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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: timmyterms on October 02, 2010, 06:00:00 PM
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Hi, i've been reading this site for a while, but wanted to ask a question. My mom makes me ride to school sometimes with this black kid, and his dad has a doctors degree in black studies. He says blacks invented math and science but i dont believe him. He said these videos prove it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18VgQfRkmfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O81TRld77RM
How can this be? What can i say against these videos, can someone help me?
- Timmy
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Hi, i've been reading this site for a while, but wanted to ask a question. My mom makes me ride to school sometimes with this black kid, and his dad has a doctors degree in black studies. He says blacks invented math and science but i dont believe him. He said these videos prove it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18VgQfRkmfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O81TRld77RM
How can this be? What can i say against these videos, can someone help me?
- Timmy
Greeks invented math and science
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That's what i thought too, but the video says the greeks went into africa and stole it from the blacks.
- Timmy
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Yes they stole it from these people.
(http://www.nathanielturner.com/images/New_Folder/africapoverty4.jpg)
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Re: "the greeks went into africa and stole it from the blacks "
That's true!
So then, the blacks, not to be outdone, invented physics.
But the Germans colonized parts of Africa and stole it from them.
So then, the blacks, not to be outdone, invented quantum mechanics and string theory, keeping it for themselves!
BUT! They knew that whitey was already getting ready to steal Computer Science from them, so they just went ahead and sold it to Bill Gates.
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They claim to have invented everything from the English language to the Bible. They even claim to be the Original Hebrews but in reality, they have invented nothing other than AIDS, poverty and crime!
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Hi, i've been reading this site for a while, but wanted to ask a question. My mom makes me ride to school sometimes with this black kid, and his dad has a doctors degree in black studies. He says blacks invented math and science but i dont believe him. He said these videos prove it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18VgQfRkmfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O81TRld77RM
How can this be? What can i say against these videos, can someone help me?
- Timmy
Greeks invented math and science
Well the Greeks invented Geometry while the Indians invented Algebra.
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you need a great knowledge of math to do drive-by's, of course they invented it.
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1 plus 1 be 4....mmmhmmm
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No African tribes even had the wheel before whites or others showed it to them. Do you seriously think they knew anything about math or science? I doubt if most of them can even count much past ten. The average IQ in a lot of countries there is around 50 or 60 (that means half the population are below that). 70 is considered to be mentally retarded. In America the average black IQ is 85 (with half below). This is from white admixture and better nutrition/educational opportunities. Still, they lag behind other races.
I'm not a supremacist (just a separatist), and I don't think that they are necessarily inferior in all ways, and God did create them just as any other race. However when it comes to IQ, most blacks (but not all) are inferior in that particular thing.
IQ plays a big role in many aspects of life. It explains why they never discovered wheels in Africa.
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his dad has a doctors degree in black studies.
That's not even the equivalent of having a degree from clown college.
What a joke! Collectively black people haven't invented anything of significance.
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Hi, i've been reading this site for a while, but wanted to ask a question. My mom makes me ride to school sometimes with this black kid, and his dad has a doctors degree in black studies. He says blacks invented math and science but i dont believe him. He said these videos prove it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18VgQfRkmfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O81TRld77RM
How can this be? What can i say against these videos, can someone help me?
- Timmy
what kind of job can you exactly get with black studies? i do certainly wish i had this class in high school, would be an easy A. what history do they have?
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Maybe blacks counted with 1 stolen wallet, 2 stolen wallets?
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They be gypshun n'sheeit
Dat motha' plane be watchin you yo!
(http://icons.mysitemyway.com/wp-content/gallery/rounded-glossy-black-icons-culture/033396-rounded-glossy-black-icon-culture-egyptian-eye-sc56.png)
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I think the guy in the video is a comedian, like this fry the chicken women. He makes fun of some black people.
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No African tribes even had the wheel before whites or others showed it to them. Do you seriously think they knew anything about math or science? I doubt if most of them can even count much past ten. The average IQ in a lot of countries there is around 50 or 60 (that means half the population are below that). 70 is considered to be mentally retarded. In America the average black IQ is 85 (with half below). This is from white admixture and better nutrition/educational opportunities. Still, they lag behind other races.
I'm not a supremacist (just a separatist), and I don't think that they are necessarily inferior in all ways, and G-d did create them just as any other race. However when it comes to IQ, most blacks (but not all) are inferior in that particular thing.
IQ plays a big role in many aspects of life. It explains why they never discovered wheels in Africa.
give them a break Rubystars, they are still more advanced than the Arabs that occupy Gaza and Yesha.
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No African tribes even had the wheel before whites or others showed it to them. Do you seriously think they knew anything about math or science? I doubt if most of them can even count much past ten. The average IQ in a lot of countries there is around 50 or 60 (that means half the population are below that). 70 is considered to be mentally retarded. In America the average black IQ is 85 (with half below). This is from white admixture and better nutrition/educational opportunities. Still, they lag behind other races.
I'm not a supremacist (just a separatist), and I don't think that they are necessarily inferior in all ways, and G-d did create them just as any other race. However when it comes to IQ, most blacks (but not all) are inferior in that particular thing.
IQ plays a big role in many aspects of life. It explains why they never discovered wheels in Africa.
Africa is a great continent. Even sub Saharan Africa is very multifacted. It is not that easy. Yes you are right there are in some areas people like you talk about i.e. Somalia. I have read about this too. But in some other areas it is not like this.
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Never forget that the worse Black Cushite in history was.....Nimrod, the world's first dictator & arch foe of Avraham Avinu.
Some claim that the Keitz is approaching, and that the Negroe Obama is the Anti-Moshiach.
The Negroe excels the White in one important area: the Black is unbelievably CUNNING, which often more than makes up for his lack of IQ!
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No African tribes even had the wheel before whites or others showed it to them. Do you seriously think they knew anything about math or science? I doubt if most of them can even count much past ten. The average IQ in a lot of countries there is around 50 or 60 (that means half the population are below that). 70 is considered to be mentally retarded. In America the average black IQ is 85 (with half below). This is from white admixture and better nutrition/educational opportunities. Still, they lag behind other races.
I'm not a supremacist (just a separatist), and I don't think that they are necessarily inferior in all ways, and G-d did create them just as any other race. However when it comes to IQ, most blacks (but not all) are inferior in that particular thing.
IQ plays a big role in many aspects of life. It explains why they never discovered wheels in Africa.
give them a break Rubystars, they are still more advanced than the Arabs that occupy Gaza and Yesha.
Yes, the arabs will never even produce a george washington carver - the pride of the blacks.
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No African tribes even had the wheel before whites or others showed it to them. Do you seriously think they knew anything about math or science? I doubt if most of them can even count much past ten. The average IQ in a lot of countries there is around 50 or 60 (that means half the population are below that). 70 is considered to be mentally retarded. In America the average black IQ is 85 (with half below). This is from white admixture and better nutrition/educational opportunities. Still, they lag behind other races.
I'm not a supremacist (just a separatist), and I don't think that they are necessarily inferior in all ways, and G-d did create them just as any other race. However when it comes to IQ, most blacks (but not all) are inferior in that particular thing.
IQ plays a big role in many aspects of life. It explains why they never discovered wheels in Africa.
give them a break Rubystars, they are still more advanced than the Arabs that occupy Gaza and Yesha.
The Arabs today are just as dumb as the Negroes in the United States and Africa. The Arabs of the Rashidun era were far more advanced than the Negroes (although far less advanced than most of the other peoples in the known world back then).
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Africa is a great continent. Even sub Saharan Africa is very multifacted. It is not that easy. Yes you are right there are in some areas people like you talk about i.e. Somalia. I have read about this too. But in some other areas it is not like this.
Could you explain what you mean Ulli? I think the greatest achievements Africans made on their own were some folk stories they came up with and some interesting colorful masks for their ceremonies, and shell jewelry. As far as I know, they didn't come up with writing on their own, the wheel, or much of anything. Some have very basic agriculture or clothes making skills.
North Africa doesn't really count because they, for the most part, weren't black.
give them a break Rubystars, they are still more advanced than the Arabs that occupy Gaza and Yesha.
Arabs are more wicked because they are more capable in some ways. Even Arabs consider blacks to be nothing but a slave race. I don't think anyone should be a slave, but I do think blacks would be more dignified in many ways living a hunting and gathering lifestyle, than being forced to fit into a modern society that most of them can't seem to be able to handle.
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That's what i thought too, but the video says the greeks went into africa and stole it from the blacks.
- Timmy
Okay, let's assume he's correct; the Greeks went into Africa, stole all the math and science from the blacks and then went back to Greece and expanded on it. So, what did they do with the geniuses in Africa that they stole everything from? Did they annihilate the African blacks and destroy the evidence to cover their tracks so all the Black Studies professors, who know and teach the truth in 2010, have no evidence to back up their theory? If they didn't, why didn't the African blacks excel even further than the Greeks given that they had the knowledge first and it was all old hat to them? Or maybe the Greeks kidnapped all the black African mathematicians and scientists and brought them back to Greece, leaving Africa without their geniuses so the ancient math and science was forgotten there.
In all seriousness, what he probably means is that the Greeks stole math and science from the Egyptians, but that argument is also flawed. The reason he says blacks instead of Egyptians is probably because someone, assuming they were to believe him, looking at Egyptians today would see no correlation between an Egyptian and a black African.
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Yes, the arabs will never even produce a george washington carver - the pride of the blacks.
What exactly did he come up with? Some blacks try to credit him with peanut butter (not true, peanut paste was used before that) and apparently he came up with a bunch of different uses for peanuts (but is that really true?). Tahini is sesame seed butter and pretty popular with Arabs.
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Yes, the arabs will never even produce a george washington carver - the pride of the blacks.
What exactly did he come up with? Some blacks try to credit him with peanut butter (not true, peanut paste was used before that) and apparently he came up with a bunch of different uses for peanuts (but is that really true?). Tahini is sesame seed butter and pretty popular with Arabs.
You must be referring to Tahina. And Hummus is more popular among the Arabian chimps.
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One thing that must be grasped is that too many people think of negroids when they hear the word 'African'. In fact, northern Africans bear no resemblance to sub-Saharan negroids. Clearly, there was some really impressive architecture and science in NORTH AFRICA. As for as sub-Saharan Africa, there was more or less no civilization there until the Dutch Boers arrived.
Let's leave the history lesson behind and consider this: Despite almost 50 years of full-bore racial quotas in colleges and universities, there are still embarrassingly few blacks in the hard sciences and engineering. And those that are at the university level are almost invariably from the Carribean or Africa itself (ie, not from the United States).
Heck, this 'professor' that you got this stuff from is in a joke field in his own right, spinning fair tales. Did you ever hear the one spun by his ilk that the Egyptians (who were assuredly not negroid, by the way) were capable of flight? I don't mean like the Wright Brothers, but they had wings ?!? I'm not making that up ...... That's a tale that I read about several years ago, spun by some African-American studies professor, taught at a major U.S. college, reported a few years ago in US News and World Report.
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Yes, the arabs will never even produce a george washington carver - the pride of the blacks.
What exactly did he come up with? Some blacks try to credit him with peanut butter (not true, peanut paste was used before that) and apparently he came up with a bunch of different uses for peanuts (but is that really true?). Tahini is sesame seed butter and pretty popular with Arabs.
You must be referring to Tahina. And Hummus is more popular among the Arabian chimps.
It's labeled as Tahini on the bottles here and in recipes. It might be spelled differently in Israel.
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No that's how it's called in Arabic.
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Ithaca-37
Let's leave the history lesson behind and consider this: Despite almost 50 years of full-bore racial quotas in colleges and universities, there are still embarrassingly few blacks in the hard sciences and engineering. And those that are at the university level are almost invariably from the Carribean or Africa itself (ie, not from the United States).
Even with quotas and help from the historically better educated Island Hoppers only very few blacks are people I would consider top in the field people.... As for Washington Carver he was accredited in a time before it was PC to do so so I will give him the credit and respect I would give any white person of similar stature.
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No that's how it's called in Arabic.
That's probably why it's called that then. Most of it imported here comes from Arab countries.
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No that's how it's called in Arabic.
That's probably why it's called that then. Most of it imported here comes from Arab countries.
America gone Arabia?
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No that's how it's called in Arabic.
That's probably why it's called that then. Most of it imported here comes from Arab countries.
America gone Arabia?
In the international foods aisle there's all kinds of different ethnic food.
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Africa is a great continent. Even sub Saharan Africa is very multifacted. It is not that easy. Yes you are right there are in some areas people like you talk about i.e. Somalia. I have read about this too. But in some other areas it is not like this.
Could you explain what you mean Ulli? I think the greatest achievements Africans made on their own were some folk stories they came up with and some interesting colorful masks for their ceremonies, and shell jewelry. As far as I know, they didn't come up with writing on their own, the wheel, or much of anything. Some have very basic agriculture or clothes making skills.
North Africa doesn't really count because they, for the most part, weren't black.
give them a break Rubystars, they are still more advanced than the Arabs that occupy Gaza and Yesha.
Arabs are more wicked because they are more capable in some ways. Even Arabs consider blacks to be nothing but a slave race. I don't think anyone should be a slave, but I do think blacks would be more dignified in many ways living a hunting and gathering lifestyle, than being forced to fit into a modern society that most of them can't seem to be able to handle.
Uganda & Kenya are more developed countries.
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So did Uganda and Kenya develop these countries on their own with black brain power?
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Re: "So did Uganda and Kenya develop these countries on their own with black brain power? "
Yeah, because when blacks eat other blacks' brains they have black brain power! :laugh:
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So did Uganda and Kenya develop these countries on their own with black brain power?
There are living lots of intelligent people. Westlands quarter in Nairobi look nearly like a western city. I think you are right if you think about Mali, Senegal, Mauretania, north Sudan, north Nigeria etc, but not all countries are like this.
Concerning the inventions, you will not believe, what people produce there on a small scale in craftmen shops i.e. in Nairobi. They are not stupid at all. I think some countries in Africa will develop more in the future and others will go down to stoneage. Perhaps there is a direct connection between downfall with hate and envy towards western countries and acknowledging the own mistakes with trying to improve.
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Ulli learning a craft is not the same as inventing it. Even if somewhere along the line a black African did invent something in history, the discovery wasn't able to spread because they didn't have any capability of written language. Europeans, Asians, even Arabs brought them just about everything they know, and the vast majority of them still live in a very primitive way. The more intelligent among them (approaching normal intelligence or having normal intelligence, the higher end of the curve) may be able to do more complex things than the middle and bottom half, but even at that, black Africans never developed anything really on their own without whites or other races to help them.
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Re: "So did Uganda and Kenya develop these countries on their own with black brain power? "
Yeah, because when blacks eat other blacks' brains they have black brain power! :laugh:
:::D I think I found a video of that on youtube a while back.
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Re: "arabs will never even produce a george washington carver - the pride of the blacks."
So true!
Europeans produced the symphony orchestra and ballet.
Nigrum invented jazz and boogie woogie.
A-rabs will never even produce tap dancing.
When's the last time you even saw an A-rab dancing? (belly dancers don't count!)
Ever noticed that A-rabs only exhibit TWO behaviors throughout their entire lives:
They're either walking around real grim giving the "Evil Eye" to all inhabitants on planet Earth, or they're rioting in the streets calling for blood, maiming and murdering.
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Hi, i've been reading this site for a while, but wanted to ask a question. My mom makes me ride to school sometimes with this black kid, and his dad has a doctors degree in black studies. He says blacks invented math and science but i dont believe him. He said these videos prove it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18VgQfRkmfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O81TRld77RM
How can this be? What can i say against these videos, can someone help me?
- Timmy
Give these guys an actual math problem and ask them to solve it.
It's funny that they have no clue about what they read. According to the first video, all of today's technology is nothing compared to an ancient pyramid. The fact that just about every calculus class, even in a majority black school is virtually all white is irrelevant. The lack of modern day black pHd's in science and mathematics is also irrelevant.
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OK thanks for all of the info. I think what he is saying is that the egyptians used to be blacks until the arabs invaded and threw them out and thats who the greeks stole math and science from.
So this guy his name is Sara Suten Seti, has a big movement and wants to take over everything like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8GzL_YCkO8 . Some of his videos have over 10,000 views. What can be done about this?
Ohh, a few people asked, the guy who takes me to school sometimes has his own company. He always trys to sell my mom soap and shampoo and makeup. I think its called amway. But he drives a really crappy van, so i don't know if his company is good.
Timmy
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OK thanks for all of the info. I think what he is saying is that the egyptians used to be blacks until the arabs invaded and threw them out and thats who the greeks stole math and science from.
So this guy his name is Sara Suten Seti, has a big movement and wants to take over everything like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8GzL_YCkO8 . Some of his videos have over 10,000 views. What can be done about this?
Ohh, a few people asked, the guy who takes me to school sometimes has his own company. He always trys to sell my mom soap and shampoo and makeup. I think its called amway. But he drives a really crappy van, so i don't know if his company is good.
Timmy
BUT Egyptians WERE NOT black!!!!
Egyptians were not negroid...
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Something tells me this post isn't sincere. I don't know maybe it's just me.
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Never forget that the worse Black Cushite in history was.....Nimrod, the world's first dictator & arch foe of Avraham Avinu.
Some claim that the Keitz is approaching, and that the Negroe Obama is the Anti-Moshiach.
"Some," as in, you?
What is an anti-moshiach? Did you just make that up?
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Speaking about black cannibalism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uwt7Yiv2Zc
Of course, some people are so brainwashed that even being attacked by a black won't cure them:
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/04/23/we-are-not-your-weapons-we-are-women/
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Yes, the arabs will never even produce a george washington carver - the pride of the blacks.
What exactly did he come up with? Some blacks try to credit him with peanut butter (not true, peanut paste was used before that) and apparently he came up with a bunch of different uses for peanuts (but is that really true?). Tahini is sesame seed butter and pretty popular with Arabs.
Aside from some uses for peanuts that he did come up with (the number is exaggerated because he said openly that many of his own recommendations are coming straight from the US dept of Agriculture, and people make the mistake of assuming everything he said was his own invention - but nonetheless he had some innovations), and came up with very important agricultural theory which paved the way for later advancements.
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He might have been on the higher end of the curve, but I doubt anything he was some kind of black "genius".
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until about the 16th century, europe was not that far ahead of africa. before that, the 2 were impoverished, undeveloped, and uncivilized continents. sure, europe had writing, but everyone but clergy and nobles was illiterate.
the quality of life in the 2 contents was about the same, people died at 25, infant mortality rate was painfully high, lots of women and babies died in childbirth. there was a famine every other year. there was no toilet paper, no bathrooms for that matter, and when you did get cholera, there was no way to treat it. people died of the pox and the plague left and right.
until very very recently, both continents were s**t.
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Re: "arabs will never even produce a george washington carver - the pride of the blacks."
So true!
Europeans produced the symphony orchestra and ballet.
Nigrum invented jazz and boogie woogie.
A-rabs will never even produce tap dancing.
hehehe
Ever noticed that A-rabs only exhibit TWO behaviors throughout their entire lives:
They're either walking around real grim giving the "Evil Eye" to all inhabitants on planet Earth, or they're rioting in the streets calling for blood, maiming and murdering.
Yes, I did notice that. They look at you like they want to murder you.
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Something tells me this post isn't sincere. I don't know maybe it's just me.
Probably it isn't, but it's still good to get the facts out.
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Ohh, a few people asked, the guy who takes me to school sometimes has his own company. He always trys to sell my mom soap and shampoo and makeup. I think its called amway. But he drives a really crappy van, so i don't know if his company is good.
Timmy
He does not own the company, he's a "distributor." It's a company that uses "multilevel marketing," or "network marketing."
Unless he's one of these - Steve Van Andel (Chairman)
Doug DeVos (President)
Al Koop (Chief Operating Officer)
Russ Evans (Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer)
Otherwise he does not own any company.
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what really pisses me off is that this whole PC bull**** says that blacks are the master race and the only reason that their countries are cesspools is because "da wite devul" came there and killed all the black people. i remember in highschool my history school said "the african countries are undeveleoped due to their history of being under imperialist control." what a bunch of bs, if anything imperialism got the african countries more developed, before that they were swingning off trees and eating each other.
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what really pisses me off is that this whole PC bull**** says that blacks are the master race and the only reason that their countries are cesspools is because "da wite devul" came there and killed all the black people. i remember in highschool my history school said "the african countries are undeveleoped due to their history of being under imperialist control." what a bunch of bs, if anything imperialism got the african countries more developed, before that they were swingning off trees and eating each other.
not really, before the imperialists came, there was a sustainable food supply (jungle).
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there still is plenty of food in africa, its just that thier governments cannot distribute it properly.
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You mean their leaders hoard all the food aid and eat it themselves.
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pretty much.
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Did the black history "professors" ever learned math and science beyond multiplication to 100 and body functions ?
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How do they calculate how much doodoo they need for their huts without math?
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Well they just pile it up a bit higher than their heads.
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Well they just pile it up a bit higher than their heads.
lol
For real though, if not for white colonization, Sub-Saharan blacks would still be living as their ancestors did 10000 years ago. Where whites didn't go you see tribes who still live in doodoo huts or small villages gated by acacia tree branches to keep wild animals out. In Northern Africa there were some black civilizations that achieved some success though like the Kushites, but I'm unaware of their total accomplishments.
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Well they just pile it up a bit higher than their heads.
lol
For real though, if not for white colonization, Sub-Saharan blacks would still be living as their ancestors did 10000 years ago. Where whites didn't go you see tribes who still live in doodoo huts or small villages gated by acacia tree branches to keep wild animals out. In Northern Africa there were some black civilizations that achieved some success though like the Kushites, but I'm unaware of their total accomplishments.
you do know that before the enlightenment, europe was not much better than africa.
if during the 12th century, china, which at the time was very (they had gunpowder and could use it in a simple frag grenade) advanced, decided to take over europe in the same way that the european powers took africa during the 17th century, would that be justifiable? it would be the exact same situation, only instead of white people, you have asians making an empire, and instead of black people, its whites who are being conquered.
instead of white people talking about how much doodooo blacks need for there huts, the chinese would be talking about how the whites crap in there buckets and cover the streets with it.
im not saying it would be justifiable for china to take europe when it was an uncivilized craphole
but its also not justifiable for europe to take africa when it was an uncivilized craphole.
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Europeans were much more advanced than Africans even when they were tribal and pagan. To compare them to modern society yes they were primitive compared to now, but their mythology was richer, their technology greater, and they had more innovations in hunting weapons and agriculture than the Africans. In order to survive harsh winters of the north, the Europeans needed to be able to plan ahead and innovate to survive.
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i am not talking about pagan europe, yes, greece and rome were really powerful and really advanced. but europe was absolute crap from the fall of rome all the way until the enlightenment.
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i am not talking about pagan europe, yes, greece and rome were really powerful and really advanced. but europe was absolute crap from the fall of rome all the way until the enlightenment.
It's true that there was an oppressive environment for most people. This is one reason I think it's absolutely stupid when blacks whine about having been slaves. If someone had a higher rank than you, you bowed your head to them and called them Lord, and you worked from dawn until night, and possibly more if you had children. Most white people have ancestors that were virtual slaves. At least they knew how to do fairly complex things that the blacks in sub-Saharan Africa would never have been able to do. They still had wheels, metallurgy, textiles, farming, and various crafts and tools that Africans had no concept of. Only the elites could read, but at least the society had written language, unlike the blacks in Africa.
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i am not talking about pagan europe, yes, greece and rome were really powerful and really advanced. but europe was absolute crap from the fall of rome all the way until the enlightenment.
It's true that there was an oppressive environment for most people. This is one reason I think it's absolutely stupid when blacks whine about having been slaves. If someone had a higher rank than you, you bowed your head to them and called them Lord, and you worked from dawn until night, and possibly more if you had children. Most white people have ancestors that were virtual slaves. At least they knew how to do fairly complex things that the blacks in sub-Saharan Africa would never have been able to do. They still had wheels, metallurgy, textiles, farming, and various crafts and tools that Africans had no concept of. Only the elites could read, but at least the society had written language, unlike the blacks in Africa.
yes, europe had more technology, but only the elites had access to it. the stuff that the european peasants had, the blacks wernt that far behind. they domesticated some animals.
quality of life was about the same. you were lucky to reach the age of 25, there was no medicine, no sewage system, no education, barely anything to give indication of civilization.
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When you talk about average age of 25, you have to take into account there was also a lot of child mortality. That brings down the average. If someone lived through childhood diseases, then they were likely to live beyond 25 (although life expectancy is not what it is today of course).
The European peasants used technology like horse-drawn plows and other tools that were more complex than what Africans had. The blacksmiths and candle makers had much more skill in crafts than Africans did. Africans did have some basic agriculture, but the vast majority were still hunter-gatherers into the 20th century.
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Europeans were much more advanced than Africans even when they were tribal and pagan. To compare them to modern society yes they were primitive compared to now, but their mythology was richer, their technology greater, and they had more innovations in hunting weapons and agriculture than the Africans. In order to survive harsh winters of the north, the Europeans needed to be able to plan ahead and innovate to survive.
Of course European as well as Asian steppe "barbarians" had mastered key technologies such as husbandry, metal working, weaving, sea faring etc. thousands of years ago (before they settled down and became literate). In comparison, many African tribes didn't even discover pottery.
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Yes Asians too were challenged by their environment and their people benefited from this and grew smarter over time, just like in Europe. African people remained living the same basic lifestyles for thousands upon thousands of years.
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Well they just pile it up a bit higher than their heads.
lol
For real though, if not for white colonization, Sub-Saharan blacks would still be living as their ancestors did 10000 years ago. Where whites didn't go you see tribes who still live in doodoo huts or small villages gated by acacia tree branches to keep wild animals out. In Northern Africa there were some black civilizations that achieved some success though like the Kushites, but I'm unaware of their total accomplishments.
you do know that before the enlightenment, europe was not much better than africa.
if during the 12th century, china, which at the time was very (they had gunpowder and could use it in a simple frag grenade) advanced, decided to take over europe in the same way that the european powers took africa during the 17th century, would that be justifiable? it would be the exact same situation, only instead of white people, you have asians making an empire, and instead of black people, its whites who are being conquered.
instead of white people talking about how much doodooo blacks need for there huts, the chinese would be talking about how the whites crap in there buckets and cover the streets with it.
im not saying it would be justifiable for china to take europe when it was an uncivilized craphole
but its also not justifiable for europe to take africa when it was an uncivilized craphole.
You know, back then, things weren't so much a question of justifiability as much as simply that people did what they were capable of doing. We only look back on it in retrospect in terms of that question. I don't really think I'd care if the Chinese had conquered europe, the question is what was their purpose in doing so, and what are their intentions going forward, how do they treat people now, etc. Those would be the relevant questions. Justifiability is a moot point, after the fact. (except for arabs and arab nationalism of course. arab jihad and warfare is always based on the notion of unjustifiable infidel/non-Arab possession of land).
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Well they just pile it up a bit higher than their heads.
lol
For real though, if not for white colonization, Sub-Saharan blacks would still be living as their ancestors did 10000 years ago. Where whites didn't go you see tribes who still live in doodoo huts or small villages gated by acacia tree branches to keep wild animals out. In Northern Africa there were some black civilizations that achieved some success though like the Kushites, but I'm unaware of their total accomplishments.
you do know that before the enlightenment, europe was not much better than africa.
if during the 12th century, china, which at the time was very (they had gunpowder and could use it in a simple frag grenade) advanced, decided to take over europe in the same way that the european powers took africa during the 17th century, would that be justifiable? it would be the exact same situation, only instead of white people, you have asians making an empire, and instead of black people, its whites who are being conquered.
instead of white people talking about how much doodooo blacks need for there huts, the chinese would be talking about how the whites crap in there buckets and cover the streets with it.
im not saying it would be justifiable for china to take europe when it was an uncivilized craphole
but its also not justifiable for europe to take africa when it was an uncivilized craphole.
You know, back then, things weren't so much a question of justifiability as much as simply that people did what they were capable of doing. We only look back on it in retrospect in terms of that question. I don't really think I'd care if the Chinese had conquered europe, the question is what was their purpose in doing so, and what are their intentions going forward, how do they treat people now, etc. Those would be the relevant questions. Justifiability is a moot point, after the fact. (except for arabs and arab nationalism of course. arab jihad and warfare is always based on the notion of unjustifiable infidel/non-Arab possession of land).
if the chinese had the same motivation as the whites: money (lets be honest, thats all they wanted, they didnt come to civilize them)
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Wow. I love how they have their comment setting to approved posts only.
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Wow. I love how they have their comment setting to approved posts only.
what are you talking about?
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KahanistLiberal,
Your points made are valid ones, "all things being equal", as they say in the world of academics. However, in the real world of politik, "justifiable" is defined as "whatever can be gotten away with" - strength succeed and the weak perish. Modern nations today just use a lot more "negotiating" and a lot less "invading" to achieve the same goals as before. In fact, some peoples and cultures we consider undeveloped today once almost did overtake Europe.
In the 3rd Century BCE, ancient King Asoka united virtually the entire Indian subcontinent under one Buddhist nation, and sent Buddhist missionaries as far into Europe as the Polish Court to "convert" the Christians to "the middle way" of Buddha. The Muslim Invasion which spread out of Arabia seized Jerusalem, vanquished the Byzantine Eastern Roman Empire, invaded western Europe across the entire continent from Romania to the Gates of Vienna and into France, after seizing the former Roman provinces of northern Africa and setting up a kingdom in Spain. Only military force checked their advance and "saved" all of Europe from Islam. The African Negroes might be the only racial group which throughout history only warred among itself and did not look outside of Africa with the intention of achieving wealth and building empires. And if this remains true today, it more likely is due to the Negros' never having achieved any intellectual or technological advancement which would have enabled it to compete successfully with other races and peoples. What can be stated with certainty is that the black Africans' lack of global conquest is not because of any special "sense of fair play" or because the Negro lacks the same aggressive, violent, and brutal nature of the Roman or Arab, but because the African Negroes never discovered the wheel and never developed the basic technology necessary to achieve a mechanized and disciplined society. All of Africa's modern nation states and cities we know today were built and modernized by British, Belgian, French, and German Colonial Imperialists, without whom the African Negro would still be a naked cannibal chased by lions and tigers. And which race/nation is the new colonizer and exploiter of the African sub-continent's resources? China!
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Ever noticed that A-rabs only exhibit TWO behaviors throughout their entire lives:
They're either walking around real grim giving the "Evil Eye" to all inhabitants on planet Earth, or they're rioting in the streets calling for blood, maiming and murdering.
Yes, I did notice that. They look at you like they want to murder you.
Yeah! But that's when they're happy and feelin' good!
They also can give off mean looks when they don't like you! :o
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Re: "before the imperialists came, there was a sustainable food supply (jungle). "
Well...OK ... but still there's only so much dark meat a cannibal can eat before having to enlarge the menu by cooking and eating a white Baptist Missionary! ;D
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Wow. I love how they have their comment setting to approved posts only.
what are you talking about?
I left a comment asking the first guy to identify the difference between differential and integral calculus since he believes that blacks invented it. Don't expect it to go up, because he first has to approve my comment.
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Re: "there still is plenty of food in africa, its just that thier governments cannot distribute it properly. "
You're right, and it's not their fault!
It's a real problem trying to keep arms and legs hacked off with machetes fresh using refrigeration, because they usually start to go bad after a few years, even before the cannibals get a chance to eat them! ;D
And the cannibal distribution itself is not sufficient for keeping the animal populations well fed. >:(
Even though the governments have done what they could, such things as rounding up the cannibals into trucks and buses and driving them across Africa to redistribute them, they found that upon arrival at their destinations the buses and trucks were all completely empty because the cannibals ate each other on the way! :laugh: ;D
Next, the governments are going to give "Supply Side Cannibalism" a go! 8)
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Two of the very few schvartzers who made it in engineering!
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Star Trek is so unrealistic... There's no blacks in the future!
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You're right!
The Messianic Age has to start before 5960AM (2200CE). According to the Midrash & the Zemach Zedek, there will be no Hamitics (= Negroes, Asiatics, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans etc) in the Messianic Age.....well maybe just a very few of the good ones!
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You're right!
The Messianic Age has to start before 5960AM (2200CE). According to the Midrash & the Zemach Zedek, there will be no Hamitics (= Negroes, Asiatics, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans etc) in the Messianic Age.....well maybe just a very few of the good ones!
huh?
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You're right!
The Messianic Age has to start before 5960AM (2200CE). According to the Midrash & the Zemach Zedek, there will be no Hamitics (= Negroes, Asiatics, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans etc) in the Messianic Age.....well maybe just a very few of the good ones!
huh?
lol
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Star Trek is so unrealistic... There's no blacks in the future!
:clap: :clap: :jump: ^-^ :celebrate: :robot::) 8)
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They invented everything. You guys must have just emerged from out of a cave.
Leroy created everything. He also created a spaceship that will suck up the evil white race.
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You sound like a good Hamite who will merit to exist in to the Messianic Age, Angry Chinaman!
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You sound like a good Hamite who will merit to exist in to the Messianic Age, Angry Chinaman!
That's possibly the most racist post I've ever seen on JTF.
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They invented everything. You guys must have just emerged from out of a cave.
Leroy created everything. He also created a spaceship that will suck up the evil white race.
Leroy also invented the all-natural drug jenkem. Mmmhmm.
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In the 3rd Century B.C.E., ancient King Asoka united virtually the entire Indian subcontinent under one Buddhist nation, and sent Buddhist missionaries as far into Europe as the Polish Court to "convert" the Christians to "the middle way" of Buddha.
How could anyone convert Xtians in the 3rd Century B.C.E. [Yuske did not exist until 300 years later, and there were no Xtians in Poland for quite some time after]?
lions and tigers.
The only tigers that have ever lived in Africa come from China in modern times for a "tiger trust" breeding program to save China's tigers.
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Re: "In the 3rd Century B.C.E., ancient King Asoka united virtually the entire Indian subcontinent under one Buddhist nation, and sent Buddhist missionaries as far into Europe as the Polish Court to "convert" the Christians to "the middle way" of Buddha"
I stand corrected.
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Re: "The only tigers that have ever lived in Africa come from China in modern times for a "tiger trust" breeding program to save China's tigers."
You're wrong!
I know you are wrong because I saw a Tarzan movie once and the tigers were eating Negroes for lunch.
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Re: "The only tigers that have ever lived in Africa come from China in modern times for a "tiger trust" breeding program to save China's tigers."
You're wrong!
I know you are wrong because I saw a Tarzan movie once and the tigers were eating Negroes for lunch.
It really does seem like they should live there.