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Title: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Yochanan on December 29, 2010, 04:52:41 AM
Please help by reporting just about everything on this Jew hating channel.

On the main channel page there are 2 links on the bottom to report the background images

Please flag the videos = "This video promotes hatred of Jews and incites violence and hatred against Jews!"

One could also flag copyright probs as these are taken seriously as well

http://www.youtube.com/user/JEWSSUXBABYDICKS
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on December 29, 2010, 05:23:04 AM
Flagged.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: mord on December 29, 2010, 07:22:46 AM
done go ro his mainpage and go to comments then click to those postersthey have worse flag them also
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on December 29, 2010, 09:19:03 PM
But, the videos are not HIS?? Sent to my YT friends for flagging
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Confederate Kahanist on December 29, 2010, 09:27:22 PM
But, the videos are not HIS??

That's what I was thinking. 
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lisa on December 29, 2010, 09:34:39 PM
Flagged.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Yaacov Ben Yehuda on December 29, 2010, 10:01:14 PM
flagged him.. but i must say i'm a bit repulsed by the metziza custom...and i'm a practicing Jew. I personally would rather have a tube used for my babies, rather then a mohels mouth...kinda gross when u really think about it.. no?
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on December 29, 2010, 10:07:10 PM
flagged him.. but i must say i'm a bit repulsed by the metziza custom...and i'm a practicing Jew. I personally would rather have a tube used for my babies, rather then a mohels mouth...kinda gross when u really think about it.. no?

Someone else made the same comment on that video!!
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: muman613 on December 29, 2010, 10:08:05 PM
flagged him.. but i must say i'm a bit repulsed by the metziza custom...and i'm a practicing Jew. I personally would rather have a tube used for my babies, rather then a mohels mouth...kinda gross when u really think about it.. no?

And there are those who are entirely against giving a baby a bris.... This is the next step of the antisemite...

Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Yaacov Ben Yehuda on December 29, 2010, 10:14:53 PM
flagged him.. but i must say i'm a bit repulsed by the metziza custom...and i'm a practicing Jew. I personally would rather have a tube used for my babies, rather then a mohels mouth...kinda gross when u really think about it.. no?

And there are those who are entirely against giving a baby a bris.... This is the next step of the antisemite...



well i'm certainly not against a bris chas ve shalom!  but theres been cases of babies contracting herpes and other diseases from the saliva contact with his wound.  i'm ceertainly all for brit mila's, but if theres a more hygenic method available then why not?
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on December 29, 2010, 11:56:24 PM
flagged him.. but i must say i'm a bit repulsed by the metziza custom...and i'm a practicing Jew. I personally would rather have a tube used for my babies, rather then a mohels mouth...kinda gross when u really think about it.. no?

Personally I agree.   Maybe people were less refined in the old days?   Or didn't worry about stuff like this (unlike dainty modern day "suburbanite" types)?   I don't know, but either way, I do know that using a tube is halachically acceptable also.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: TruthSpreader on December 30, 2010, 02:14:38 PM
Done. I've reported his background image.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 30, 2010, 05:11:56 PM
And there are those who are entirely against giving a baby a bris.... This is the next step of the antisemite...
And Yaacov implied that he is against circumcision how?
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: muman613 on December 30, 2010, 05:40:51 PM
And there are those who are entirely against giving a baby a bris.... This is the next step of the antisemite...
And Yaacov implied that he is against circumcision how?

DBF,

I want to believe you are an intelligent human being, but facts seem to get in the way.

I never implied that he was against circumcision. I made a comment that some people are against circumcision and they are usually antisemites. Here in San Francisco one such person was lobbying to create a law which made circumcision illegal in the San Francisco bay area. Luckily this did not materialize.

Please read what I say, not what you think I say...

Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 30, 2010, 05:48:34 PM
The entire claim that mohels suck the blood out of young baby boys and give them herpes is a Nazi lie.

You know that.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: White Israelite on December 30, 2010, 07:16:28 PM
First of all, circumcision is understandable, however there is nothing in Torah that says a Rabbi is to use their mouth to perform the circumcision. I've never even heard of such a case and if I was a parent, I wouldn't allow it by any means.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 30, 2010, 07:59:11 PM
The only people who talk about this "custom" are Nazis.
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Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on December 30, 2010, 09:11:23 PM
The entire claim that mohels suck the blood out of young baby boys and give them herpes is a Nazi lie.

You know that.

Uhh.   What?

Let's review the facts:    Some mohels do suck the blood from the wound afterwards.
There have been one or two cases in millions where the mohel actually did have herpes and the baby got it from the mohel.     Fact.

The odds certainly are not high, but IMO, even one or two cases are unnecessary if it is halachically permissible to use a tube anyway.   Because of the widespread diseases these days,  I would prefer to go with a mohel who uses a tube.   Plus I generally find it a little strange.

But you're right that non-Jews (or Jews for that matter) who make videos about "rabbi-conspiracy" to spread herpes are of course nazis
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 30, 2010, 09:23:38 PM
Uhh.   What?

Let's review the facts:    Some mohels do suck the blood from the wound afterwards.
There have been one or two cases in millions where the mohel actually did have herpes and the baby got it from the mohel.     Fact.

The odds certainly are not high, but IMO, even one or two cases are unnecessary if it is halachically permissible to use a tube anyway.   Because of the widespread diseases these days,  I would prefer to go with a mohel who uses a tube.   Plus I generally find it a little strange.
The only people I have ever heard making the oral-sucking claim are WN/Muslim Nazis. But even if it actually does exist, it has been confirmed that using a tube is completely valid. So why did somebody insinuate that opposing oral sucking of the foreskin blood is a slippery slope to anti-Semitic banning of circumcision?
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on December 30, 2010, 09:28:14 PM
Uhh.   What?

Let's review the facts:    Some mohels do suck the blood from the wound afterwards.
There have been one or two cases in millions where the mohel actually did have herpes and the baby got it from the mohel.     Fact.

The odds certainly are not high, but IMO, even one or two cases are unnecessary if it is halachically permissible to use a tube anyway.   Because of the widespread diseases these days,  I would prefer to go with a mohel who uses a tube.   Plus I generally find it a little strange.
The only people I have ever heard making the oral-sucking claim are WN/Muslim Nazis.

No, it's called metzitzah b'peh.  It is for removing the blood from the wound. 

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But even if it actually does exist, it has been confirmed that using a tube is completely valid. So why did somebody insinuate that opposing oral sucking of the foreskin blood is a slippery slope to anti-Semitic banning of circumcision?

Probably because of the antisemitic youtube video that was made on this subject which was the account in question brought up in this thread, until it was removed.    If you would have seen it, you would understand.  It was nazi propaganda.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 30, 2010, 09:31:20 PM
I know that it was Nazi propaganda, hence I said "the only people who talk about this are Nazis".
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on December 30, 2010, 09:34:51 PM
To clarify what I'm saying here, I prefer not to go this route because of the medical concerns and my own personal preference.   The tube is preferred IMO.   That said, it is an ancient custom, and I would not be "against" it for anyone else to do it, it's their choice.   The only way I would be against it and say others should not do it is if they had some kind of scientific evidence that it's unhealthy for the baby to have metzitzah b'peh vs a tube.    I don't think anyone has done any study on it or is doing any.     I would tend to think it is harmless just as the circumcision itself.   
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 30, 2010, 09:40:26 PM
To clarify what I'm saying here, I prefer not to go this route because of the medical concerns and my own personal preference.   The tube is preferred IMO.   That said, it is an ancient custom, and I would not be "against" it for anyone else to do it, it's their choice.   The only way I would be against it and say others should not do it is if they had some kind of scientific evidence that it's unhealthy for the baby to have metzitzah b'peh vs a tube.    I don't think anyone has done any study on it or is doing any.     I would tend to think it is harmless just as the circumcision itself.   
Yaacov Ben Yehuda said exactly what you said right here and Muman immediately replied with the implication that opposing the oral sucking in any way is a slippery slope to banning circumcision.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on December 30, 2010, 11:19:47 PM
Ok.  And?

I don't oppose it.  I tried to make that clear.

If someone opposes it, yes, they are probably antisemitic.  What business is it of theirs to oppose people doing that?
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 30, 2010, 11:22:29 PM
He didn't say "I oppose circumcision", he said he would much prefer doing it the tube way.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on December 31, 2010, 01:16:42 AM
 ???

Now you are just talking in circles.

I never accused Yaakov of anything!   
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: muman613 on December 31, 2010, 01:21:26 AM
To clarify what I'm saying here, I prefer not to go this route because of the medical concerns and my own personal preference.   The tube is preferred IMO.   That said, it is an ancient custom, and I would not be "against" it for anyone else to do it, it's their choice.   The only way I would be against it and say others should not do it is if they had some kind of scientific evidence that it's unhealthy for the baby to have metzitzah b'peh vs a tube.    I don't think anyone has done any study on it or is doing any.     I would tend to think it is harmless just as the circumcision itself.  
Yaacov Ben Yehuda said exactly what you said right here and Muman immediately replied with the implication that opposing the oral sucking in any way is a slippery slope to banning circumcision.

DBF,

I doubt you completed High School because your ability to comprehend and recall information seems to be sorely lacking.

I did not say anything about the particular act of 'sucking the blood' orally or otherwise.

I said this:

And there are those who are entirely against giving a baby a bris.... This is the next step of the antisemite...


Where do you get that I said anything about the oral sucking. I simply make a comment that there are those who are looking for reasons to oppose circumcision in order to damage the Jewish peoples ability to pass on the Brit/Covenant. Try reading what I wrote a couple more times before hitting the reply button.

Testing if the last modified is working?
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on December 31, 2010, 01:26:34 AM
off topic, but I noticed that the posts no longer indicate when they have been modified.   I always thought that was a useful tool.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: muman613 on December 31, 2010, 01:32:35 AM
off topic, but I noticed that the posts no longer indicate when they have been modified.   I always thought that was a useful tool.  Oh well.

It works, but only after someone has read the post {I think}...

Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 31, 2010, 01:48:45 AM
Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right-BT
Now you are just talking in circles.

I never accused Yaakov of anything!
Umm... when did I accuse you of anything? We were talking about Muman here; see below

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,51993.msg489619.html#msg489619

flagged him.. but i must say i'm a bit repulsed by the metziza custom...and i'm a practicing Jew. I personally would rather have a tube used for my babies, rather then a mohels mouth...kinda gross when u really think about it.. no?

And there are those who are entirely against giving a baby a bris.... This is the next step of the antisemite...

If he was not personally addressing YBY for saying "kinda gross", I don't know who he was.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: muman613 on December 31, 2010, 01:58:38 AM
Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right-BT
Now you are just talking in circles.

I never accused Yaakov of anything!
Umm... when did I accuse you of anything? We were talking about Muman here; see below

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,51993.msg489619.html#msg489619

flagged him.. but i must say i'm a bit repulsed by the metziza custom...and i'm a practicing Jew. I personally would rather have a tube used for my babies, rather then a mohels mouth...kinda gross when u really think about it.. no?

And there are those who are entirely against giving a baby a bris.... This is the next step of the antisemite...

If he was not personally addressing YBY for saying "kinda gross", I don't know who he was.

I think you have your brain-wires crossed... There was nothing implying Yaakov was wrong. I was simply saying that those who raise issue with circumcision are usually antisemites. And nobody here disagrees with that... But you want to imply that I was insulting Yaakov... Unfortunately you are grasping for straws.
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on December 31, 2010, 02:03:22 AM
Fine. I admit that I forged that post and quote of yours. OK?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: muman613 on December 31, 2010, 03:04:38 AM
Fine. I admit that I forged that post and quote of yours. OK?  :laugh:

Whatever...

You have basic reading comprehension problems DBF... I have quoted what I said several times in this thread and nowhere in what I said did I say anything derogatory, nor did I imply, about Yaakov... You have an issue which you really need to address...

BTW, Yaakov, are you still reading this thread? Do you feel I said anything negative about your comment? I would like to know your opinion on this topic. DBF is so concerned about how you took my comment..

Title: Re: Let's bring this channel down!
Post by: muman613 on December 31, 2010, 03:08:36 AM
DBF,

In trying to understand what you are talking about maybe you misread what I said...

When I said 'This is the next step of the antisemite' I was not referring to anything which Yaakov or anyone else said... I was saying that those who oppose circumcision are antisemites and they will agitate against the practice in many ways, this complaint about the Moyhel sucking the blood orally is one of them. Again, I was not commenting on Yaakovs opinion, I was making a statement on top of what he was saying.