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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: deathb4dishonor on September 21, 2011, 12:11:21 AM
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I am keen to find out what a general jew heart feels about India ?
Islamization of India does create any concern in Jew minds?
What you people feel about Kashmir ?
etc etc
Please share your views regarding India ..
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Hello, and welcome to JTF. We have several Hindu Indian members here. Of course we are against the Islamization of India. As for Kashmir, we believe it rightfully belongs to the Hindus and that it should be returned to India.
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along with pakistan and bangladesh, those should be restored to india as well
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I am keen to find out what a general jew heart feels about India ?
Islamization of India does create any concern in Jew minds?
What you people feel about Kashmir ?
etc etc
Please share your views regarding India ..
What is a "jew heart?"
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What is a "jew heart?"
An oxymoron obviously, as we Jews only care for our jew gold.
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An oxymoron obviously, as we Jews only care for our jew gold.
in hindi "jew ke dil main kya hai "
"jew mind set" i hope this is right English ..
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in hindi "jew ke dil main kya hai "
"jew mind set" i hope this is right English ..
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you just made an innocent mistake....
"Jew" is the noun, and "jewish" is the adjective. But lowlife nazis like to use "jew this, jew that" as an adjective, verb and a general purpose curse word.
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in hindi "jew ke dil main kya hai "
"jew mind set" i hope this is right English ..
I have had Indian friends who have made similar mistakes like this before. So don't worry if it is just your English. You might say something like " what is the common or prevailing Jewish point of view?" Zelhar gave a good description as to why Jews are sensitive when "Jew" is used as an adjective. many Anti-Semites use "Jew" as a pejorative.
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I have no problem with Hindu Indians. I work with at least 6 on my software development team and I have one Indian friend who I have kept in touch with for almost seven years. My friend Rambabu was very interested in my Jewish faith and we discussed Israel a lot. I remember he said that among his friends Israel is looked upon as very powerful and strong militarily.
The one fall-out I had with my friend Rambabu was when we discussed a restaurant in India which they called 'Hitlers Cross'.... Of course it was a Hindu restaurant which used the Swastika emblem {which many say is originally a Hindu symbol} but named the restaurant 'Hitlers Cross' so it was obvious that it was not the innocent Hindu symbol... My friend did not think it should be offensive but I stopped speaking to him for almost 2 years after that... Any Nazi symbols make me insane with anger.
PS: I found a reference to this restaurant on Wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlers_Cross
Cross Café, formerly known as Hitlers' Cross [sic] or Hitler's Cross, was a Hitler-themed restaurant at Kharghar in Navi Mumbai, a satellite city of Mumbai. The restaurant's former name, "Hitlers' Cross", referred to the swastika and the Cross of Honor of the German Mother, symbols of the Nazi regime, and the restaurant's interior was decorated in red, white and black - the colours of the Nazi party. An enormous portrait of Hitler was the first thing visitors saw when they opened the door. The manager of Hitlers' Cross told the Times of India: "We wanted to be different. This is one name that will stay in people's minds ... we want to tell people we are different in the way he was different." After severe criticism, Hitlers' Cross had to drop its name and is today called the Cross Café. Cross Cafe now has a branch in Nerul.
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I wonder this... Are Indians even taught about what happened in WWII or is it just skipped over?
This section makes me scratch my head and say "Whaaaa?":
The inauguration of Hitlers' Cross was attended by several prominent representatives of the Navi Mumbai community on 18 August 2006. Dignitaries such as Navi Mumbai mayor Manisha Bhoir and former mayor Sanjeev Naik were invited as chief guests to the restaurant by the Sablok Builders group, who are reportedly behind the management of Hitlers' Cross, and are currently planning to open more branches in Mumbai. Actor Murli Sharma, who has featured in films like Apaharan and Main Hoon Na, was also one of the guests present at the inauguration. When asked by a news reporter if he felt disturbed by the name of the restaurant, Sharma said: "I am not really agitated as I have not read much about the man (Hitler). However, from what I know about Hitler, I find this name rather amusing."
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Finally, on 24 August, after less than a week of international outcry and a meeting with local Jewish leaders, Punit Sablok agreed to remove Hitler's name and the Nazi swastika from billboards and the restaurant's menu. "I chose the name innocently. I didn't expect that it would snowball into a major controversy", Sablok said. At that point, he said he was unsure of the name to be chosen, but sure of one thing: "no more dictators". The Indian Jewish Federation reacted positively, saying it was relieved. "The incident exposes the lack of understanding of the present generation about the atrocities of the past and the need to educate them about crimes against humanity," Solomon said.[citation needed]
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India is a great country may it last forever! :dance:
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I wasn't aware of offensiveness of "Jew" as in our land and usages this is normal but anyways it will help me in my future interaction with any Israeli :)
Swastika is holy symbol for all Hindus and it is most common symbol that is used in almost all Hindu houses .
Hitler is known in India as ruler of Germany who killed lots of innocent men during WW but less people know that those men were Jew.
People don't have any hard feeling towards Hitler mainly due to the reason that during WW II he offered to extend his support in Indian Independence Struggle . Indeed Germans with Japan had helped in raising Indian National Army to drive British out of India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_National_Army
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Correct my late uncle was a Chindit and fought against the Japs in Burma, [14 Army] and once spoke to Gen Orde Wingate who trained the Haganah! My uncle thought highly of Hindu & Sikh troops!
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It's better to have Hindus in control of India than Muslims
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I wasn't aware of offensiveness of "Jew" as in our land and usages this is normal but anyways it will help me in my future interaction with any Israeli :)
Swastika is holy symbol for all Hindus and it is most common symbol that is used in almost all Hindu houses .
Hitler is known in India as ruler of Germany who killed lots of innocent men during WW but less people know that those men were Jew.
People don't have any hard feeling towards Hitler mainly due to the reason that during WW II he offered to extend his support in Indian Independence Struggle . Indeed Germans with Japan had helped in raising Indian National Army to drive British out of India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_National_Army
Of course you know that Hitler did not just kill men... But Men, Women, and Children were all gassed and thrown into the ovens by the Nazis..
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Mostly positive views about Hindu Indians. They are a bit on the cheap side, but hey, so are Jews. ;D
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If you want my honest opinion, I can't speak favorably for India, I am sure there are many Indians who have good intentions but I see them as mainly taking the jobs in the United States that we need, the corporations primarily outsource to India and is a major reason I lost my job with my former company due to outsourcing because they will work at a much lower rate.
They do steal American jobs by taking less money for the same work. I blame the corporations who consider themselves international entities rather than considering themselves to be American companies for that mostly but I still resent the fact that when I call somewhere I don't know whether it's some Indian faking an American accent or an actual American.
Other than that, I knew a few people from India at high school, a lot of them used to pretend they were Mexican, not sure why Indians in America are afraid to say where they are from, but if you support Israel and as the government is fighting against Islam, then I will support their efforts but I certainly don't have love for India.
India has a lot of nice natural wonders in it like tigers and Asian lions, Indian elephants, cobras, etc. which I think is neat, but unfortunately when I think of India I think more of diseases like amoebic dysentery and really nasty things like how some people drink cow urine or others who worship rats or monkeys.
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we can't really blame them for taking the jobs. india needs jobs as well. the problem with india is it's government.
india has a history similar to israel. ruled by the british and got taken over by a native bolshevick establishment. having socialist bolsheviks rule your country is not the best thing for an economy, so they get a lot of jobs from overseas as opposed to locally.
at least thats the sense im getting
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we can't really blame them for taking the jobs. india needs jobs as well. the problem with india is it's government.
india has a history similar to israel. ruled by the british and got taken over by a native bolshevick establishment. having socialist bolsheviks rule your country is not the best thing for an economy, so they get a lot of jobs from overseas as opposed to locally.
at least thats the sense im getting
That's a problem within their country. Our corporations shouldn't be selling out Americans and giving the jobs to them. If they need jobs too (and they do) they need to fix their economy so they can produce the jobs locally. The USA is a total mess right now too and we need all the jobs we can get and nothing is being done about this problem to bring these jobs back home. Between them and the illegal immigrants and their 'legal' anchor babies, Americans are really getting the short end of the stick.
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I understand your pains. To everybody, there are many different things on the earth which should not have been there, but they are there and they will not be there. So the Almighty helps and allows us to pass through the different times as per his own will. Actually I can not have anything against the Jews, because they have never been on the collision course against Hindus during the longest possible period of history and also never to be expected in future. Moreover they are the most valiant fighters against the muslamic terrorism and I believe them to be the only true religion, this irrespective of the fact that they are poles apart from Hindus in many aspects.
Whereas some Christians are concerned, I feel a little problem of conversion, but that thing is already declining fast due to spread of education, awareness, Dharma and economy, so I can digest it now without complaining.
As such, you can have Himalaya of complains against Hindus, but I can not have any against you, especially till the obliteration of the last muslamic empire at Bhalladpur and even after.
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i agree. like israel, india needs a good nudge to wake up. but we can't really force american companies to bring jobs back. the answer to socialism is not more socialism.
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i agree. like israel, india needs a good nudge to wake up. but we can't really force american companies to bring jobs back. the answer to socialism is not more socialism.
There can be laws passed that make it more difficult for American-based companies to outsource jobs.
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There can be laws passed that make it more difficult for American-based companies to outsource jobs.
Then the product and services of such companies will go costlier and difficult to compete in the market. Hence they may soon go out of order in the free market. Either such companies will be purchased by China or the China will capture the market itself.
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Then the product and services of such companies will go costlier and difficult to compete in the market. Hence they may soon go out of order in the free market. Either such companies will be purchased by China or the China will capture the market itself.
China's another problem that needs to be dealt with but that one will be more difficult. I think the quality of the product would be higher and people would be willing to pay more when it comes to things like customer service. When I call a company with a complaint I'd rather speak to Bob in Ohio than Jawaharlal in Mumbai.
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If you want my honest opinion, I can't speak favorably for India, I am sure there are many Indians who have good intentions but I see them as mainly taking the jobs in the United States that we need, the corporations primarily outsource to India and is a major reason I lost my job with my former company due to outsourcing because they will work at a much lower rate.
India has some serious issues they need to address in their own country, I don't understand how a country with as much technology and power status has so much poverty and starvation issues, when I saw pictures I was horrified.
Other than that, I knew a few people from India at high school, a lot of them used to pretend they were Mexican, not sure why Indians in America are afraid to say where they are from, but if you support Israel and as the government is fighting against Islam, and also are the enemies are Pakistan, then I will support their efforts but I certainly don't have love for India or really have any intention of wanting to visit there.
Thanks for your valuable views
India is still an young country of 64 years after freedom from the British Colonial rule in 1947.We are still striving to have
to overcome poverty and starvation to some of our citizens .
I don't know how we Indians could be balmed for taking jobs in US when globalization is ground reality . Personally I with many Indians
hate the idea to work for US or any other country but why you people ignore the fact that US companies are money mongers who by themselves setup their offices in Mumbai /Hyderabad/Delhi ?.
If Indians are causing issues with US economy than US policy makers should have courage to ban Indians and have close economy .
If Mac Donald and Microsoft can come and earn profits in India than US should have courage to either accept globalization or have close economy .
Hindu Nationalist Idea is totally against this viscous circle of globalization ,we don't want to waste our talent for some other country .
We are not stealing anything its our right in global economy to have participation if anyone is having problem than he should ask his policy makers to close their doors.
India has a lot of nice natural wonders in it like tigers and Asian lions, Indian elephants, cobras, etc. which I think is neat, but unfortunately when I think of India I think more of diseases like amoebic dysentery and really nasty things like how some people drink cow urine or others who worship rats or monkeys.
I hope you have upgraded your G.K after WW II era as amoebic dysentery and many other diseases have been eradicated in India.
I strongly oppose any violation of my religious beliefs at any forum ,I am proud that we people drink cow urine or worship rats or monkeys.
Are you comparing our civilization with some other? We have a civilization which is rich in knowledge and spirituality .We worship almost every thing and pay due regards to nature .
I hope you are ignorant about Ayurveda so you made a lame comment over cow urine ,please have some study before abusing anyone's belief and customs.
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YES! That can be a problem! :)
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There are obvious problems jews have with your religion. I dont want to know about what you believe. My indian friend was aware that Judaism frowns very badly on idol worship. Woshipping nature is also a big nono...
Non jews who are righteous (noachides) still must believe in only one G-d.. Jews should never make agreements with those who worship idols, or nature...
Otherwise i think indians are good people...Please do not mention any of the names of your dieties as that would cause righteous jews to transgress our commandments...
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just a question, but how does knowing the names of foreign deity's hurt fidelity?
im sure everyone on this forum knows about jesus, but that doesnt make us run to the nearest church. we are also unfortunately familiar with islam, but baruch hashem we arn't running towards the nearest mosque to strap ourselves with a bomb.
im also sure we are all familiar with star wars, but the few people that worship the force are beyond help anyway, so without star wars, they would be worshiping a rock or something.
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Why would a proud Indian write "I am proud that we people drink cow urine or worship rats or monkeys." ??????? Maybe I misunderstood. I hope you are not a troll
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hmm..
But in my City lots of youth from Israel come as tourist and visit our temples and other holy places too ..
I have seen some of them wearing Indian T-shirts with "OM" printed (hindu symbol).
I will try to get a video interview of those people
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Why would a proud Indian write "I am proud that we people drink cow urine or worship rats or monkeys." ??????? Maybe I misunderstood. I hope you are not a troll
good thought
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Why would a proud Indian write "I am proud that we people drink cow urine or worship rats or monkeys." ??????? Maybe I misunderstood. I hope you are not a troll
It is difference of perception we treat nature holy and give respect to animals so wats wrong in this?
Cow Urine has medicinal value in Ayurveda so why others have problem ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unhpG8jZpxg&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda
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i have no clue what cow urine is composed of but i can probably say this much: the enzymes and bacteria associated with bees is most likely not the same stuff as enzymes and bacteria associated with cows. correct me if im wrong.
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i have no clue what cow urine is composed of but i can probably say this much: the enzymes and bacteria associated with bees is most likely not the same stuff as enzymes and bacteria associated with cows. correct me if im wrong.
As per my biological knowledge both contain Salts !
The Main Elements of Cow Urine and Their Functions
Many useful elements have been found in urine. Some of them are as below :
Urea
Urea is a major element found in urine and is the end product of protein metabolism. It is strong antibacterial agent.
Uric acid
Uric acid is similar to Urea and has strong antibacterial properties. In addition it helps to control cancer-causing substances.
Minerals
Minerals from urine can be very easily reabsorbed as compared to those derived from food. Urine probably contains more different types of minerals than those derived from food. Urine becomes turbid if left alone for a while This is because when enzyme present in urine dissolve urea and change it into ammonia then urine becomes strongly alkaline making it difficult to dissolve rich minerals. Therefore stale urine looks turbid This does not mean that it has decayed Urine with a higher ammonical disorder content when applied to the skin plays an important role in beautifying it.
Bioactive substance and hormones
Urokinase : Dissolves blood clots, helps in curing heart diseases and improves blood circulation.
Epithelium growth factor : Helps, repair and regenerate damaged tissues and cells
Colony stimulating factor : It is effective for cell division and multiplication.
Growth hormone : Shows different bioactive effects such as promotion of protein production, cartilage growth, fat decomposition.
Erythropoetine : Promotes production of red blood cells.
Gonadotropins : Promotes normalization of menstrual cycle and sperm production Kallikrin: -Releases kallidin that expands peripheral veins and reduce blood pressure.
Tripsyn inhibitor : Effective for prevention and healing of muscular tumor.
Allantoine : Heals wounds and tumors.
Anti-cancer substance : Anti-neoplaston, H-11 beta-iodole-acetic acid, directine, 3-methyl gloxal, etc. differ from chemotherapeutic drugs, which kill or injure all kinds of cells. They strongly prevent the multiplication of carcinogenic cells and return them to normal.
Nitrogen
It is diuretic & stimulates kidney naturally.
Sulphur
It increases intestinal peristalsis and purifies blood.
AmmoniaIt maintains integrity of body tissues and blood.
Copper
It checks excessive deposition of fat.
Iron
It maintains RBC counts in blood and stabilizes stamina.
Phosphate
It has litlhotriptic action.
Sodium
It purifies the blood and checks hyperacidity.
Potassium
It is appetizer and climinatcs muscle fatigue.
Magnese
It is antibacterial and prevents gas gangrene.
Carbolic Acid
It is antibacterial and prevents gas gangrene.
Calcium
It purifies blood & provide nutrition to bones; helps in coagulation of blood.
Salts
Antibacterial, Prevents Comma, and kctoacidois.
Vitamin A, B, C, D, E
They prevent excessive thirst, infuses vigour, and increase potency.
Lactose Sugar
Gives strength to heart, checks excessive thirst and giddiness.
Enzymes
Improve immunity, and promote the secretion of digestive juices.
Water
Controles the body temperature maintains the fluidity of blood.
Hippuric Acid
Excrete toxins through the urine.
Creatinine
It is antibacterial.
Swama Kshar
Antibacterial, improves immunity, and acts as an antidote.
Some hormones presents in 8-month pregnant cow which are very good for health.
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I see no problems with Hindu Nationalists in our forum, assuming they respect Judaism and don't ever preach or proselytize.
I don't think you are a troll at all, and I think your intentions are sincere.
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I see no problems with Hindu Nationalists in our forum, assuming they respect Judaism and don't ever preach or proselytize.
I don't think you are a troll at all, and I think your intentions are sincere.
Ya u made a right point
For us religion is not a mercantile good neither we believe in conversion nor in propagation of our faith by marketing it anywhere or by any mean.
For us it is way of life and we are contend with that but sincerely if someone questions my faith I have a right to defend my faith accordingly .
Yes certainly i not here for trolling i am keen to find prospective of Indo-Israel friendship.
PS : Can someone help me find the name of this person ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx9OWjO97rk&feature=related
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deathb4dishonor asked about a video he posted
Can someone help me find the name of this person ?
It's at the start of the video Gutman Locks
If you really want to contact that person, I remember that Tamar Yona who runs radio programs over the internet
at http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/ once did an interview with Gutman Locks.
Maybe through contacting her you can get to him.
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just a question, but how does knowing the names of foreign deity's hurt fidelity?
im sure everyone on this forum knows about jesus, but that doesnt make us run to the nearest church. we are also unfortunately familiar with islam, but baruch hashem we arn't running towards the nearest mosque to strap ourselves with a bomb.
im also sure we are all familiar with star wars, but the few people that worship the force are beyond help anyway, so without star wars, they would be worshiping a rock or something.
Shalom Meerkat,
I have explained this before, but maybe not since you have been a member.
There is a commandment in the Torah which explains that we should not learn, or say the name of any so-called deity or force, which is not according to the faith of our forefathers Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
See this article which discusses the commandment of not mentioning the name of other/foreign deities...
http://www.shemayisrael.com/parsha/chrysler/archives/eikev59.htm
(The Mitzvos Lo Sa'aseh)
13. Not to swear by the name of an idol - as the Torah writes in Mishpotim "And you shall not mention the name of other gods" (Sh'mos 23:13).
One is not permitted to make a vow in his name either.
Included in this la'av is not to make a gentile swear by his G-d. Even just to mention the name of an idol is forbidden - even if it is not in the context of an oath. For example, one Jew should not say to another (or to a gentile) 'Wait for me beside such and such an idol'.
One is permitted to mention the names of gods mentioned in the Torah (such as Ba'al Pe'or and Ne'vo, seeing as they are no longer worshipped).
One may also not cause others to make vows or to swear in the name of other gods. This mitzvah applies everywhere and at all times, to men and women alike.
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14. Not to cause a town in Yisroel to go astray - as the Torah writes in Mishpotim (Sh'mos 23:13) "It shall not be heard by your mouth. "
Someone who entices an individual to serve idols is called 'meisis', and someone who entices a town is called 'madi'ach'. He is put to death by stoning, even if he himself did not serve idols, as long as the people that he enticed did.
This mitzvah applies everywhere, and at all times, to men and women alike.
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15. Not to eat or drink from a sacrifice that is offered to an idol - as the Torah writes in Ki Siso "Beware lest you make a treaty with the inhabitants of the lands ... and he calls to you and you eat from his sacrifice" (Sh'mos 34: 12-15).
Included in this la'av is not to drink wine that was poured out to an idol. One may derive no benefit from sacrifices of idolatry or from wine that was poured out ('yayin nesech'). Someone who eats or drinks either of them receives malkos.
Drinking any wine belonging to a non-Jew is a Rabbinical prohibition. Someone who drinks a revi'is (one and a half egg-volumes) receives makas mardus (malkos de'Rabbonon).
It is forbidden to benefit from Jewish wine that was deliberately touched by a non-Jew. It is also prohibited to eat at the party that a non-Jew made for his son or daughter's wedding - even if one eats one's own food and one's own waiter is serving. This mitzvah applies everywhere and at all times, to men and women alike.
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16. Not to turn to an idol - as the Torah writes in Kedoshim "Do not turn to gods" (19: 4).
It is forbidden to turn to them both verbally and in thought, and even just to look at them. Nor is one permitted to read books that pertain to them or to enquire how one worships them, because through that he will switch his mind to them and think about them. Anyone who turns to an idol in a way that involves performing an act receives Malkos. This mitzvah applies everywhere and at all times, to men and women alike.
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17. Not to derive any benefit from ornaments that adorn an idol - as the Torah writes in Vo'Eschanan (7:25) "Do not covet the silver and gold that is on them and take them for yourself".
This mitzvah applies everywhere and at all times, to men and women alike.
And the issue is not that saying the name will cause one to run to the nearest site of foreign worship but that it may cause one to think about that deity and find some truth, which may later on lead them down a path which leads to violating some of the commandments concerning avodah zarah.
I do not say any names of G-d other than that which has been taught to the Jewish people. Sure I know of them but I do not want to learn about them because there is enough to learn about my own faith to keep me busy.
PS: Come to think of it this post was off-topic... It really has nothing to do with our relationship with Indian nationalists. I have no problem working with them... But I just wanted to clarify why I said what I did in my previous post.
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Mrs Patel runs our corner shop! : :::D:
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Well I knew someone in person who went to India and came back with dysentery because they drank the water so I doubt it's completely eradicated. Also I don't care what the health benefits of it are drinking cow urine is not something you can expect the average American to look upon with anything but complete disgust.
http://www.ehow.com/about_5114065_amoebic-dysentery.html
"Places like India, Africa, South America and Mexico are the most affected by amoebic dysentery. People traveling to these places should avoid eating raw vegetables and drinking water that has not been boiled or properly treated."
With those things said I do prefer Hindus to Muslims and I wish you luck in reclaiming Pakistan. That doesn't mean I'm going to like those other things though.
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Well I knew someone in person who went to India and came back with dysentery because they drank the water so I doubt it's completely eradicated. Also I don't care what the health benefits of it are drinking cow urine is not something you can expect the average American to look upon with anything but complete disgust.
http://www.ehow.com/about_5114065_amoebic-dysentery.html
"Places like India, Africa, South America and Mexico are the most affected by amoebic dysentery. People traveling to these places should avoid eating raw vegetables and drinking water that has not been boiled or properly treated."
With those things said I do prefer Hindus to Muslims and I wish you luck in reclaiming Pakistan. That doesn't mean I'm going to like those other things though.
Not sure if this is relevant here Rubystars, but amoebic dysentery comes from fecal matter particulate, not urine.
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Not sure if this is relevant here Rubystars, but amoebic dysentery comes from fecal matter particulate, not urine.
Right I wasn't saying that. It's the contaminated water (with feces) that they get it from. I was just saying that I tend to think of that infection when I think of India because I knew someone who got it there from drinking water without boiling it and I also read in different sites that it's one of the main places you have to watch out for that and take precautions.
I was making a separate point that I think drinking cow urine is filthy. It probably ironically enough though poses less of a threat than drinking the water. ;D
I can see why that got confusing though in post #41 because I didn't put a paragraph break there. Thanks for helping me clarify.
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@Rubystars
Sheer ignorance is being reflected in your posts .
I suggest you to respect religious views of others and have unbiased study of what all you have alleged .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXG3ya3AGnM
This video is having some facts about India which i think i should share ..
Lady is translating in English for your convince
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Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir all belong to India. India and Israel should cooperate with each other to destroy all Muslim Nazi nations.
Israel should have done military exercises with India instead of Nazi Turkey.
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Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir all belong to India. India and Israel should cooperate with each other to destroy all Muslim Nazi nations.
Israel should have done military exercises with India instead of Nazi Turkey.
Large Indian people feel Israel's cause righteous and want to corporate with Israel in every field of life both in good and bad times .
lots of wishes for Prosperous Israel from India :)
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There are so many people in India there are bound to be tons of really smart doctors/scientists, etc. from there because the top IQ percentage of the population will naturally be larger in a much larger country.
The multicultural aspects probably also have to do with having a very large population.
One good thing I can say is that at least India has a democracy unlike China which has an oppressive, evil government.
I also would generally trust a Hindu a lot more than I would a Muslim.
I considered posting a video about the rat temple where a guy at the temple drinks milk with rat droppings in it because he believes that the animals are very holy, but I don't think it will help relations much so I will leave it and not post it. Nevertheless I think India has good and bad points to it. I don't think I'd want to go there because I wouldn't want to get sick.
I think this is a place that's meant for Asian people of Indian descent like most of the people in India are and not really for my type of people though. Like Israel is meant for people that are Jewish.
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There are so many people in India there are bound to be tons of really smart doctors/scientists, etc. from there because the top IQ percentage of the population will naturally be larger in a much larger country.
The multicultural aspects probably also have to do with having a very large population.
One good thing I can say is that at least India has a democracy unlike China which has an oppressive, evil government.
I also would generally trust a Hindu a lot more than I would a Muslim.
I considered posting a video about the rat temple where a guy at the temple drinks milk with rat droppings in it because he believes that the animals are very holy, but I don't think it will help relations much so I will leave it and not post it. Nevertheless I think India has good and bad points to it. I don't think I'd want to go there because I wouldn't want to get sick.
I think this is a place that's meant for Asian people of Indian descent like most of the people in India are and not really for my type of people though. Like Israel is meant for people that are Jewish.
In many of the places you are not trying to know fact about claims you made so i would love to share the truth with you .
See India is so vast and full of cultures that posting a video of one temple will not help . In India each mile you will go you will find different language,food,culture . Rats are treated with generosity but it doesn't mean Hindus don't kill rats or every Hindu is bound to share a milk with them in particular temple .
Hinduism is having no strict code of conduct regarding profession of religion so siting any particular tradition will certainly not help .
We use cows urine as medicine as per our culture doesn't mean that we feed over tat thing only.It is used with medicinal values that we know and we don't care what west things of us :)
The pictures you posted are of Hindu last rites sites and we have a tradition on open air cremation.
As far water supply is concerned we do have RO water supplies and water is treated before butting in public distribution .
I am sorry for any unsanitary condition you witnessed in my nation but I am optimistic that we will improve shortcomings soon :)
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In many of the places you are not trying to know fact about claims you made so i would love to share the truth with you .
See India is so vast and full of cultures that posting a video of one temple will not help . In India each mile you will go you will find different language,food,culture . Rats are treated with generosity but it doesn't mean Hindus don't kill rats or every Hindu is bound to share a milk with them in particular temple .
I understand there are many branches of Hinduism and not all follow the same thing. I just was using that as an example of something that really, really disgusts Westeners like me. There are various branches that do really bizarre things like that. I just can't see that happening in a truly first world country.
Hinduism is having no strict code of conduct regarding profession of religion so siting any particular tradition will certainly not help .
It was just an example of one that I find particularly icky.
We use cows urine as medicine as per our culture doesn't mean that we feed our tat thing only.
It's just... I can't see medicine in that. I don't see what possible benefit that could have for someone unless they were low on salt. I think it's really horrible and if I ever found out that I'd drank something like that I would throw up!
The pictures you posted are of Hindu last rites sites and we have a tradition on open air cremation.
I didn't post the pictures that was someone else. I didn't even see the pics, they came up as broken images to me.
As far water supply is concerned we do have RO water supplies and water is treated before butting in public distribution .
I am sorry for any unsanitary condition you witnessed in my nation but I am optimistic that we will improve shortcomings soon :)
It's mostly the poor people in India who don't have clean water. In the USA even poor people have clean water. I hope India can improve on that too.
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I really getting fond of your brilliance :)
Have you done research or any study over Ayurveda and Indian Water Supply system ?
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I really getting fond of your brilliance :)
Have you done research or any study over Ayurveda and Indian Water Supply system ?
Ayurvedic herbal medicines often contain dangerous levels of heavy metals like lead, at least the ones sold here. I also think it's based on some kind of elemental system which sounds a lot like beliefs that Westerners abandoned a few hundred years ago (reminds me of the Shakespeare plays that talk about the humours).
I don't really know if I want to get into a big discussion about the water supply system unless your counterpoint is that all people have access to clean, parasite free water in India, which I will find very hard to believe.
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Ayurvedic herbal medicines often contain dangerous levels of heavy metals like lead, at least the ones sold here. I also think it's based on some kind of elemental system which sounds a lot like beliefs that Westerners abandoned a few hundred years ago (reminds me of the Shakespeare plays that talk about the humours).
I don't really know if I want to get into a big discussion about the water supply system unless your counterpoint is that all people have access to clean, parasite free water in India, which I will find very hard to believe.
Bashing only due to some of your prejudice belief is not a fantastic thing !
I suggest you have patience of research before making comments which are without any ground reality!
As in the particular post you made above all facts are just opposite to the reality and truth .
Plastic surgery, cataract surgery, puncturing to release fluids in the abdomen, extraction of foreign elements, treatment of anal fistulas, treating fractures, amputations, cesarean sections, and stitching of wounds were known in Ayurveda in the early centuries of the first millennium AD
The medical works of both Sushruta and Charaka were translated into the Arabic language during the Abbasid Caliphate (ca. 750).These Arabic works made their way into Europe via intermediaries. In Italy, the Branca family of Sicily and Gaspare Tagliacozzi (Bologna) became familiar with the techniques of Sushruta.
British physicians traveled to India to see rhinoplasty being performed by native methods. Reports on Indian rhinoplasty were published in the Gentleman's Magazine in 1794. Joseph Constantine Carpue spent 20 years in India studying local plastic surgery methods. Carpue was able to perform the first major surgery in the western world in 1815.Instruments described in the Sushruta Samhita were further modified in the Western World.
We still practice this and lots of people from west come to have benefit of this and we are proud of this so called thing westerners left :)
Access to improved source of water in India : (Urban/Rural/Total) 96%/84%/88% (2008)
Source :
UNICEF/WHO Joint Monitoring Programme for Water Supply and Sanitation estimate for 2008 based on the 2006 Demographic and Health Survey, the 2001 census, other data and the extrapolation of previous trends to 2010.
I hope above lines are not offensive :)
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I hope the 88% can improve. Even with that though why is it when a Westerner goes there they so often get sick with some parasite or get diarrhea? It doesn't seem to affect the natives the same way necessarily. When people from all over the world come to the USA they don't get any particular American diseases other than eating too much fast food. :laugh:
I don't really want to fight with you but I don't think we'll ever agree on these things because I just have a completely different set of values than you do when it comes to things like this.
As far as the innovations by Indians in the medical field even in the past, I'm sure that's true but I think this has a lot less to do with Ayurveda and a lot more to do with those individuals being particularly intelligent people and discovering things because of that.
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See my intention is to help you know reality and truth ..
I am here to know more about Judaism and Israel so no plans to raise a fight :)
Those individuals are pioneers of Ayurveda :)
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See my intention is to help you know reality and truth ..
I am here to know more about Judaism and Israel so no plans to raise a fight :)
Those individuals are pioneers of Ayurveda :)
It is interesting I just think they were smart people but not necessarily right about everything.
If you want to know about Judaism and Israel then you're in the right place.