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Save Western Civilization => Save Serbia => Topic started by: crnitrn on February 14, 2011, 07:29:24 PM
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http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/palestinians-willing-to-give-temple-mount-to-the-pope/
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Ватикан је највећи српски непријатељ.
The Vatican is the biggest enemy of the Serbs.
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The Vatican keeps condemning Israel and siding with the Arabs.
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True shame!!
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I don't quite understand this article. What's the shaychus between Christianity and Islam?
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I don't quite understand this article. What's the shaychus between Christianity and Islam?
Not Christianity and Islam , but Pope -Vatican - Roman Catholic and Islam are very connected !
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Not Christianity and Islam , but Pope -Vatican - Roman Catholic and Islam are very connected !
Aren't most of you guys Roman-Catholic? My knowledge on sects of goyishkeit is kind of sucky.....
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Aren't most of you guys Roman-Catholic? My knowledge on sects of goyishkeit is kind of sucky.....
Serbs are not Catholic , we are ORTHODOX Christians and our biggest enemy is pope and his followers !!! And we are not some sect !! It is insulting! If you want to talk about serbs and they religion ,I suggest you to do learn something about us!
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Serbs are not Catholic , we are ORTHODOX Christians and our biggest enemy is pope and his followers !!! And we are not some sect !! It is insulting! If you want to talk about serbs and they religion ,I suggest you to do learn something about us!
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Serbs are not Catholic , we are ORTHODOX Christians and our biggest enemy is pope and his followers !!! And we are not some sect !! It is insulting! If you want to talk about serbs and they religion ,I suggest you to do learn something about us!
Sorry, I didn't realize this was the Serbia section... I thought it was the general section. My ignorance on the subject - - - although including Serbs - - - was meant as Christianity as a whole. I thought the Pope was the leader of all Christians, sort of how like Rav Elyashiv, lehavdil, is looked at as the gadol hador in Judaism. Please forgive me for my ignorance and not realizing this was the Serbian section.
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:::D
Something funny???I can't see that somebody else laughing!
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Sorry, I didn't realize this was the Serbia section... I thought it was the general section. My ignorance on the subject - - - although including Serbs - - - was meant as Christianity as a whole. I thought the Pope was the leader of all Christians, sort of how like Rav Elyashiv, lehavdil, is looked at as the gadol hador in Judaism. Please forgive me for my ignorance and not realizing this was the Serbian section.
No Pope is one big scum who over 16 century trying to convert serbs into Roman Catholics !!! No single sect produced by Orthodox Church in the history, except one sect called by name Roman Catholic Church! All sects and churches are incurred from Roman Catholic Church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S.
Orthodox Churches don't have central leadership every Orthodox nation have they own church leader - Patriarch!
But today left only three true Orthodox Churches they are Serbian,Russian and Georgian! And this Churches are under the huge pressure to recognize pope for leader of Christianity like did other Orthodox Churches (ecumenical movement)! Because of that all Orthodox Churches(and its people) are divided on two sides ecumenical and anti-ecumenical! Biggest problem is that people dont know what is truly or dont know anything at all about Ecumenism ! When one person realize the true about this that person becomes a fierce anti-ecumenist!
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Something funny???I can't see that somebody else laughing!
Sometimes people can't see the forest through all the trees. :o
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No Pope is one big scum who over 16 century trying to convert serbs into Roman Catholics !!! No single sect produced by Orthodox Church in the history, except one sect called by name Roman Catholic Church! All sects and churches are incurred from Roman Catholic Church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S.
Orthodox Churches don't have central leadership every Orthodox nation have they own church leader - Patriarch!
But today left only three true Orthodox Churches they are Serbian,Russian and Georgian! And this Churches are under the huge pressure to recognize pope for leader of Christianity like did other Orthodox Churches (ecumenical movement)! Because of that all Orthodox Churches(and its people) are divided on two sides ecumenical and anti-ecumenical! Biggest problem is that people dont know what is truly or dont know anything at all about Ecumenism ! When one person realize the true about this that person becomes a fierce anti-ecumenist!
Subjective and a matter of opinion!
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Subjective and a matter of opinion!
(http://najvecetajne.yolasite.com/resources/ispiranje%20mozga.jpg?timestamp=1295469457265)
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Sometimes people can't see the forest through all the trees. :o
Would you show me that forest please!!!
I can not wait to hear your defending words for vatican!
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Subjective and a matter of opinion!
Well, the fact is there was a division in 1054. Rome changed almost everything in Christian theology, so union with Rome was not possible. Roman "Christianity" is completely different to Christian Orthodoxy. That's why we have a name as "Orthodox", meaning as not changed or originally. Although, there was certain smaller changes, but the essence is not changed which cannot be said for Vatican.
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(http://najvecetajne.yolasite.com/resources/ispiranje%20mozga.jpg?timestamp=1295469457265)
Wow ... Great find.... You hit the nail right on the head ;D...The picture you posted depicts just how I feel when I read the various Vatican threads posted from time to time :read:....
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Well, the fact is there was a division in 1054. Rome changed almost everything in Christian theology, so union with Rome was not possible. Roman "Christianity" is completely different to Christian Orthodoxy. That's why we have a name as "Orthodox", meaning as not changed or originally. Although, there was certain smaller changes, but the essence is not changed which cannot be said for Vatican.
I have no argument with what your saying here...This is not what I was calling 'Subjective and a matter of opinion!'
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Would you show me that forest please!!!
I can not wait to hear your defending words for vatican!
Na... You know the old saying about the horse and the water... As far as defending the Vatican its not my job they have a few billion people that might be far better at it than I to do that.
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Wow ... Great find.... You hit the nail right on the head ;D...The picture you posted depicts just how I feel when I read the various Vatican threads posted from time to time :read:....
What i wanted to say was that you were washing your brain to much.
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Na... You know the old saying about the horse and the water... As far as defending the Vatican its not my job they have a few billion people that might be far better at it than I to do that.
Then dont you speak about something that you cant understand! I can confute anybody about Vatican and his "good goals". If here comes pope himself ,I can confute him, he is just a dirty pagan!! Yes there is a billion fools walking around thinking how pope is good man. Reason of that is because they do not use brain, they are to much at work,so that can pay they credit, eat, sleep and rest of time they do sex or think about sex and money! They are to busy to think about religion, he just go to church do some church's ritual, pay for forgiveness of sins and he think that is enough and that is the ticket to haven! They are to busy to think about God! Honor for the rare exceptions,but that exception does not recognize the Pope!! :)
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Then dont you speak about something that you cant understand! I can confute anybody about Vatican and his "good goals". If here comes pope himself ,I can confute him, he is just a dirty pagan!! Yes there is a billion fools walking around thinking how pope is good man. Reason of that is because they do not use brain, they are to much at work,so that can pay they credit, eat, sleep and rest of time they do sex or think about sex and money! They are to busy to think about religion, he just go to church do some church's ritual, pay for forgiveness of sins and he think that is enough and that is the ticket to haven! They are to busy to think about G-d! Honor for the rare exceptions,but that exception does not recognize the Pope!! :)
I am starting to see why the " Vatikan" deals with some people as it does... Since I can't understand you and all your problems I wont bother "confuting" with you any further... I have some rituals to keep and I have to raise some payola for the forgiveness of some sins after all we all can't be as perfect as the orthodox... Bless your heart my friend don't let the Pope get to you so much...
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I am starting to see why the " Vatikan" deals with some people as it does... Since I can't understand you and all your problems I wont bother "confuting" with you any further... I have some rituals to keep and I have to raise some payola for the forgiveness of some sins after all we all can't be as perfect as the orthodox... Bless your heart my friend don't let the Pope get to you so much...
Orthodox are not perfect but are much better than Papists (primarily talking about Serbs) keep live in the the Pope's dream! when you wake up one morning and realize that you outgrow the tail, and you have a beard and horns will be to late!!!
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Then dont you speak about something that you cant understand! I can confute anybody about Vatican and his "good goals". If here comes pope himself ,I can confute him, he is just a dirty pagan!! Yes there is a billion fools walking around thinking how pope is good man. Reason of that is because they do not use brain, they are to much at work,so that can pay they credit, eat, sleep and rest of time they do sex or think about sex and money! They are to busy to think about religion, he just go to church do some church's ritual, pay for forgiveness of sins and he think that is enough and that is the ticket to haven! They are to busy to think about G-d! Honor for the rare exceptions,but that exception does not recognize the Pope!! :)
That is a confute? :::D
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Orthodox are not perfect but are much better than Papists (primarily talking about Serbs) keep live in the the Pope's dream! when you wake up one morning and realize that you outgrow the tail, and you have a beard and horns will be to late!!!
Too late. He already has a horn and a beard.
Neither one a result of his religion. :P
crnitrn - you don't know of what you speak. Stop telling other people that they don't understand. You're confute is too one sided.
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That is a confute? :::D
That is summarized i simplified true! I dont have time to write details. but i can easy to write the huge book!
Let we see what popes and his priests have done through the history(excluding whoredom,sodomy,homosexuality and baby drowning in the pool of monastery)!
quick and brief overview:
- Crusades as an excuse for the devastation, the destruction of Orthodox countries, Palestine and the holy city of Jerusalem! Killing raping and theft!
- Forced Christianization of people by Roman Catholic Church!
- Killing out and persecution of many Jews, Serbs, and other nation not suitable for the Christianization by Roman Catholic Church!
- Killing out and persecution of Protestants,
- Inquisition !!!
- Jesuits (strongest and bloodiest secret society)
- Support and helping out to Hitler comes to power, hiding of Nazi criminals
- Proclamation of Saint Aloysius Stepinac,
He has organized and personally participated in killing of Jews and Serbs, as they did many of his and other Catholic priests and monks throughout the world! For example, like the nuns who led a camp for Serbian and Jewish children "Jastrebarsko", and how they were tortured and killed there!
- Vatican's Bank, biggest and richest bank in the world without control and revision, Mafia do money laundering with this bank!
- atonement for forgiveness of sins from priest. (Only G-d can forgive!!!)
- Adoration of the Virgin Mary (idolatry)
- Pope calls himself Holy Father (profanity)!Pope calls himself G-d's son deputy! Chief Minister! By what right? Prue profanity!
but since we're here to see an interesting feature:
You all know Roman numerals (I = 1, V = 5, X = 10, L = 50, C = 100 D = 500).
Pope on the crown says "Vicarius Fili Dei" (G-d's son, deputy). And now:
V + I + C + A + R + I + U + S
5 +1 +100 +0 +0 +1 +5 +0 = 112
F + I + L + I + I
0 +1 +50 +1 +1 = 53
D + E + I
500 +0 +1 = 501
112 +53 +501 = 666
But the Pope has more titles: DUX CLERIS (Chief Minister)
D + U + X
500 +5 +10 = 515
C + L + E + R + I + S
100 +50 +0 +0 +1 +0 = 151
515 +151 = 666
LATINVS REX Sacerdos
the same story ... 666th
There is no mathematical chance to be a coincidence! more likely that a few times in a row you get 7 hits on the lottery!
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crnitrn...you miss the point.
I'm not going to argue about the Roman Catholic Church, the pope or it's history here.
THIS IS THE JEWISH TASK FORCE. It's not a Catholic or Serbian forum. We are just members here. Part of a GROUP!
How does all that you just posted make me your enemy and who are you to question my faith in G-d? That is what I would like you to confute.
How dare you tell me I only spend money and have sex! That I have no time to think about my faith and have a relationship with G-d. That doesn't make your argument.
That just makes you sound ignorant.
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crnitrn...you miss the point.
I'm not going to argue about the Roman Catholic Church, the pope or it's history here.
THIS IS THE JEWISH TASK FORCE. It's not a Catholic or Serbian forum. We are just members here. Part of a GROUP!
How does all that you just posted make me your enemy and who are you to question my faith in G-d? That is what I would like you to confute.
How dare you tell me I only spend money and have sex! That I have no time to think about my faith and have a relationship with G-d. That doesn't make your argument.
That just makes you sound ignorant.
Pope is the Satan's follower, like you that or not!
You can Think anything that you want, i said the true and i also said there is a exceptions in the Catholic world ! there is a good Catholics,especially among those who do not recognize the Pope !
however this question is not set by me !
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Pope is the Satan's follower, like you that or not!
You can Think anything that you want, i said the true and i also said there is a exceptions in the Catholic world ! there is a good Catholics,especially among those who do not recognize the Pope !
however this question is not set by me !
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:o Satan's Pope ... Na, we don't like that.... :::D One thing I have noticed over the years its never the Roman Catholics that have a problem with the Orthodox its always the Orthodox [censored] and moaning about the RCC... If you some of you didn't piss and moan we would not even know your splinter group of churches existed.... You really should consider getting a pope of your own to get thing organized :laugh: If you see some pigeons hanging around you from now on they most likely are being sent by "Satan's Pope" to keep an eye on things... If you honestly believe all the nasty cr-p you write you will have no problem believing that ;D My apologies in advance to some of our more reasonable Orthodox people.
(http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2009/04/01/spy-pigeon_rycNm_1292.jpg)
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:o The Pope sent out the top pigeon of his spy 'flock'. Things are getting serious.
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Pope is the Satan's follower, like you that or not!
You can Think anything that you want, i said the true and i also said there is a exceptions in the Catholic world ! there is a good Catholics,especially among those who do not recognize the Pope !
however this question is not set by me !
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Oh, well. If it's the true, it's the true...but it sounds like a lot of B.S. to me.
Still, I'm too busy to think about the true. You know. Working to raise 'payola' to sin is hard work. Still, it's fun running up credit and cavorting around. ::)
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Ватикан је највећи српски непријатељ.
The Vatican is the biggest enemy of the Serbs.
The Vatican is the biggest enemy of humanity.Even my catholic friends can't stand the pope and his puppets (the cardinals).
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Serbs are not Catholic , we are ORTHODOX Christians and our biggest enemy is pope and his followers !!! And we are not some sect !! It is insulting! If you want to talk about serbs and they religion ,I suggest you to do learn something about us!
I believe he didn't mean to insult you.In Judaism,the proper term for the different denominations is sects.
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The Vatican is totally left wing Fabian Socialist, its totally under the control of the Masonic Lodges. All that got exposed years ago through David Yallops investigation which can be read in his book called "In Gods name." There was a big scandal with the P2 Masonic Lodge in Italy, that involved the vatican, the Masonic Lodges have also taken over the Jewish Establishment so they can make the Jewish Establishment retarded and left wing.
Just read the history of Annie Besant, she is a Prophet to the Fabian Socialists and Marxists, and she also was a developer of many Masonic Lodges in England, and she was also a leader in the Theosophical Society (A Masonic organization). Its no coincidence Annie Besant was a leader in the Fabian Socialist institution, aswell as being a leader in a prominent Masonic group called the Theosophical Society. The left spreads two ways, through overt left wing marxist groups, however it also spreads through Masonic Lodges by stealth, so politicians running in right wing parties will carry a left wing agenda into their administration. If a politician has links to Freemasonry, but has no history of being involved in a Marxist organization, then the public will vote him in thinking he is right wing, as he has no links or history with leftist groups. However his indoctrination into the left happened in the Masonic Lodges. Masonic Lodges are all over Israel and in most Western countries, so its clearly obvious why Israel and the West contantly implement left wing policies.
Everyone voted Ariel Sharon into office thinking he was right wing, then he pulls out of Gush Kutif and shows his true left wing marxist colors.
Unfortunately the vatican has been taken over and the Popes decisions and policies are not Biblical but rather in accordance with the left wing agenda.
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:o Satan's Pope ... Na, we don't like that.... :::D One thing I have noticed over the years its never the Roman Catholics that have a problem with the Orthodox its always the Orthodox [censored] and moaning about the RCC... If you some of you didn't piss and moan we would not even know your splinter group of churches existed.... You really should consider getting a pope of your own to get thing organized :laugh: If you see some pigeons hanging around you from now on they most likely are being sent by "Satan's Pope" to keep an eye on things... If you honestly believe all the nasty cr-p you write you will have no problem believing that ;D My apologies in advance to some of our more reasonable Orthodox people.
(http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2009/04/01/spy-pigeon_rycNm_1292.jpg)
Poor little Pope! These crazy Orthodox it so threatening? Well they are not normal!
deny this and we can speak !
- Crusades as an excuse for the devastation, the destruction of Orthodox countries, Palestine and the holy city of Jerusalem! Killing raping and theft!
- Forced Christianization of people by Roman Catholic Church!
- Killing out and persecution of many Jews, Serbs, and other nation not suitable for the Christianization by Roman Catholic Church!
- Killing out and persecution of Protestants,
- Inquisition !!!
- Jesuits (strongest and bloodiest secret society)
- Support and helping out to Hitler comes to power, hiding of Nazi criminals
- Proclamation of Saint Aloysius Stepinac,
He has organized and personally participated in killing of Jews and Serbs, as they did many of his and other Catholic priests and monks throughout the world! For example, like the nuns who led a camp for Serbian and Jewish children "Jastrebarsko", and how they were tortured and killed there!
- Vatican's Bank, biggest and richest bank in the world without control and revision, Mafia do money laundering with this bank!
- atonement for forgiveness of sins from priest. (Only G-d can forgive!!!)
- Adoration of the Virgin Mary (idolatry)
- Pope calls himself Holy Father (profanity)!Pope calls himself G-d's son deputy! Chief Minister! By what right? Prue profanity!
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And now, by special request song for cjd and bullcat3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js1VR51LRIs
I'm so bliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind!
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Poor little Pope! These crazy Orthodox it so threatening? Well they are not normal!
deny this and we can speak !
- Crusades as an excuse for the devastation, the destruction of Orthodox countries, Palestine and the holy city of Jerusalem! Killing raping and theft!
- Forced Christianization of people by Roman Catholic Church!
- Killing out and persecution of many Jews, Serbs, and other nation not suitable for the Christianization by Roman Catholic Church!
- Killing out and persecution of Protestants,
- Inquisition !!!
- Jesuits (strongest and bloodiest secret society)
- Support and helping out to Hitler comes to power, hiding of Nazi criminals
- Proclamation of Saint Aloysius Stepinac,
He has organized and personally participated in killing of Jews and Serbs, as they did many of his and other Catholic priests and monks throughout the world! For example, like the nuns who led a camp for Serbian and Jewish children "Jastrebarsko", and how they were tortured and killed there!
- Vatican's Bank, biggest and richest bank in the world without control and revision, Mafia do money laundering with this bank!
- atonement for forgiveness of sins from priest. (Only G-d can forgive!!!)
- Adoration of the Virgin Mary (idolatry)
- Pope calls himself Holy Father (profanity)!Pope calls himself G-d's son deputy! Chief Minister! By what right? Prue profanity!
You are correct. The Vatican is so corrupt its unbelievable, they are definitely an illuminati masonic organization. The Pope does not represent G-d at all, he represents evil
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The Vatican is totally left wing Fabian Socialist, its totally under the control of the Masonic Lodges. All that got exposed years ago through David Yallops investigation which can be read in his book called "In Gods name." There was a big scandal with the P2 Masonic Lodge in Italy, that involved the vatican, the Masonic Lodges have also taken over the Jewish Establishment so they can make the Jewish Establishment retarded and left wing.
Just read the history of Annie Besant, she is a Prophet to the Fabian Socialists and Marxists, and she also was a developer of many Masonic Lodges in England, and she was also a leader in the Theosophical Society (A Masonic organization). Its no coincidence Annie Besant was a leader in the Fabian Socialist institution, aswell as being a leader in a prominent Masonic group called the Theosophical Society. The left spreads two ways, through overt left wing marxist groups, however it also spreads through Masonic Lodges by stealth, so politicians running in right wing parties will carry a left wing agenda into their administration. If a politician has links to Freemasonry, but has no history of being involved in a Marxist organization, then the public will vote him in thinking he is right wing, as he has no links or history with leftist groups. However his indoctrination into the left happened in the Masonic Lodges. Masonic Lodges are all over Israel and in most Western countries, so its clearly obvious why Israel and the West contantly implement left wing policies.
Everyone voted Ariel Sharon into office thinking he was right wing, then he pulls out of Gush Kutif and shows his true left wing marxist colors.
Unfortunately the vatican has been taken over and the Popes decisions and policies are not Biblical but rather in accordance with the left wing agenda.
Vatican has nothing to do with the Bible, there is nothing biblical! Did you know that for Vatican Bible is not most important theological book, no Bible is on second but more often on the third or even lower! Did you know that Vatican forbids to some priests to have and read the Bible!Did you know that Vatican was persecuted those who were printed Bible!
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Yeah I know they burned William Tyndale to death for publishing the Bible and translating it into English. They have been persecuting protestants and Jews for years, they are just doing it more covertly now.
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Poor little Pope! These crazy Orthodox it so threatening? Well they are not normal!
deny this and we can speak !
- Crusades as an excuse for the devastation, the destruction of Orthodox countries, Palestine and the holy city of Jerusalem! Killing raping and theft!
- Forced Christianization of people by Roman Catholic Church!
- Killing out and persecution of many Jews, Serbs, and other nation not suitable for the Christianization by Roman Catholic Church!
- Killing out and persecution of Protestants,
- Inquisition !!!
- Jesuits (strongest and bloodiest secret society)
- Support and helping out to Hitler comes to power, hiding of Nazi criminals
- Proclamation of Saint Aloysius Stepinac,
He has organized and personally participated in killing of Jews and Serbs, as they did many of his and other Catholic priests and monks throughout the world! For example, like the nuns who led a camp for Serbian and Jewish children "Jastrebarsko", and how they were tortured and killed there!
- Vatican's Bank, biggest and richest bank in the world without control and revision, Mafia do money laundering with this bank!
- atonement for forgiveness of sins from priest. (Only G-d can forgive!!!)
- Adoration of the Virgin Mary (idolatry)
- Pope calls himself Holy Father (profanity)!Pope calls himself G-d's son deputy! Chief Minister! By what right? Prue profanity!
(http://tucsoncitizen.com/rynski/files/2010/11/blabber-meter-closeup-300x213.jpg)
The Blabber Meter computes how much time - and money - incessant talkers waste with their blather.... Please look into this :crazy:
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And now, by special request song for cjd and bullcat3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js1VR51LRIs
I'm so bliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind!
Can't view it.
(http://weblogs.hollanddoc.nl/somethingtohide/files/2008/10/morespies.jpg)
Have you seen these guys?
Or this guy...
(http://www.nrcnext.nl/files/2011/01/Radar-Pigeon-15425.jpg)
The Pope only has highly trained spys in his flock. They might have eluded you.
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Can't view it.
Yes, and now I am quite disappointed :'(
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Guys I thing that you need to read a little more!
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and the pigeons will manage their own!
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Can't view it.
(http://weblogs.hollanddoc.nl/somethingtohide/files/2008/10/morespies.jpg)
Have you seen these guys?
Or this guy...
(http://www.nrcnext.nl/files/2011/01/Radar-Pigeon-15425.jpg)
The Pope only has highly trained spys in his flock. They might have eluded you.
:beast:
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Guys I thing that you need to read a little more!
No time for that... We are far to busy a sinning and cavorting :celebrate: :celebrate:...We would not want the "Satanic Pope" disappointed in us. And payola time comes all to quickly... The "Satanic Pope" doesn't run that money laundering service for nothing you know... If he doesn't get his sin restitution money the mafia man will be banging on the door... Having ones hand put on a hot stove burner is not a joke... This is why most Roman Catholics have their priorities in order ;D
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Demagogy, classical demagogy! When there is no reply than there is demagogy! I want answer not cheap and stupid English humor used as demagogy!
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Demagogy, classical demagogy! When there is no reply than there is demagogy! I want answer not cheap and stupid English humor used as demagogy!
Boilerplate claptrap is best responded to with demagogy! I am an American my friend so it must be cheap and stupid American humor your complaining about :::D You know... The country that's almost as bad as the "Vatikan" You have a nice and productive day... I will be out sinning and cavorting as required by the "Satanic Pope" We get a pass on Sunday to really lay it on :::D
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Boilerplate claptrap is best responded to with demagogy! I am an American my friend so it must be cheap and stupid American humor your complaining about :::D You know... The country that's almost as bad as the "Vatikan" You have a nice and productive day... I will be out sinning and cavorting as required by the "Satanic Pope" We get a pass on Sunday to really lay it on :::D
Do you speak English?
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ladno americki! hahaa
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ladno americki! hahaa
Careful now.... Talking to yourself is the first sign of going nuts :crazy:
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"I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits", said Hitler... "Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party... I am going to let you in on a secret... I am founding an Order... In my "Burgs" of the Order, we will raise up a youth which will make the world tremble... Hitler then stopped, saying that he couldn't say any more.." Hermann Rauschning, former national-socialist chief of the government of Dantzig: "Hitler m'a dit", (Ed. Co-operation, Paris 1939, pp.266, 267, 273 ss).
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b09FF1MkAQU/SnpmSn6jD0I/AAAAAAAAAZA/EMpMotkjVhU/s1600-h/vatican-pope-islam-meeting.jpg
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http://www.spirituallysmart.com/croatia2.html
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http://www.stepinac.org/
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Young Benedict XVI
http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=26430
http://www.archelaos.com/popes/imgx/Benedict_XVI_12.jpg
http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/img/popeHitler2.jpg
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I would say a prayer for you crnitrn. I would pray for G-d to give you strength. It must take an extreme amount of your energy to continue on in this thread. You post nothing new here.
Oh...I forgot. I have no relationship with, or understanding of, G-d. You Serbian Orthodox hold the monopoly on G-d and virtue. :yuck:
Demagogy, classical demagogy! When there is no reply than there is demagogy! I want answer not cheap and stupid English humor used as demagogy!
Not cheap and stupid English humor...just good old American sarcasm. English humor is what my Aunt in London has.
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Oops I did it again! :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I would say a prayer for you crnitrn. I would pray for G-d to give you strength. It must take an extreme amount of your energy to continue on in this thread. You post nothing new here.
Oh...I forgot. I have no relationship with, or understanding of, G-d. You Serbian Orthodox hold the monopoly on G-d and virtue. :yuck:Not cheap and stupid English humor...just good old American sarcasm. English humor is what my Aunt in London has.
I agree with you there is nothing new here, any remotely intelligent man knows who is the Pope and what is the Vatican! Every person has a direct relationship with God,while his conscience is working !
Old American sarcasm is just worse version of English humor, but both nations believe that their humor interesting,unfortunately! "Old American sarcasm" - haha! My oak tree in the courtyard it is older than American nation!
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I have one question for Pope's followers! Why on the square of St. Peter in the Vatican City stands obelisk!?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8g22ch-M3qk/TJvZG3OXgPI/AAAAAAAAAQk/gDLBEDhAiMI/s1600/obelisk1.jpg
Listen to Albert Pike speak of the obelisk:
"Hence the significancy of the phallus(* Man's Genitalia), or of its inoffensive substitute, the obelisk, rising as an emblem of the resurrection by the tomb of buried Deity …" [Morals and Dogma, p. 393]
The obelisk was originally created by the Egyptian Mysteries of the Pharaohs, and is spoken of in the Bible. Listen:
"… King Jehu said to the guards and to the officers, 'Go in and slay them; let none escape'. And they smote them with the sword; and the guards before the king threw their bodies out, and went into the inner dwelling of the house of Baal. They brought out the obelisks of the house of Baal and burned them." [2 Kings 10:26, Amplified Bible]
This obelisk is bring from Egypt !!!
http://www.lindahall.org/events_exhib/exhibit/exhibits/civil/vatican.shtml
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What evidence !? ???
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I agree with you there is nothing new here, any remotely intelligent man knows who is the Pope and what is the Vatican! Every person has a direct relationship with G-d,while his conscience is working !
Old American sarcasm is just worse version of English humor, but both nations believe that their humor interesting,unfortunately! "Old American sarcasm" - haha! My oak tree in the courtyard it is older than American nation!
So what.
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I agree with you there is nothing new here, any remotely intelligent man knows who is the Pope and what is the Vatican! Every person has a direct relationship with G-d,while his conscience is working !
Old American sarcasm is just worse version of English humor, but both nations believe that their humor interesting,unfortunately! "Old American sarcasm" - haha! My oak tree in the courtyard it is older than American nation!
Sorry man. I am intelligent, but ignorant on the subject of Christianity.
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This obelisk is bring from Egypt !!!
http://www.lindahall.org/events_exhib/exhibit/exhibits/civil/vatican.shtml
This thread is starting to remind me of a bad Rocky and Bullwinkle episode staring Boris Badenov :::D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3QXBHYRhpw
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:::D 8;) :::D Bring moose and squirrel! (or are they phallic dagger symbols too?)
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Sorry man. I am intelligent, but ignorant on the subject of Christianity.
I did not say anything to you this questions are for experts ( bullcat and cjd)!
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So what.
So that you how how young is your old!
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This obelisk is bring from Egypt !!!
http://www.lindahall.org/events_exhib/exhibit/exhibits/civil/vatican.shtml
This thread is starting to remind me of a bad Rocky and Bullwinkle episode staring Boris Badenov :::D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3QXBHYRhpw
Reason of that is because you are watching stupid american's cartoons to much, instead of reading a little bit more!
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No - I am no expert.
I just don't like being attacked without reason.
You can tell me all about the Pope and the Vatican.
What you can't do is call me stupid, lazy or evil.
I don't think you are religious at all. It's just a mantle you like to shove in the face of people you hate.
Those cartoons are way more entertaining and informative than you.
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No - I am no expert.
I just don't like being attacked without reason.
You can tell me all about the Pope and the Vatican.
What you can't do is call me stupid, lazy or evil.
I don't think you are religious at all. It's just a mantle you like to shove in the face of people you hate.
Those cartoons are way more entertaining and informative than you.
Hmn ! I never said that you are tupid, lazy or evil. I don't hate you!
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I am so sorry because some people dont know serbian language so that they can read this!
http://www.novinar.de/2011/03/01/pravoslavna-freska-u-rimokatolickom-samostanju.html
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The Vatican vs the ‘Zionist tsunami’
By GIULIO MEOTTI
02/28/2011 23:15
The slandering of Israel is growing at an alarming rate among the most important Catholic journalists.
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The January edition of La Civiltà Cattolica – the most authoritative magazine of the Jesuits, printed under the supervision of the Vatican – opens with an editorial about Palestinian refugees. Adopting the Arab propagandist word Nakba, it declares they are a consequence of “ethnic cleansing” by Israel. The journal also supports anti-Israeli historian Ilan Pappe, and falsely proclaims that “the Zionists were cleverly able to exploit the Western sense of guilt for the Shoah to lay the foundations of their own state.”
The Latin patriarch of Jerusalem, Fouad Twal, just joined an “interreligious meeting” in Doha, Qatar. Sponsored by the Arab League, the event occurred on Jerusalem, with the participation of “Christian and Muslim leaders.”
But no Jewish presence.
The slandering of Israel is growing among the most important Catholic journalists. Vittorio Messori, who conducted the first book-length interview with Pope John Paul II, recently wrote an editorial for the Italian daily Il Corriere della sera where he stated “All governments of all Muslim nations are under the tsunami of the violent intrusion of Zionism that has come to put its capital in Jerusalem.”
The Vatican’s teachings have a direct influence on 1.166 billion people. To understand its new mood about Israel, one has only to read what happened in the special synod on the Middle East, hosted in Rome. Nothing was said about Islamist persecution of Christians; indeed, every effort was made to show the Catholic Church sympathetic to Muslim grievances, especially against “Zionism” – a word evoked as a symbol of evil.
Archbishop Edmond Farhat – the official representative of Vatican politics – proclaimed that the ultimate cause of all the evils in the Middle East is that “foreign body” which is Israel: “The Middle Eastern situation today is like a living organ that has been subject to a graft it cannot assimilate and which has no specialists capable of healing it”.
US Archbishop Salim Bustros wrote the final message of the synod, claiming that the Jewish Promised Land had been “nullified by Christ,” thus reviving the infamous replacement theology that played a great role in the Holocaust. Bustros also claimed that the Bible can’t be used to justify the “occupation” of the West Bank, attempting to sever any link between the Jewish people and its homeland.
The former patriarch of Jerusalem, Michel Sabbah, named by Pope Benedict XVI to address the concluding session of the synod, presented a document against Israel called “Kairos” bearing the signatures of many Christian leaders in Jerusalem.
It says: “The Israeli occupation is a sin against God,” and takes sides against the very presence of Israel.
It likens the security barrier that has blocked suicide attacks to “apartheid,” it cancels the concept of a Jewish state and proclaims that “resistance to the evil of occupation is a Christian’s right and duty.”
The document was presented in a Vatican-owned building run by Pax Christi, Catholic Action and the Franciscan Custodian of the Holy Land.
THE CURRENT Vatican patriarch of Jerusalem, Fouad Twal, affirmed also that “you can’t have both Zionism and democracy,” supporting the “one-state solution” – a euphemism for the destruction of the Jewish state. Elias Chacour, the Catholic archbishop of Galilee and Nazareth, went on to say that Israel committed “an ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.”
Israel bashing is also part of the strategy of the Vatican Secretariat of State in the Middle East; its default position visà- vis militant Islamism is to try to reach accommodations with regimes and forswear condemnation of Islamist ideology. Israel is easily expendable in this horrendous scheme.
Yet the Church should have a strategic interest in a friendship with Zionists. Israel and the Vatican should be natural allies against the devotees of death. There is only one Middle Eastern country where the number of Christians has grown – Israel (from 34,000 in 1949 to 163,000).
Pope Benedict should now reverse the tragic wave against Israel and the Jews – which its enemies want to annihilate – with the same powerful determination with which he raises his voice in defense of the “nonnegotiable” principles concerning human life.
Israel is also not negotiable.
The writer, a journalist with Il Foglio, is the author of A New Shoah: The Untold Story of Israel’s Victims of Terrorism (Encounter).
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=210246
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http://www.spirituallysmart.com/nazi.html
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http://www.glassrpske.com/vijest/2/novosti/16690/lat/Hamas-ucestvovao-u-ratu-u-Bosni.html
Hamas učestvovao u ratu u Bosni
Datum: 19.01.2009 20:15
Autor: Goran Maunaga
BANjA LUKA - Skoro trećina islamskih dobrotvornih organizacija na Balkanu pomagala je aktivnosti islamskih grupa povezanih s terorizmom uključujući egipatsku Gama al-Islamiju, palestinski Hamas i libanski Hezbolah.
Američki publicista i ekspert za antiterorizam Evan Kolman navodi da to stoji u izvještaju američke vlade iz 1996. godine koji je nosio oznaku "strogo povjerljivo".
- Za taj izvještaj "Wall Street Journal " tvrdio je da ga je izradila američka Centralna obavještajna agencija (CIA). Činjenica je i da Hamasovac Abu Anas al-Šami sredinom devedesetih došao u BiH, navodno da bude misionar i da pomaže u širenju islama - navodi Kolman.
Nakon BiH, ističe on, Al-Šami vratio se u rodni Jordan gdje je pomogao osnivanje glavnog regrutnog centra za fundamentalističku grupaciju "Džamat al-Suna val-Kitab" ("Društvo suneta i Knjige").
Član Ekspertskog tima jugoistočne Evrope za borbu protiv terorizma i organizovanog kriminala Domagoj Margetić kaže da su visoki oficiri Hamasa koji su učestvovali u ratu u BiH uglavnom bili locirani na području centralne Bosne.
- Nekoliko njih učestvovalo je u logističkom centru Armije BiH u Visokom. Pripadnike Hamasa koordinisao je visoki oficir Armije BiH Majed Mafalani, porijeklom Sirijac, koji je sada ljekar u Visokom - kaže Margetić.
Obavještajci NATO-a, dodaje on, istraživali su Mafalanija zbog njegovih odnosa sa sirijskom obavještajnom službom i koordinacije dolazaka Hamasovih oficira u BiH. Kaže da je sirijska obavještajna služba jedan je od glavnih servisa Hamasu.
- Pripadnici Hamasa bili su sastavni dio komandnih centara Armije RBiH, a jedno vrijeme bili su dio njene obavještajne službe - ističe Margetić.
Hrvatski mediji su i poslije rata, tačnije 1999. godine pisali da su "Hamas, GIA i Bin Ladenovi islamski teroristi i dalje u BiH".
Tada je ispred kafea "Feniks" u Turbetu kod Travnika pronađeno pismo u kome "Islamska teroristička organizacija Sarajevo", odnosno lokalni ogranak Hamasa iz Turbeta, upozorava na buduće terorističke akcije usmjerene na tamošnje Hrvate, "ustaše", policiju i "otpadnike od islama". Letak je ostavljen na vjetrobranskom staklu automobila mladića hrvatske nacionalnosti.
- Sama pojava Hamasa u srednjoj Bosni dovoljan je znak za uzbunu. U policiji i u IPTF-u su potvrdili da znaju da je to djelo mudžahedina, pripadnika Hamasa, te da je riječ o direktnoj prijetnji povratku hrvatskog naroda u opštinu Travnik i cijele srednje Bosne, pisala je štampa.
Iako je američki Stejt department još tada stavio BiH na spisak zemalja u kojima djeluju terorističke organizacije i zatražio protjerivanje iz BiH vođa islamskih dobrovoljaca koji su tokom rata u BiH došli da pomognu "braći po vjeri", to do danas nije učinjeno.
Rat države Izrael i terorista
Margetić je naveo da je pismo podrške premijera RS Milorada Dodika upućeno Izraelu mudar potez jer se u pojasu Gaze, kako je rekao, ne vodi rat u kome postoje dvije suprotstavljene strane "nego postoji izraelska država i vojska, s jedne, i teroristička organizacija, sa druge strane".
- Političko Sarajevo aktivno se uključilo u Hamasovu propagandu protiv Izraela. Bilo je očekivano da će napasti istupe iz RS - kaže Margetić.
Ističe da je prijateljstvo sa Izraelom imperativ za civilizovane zemlje.
- Ili smo protiv terorizma i na strani Izraela, ili podržavamo islamski terorizam. Hamas koristi palestinske civile kao živi štit - kaže Margetić.
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Here is raw Google translattion for other members:
Hamas participated in the war in Bosnia
Date: 19/01/2009 20:15
Author: Goran Maunaga
BANJA LUKA - Nearly a third of Islamic charities in the Balkans helped the activities of Islamic groups linked to terrorism, including the Egyptian al-Gama Islami, Palestinian Hamas and Lebanese Hezbollah.
American journalist and anti-terrorism expert Evan Coleman said that the report of the U.S. government in 1996. year that is marked "strictly confidential".
- For this report, "Wall Street Journal claimed that he developed the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). The fact is that Hamas and Abu Anas al-Sami mid-nineties came to Bosnia, reportedly to be a missionary and to help in spreading Islam - said Coleman.
After Bosnia, he says, Al-Sami returned to his native Jordan, where he helped establish the main center for recruit fundamentalist group "Jamaat al-Sunna val-Kitab" (the "Company Sunnah and the Book").
Team's Southeast Europe to combat terrorism and organized crime Domagoj Margetic says Hamas senior officers who participated in the war in Bosnia were located mainly in central Bosnia.
- Several of them took part in the logistic center of the Army of Bosnia at Visoko. Hamas co-ordinate the senior officer of the Army of Bosnia Mafalani Majed, a native Syrian, who is now a doctor in the High - said Margetic.
NATO intelligence, he added, have investigated Mafalani because of his relationship with the Syrian intelligence service and coordination of arrivals Hamas officers in BiH. He says that the Syrian intelligence service is one of the main services to Hamas.
- Members of Hamas have been an integral part of the command centers of the Army of BiH, and at one time were part of its intelligence services - expires Margetic.
Croatian media after the war, namely the 1999th The media reported that "Hamas, GIA, and Bin Laden's Islamic terrorists are still in Bosnia."
Then the front of the cafe, "Phoenix" in Turbe near Travnik found a letter that "the Islamic terrorist organization, Sarajevo, or the local branch of Hamas from Turbe, warns of future acts of terrorism directed at the local Croats," Ustasha ", the police and" apostates "from Islam" . The leaflet was left on car windshields young Croat.
- The emergence of Hamas in central Bosnia is sufficient cause for alarm. The police and the IPTF have confirmed that they know to be the work of the mujahedin, members of Hamas, and that this is a direct threat to return the Croatian people in the municipality of Travnik in central Bosnia and the whole, wrote to the press.
Although the U.S. State Department is BH then placed on the list of countries where terrorist organizations operate, and demanded the expulsion of the leaders of BiH Islamic volunteers who during the war in Bosnia came to help the "brothers in faith", it is not done today.
The war of Israel and the terrorists
Margetic said that the letter of support to Prime Minister Milorad Dodik sent Israel a wise move because in the Gaza Strip, he said, not fighting a war in which there are two opposing sides, "but there is an Israeli state and army, on one side, and terrorist organizations, with On the other hand. "
- Political Sarajevo actively involved in the Hamas propaganda against Israel. It was expected to attack withdraw from RS - Margetic said.
He points out that friendship with Israel is imperative for civilized countries.
- Either we are against terrorism and on Israel's side, or support Islamic terrorism. Hamas uses Palestinian civilians as human shields - Margetic said.
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http://serbstvo.yuku.com/topic/407/
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http://one-evil.org/
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http://www.mondo.rs/s204795/Info/Srbija/Taci_zvanica_na_beatifikaciji_Jovana_Pavla_II.html
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Devil's apprentice evil Roman Pope John Paul II
http://www.vseselj.com/files/books/Djavolov%20segrt%20zlocinacki%20rimski%20papa%20Jovan%20Pavle%20Drugi.pdf
Antichrist's regent evil Roman Pope Benedict XVI
http://www.vseselj.com/files/books/Antihristov%20namesnik%20zlikovacki%20rimski%20papa%20Benedikt%20Sesnaesti.pdf
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/tlthe5th/nazi-vatican/young-ratzinger2.jpg)
Pope Benedict XVI
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That's why it was necessary to replace Mubarak.
http://www.onejerusalem.org/2011/04/cairo-will-host-hamas-fatah.php
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http://vimeo.com/23331987
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I always say there is a good people in every nation, religion ...etc.
So there is many good Catholics! I never attack Catholics as a people, I attacked Roman Catholic Church as institution and Vatican with Pope! there never be nice words for Vatican from me, because there is no nothing nice about them!they are responsible for many deaths and suffering of serbian people through history, and jewish people to!
I respect honest Catholics, but I will never respect Vatican because they are so far from honesty!
That is the true, God is my witness!!!