
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Chaim, as a learning point for myself and many other JTFers , how does HaIvri differ from the self hating Jewish leaders in Israel and in the United States in terms of why you believe they can be cursed but you are being more cautious with him despite of the horrific things he said about you?
Good post.
Thank you.
To your credit, you brought out points in the discussion that ultimately lead to my question.
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Chaim
Not to split hairs but doesn't the loathing of informers apply to the Galut? I know you can make the case that informing to an evil Jewish government is bad also. And what is there to inform? The Jewish Legion and their dog training was no secret.
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For what it is worth on his Facebook page HaIvri lists Never Again by Meir Kahane among his favorite books. If you are saying he is being dishonest by listing it I have no argument with you but that would be strange
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For what it is worth on his Facebook page HaIvri lists Never Again by Meir Kahane among his favorite books. If you are saying he is being dishonest by listing it I have no argument with you but that would be strange
It's an act. He is a phony Kahanist like PM Lewinsky is a phony rightist. That is what Chaim means.
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Perhaps, but given the limited market for Kahanism that would be strange.
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You're right, I do not call him a Nazi. But HaIvri allowed the slime on his evil forum to call me a Nazi and to even call me Hitler.<< Shame on him if that is the case. He owes you an apology.
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He is a Kahanist Jew who spent six months in an Israeli jail for opposing suicidal appeasing policies.<<SB
First, HaIvri is not a Kahanist and he himself said that he is not a Kahanist. He sells Kahanist material to make money, but he is not a Kahanist.
Second, HaIvri did not spend six months in Israeli jail.<<CBP
Chaim, both his Wikipedia page and the New York Times article on him say he spent six months in jail. Are they both wrong?
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Chaim, both his Wikipedia page and the New York Times article on him say he spent six months in jail. Are they both wrong?
Yes. Anyone can put anything they want on wikipedia, and he told the New York Nazi Times that he spent 6 months in prison. I would like to know when was he in prison and what was the charge? Mike Guzofsky claims that he spent years in prison, which is also baloney.
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For what it is worth on his Facebook page HaIvri lists Never Again by Meir Kahane among his favorite books. If you are saying he is being dishonest by listing it I have no argument with you but that would be strange
You can like a book and still not be a kahanist.
I did quote his view in a thread about his interview in Maan, a PLO news agency, and he was promoting the idea of negotiation with the arabs, only without foreign intervention. He was not promoting Kahanism there, even though what he said leaves room for it. It certainly does not sound like the view of a Kahanist or what we would promote if they interviewed us.
See here: http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,49308.0.html
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Chaim, both his Wikipedia page and the New York Times article on him say he spent six months in jail. Are they both wrong?
Yes. Anyone can put anything they want on wikipedia, and he told the New York Nazi Times that he spent 6 months in prison. I would like to know when was he in prison and what was the charge? Mike Guzofsky claims that he spent years in prison, which is also baloney.
The charge supposedly was desecrating a Mosque.
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For what it is worth on his Facebook page HaIvri lists Never Again by Meir Kahane among his favorite books. If you are saying he is being dishonest by listing it I have no argument with you but that would be strange
You can like a book and still not be a kahanist.
I did quote his view in a thread about his interview in Maan, a PLO news agency, and he was promoting the idea of negotiation with the arabs, only without foreign intervention. He was not promoting Kahanism there, even though what he said leaves room for it. It certainly does not sound like the view of a Kahanist or what we would promote if they interviewed us.
See here: http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,49308.0.html
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In the interview, HaIvri claims that peace can be achieved with the Arab Muslim Nazis but only through local solutions. He does not advocate encouraging the Arab Muslim Nazis to leave. This is the way the phony "right" demagogues of the Yesha Council speak all the time. HaIvri fits in with them very well. No wonder he hates me.
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For what it is worth on his Facebook page HaIvri lists Never Again by Meir Kahane among his favorite books. If you are saying he is being dishonest by listing it I have no argument with you but that would be strange
You can like a book and still not be a kahanist.
I did quote his view in a thread about his interview in Maan, a PLO news agency, and he was promoting the idea of negotiation with the arabs, only without foreign intervention. He was not promoting Kahanism there, even though what he said leaves room for it. It certainly does not sound like the view of a Kahanist or what we would promote if they interviewed us.
See here: http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,49308.0.html
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In the interview, HaIvri claims that peace can be achieved with the Arab Muslim Nazis but only through local solutions. He does not advocate encouraging the Arab Muslim Nazis to leave.
Right, I was alluding to this - certainly we'd have something very different to say if they interviewed us.
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From everything I am reading here, it seems as if the Yesha council act "as if" they were true Zionists. The have every superficial appearance of being strong zionists, but when the chips are down, they not only squeal, they attack.
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Chaim, how can we curse evil Jews like Sergey Brin and Larry Page but not curse evil Jews like David Haivri and Dyke Guzofsky?
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Bingo. CNN knows that haivri is not effective but if was chaim or noam federman that would be a view from the true right wing and quite frankly for right wing group is a moderate group.
For what it is worth on his Facebook page HaIvri lists Never Again by Meir Kahane among his favorite books. If you are saying he is being dishonest by listing it I have no argument with you but that would be strange
You can like a book and still not be a kahanist.
I did quote his view in a thread about his interview in Maan, a PLO news agency, and he was promoting the idea of negotiation with the arabs, only without foreign intervention. He was not promoting Kahanism there, even though what he said leaves room for it. It certainly does not sound like the view of a Kahanist or what we would promote if they interviewed us.
See here: http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,49308.0.html
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In the interview, HaIvri claims that peace can be achieved with the Arab Muslim Nazis but only through local solutions. He does not advocate encouraging the Arab Muslim Nazis to leave.
Right, I was alluding to this - certainly we'd have something very different to say if they interviewed us.
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Chaim, how can we curse evil Jews like Sergey Brin and Larry Page but not curse evil Jews like David Haivri and Dyke Guzofsky?
I won't speak for Chaim but I will give you my opinion. Haivri, whatever his faults, is still a Jew who identifies clearly as a Jew, he is a nationalist, a settler etc. Whatever his shortcomings, and perhaps they are as profound as Chaim says, he is still one of us. It is like having someone in your family who is a jerk, or does bad things. They are still part of your family. Page and Brin are cooperating with savage Jew haters who want to murder us. You might not like either one but there is still a huge difference between the ones who would kill you and the one who is doing a lousy job defending you.