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Title: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: david1967 on October 02, 2010, 07:50:37 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/01/rick-sanchez-fired-from-c_n_747607.html

Sanchez made references to Jews controlling the media, and his enemy, Jon Stewart, being a part of the evil "cabal."  I'd like to ask Sanchez why CNN is so anti-Israel, if it, like all the other networks, is controlled by Jews?
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on October 02, 2010, 10:15:04 PM
I listened to the interview, it was bad, but not as bad as some people are making it seem.  I actually Jon Stewart far more offensive than snachez (prior to this).  Jon Stewart is an arrogant American/Israeli bashing creep who thinks he is G-d's gift as the ultimate expression of superior human intellect.  Yimach Schemo to him.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 02, 2010, 11:00:15 PM
John Stewart is one of the worst self-hating Jews in America and he is brainwashing the younger generation into not caring about the problems that America faces. He's making them think everything is a joke and nothing is serious. Basically making people stupid so the little elitists can pass whatever the [censored] they want. The damage this animal has done is unbelievable. He is also the kind of Jew who causes anti-Semitism by acting like a little worm piece of drek.

Sanchez was spot on with that piece of excrement Stewart, who is one of the sorriest excuses for Judenrat scum on the face of the planet. I hope he dies of cancer and his soul is obliterated in the bowels of hell.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 02, 2010, 11:35:59 PM
John Stewart is one of the worst self-hating Jews in America and he is brainwashing the younger generation into not caring about the problems that America faces. He's making them think everything is a joke and nothing is serious. Basically making people stupid so the little elitists can pass whatever the deleted they want. The damage this animal has done is unbelievable. He is also the kind of Jew who causes anti-Semitism by acting like a little worm piece of drek.

Sanchez was spot on with that piece of excrement Stewart, who is one of the sorriest excuses for Judenrat scum on the face of the planet. I hope he dies of cancer and his soul is obliterated in the bowels of hell.
There was no reason for him to say that Jews control the media and are "not a minority" though.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on October 03, 2010, 12:49:55 AM
Rich Sanchez is a discussing Liberal. The first time I herad this scumbag he had an entire segment attacking the Dailycaller.com which is a great Conservative website.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Rubystars on October 03, 2010, 07:18:16 AM
Personally I don't have a problem with anyone eating anything (within reason) they want to eat. However one time he had on his show a box of "pizza bagel bites" and was making the point that it was very ironic that a Jewish product had pepperoni on top, as if pointing out specifically that it wasn't kosher. Then he made a point of eating them. The point was, I think, to distance himself from Jewish culture, in a public way, not just that he liked them.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 03, 2010, 07:43:55 AM
I could care less if Jews control the media but the fact he got fired a day after making these comments makes it look like he was absolutely right. You can slander Christians all day on the major liberal networks but when one of their employees dares mention something halfway anti-Semitic like Sanchez. I'm glad someone finally went after that piece of excrement John Stewart who has done so much damage to America by rotting the minds of young people with his garbage.

And I hate Rick Sanchez too. How can he be a Cuban immigrant and be a liberal? Insane. Did he say Jews aren't a minority or Jews aren't a deprived minority?
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on October 03, 2010, 07:58:14 AM
I could care less if Jews control the media but the fact he got fired a day after making these comments makes it look like he was absolutely right. You can slander Christians all day on the major liberal networks but when one of their employees dares mention something halfway anti-Semitic like Sanchez. I'm glad someone finally went after that piece of excrement John Stewart who has done so much damage to America by rotting the minds of young people with his garbage.

And I hate Rick Sanchez too. How can he be a Cuban immigrant and be a liberal? Insane. Did he say Jews aren't a minority or Jews aren't a deprived minority?

בס''ד

This is a lie. The news media slanders Israel and the Jewish people day and night. They work relentlessly to help the Arab Muslim Nazis perpetrate a holocaust against 5.5 million Israeli Jews, G-d forbid. While the media is also anti-Christian, their incitement and hatemongering against the Jews far exceeds what they do to anyone else. The same is true in Hollywood: their portrayal of Jews as Woody Allen-type wimps is pure Nazi propaganda. By calling Sanchez's Nazi remarks "halfway anti-Semitic" and by claiming that the Nazi media protects the Jews, you are revealing a great deal about yourself.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 03, 2010, 08:57:31 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/01/rick-sanchez-fired-from-c_n_747607.html

He said that Jews aren't an oppressed minority like blacks or hispanics. You know what, Jews are NOT an oppressed minority. Jews work hard and get in a position of power from their own hard work. He said that while Jews today are not an oppressed minority he agreed Jews of Stewart's father's generation could definitely relate.

Chaim, what are you objecting to here? You are saying Jews are just like blacks or hispanics in America? That's a load of excrement. Comparing Jews as a minority to blacks/hispanics is ridiculous. It's like saying orientials or indian-asian people are minorities just like blacks/hispanics. He wasn't objecting to the fact that Jews are a minority, he was objecting to the fact that they aren't a "powerless" minority like blacks/hispanics. Really what he is saying is that Jews don't need help from the government like blacks/hispanics. What's wrong with that?

And what's wrong with acknowledging the truth that there are a disproportionate amount of Jews in the front offices of media companies compared to other peoples/minorities? It's not racist, it's the truth. While many are sick and self-hating, they got to their positions through hard work and not welfare/affirmative action. When someone says Jews control the media, Jews should say, "We don't control the media. We're just here because we work harder than you and are smarter. Why don't you cry about it some more?"

Chaim, the media portrays Jews as weak because in America a lot of Jews are like Woody Allen. That's why JTF isn't big and groups like the ADL/Bnai Brith have 10s of millions of dollars to help blacks. The majority are not strong, religious people. I disagree a thousand percent about the media being more against Jews than Christians. If you say anything even remotely anti-Semitic like Sanchez you're gone in a day but you can slander Christians all day and keep your job. If you wanna strawman me and say I said the media protects Jews, go for it. That shows a lot about you. Listen to the whole recording of what Sanchez said. In fact, it shows the self-hating Jewish mindset where the interviewer says Jews support the 9/11 mosque because they fear after the muslims are persecuted, the rest of America(re: CHRISTIANS) will inevitably come after the Jews next. How insane is that? I guess my bloodlust for religious minorities will not be sated with muslims I'll need to go after the Jews after. So stupid ridiculous.

It's sad that you're so willing to promote Jewish victimhood from one side of your mouth and preach Jewish strength from the other. So what's the appropriate way to combat someone like Sanchez if you think he is anti-Semitic? To fire him and put out a terse goodbye message to the media? Please. I ask this: If Jews are so hated by the media as you say, why does someone like Sanchez or Octavia Nasr(CNN person who tweeted in support of some hezbollah cleric) get fired the second they say something anti-Semitic? Why is that? I'm just asking.

It's sad that people are going after Sanchez when John Stewart gets off scot-free after doing a thousand times more damage to America and Jews in particular with his disgusting anti-American satire. All he does is indoctrinate people with far-left ideology that inevitably leads to anti-Semitism.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 03, 2010, 09:05:32 AM
This is a lie. The news media slanders Israel and the Jewish people day and night. They work relentlessly to help the Arab Muslim Nazis perpetrate a holocaust against 5.5 million Israeli Jews, G-d forbid. While the media is also anti-Christian, their incitement and hatemongering against the Jews far exceeds what they do to anyone else. The same is true in Hollywood: their portrayal of Jews as Woody Allen-type wimps is pure Nazi propaganda. By calling Sanchez's Nazi remarks "halfway anti-Semitic" and by claiming that the Nazi media protects the Jews, you are revealing a great deal about yourself.

Very good.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on October 03, 2010, 09:12:18 AM
Coon,

I think Chaim would agree with many of the points in your latter post.  Sanchez said that Jews aren't an oppressed minority, and implied that Jews are all in positions of power and have money.  To me, that was clear ( I listened to the interview).  This always bothers me because I know plenty of Jews that don't have money and live paycheck to paycheck.  It happens to be that, as you said, that many Jews work hard (or their parents did) and they get ahead in the world.  I agree with you that Christians are bashed in the media constantly and you're right that you can say anything you want about Christianity and no one seems to care except the Catholic League.   It's also true that Israel is the whipping boy of the media and Jews are blamed in many different media sources for all of the world's problem.  
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 03, 2010, 09:17:14 AM
Coon,

I think Chaim would agree with many of the points in your latter post.  Sanchez said that Jews aren't an oppressed minority, and implied that Jews are all in positions of power and have money.  To me, that was clear ( I listened to the interview).  This always bothers me because I know plenty of Jews that don't have money and live paycheck to paycheck.  It happens to be that, as you said, that many Jews work hard (or their parents did) and they get ahead in the world.  I agree with you that Christians are bashed in the media constantly and you're right that you can say anything you want about Christianity and no one seems to care except the Catholic League.   It's also true that Israel is the whipping boy of the media and Jews are blamed in many different media sources for all of the world's problem.  

Sanchez has the idiotic liberal mindset that minorities are still oppressed and need help from the government. I assume that's why he says "oppressed minority" in the first place. Taking that further, he says Jews are not an oppressed minority presumable like blacks/hispanics who nearly all liberals would say are considered oppressed. So again, what did Sanchez say was wrong? Are Jews "oppressed" and need government help like dumb blacks or hispanics? Of course not.

We are in agreement on most points, JTFEnthusiast. You are a voice of reason on the matter. Though I would disagree that Chaim would agree with anything I said. In fact, both he and his little yes-man imply I'm an anti-Semite in this matter. But hey, them's the breaks.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: muman613 on October 03, 2010, 09:22:32 AM
Coon,

I think Chaim would agree with many of the points in your latter post.  Sanchez said that Jews aren't an oppressed minority, and implied that Jews are all in positions of power and have money.  To me, that was clear ( I listened to the interview).  This always bothers me because I know plenty of Jews that don't have money and live paycheck to paycheck.  It happens to be that, as you said, that many Jews work hard (or their parents did) and they get ahead in the world.  I agree with you that Christians are bashed in the media constantly and you're right that you can say anything you want about Christianity and no one seems to care except the Catholic League.   It's also true that Israel is the whipping boy of the media and Jews are blamed in many different media sources for all of the world's problem.  

Sanchez has the idiotic liberal mindset that minorities are still oppressed and need help from the government. I assume that's why he says "oppressed minority" in the first place. Taking that further, he says Jews are not an oppressed minority presumable like blacks/hispanics who nearly all liberals would say are considered oppressed. So again, what did Sanchez say was wrong? Are Jews "oppressed" and need government help like dumb blacks or hispanics? Of course not.

It's a little sad to see Chaim and his little yes-man imply I'm an anti-Semite in this matter. But hey, them's the breaks.

It is obvious Sanchez is an antisemite... I don't know about you Coon...

Jews are the smallest minority in the world, smaller than Blacks, smaller than Mexicans... Jews account for almost .01% of the worlds population. Nobody can say that Jews are not a minority. Now who brings up 'Oppressed people'? There is no question that Jews have been oppressed in every generation, in every nation on the face of this earth. 2000+ years of oppression at the hands of the christians and muslims... We have suffered slavery, threats of extermination, destruction of our holy sites, Inquisitions and crusades, pogroms and holocausts.

If the non-Jewish members do not understand that I believe they are fooling themselves. Jews have been one of the MOST OPPRESSED people in this world. Antisemitism is not like any other ism, it has no real reason.


Sanchez should have been fired for his obviously antisemitic opinions.

BTW, I stopped watching Stewart over six years ago... I never liked his shtick... But I will not say that he deserved being the brunt of an antisemitic attack. Sanchez could have said something against stewart without bringing the Jewish issue into the picture..

Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: david1967 on October 03, 2010, 09:25:25 AM
It's true that John Stewart/Leibowitz is leftist, self-hating Jew that has done everything in his power to disassociate himself from Judaism.  Despite this, he is identified as Jewish by everyone.  This is the dillema and irony of self-hating Jews like Stewart and Woody Allen; The harder they try to dissassociate themselves from Judaism, the more they are identified as Jews.
In today's extreme P.C environment, any public denunciations of racism, anti-Semitism and statement considered to be religious bigotry, are dealt with harshly and severely by the extreme-left, mainstream media.  However, anti-Israel bashing is allowed and encouraged.  I do believe that far more latitude is allowed when it comes to criticizing Christianity.  Extreme Leftists view Christianity as one of the greatest evils on earth.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 03, 2010, 09:31:13 AM
It doesn't matter what a self-hating twerp Jon Stewart is. Nothing, nothing, nothing ever justifies making a Nazi statement like Sanchez made.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on October 03, 2010, 09:32:51 AM
בס''ד

1. You damn well that Sanchez is a Jew-hater and brought up phony "Jewish" issues because of his hatred, jealousy and resentment toward Jews. In your dishonest reply, you again try to create the impression that Sanchez was not motivated by anti-Semitism. In fact, you now say that Sanchez was actually complimenting the Jews for not being like blacks or Hispanics. You know that it is a lie.

Sanchez was claiming that the Jews get special unfair privileges, that there is discrimination in favor of the Jews, and yet they still whine as though they are a persecuted minority. What Sanchez is saying is precisely what the Nazis and the Muslims say about the Jews. The truth is the opposite: Jews are treated far worse than any other group - there is a concerted campaign for several decades to destroy the Jewish people by assisting the Arab Muslims in their war to destroy little Israel. No one could ever get a job as a journalist in the establishment media if he is truly pro-Israel or reports the simple truth about the Middle East. You are required to lie about Israel in order to undermine the struggle for Jewish survival if you want a job in the establishment media. You are not even allowed to fairly present the pro-Israel side. There is no hatred greater than that of individuals who work obsessively to bring about a holocaust against Israeli Jews.

2. People are automatically fired for anti-Semitism? The Nazi Pat Buchanan who wrote a book defending Hitler has been fired by NBC and General Electric? If he had written a book defending slavery, would he still have a job? If he had written a book simply quoting the Koran and exposing it, would he still have a job? Virtually of the journalists in the establishment media bash Israel with Nazi lies. Could they do the same thing to Africa or to the Muslims?

3. I am promoting Jewish victimhood? That means Jews should not defend themselves when they are under obsessive attack by a media that seeks their extermination? That is victimhood?

4. You say the media portrays Jews as weak because a lot of them are like Woody Allen. Does the media portray blacks as criminals (after all, a majority of black males have criminal records)? Does the media portray blacks and Arabs as stupid, ignorant and jealous losers (after all, that is what the overwhelming majority of them are)? Does the media portray the Arabs and the Muslims as supporters of genocide? Does the media even portray Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton or Barack Hussein Osama as racists and anti-Semites? The media and Hollywood portrayal of Jews is Nazi anti-Semitism.

5. Sanchez was fired because he insulted Jon Stewart, who is popular with the media because he is a leftist and because he is a self-hating Jewish anti-Semite. Oh yes, Jewish anti-Semites who betray and seek to destroy their own people are popular with the media.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 03, 2010, 09:33:09 AM
How the hell can anyone say Jews are an oppressed minority along the lines of blacks or hispanics?

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We have suffered slavery, threats of extermination, destruction of our holy sites, Inquisitions and crusades, pogroms and holocausts

Where the hell has any of this happened in America? Listen to what Sanchez said. Some of you need to improve your listening skills, for real. It's funny how Sanchez even said the older generation of Jews definitely were an oppressed minority yet nobody acknowledges that. I'm curious, muman. How were you oppressed as a Jew in your lifetime living in California which you still currently do in a high-paying computer field job that you were able to earn without government assistance? Explain to me because maybe I am missing something or don't understand your perspective.

And please don't say I'm throwing aside thousands of years of Jewish oppression because I'm not. I am simply putting it in terms of John Stewart's generation.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 03, 2010, 09:39:02 AM
2. People are automatically fired for anti-Semitism? The Nazi Pat Buchanan who wrote a book defending Hitler has been fired by NBC and General Electric? If he had written a book defending slavery, would he still have a job? If he had written a book simply quoting the Koran and exposing it, would he still have a job? Virtually of the journalists in the establishment media bash Israel with Nazi lies. Could they do the same thing to Africa or to the Muslims?

Yep. If the worst anti-Semite in America is gleefully employed by MSNBC and CNN, then how can it be claimed that the media only employs people who are pro-Jewish? This is the same old laughable Nazi lie ad nauseum. Don't forget about Geraldo Rivera (ys) and Fox also.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: mord on October 03, 2010, 09:46:26 AM
His show was being canceled in any event they have a new show with ex Gov Spitzer and some woman .Btw no one mentions Sanchez while DUI hit a guy with his car and killed him


http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/TLRMRML2J424655G7/p2   









Here is an article from the St Petersburg Times Feb 17th 1991:

LINK:
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/access/50...

ARTICLE EXERPT:
Quote:
A Miami television anchorman has been charged with driving under the influence of alcohol in a December accident in which police say he left the scene after hitting a man and returned later.

Rick Sanchez, anchor for WSVN, was charged Friday with one count of DUI, a first-degree misdemeanor in the Dec. 10 accident outside Joe Robbie Stadium, prosecutor Kathleen Hoague said.

If convicted, Sanchez faces a maximum of six months in prison and a $500 fine.

A blood test showed Sanchez had a blood-alcohol level that night of .15 percent. A person with a .10 level is considered legally drunk in Florida.

The man Sanchez hit was critically injured and remains in a coma at North Shore Hospital.

Ms. Hoague said Friday that she thinks Sanchez was driving drunk at the time of the accident, but prosecutors decided not to charge him with causing bodily injury while driving drunk, a third-degree felony.

"The victim came out of nowhere and walked right into his pathway," she said. "Sanchez was not speeding and would not have been able to avoid the accident."

After the accident, Sanchez, 32, drove home to retrieve his driver's license and insurance card.

Credit: Associated Press
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 03, 2010, 09:52:14 AM
I have no idea what Sanchez' motivation is in the matter. Looking at his past gaffes on his idiotic show he is probably partially retarded. I would definitely agree he is anti-Semitic but no worse than other scum in the media. He's just too dumb to keep his mouth shut. He contends Jews are not an oppressed minority like blacks or hispanics. Are we in disagreement with this? I suppose we can just agree to disagree on the matter. I don't feel Jews are a minority along the lines blacks/hispanics are just like orientals are asian-indians aren't simply because Jews/indian/orientals accomplish without government welfare and aren't lazy/dumb/complainy. We need to agree to disagree that Jews are an oppressed minority and that's fine. It's a mutual disagreement.

The media portrays Jews/Christians as evil or stupid because the left always favors an evil underdog because their moral compass is upside down. That's why they always make the black, muslim, arab, etc virtuous in all the television shows. It just so happens unfortunately that many self-hating Jews are portrayed in the media as they exist in the world. Definitely anti-Semitism plays a part in some portrayals like Law and Order making a rabbi who raped a black woman and in the case of Christians the beltway snipers being portrayed as a white Christian father/son duo.

I disagree and say Sanchez was fired for relating the idea that Jews control the media and not for calling Stewart a bigot. His comments about Jews running CNN and other networks was far more objectionable and bigoted.

I will say this. I think people are confusing pro-Israel and pro-Jewish. I know a great deal of self-hating Jews and regardless of whether they hate Israel or not, they still enjoy being amongst their fellow Jews. We all know a lot of self-hating Jews disagree that being pro-Jewish and pro-Israel are the same thing. Look at groups like JStreet for instance that are most made up of Jewish members yet they hate Israel. So in that case they are still Jews yet anti-zionist. While the self-hating Jews who help run media networks(not just them, gentiles as well) definitely promote anti-Israel hatred, they likely don't see the connection between supporting Israel and being pro-Jewish. So when someone like Sanchez makes a comment against Jews they feel it is an attack on them as Jews and take action against it. Though at the same time someone like Sanchez on his show could say things against Israel and they wouldn't bat an eyelash.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on October 03, 2010, 10:05:45 AM
Sanchez is a typical fool who probably believed that his "minority status" background would assure him a successful career in the media industry.

Instead, he found himself swimming in shark infested seas where the most vicious, lying, and sociopathic sexual deviants (usually talentless) rise to the top by betraying anyone naive enough to trust them.

What idiots fail to recognize is that "the Jews controlling the media" whom they so envy and resent, got to where they are by cutting the throats of other Jews.

Sanchez's "world view" reveals his incredible naivety in thinking that Jews are some kind of monolithic "guaranteed success private club" with each Jew giving a 'hand up' to all other Jews.

Sanchez has been a sardine swimming with sharks.

He should go back home, work for a local newspaper or television station, and consider himself lucky that "he got out while the getting was good".
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: david1967 on October 03, 2010, 10:23:38 AM
How did Sanchez get away with that DUI death in 1991?  He must have had connections with the district attorney?  I guess he was able to hide this fact in those pre-internet days?  Either that, or he could say: "You're not hiring me because I'm Hispanic."  TV stations were afraid of this, so they hired him. 
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on October 03, 2010, 10:40:41 AM
The Coon:  "He contends Jews are not an oppressed minority like blacks or hispanics. Are we in disagreement with this? I suppose we can just agree to disagree on the matter. "

The reason that this argument is flawed is because an ethnic minority is not defined by their economic status or overall achievement level, but only by their being a member of an ethnic minority group.  Period.

Furthermore, an ethnic minority group member can be deemed socially unacceptable by the majority population, be reviled, despised, and excluded from activities and memberships in organizations based strictly on their ethnicity or religious affiliation, and yet still become accomplished in their field of work and achieve a high standard of living.

Being a top NBA star of African or Hispanic descent does not in and of itself make you welcome at exclusive Country Clubs or welcome to move into all white neighborhoods, regardless of your income level, and becoming internationally recognized as a famous Jewish screen star or doctor or lawyer doesn't mean that you're no longer considered a "G-  D  - dirty Jew" by non-Jewish members of a majority population harboring an extreme dislike for Jews.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Aces High on October 03, 2010, 11:15:08 AM
I could care less if Jews control the media but the fact he got fired a day after making these comments makes it look like he was absolutely right. You can slander Christians all day on the major liberal networks but when one of their employees dares mention something halfway anti-Semitic like Sanchez. I'm glad someone finally went after that piece of excrement John Stewart who has done so much damage to America by rotting the minds of young people with his garbage.

Coon-What you said here is standard Nazi Propoganda, course a.  This lie is the building block and the part of the foundation for another holocaust againt the Jews.  This exact lie was used against the Jews in Germany which eventually lead to the Jewish Holocaust.  It makes me wonder what your intentions are when you say, "I could care less if Jews control the media but the fact he got fired a day after making those comments makes it look like he was abolutely right."  And then you play the Christian card, and say, " You can slander Christians all day on the majot liberal networks but when one of their employees dares mention something halfway antisemitic....."

I hope you realize Chaim wasn't going  let you get away with that, that unchallenged, on a Jewish forum.

Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 03, 2010, 11:36:57 AM
I could care less if Jews control the media but the fact he got fired a day after making these comments makes it look like he was absolutely right. You can slander Christians all day on the major liberal networks but when one of their employees dares mention something halfway anti-Semitic like Sanchez. I'm glad someone finally went after that piece of excrement John Stewart who has done so much damage to America by rotting the minds of young people with his garbage.

Coon-What you said here is standard Nazi Propoganda, course a.  This lie is the building block and the part of the foundation for another holocaust againt the Jews.  This exact lie was used against the Jews in Germany which eventually lead to the Jewish Holocaust.  It makes me wonder what your intentions are when you say, "I could care less if Jews control the media but the fact he got fired a day after making those comments makes it look like he was abolutely right."  And then you play the Christian card, and say, " You can slander Christians all day on the majot liberal networks but when one of their employees dares mention something halfway antisemitic....."

I hope you realize Chaim wasn't going  let you get away with that, that unchallenged, on a Jewish forum.


Well I apologize in advance for setting the ground work for the 2nd holocaust then. Let's not exaggerate too much, shall we. I didn't realize what I said was akin to calling Jews subhuman rodents like the nazis did. Thanks for enlightening me.

What a bizarre individual.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Aces High on October 03, 2010, 11:41:45 AM
I could care less if Jews control the media but the fact he got fired a day after making these comments makes it look like he was absolutely right. You can slander Christians all day on the major liberal networks but when one of their employees dares mention something halfway anti-Semitic like Sanchez. I'm glad someone finally went after that piece of excrement John Stewart who has done so much damage to America by rotting the minds of young people with his garbage.

Coon-What you said here is standard Nazi Propoganda, course a.  This lie is the building block and the part of the foundation for another holocaust againt the Jews.  This exact lie was used against the Jews in Germany which eventually lead to the Jewish Holocaust.  It makes me wonder what your intentions are when you say, "I could care less if Jews control the media but the fact he got fired a day after making those comments makes it look like he was abolutely right."  And then you play the Christian card, and say, " You can slander Christians all day on the majot liberal networks but when one of their employees dares mention something halfway antisemitic....."

I hope you realize Chaim wasn't going  let you get away with that, that unchallenged, on a Jewish forum.


Well I apologize in advance for setting the ground work for the 2nd holocaust then. Let's not exaggerate too much, shall we. I didn't realize what I said was akin to calling Jews subhuman rodents like the nazis did. Thanks for enlightening me.

What a bizarre individual.

Don't get carried away with yourself,  you're not important enough to set the ground work for another holocaust.  But  your small enough to help spread a lie. 
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 03, 2010, 11:55:12 AM
It's sad how some posters throw the word nazi around to the point where it has almost lost all meaning.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Aces High on October 03, 2010, 12:00:55 PM
It's sad how some posters throw the word nazi around to the point where it has almost lost all meaning.

Look, just watch what you type here.  The head of our movement questions your motives as well.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: muman613 on October 03, 2010, 12:09:23 PM
Look,

Sanchez is an antisemite and it is evident in what he said. I cannot believe anyone here would defend what he said and try to rationalize that he was just talking about elite liberal Jews. The myth that all Jews control the media and they are evil and trying to claim they are oppressed is simply the same old antisemitic lies which we have heard for many years. While the Jewish people are blamed for Jews like Stewart, who has no real love of his Jewish heritage, and who regularly lampoons Judaism and Israel, we are also blamed for being too hawkish on Israel and on trying to keep our children Jewish in the diaspora. Jews are always caught in the crossfire of national events.

I will rebuke Sanchez for his antisemitic rant. I will also rebuke John Stewart for his weak Jewish identity. If only Stewart was more comfortable with his Jewish heritage he could be so much funnier.

Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Rubystars on October 03, 2010, 01:36:20 PM
Stewart might be funny if he didn't take every opportunity to attack Christian people and Christian beliefs.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 03, 2010, 02:11:27 PM
Look,

Sanchez is an antisemite and it is evident in what he said. I cannot believe anyone here would defend what he said and try to rationalize that he was just talking about elite liberal Jews. The myth that all Jews control the media and they are evil and trying to claim they are oppressed is simply the same old antisemitic lies which we have heard for many years. While the Jewish people are blamed for Jews like Stewart, who has no real love of his Jewish heritage, and who regularly lampoons Judaism and Israel, we are also blamed for being too hawkish on Israel and on trying to keep our children Jewish in the diaspora. Jews are always caught in the crossfire of national events.

I will rebuke Sanchez for his antisemitic rant. I will also rebuke John Stewart for his weak Jewish identity. If only Stewart was more comfortable with his Jewish heritage he could be so much funnier.

At the same time though, many of us(Jews and gentiles) have said things against self-hating Jews that could be construed as anti-Semitic by an outsider. But I'd definitely say Sanchez is too stupid and too unaware to make any distinction.

CNN will hopefully take this time to reflect on who they hire. It looks funny for them to have to fire a minority anchor for anti-Semitic comments after they spend every waking hour attacking the Tea Party or ministers like Terry Jones for being racists and wackos.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on October 03, 2010, 02:12:34 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/01/rick-sanchez-fired-from-c_n_747607.html

He said that Jews aren't an oppressed minority like blacks or hispanics. You know what, Jews are NOT an oppressed minority. Jews work hard and get in a position of power from their own hard work. He said that while Jews today are not an oppressed minority he agreed Jews of Stewart's father's generation could definitely relate.

Chaim, what are you objecting to here? You are saying Jews are just like blacks or hispanics in America? That's a load of excrement. Comparing Jews as a minority to blacks/hispanics is ridiculous. It's like saying orientials or indian-asian people are minorities just like blacks/hispanics. He wasn't objecting to the fact that Jews are a minority, he was objecting to the fact that they aren't a "powerless" minority like blacks/hispanics. Really what he is saying is that Jews don't need help from the government like blacks/hispanics. What's wrong with that?

And what's wrong with acknowledging the truth that there are a disproportionate amount of Jews in the front offices of media companies compared to other peoples/minorities? It's not racist, it's the truth. While many are sick and self-hating, they got to their positions through hard work and not welfare/affirmative action. When someone says Jews control the media, Jews should say, "We don't control the media. We're just here because we work harder than you and are smarter. Why don't you cry about it some more?"

Chaim, the media portrays Jews as weak because in America a lot of Jews are like Woody Allen. That's why JTF isn't big and groups like the ADL/Bnai Brith have 10s of millions of dollars to help blacks. The majority are not strong, religious people. I disagree a thousand percent about the media being more against Jews than Christians. If you say anything even remotely anti-Semitic like Sanchez you're gone in a day but you can slander Christians all day and keep your job. If you wanna strawman me and say I said the media protects Jews, go for it. That shows a lot about you. Listen to the whole recording of what Sanchez said. In fact, it shows the self-hating Jewish mindset where the interviewer says Jews support the 9/11 mosque because they fear after the muslims are persecuted, the rest of America(re: CHRISTIANS) will inevitably come after the Jews next. How insane is that? I guess my bloodlust for religious minorities will not be sated with muslims I'll need to go after the Jews after. So stupid ridiculous.

It's sad that you're so willing to promote Jewish victimhood from one side of your mouth and preach Jewish strength from the other. So what's the appropriate way to combat someone like Sanchez if you think he is anti-Semitic? To fire him and put out a terse goodbye message to the media? Please. I ask this: If Jews are so hated by the media as you say, why does someone like Sanchez or Octavia Nasr(CNN person who tweeted in support of some hezbollah cleric) get fired the second they say something anti-Semitic? Why is that? I'm just asking.

It's sad that people are going after Sanchez when John Stewart gets off scot-free after doing a thousand times more damage to America and Jews in particular with his disgusting anti-American satire. All he does is indoctrinate people with far-left ideology that inevitably leads to anti-Semitism.

Well

Jews I believe are oppressed due to affirmative action.  
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Zelhar on October 03, 2010, 02:23:25 PM
Blacks and Hispanicks aren't oppressed minorities. Blacks in particular have unfair educational and employment advantages but they generally fail to utilize them to advance themselves. But that is really not the point of what Sanchez said. He was pissed about Stewart and he slipped with a generic anti-semitic accusation that Jews control the media which is a lie. Also I take note that even though John Stewart is an assimilated self hating Jew and doesn't represent Jews or Judaism at all, Mr Sanchez lashed out against all the Jews because he has a personal score to settle with Mr Stewart.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: AsheDina on October 03, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
http://www.fastcompany.com/1566018/crib-sheet-prince-alwaleed

IS NOT A JEW:

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Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: lines on October 03, 2010, 04:45:53 PM
I listened to the Sanchez audio and I found it bizarre how he actually seems to believe he isn't white. He mentioned how he wouldn't get promoted to positions white people would get promoted to. Sanchez is hispanic but he is clearly a white hispanic... not that it really matters it's just weird how he doesn't seem to realize it.

Prince Alwaleed is a major investor in fox news, I find him to be very interesting. The story of the Saudis is kinda amazing. I think at one time in there lineage they were living as nomads.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 03, 2010, 04:55:13 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/01/rick-sanchez-fired-from-c_n_747607.html

He said that Jews aren't an oppressed minority like blacks or hispanics. You know what, Jews are NOT an oppressed minority. Jews work hard and get in a position of power from their own hard work. He said that while Jews today are not an oppressed minority he agreed Jews of Stewart's father's generation could definitely relate.

Chaim, what are you objecting to here? You are saying Jews are just like blacks or hispanics in America? That's a load of excrement. Comparing Jews as a minority to blacks/hispanics is ridiculous. It's like saying orientials or indian-asian people are minorities just like blacks/hispanics. He wasn't objecting to the fact that Jews are a minority, he was objecting to the fact that they aren't a "powerless" minority like blacks/hispanics. Really what he is saying is that Jews don't need help from the government like blacks/hispanics. What's wrong with that?

In what way are blacks and hispanics "powerless?"    And what sets them apart for special treatment not given to other minorities such as Indians, Asians, or Jews?

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And what's wrong with acknowledging the truth that there are a disproportionate amount of Jews in the front offices of media companies compared to other peoples/minorities? It's not racist, it's the truth. While many are sick and self-hating, they got to their positions through hard work and not welfare/affirmative action. When someone says Jews control the media, Jews should say, "We don't control the media. We're just here because we work harder than you and are smarter. Why don't you cry about it some more?"


Maybe what you don't realize is that the three major news corporations are owned by non-Jews.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 03, 2010, 04:56:43 PM
John Stewart is one of the worst self-hating Jews in America and he is brainwashing the younger generation into not caring about the problems that America faces. He's making them think everything is a joke and nothing is serious. Basically making people stupid so the little elitists can pass whatever the deleted they want. The damage this animal has done is unbelievable. He is also the kind of Jew who causes anti-Semitism by acting like a little worm piece of drek.

Sanchez was spot on with that piece of excrement Stewart, who is one of the sorriest excuses for Judenrat scum on the face of the planet. I hope he dies of cancer and his soul is obliterated in the bowels of hell.
There was no reason for him to say that Jews control the media and are "not a minority" though.

Exactly.  1-2% of the population is < 50% and therefore a minority.   For the affirmative action products visiting the forum, that < symbol means "less than"
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 03, 2010, 05:01:14 PM
Coon,

I think Chaim would agree with many of the points in your latter post.  Sanchez said that Jews aren't an oppressed minority, and implied that Jews are all in positions of power and have money.  To me, that was clear ( I listened to the interview).  This always bothers me because I know plenty of Jews that don't have money and live paycheck to paycheck.  It happens to be that, as you said, that many Jews work hard (or their parents did) and they get ahead in the world.  I agree with you that Christians are bashed in the media constantly and you're right that you can say anything you want about Christianity and no one seems to care except the Catholic League.   It's also true that Israel is the whipping boy of the media and Jews are blamed in many different media sources for all of the world's problem.  

Sanchez has the idiotic liberal mindset that minorities are still oppressed and need help from the government. I assume that's why he says "oppressed minority" in the first place. Taking that further, he says Jews are not an oppressed minority presumable like blacks/hispanics who nearly all liberals would say are considered oppressed. So again, what did Sanchez say was wrong? Are Jews "oppressed" and need government help like dumb blacks or hispanics? Of course not.

It's a little sad to see Chaim and his little yes-man imply I'm an anti-Semite in this matter. But hey, them's the breaks.

It is obvious Sanchez is an antisemite... I don't know about you Coon...

Jews are the smallest minority in the world, smaller than Blacks, smaller than Mexicans... Jews account for almost .01% of the worlds population. Nobody can say that Jews are not a minority. Now who brings up 'Oppressed people'? There is no question that Jews have been oppressed in every generation, in every nation on the face of this earth. 2000+ years of oppression at the hands of the christians and muslims... We have suffered slavery, threats of extermination, destruction of our holy sites, Inquisitions and crusades, pogroms and holocausts.

If the non-Jewish members do not understand that I believe they are fooling themselves. Jews have been one of the MOST OPPRESSED people in this world. Antisemitism is not like any other ism, it has no real reason.


Muman, it's not fair to associate Coon's comments with any other member here, Jewish or non-Jewish.  You make it sound like because Coon said one thing, there's a whole chorus of people on the forum who speak similarly or hold the same views.   I don't really see that is the case here.  With the rest of your comment I of course agree.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: muman613 on October 03, 2010, 05:22:14 PM
Coon,

I think Chaim would agree with many of the points in your latter post.  Sanchez said that Jews aren't an oppressed minority, and implied that Jews are all in positions of power and have money.  To me, that was clear ( I listened to the interview).  This always bothers me because I know plenty of Jews that don't have money and live paycheck to paycheck.  It happens to be that, as you said, that many Jews work hard (or their parents did) and they get ahead in the world.  I agree with you that Christians are bashed in the media constantly and you're right that you can say anything you want about Christianity and no one seems to care except the Catholic League.   It's also true that Israel is the whipping boy of the media and Jews are blamed in many different media sources for all of the world's problem.  

Sanchez has the idiotic liberal mindset that minorities are still oppressed and need help from the government. I assume that's why he says "oppressed minority" in the first place. Taking that further, he says Jews are not an oppressed minority presumable like blacks/hispanics who nearly all liberals would say are considered oppressed. So again, what did Sanchez say was wrong? Are Jews "oppressed" and need government help like dumb blacks or hispanics? Of course not.

It's a little sad to see Chaim and his little yes-man imply I'm an anti-Semite in this matter. But hey, them's the breaks.

It is obvious Sanchez is an antisemite... I don't know about you Coon...

Jews are the smallest minority in the world, smaller than Blacks, smaller than Mexicans... Jews account for almost .01% of the worlds population. Nobody can say that Jews are not a minority. Now who brings up 'Oppressed people'? There is no question that Jews have been oppressed in every generation, in every nation on the face of this earth. 2000+ years of oppression at the hands of the christians and muslims... We have suffered slavery, threats of extermination, destruction of our holy sites, Inquisitions and crusades, pogroms and holocausts.

If the non-Jewish members do not understand that I believe they are fooling themselves. Jews have been one of the MOST OPPRESSED people in this world. Antisemitism is not like any other ism, it has no real reason.


Muman, it's not fair to associate Coon's comments with any other member here, Jewish or non-Jewish.  You make it sound like because Coon said one thing, there's a whole chorus of people on the forum who speak similarly or hold the same views.   I don't really see that is the case here.  With the rest of your comment I of course agree.


Yes I agree... It is just that I have recently been talking with someone about antisemitism and they were being defensive about it. They did not want to acknowledge that there is a long history of Jews being abused in various countries around the world. While it is definitely true that the Jewish people have thrived in America, economically and in politics, it is also true that the Jewish 'nation' has not fared too well in the great melting pot of America.

My family has done quite well, but we have certainly been ravaged by assimilation. It is very difficult to maintain the Jewish faith in a land which doesn't provide basic Jewish necessities such as kosher food, mikvahs, and yeshivas. Yes, there are some communities which have sprouted up here and there in America, but they are few and far between.

I am not saying all non-Jews are not understanding of the hardships which the Jewish people saw in every land. And my family worked damn hard to make a living here, nothing was handed to them by the 'zionist entity', and virtually all of them experienced antisemitism in some way during their life. We have much to be thankful for, that we have some very compassionate and understanding gentiles who want to assist the Jewish people in returning to our land.


Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 03, 2010, 05:37:26 PM
How the hell can anyone say Jews are an oppressed minority along the lines of blacks or hispanics?

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We have suffered slavery, threats of extermination, destruction of our holy sites, Inquisitions and crusades, pogroms and holocausts

Where the hell has any of this happened in America? Listen to what Sanchez said. Some of you need to improve your listening skills, for real. It's funny how Sanchez even said the older generation of Jews definitely were an oppressed minority yet nobody acknowledges that.  

When people say things about my people that aren't true, I consider that a form of oppression.  Daily the media says untrue things about Jews to the point that people like you even start to believe their claims.  Claiming that Jews are not a minority even though we are actually 1% or so of the population IS oppression.   It is a byproduct of affirmative action and how affirmative action from day 1 was designed to destroy the Jewish community and its members.   Affirmative action was for BLACKS, NOT for Jews.  Jews actually lost their jobs because of affirmative action which wasn't really for minorities, but for certain minorities.   Now, when people today consider Jews not to be a minority, it's repeating the same historical american injustice to the Jews.  It's a continuation of the crime by insisting that only blacks are considered a minority and Jews aren't.  The translation is - Jews should lose their jobs and they should be given to blacks.   Blacks and hispanics should be hired over Jews.  That's what it means when one insists that Jews are not a minority.

I would love to know why I'm having such a hard time finding a job even though I have 3+ years experience in my field with publications to my name and all of these places claim online that they are hiring.   Could it perhaps be because I spent significant time in Israel studying in yeshiva in the recent past (on my resume obviously) and I show up to interviews wearing a kippa?   There is NO DOUBT IN MY MIND.   In one interview, I wasn't even given a chance and basically sent home (they called me out there for nothing basically) - what other than physical appearance can elicit such a radical loss of interest so rapidly from one day to the next upon seeing me in person?  

To say that only past generations of Jews were oppressed is something only a non-Jew could say because you simply don't experience it.  A very delusional non-Jew with wishful thinking and/or deception.   My mother is relatively young and certainly is NOT a generation older than jon stewart - She has worked with people who wanted to know where her horns were when they found out she was Jewish.   She worked for one evil b!tch in a company that dealt with a major Israeli tech company and this evil wench used to say after returning from board meetings in Israel that she needs to take a shower to wipe the "heeb" off of her body.  This piece of garbage did not know my mother is Jewish!  
Jews have much to be proud of and there are even Orthodox Jews who wear their identity on their sleeve so to speak and yet have integrated into many fields and many professions over the past decades in the proliferation of orthodoxy that has recently taken place, yet to say antisemitism doesn't exist in america is saying bears don't sh*t in the woods.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on October 03, 2010, 05:43:16 PM
Re:  "The story of the Saudis is kinda amazing. I think at one time in there lineage they were living as nomads. "

Yes and not all that long ago.

And to a great extent the mindset of the restless Arabian nomad roaming the desert, stealing his needs from his neighbor, and committing wild acts of violence, remains deeply ingrained in them.

Just as most modern Jews seem unable to remove themselves from the mindset of the weak, oppressed, eternal victim of the European Jewish ghetto and shtetl  - always dependent on the approval and pity of Europeans and The Vatican for its continued existence.

Both peoples owe their emergence into modern nationhood to the unexpected consequences resulting from the decline of the British Empire.

There's much truth to the old adage "Opposites attract - Likes repel."
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on October 03, 2010, 07:17:55 PM
Jews are the most oppressed minority in America.

Blacks, who are around 14% of the US population, were targeted in hate crimes 2,876 times in 2008.

Jews, who are around 2% of the US population, were targeted in hate crimes 1,013 times in 2008.

The math is simple.

Also in comparison,

Muslims, who are around 2% of the US population [nearly the same exact size as the Jewish population], were targeted in hate crimes [only] 105 times in 2008 [Amazing, considering all the terrorism Muslims commit, and for all their hate speech against the rest of the US population!].

As has been mentioned before in this thread, blacks are given the red carpet treatment in Affirmative Action, college enrollment, racial quotas, getting their tuchis kissed, etc, despite being much less of a minority than Jews [14% compared to 2%]. -- Whether it be getting attacked in the streets, or help/scholarship getting into college, the black man comes out on top better than the Jew.  It is only through hard work [and the love of G-d] the Jew accomplishes anything; if there is a minority more hated than the Jew in America I have yet to hear of them.

And while many people think most Jews are wealthy, Jewish poverty is a serious problem in the Jewish community.  A Jew in poverty suffers twice; once for being impoverished, and twice for the assumption that he is an all-powerful "international banker who controls the world and media" who deserves no help.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on October 03, 2010, 07:27:05 PM
Coon,

I think Chaim would agree with many of the points in your latter post.  Sanchez said that Jews aren't an oppressed minority, and implied that Jews are all in positions of power and have money.  To me, that was clear ( I listened to the interview).  This always bothers me because I know plenty of Jews that don't have money and live paycheck to paycheck.  It happens to be that, as you said, that many Jews work hard (or their parents did) and they get ahead in the world.  I agree with you that Christians are bashed in the media constantly and you're right that you can say anything you want about Christianity and no one seems to care except the Catholic League.   It's also true that Israel is the whipping boy of the media and Jews are blamed in many different media sources for all of the world's problem.  

Sanchez has the idiotic liberal mindset that minorities are still oppressed and need help from the government. I assume that's why he says "oppressed minority" in the first place. Taking that further, he says Jews are not an oppressed minority presumable like blacks/hispanics who nearly all liberals would say are considered oppressed. So again, what did Sanchez say was wrong? Are Jews "oppressed" and need government help like dumb blacks or hispanics? Of course not.

It's a little sad to see Chaim and his little yes-man imply I'm an anti-Semite in this matter. But hey, them's the breaks.

It is obvious Sanchez is an antisemite... I don't know about you Coon...

Jews are the smallest minority in the world, smaller than Blacks, smaller than Mexicans... Jews account for almost .01% of the worlds population. Nobody can say that Jews are not a minority. Now who brings up 'Oppressed people'? There is no question that Jews have been oppressed in every generation, in every nation on the face of this earth. 2000+ years of oppression at the hands of the christians and muslims... We have suffered slavery, threats of extermination, destruction of our holy sites, Inquisitions and crusades, pogroms and holocausts.

If the non-Jewish members do not understand that I believe they are fooling themselves. Jews have been one of the MOST OPPRESSED people in this world. Antisemitism is not like any other ism, it has no real reason.


Sanchez should have been fired for his obviously antisemitic opinions.

BTW, I stopped watching Stewart over six years ago... I never liked his shtick... But I will not say that he deserved being the brunt of an antisemitic attack. Sanchez could have said something against stewart without bringing the Jewish issue into the picture..
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I agree with you Muman.  Unfortunately, he played the "jew" card on Jon Stewart, when he could have just played any number of a**h**e cards
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 03, 2010, 09:22:58 PM
I never liked Thunderbolt/The Coon. I wonder if he really is a "coon".
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on October 04, 2010, 05:57:26 AM
Stewart might be funny if he didn't take every opportunity to attack Christian people and Christian beliefs.

You know Ruby, I never liked him even when I was a liberal.  In the past few years when I have seen glimpses of his show while channel surfing, he is inevitably putting someone else down in the most arrogant haughty way.  By the way he's short ( I've seen him on the street many times in NYC) and many other things......

 :::D
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 04, 2010, 07:25:55 AM
I never liked Thunderbolt/The Coon. I wonder if he really is a "coon".

Well the feeling is mutual, seeing as all you've ever added to this forum is one-line parroting agreements to whatever Chaim says and posting useless gossip column information on Eminem or Katy Perry.

For the record, if this individual wants to say I might be a black man, I'm going to respond in kind.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: IsraeliGovtAreKapos on October 04, 2010, 07:39:15 AM
I'm not surprised that our Black member says the same thing white Neo Nazi David Duke says.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Yaakov Mendel on October 04, 2010, 07:58:10 AM
Stewart might be funny if he didn't take every opportunity to attack Christian people and Christian beliefs.

You know Ruby, I never liked him even when I was a liberal.  In the past few years when I have seen glimpses of his show while channel surfing, he is inevitably putting someone else down in the most arrogant haughty way.  By the way he's short ( I've seen him on the street many times in NYC) and many other things......

 :::D

Stewart is very anti-Israel. I remember coming across his television show during operation Cast Lead, he was saying that the media networks in America were blatantly pro-Israel ! How can anyone claim that CNN is blatantly pro-Israel ? It is exactly the opposite !
Stewart is a complacent, worthless, corrupt individual whose only achievement in life is to make a lot of money by pretending to be funny. He has no principles, no values, he will mock anything or anyone as long as it goes with the prevailing tide of opinion, to make sure his pay check keeps increasing.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: TheCoon on October 04, 2010, 08:02:12 AM
What Stewart is doing has nothing to do with his Jewishness. He's just an evil person who is actively dumbing down the youth of America. Instead of finding solutions to the problems, he just laughs them off and encourages people to not take the situation seriously. This would be OK if he were simply a comedian, but both he and his fans use him as a source of news! People trust him for their daily news and think he's not biased.

He relentlessly attacks Israel, republicans, Christians, etc because his liberal drone viewers want to keep living in la-la land.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on October 04, 2010, 08:43:55 AM
Now that comedy and music no longer really exist, and have been replaced with "anything goes and they think it's good", why don't we just go ahead and have a rebirth of gladiatoral combat to the death and call it "entertainment"?

The greatest thing anyone can do for their mind, body, and soul is TURN OFF YOUR TELEVISION!

Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 04, 2010, 09:23:32 AM
Rick Sanchez is the Latino Sobran.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on October 04, 2010, 09:57:28 AM
Re:  "I never liked Thunderbolt/The Coon. I wonder if he really is a "coon".

We don't have the luxury of "liking" or "disliking" other members in JTF.

All that should matter is whether that individual is "friend" or "foe" / "ally" or "enemy" of the Jewish People and JTF.

Personality clashes belong somewhere else.

Everyone here is a headstrong stubborn nutcase or we wouldn't be here in the first place.

It's much easier to get along with everybody if you take the "Kumbaya singing" mindset of "Jerk Street" with idiots who "reach out" to "dialogue" with "others" to reach "concensus".
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 04, 2010, 09:59:45 AM
muslims and self haters control the media...
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 04, 2010, 10:45:19 AM
I never liked Thunderbolt/The Coon.

Were you intending to say this to someone by private message?
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: briann on October 04, 2010, 11:07:46 AM
Obviously Judaism is a religious minority by definition, but why Does rick make a point of denying this fact?  Why does it make a difference one way or another?

Are there any liberals here who can explain why this is such an important point?

Also, I don't think that CNN firing him is gonna help anything.  Its just gonna make Hispanics believe there is a giant Jewish Media 'Cabal', and whenever a 'real' minority speaks against it, they are fired.  And this in spite of CNN's hideously anti-Jew anti-Israel Bias.


Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Rubystars on October 04, 2010, 02:44:43 PM
Sanchez is hispanic but he is clearly a white hispanic... not that it really matters it's just weird how he doesn't seem to realize it.

He might just have a lot of white mixture but also be of another race too. A lot of Cubans are mixed race.

Obviously Judaism is a religious minority by definition, but why Does rick make a point of denying this fact?  Why does it make a difference one way or another?

Well obviously he has some kind of resentment toward them. If someone has a chip on their shoulder, they will show it eventually.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 04, 2010, 07:16:39 PM
Massuh, The Coon has been saying borderline anti-Semitic things for a while now. Remember a couple weeks ago when he said that Obama was elected entirely because of Jews? That is on top of just plain stupid things he says like "Pat Buchanan has good policies except for Israel" and "Rand Paul would still be better than any Democrat."

Why does JTF need people like that?
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on October 04, 2010, 07:47:51 PM
Re:  "Why does JTF need people like that? "

I guess so you can better educate them!

There is a very serious problem everyone encounters when using the written word to convey their thoughts, and this is usually because the every day language of spoken conversation doesn't translate well when put down in writing.

I believe that this is the primary cause of most interpersonal conflicts on the forum.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: muman613 on October 04, 2010, 07:51:34 PM
Re:  "Why does JTF need people like that? "

I guess so you can better educate them!

There is a very serious problem everyone encounters when using the written word to convey their thoughts, and this is usually because the every day language of spoken conversation doesn't translate well when put down in writing.

I believe that this is the primary cause of most interpersonal conflicts on the forum.

I don't agree with your conclusion. I believe that most communication problems on the Internet are due to the fact that most people who post to the forum, or to talkbacks, never learned how to write effectively. When I was a child it was important to learn how to write so that readers will be able to understand what you are writing. Over the years I noticed that the young people of today are unable to put together a persuasive essay the way we used to do it when I was in school.

Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 04, 2010, 07:58:01 PM
Re:  "Why does JTF need people like that? "

I guess so you can better educate them!

There is a very serious problem everyone encounters when using the written word to convey their thoughts, and this is usually because the every day language of spoken conversation doesn't translate well when put down in writing.

I believe that this is the primary cause of most interpersonal conflicts on the forum.
What is difficult to understand about the statements of his that I cited?
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on October 04, 2010, 08:15:58 PM
Re:  "What is difficult to understand about the statements of his that I cited? "

I can't speak for him, but it would be very common for someone to be thinking about all the people with Jewish surnames in the Obama entourage, and all the same like that who are big Dem supporters, and then when putting it in writing write down that "They're the reason he even got elected".

Do you understand what I mean?

Not only that, but sometimes I myself write statements and opinions which could easily be misconstrued as "anti-Semitic" just because they might be insulting to many Jews who read them.

I actually have met some Jews who considered even the slightest criticism of any Jew for any reason to be "anti-Semitic.

And related to that mindset is another equally bizarre way of thinking in which all to many Jews need only to see a few Jewish surnames following W Bush around or throwing parties for Obama in order to immediately tell themselves and all who will listen "He's good or he wouldn't have so many smart Jews around him, so I'm voting for him", or "That guy's obviously pro-Jewish and will get my vote".

I personally don't believe The Coon to be hostile to Jews.

He may be hostile to "some Jews", but then again so am I.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on October 04, 2010, 08:33:38 PM
Muman,

You make another good point.  In my first career, I was a writer.  When I came online, I noticed how the English language was itself was being degraded.  Fifteen or so years later, I, too, am part of the problem.  My fingers move quickly, but the editing mechanism, so essential for effective written communication, has gone right out the window; much like the baby and the bathwater.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: IsraelForever on October 04, 2010, 10:59:40 PM
Once someone starts talking about "Jewish control" of the media, then, for me, they are automatically anti-semites.  I don't know who Rich Sanchez is, but I'm glad he got fired.  He also is, obviously, not too bright.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: muman613 on October 04, 2010, 11:03:32 PM
Re:  "What is difficult to understand about the statements of his that I cited? "

I can't speak for him, but it would be very common for someone to be thinking about all the people with Jewish surnames in the Obama entourage, and all the same like that who are big Dem supporters, and then when putting it in writing write down that "They're the reason he even got elected".

Do you understand what I mean?

Not only that, but sometimes I myself write statements and opinions which could easily be misconstrued as "anti-Semitic" just because they might be insulting to many Jews who read them.

I actually have met some Jews who considered even the slightest criticism of any Jew for any reason to be "anti-Semitic.

And related to that mindset is another equally bizarre way of thinking in which all to many Jews need only to see a few Jewish surnames following W Bush around or throwing parties for Obama in order to immediately tell themselves and all who will listen "He's good or he wouldn't have so many smart Jews around him, so I'm voting for him", or "That guy's obviously pro-Jewish and will get my vote".

I personally don't believe The Coon to be hostile to Jews.

He may be hostile to "some Jews", but then again so am I.

Massuh is an equal opportunity hater... No group gets away unscathed...

Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 04, 2010, 11:15:54 PM
Once someone starts talking about "Jewish control" of the media, then, for me, they are automatically anti-semites.  I don't know who Rich Sanchez is, but I'm glad he got fired.  He also is, obviously, not too bright.
Yep.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on October 05, 2010, 12:01:40 AM
Re:  "No group gets away unscathed... "

At least I'm no bigot!     :::D
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 05, 2010, 01:13:43 AM
I'm still curious as to why Coon posts on a Jewish forum.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on October 05, 2010, 05:49:47 PM
I'm still curious as to why Coon posts on a Jewish forum.

To lure Jews into his clutches, because The Coon needs Jewish blood to make leaven bread during the Passover holiday!
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on October 05, 2010, 06:29:42 PM
Guys,

Please stop.  I just re-read every single post on this thread and had to say I agreed with almost all of you.  I wonder how that's even possible, then I realize you are not all saying very different things.  Coon is not Rick Sanchez and he's not that idiot punk Stewart.  I don't find Coon's perceptions to be very off the mark.  I dislike Jon Stewart immensely.  Coon is correct with respect to Jon Stewart's arrogance, his self-hating nature, and his indoctrination of youth to encourage a 'f you' attitude towards anything normative and good.  Jon Stewart hates Israel and is proud of it.  He never stops advertising it.  He's just a gross disgusting vile self-hating Jew. 
     Chaim and others are also right, Sanchez is a Jew hater, and frankly he was sick and tired of listening to that pusilanimous twit, Stewart, give him a good working over for free.  You know sometimes payback is a b*tch period.  Does that mean anti-semitism is ever right?   Of course not, it does mean that sometimes though you should think twice before being a deliberate 'ahol' to others  What's unfortunate is that Sanchez was too stupid to think for a minute and go after Stewart for his awful behavior, instead of his religious identity--which I remind you all--he hates and goes out of his way to slight and every single chance he gets.   That said, Sanchez was playing dirty, said evil things that affect all Jews (and not just Stewart, YSV).
    I agree with Massa, I do not find Coon's attitude to be so horrendous. Coon was overly clear in the ways he thought Sanchez had a point and NOT.  He didn't say anything that all of us who are Jews here have thought and said.  I'm sorry folks, but he didn't.  Coon also went out of his way to explain why Jews are not like Blacks and Hispanics in general, as demographic groups.
   I think sometimes people who are not part of a group do not realize exactly the kinds of pressures that people within the group are.  I absolutely agree with Muman and Chaim that this country hates Jews and discriminates against us.  It doesn't seem that way in the media for exactly the reason Coon cites--but it is.  Having a non-Jewish last name, I have heard more than I ever would have known about how people really feel about Jews and it makes me sick.  It doesn't mean that everyone who isn't familiar with the daily pressures of living in a Jew's body is 'evil' or a 'nazi.'  It just doesn't.  If I were down and out as a Jew, I think Coon would help me, and I feel that way about most of the Gentiles on this forum.  And if they wouldn't folks...it's on them.  By the way, how many of us Jews feel that way about other Jews on this forum?  Just a thought.
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: muman613 on October 05, 2010, 06:38:21 PM
I am also inclined to give Stewart a pass on this one. His JOB is to be a comedian, and comedians often make fun of other people. I do not think that the Daily Show is evil, it is just off the mark. I have seen the Daily Show mock both Democrats and Republicans, and it usually has to do with dumb things which politicians do. I have not seen any viciously anti-Israel material on the show {although as I said before I have not watched the show in over six years}...

Sanchez was a dirtbag for trying to make this into a Jewish issue.

And JTFEnthusiast2... I feel Ahavat Yisroel for every Jew here... Can you name one whom I have a long-running feud with?
Title: Re: CNN's Rick Sanchez fired for anti-semitic inferences towards Jon Stewart
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on October 05, 2010, 06:51:31 PM
I am also inclined to give Stewart a pass on this one. His JOB is to be a comedian, and comedians often make fun of other people. I do not think that the Daily Show is evil, it is just off the mark. I have seen the Daily Show mock both Democrats and Republicans, and it usually has to do with dumb things which politicians do. I have not seen any viciously anti-Israel material on the show {although as I said before I have not watched the show in over six years}...

Sanchez was a dirtbag for trying to make this into a Jewish issue.

And JTFEnthusiast2... I feel Ahavat Yisroel for every Jew here... Can you name one whom I have a long-running feud with?

Muman, respectfully, I was not referring to you here,

I have rarely seen the Daily Show (prob less than 20 times in it's long run), but I saw a clip from it recently (as well as others) where he cajoled the crowd into an anti-Israeli fervor, saying sarcastically, "yeah because God forbid you say anything bad about Israel (hahahaha) in the media and blah blah blah...."  To which he received a kind of enthusiastic applause, you would have expected in Nuremberg 1935. So what's the lesson here: he can take apart his own people and taunt others, but he's a little B. when it comes to taking his come uppins, isn't he?  We don't get to choose our come uppins in life.  You behave like a nasty pr**K to others and you have good reason to have to watch your ....  Just saying. 

And yes, you are absolutely right, Sanchez is a dirtbag for making it a Jewish issue.