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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: briann on February 02, 2012, 12:58:40 PM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9055854/US-man-charged-with-eating-brains-of-his-homeless-murder-victim.html
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02126/Tyree-Smith_2126759b.jpg)
US man charged with eating brains of his homeless murder victim
A US man charged with hacking a homeless man to death with an axe and eating his brain was ordered Wednesday to undergo a psychiatric evaluation.
Tyree Smith stands for arraignment in Superior Court in Bridgeport, Connecticut Photo: AP
12:00AM GMT 02 Feb 2012
Tyree Lincoln Smith, 35, stared blankly as he stood with his hands chained behind his back as he was charged with murder in a Connecticut court.
Smith is charged in the December 15 killing of Angel Gonzalez, whose body was found on the third floor of an abandoned home.
Prosecutor Donal Collimore urged the judge to set a high figure for a bail bond, describing the crime as "extremely heinous."
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Talitcha Frazier, a sister-in-law of the victim, said she remembered seeing Smith asking for change on the street.
"I think at the time I told him to get a job. I had no idea then that he had killed my brother-in-law," Frasier said on the courthouse steps after the hearing.
Smith came to the attention of authorities when his cousin contacted police about Gonzalez's slaying.
The cousin told detectives that Smith had arrived at her house on December 15 and said he wanted to "get blood on his hands" before going to the abandoned home, where he used to live.
The next day, Smith returned to the cousin's house with blood on his pants, hands and an axe, according to court documents.
Smith's cousin said he told her that he was sleeping on a porch at the abandoned home when he was awakened by another man and invited inside. Then Smith described beating the man's face and head with the axe and collecting one of his eyes and some of his brain, which he consumed in a nearby cemetery, the affidavit said.
The cousin told detectives she called Smith's mother, who suggested to police on December 16 that they check the abandoned home and that her son had "mental issues," the affidavit said.
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Creepy! It will be interesting to find out if he gets some kind of prion disease from doing that.
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didn't we see this episode last week?
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Yeah, I already posted on this. Despite the fact that the victim was Hispanic and the cannibal black, police decided against calling this a hate crime. Great shot of the Mike Tyson wannabe, though. ;D
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I've seen enough of these types of stories to think maybe this was a new one. It doesn't seem like some of them can control the more primal urges at all. I still wonder if his own brain (what little there is of it) will melt from eating the other person's brain.
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Yeah, I already posted on this. Despite the fact that the victim was Hispanic and the cannibal black, police decided against calling this a hate crime. Great shot of the Mike Tyson wannabe, though. ;D
Ooops. I actually thought this was a different cannibal instance.
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I've seen enough of these types of stories to think maybe this was a new one. It doesn't seem like some of them can control the more primal urges at all. I still wonder if his own brain (what little there is of it) will melt from eating the other person's brain.
I think the odds are very law because the victim would himself have to be suffering from this brain destroying prion.
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I think the odds are very law because the victim would himself have to be suffering from this brain destroying prion.
I just wish that the murderer would have something happen to him which would be just as horrible as what he did.
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He should be locked in a cell with Travis the Chimp. Let's see how he fares with his own kind.
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He should be locked in a cell with Travis the Chimp. Let's see how he fares with his own kind.
Travis is dead but I'm sure there are other crazy animals he could be locked up with.
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Travis is dead but I'm sure there are other crazy animals he could be locked up with.
I know but I think most chimps, especially males, are not hard to arouse into psychotic rages. It is how they were designed.
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I've seen enough of these types of stories to think maybe this was a new one. It doesn't seem like some of them can control the more primal urges at all. I still wonder if his own brain (what little there is of it) will melt from eating the other person's brain.
yes, only blacks commit bizarre murders. No member of any other group of people ever does that. Clearly they have more "primal urges" (you know, since eating brains is in fact a primal urge people have to control every day)
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I know but I think most chimps, especially males, are not hard to arouse into psychotic rages. It is how they were designed.
That's true. I think over a certain age most primates get that way, apes, monkeys, and lemurs. I read a sad story one time about this woman who had a pet monkey who was such a sweetheart when it was little but as soon as it went through puberty it turned into a face-attacking, biting little monster, and she felt heartbroken that she could never have that same relationship with her pet anymore and had to keep it safely in its enclosure.
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He was trying to use his logic: "Hmmm, if I eat his brains, then I'll get extra intelligence."
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yes, only blacks commit bizarre murders. No member of any other group of people ever does that. Clearly they have more "primal urges" (you know, since eating brains is in fact a primal urge people have to control every day)
:::D
The problem with your argument t h j is that blacks commit crimes out of proportion to their population. I see more of these types of bizarre stories from them even though it's true that people from other groups do things like that too.
I think cannibalism is rooted in a more primitive mindset. In the hunter-gatherer past of all peoples, it was practiced to some degree. Today the modern cannibals can mostly be found in sub-Saharan Africans and in Australoids like those in Papua New Guinea (unless there's a famine or major starvation when almost any group of people can become cannibalistic). There might still be something lingering in the culture related to cannibalism because it was such a common practice in Africa before their ancestors were brought here. Every news story I've seen for the past several years that had a cannibalism aspect to it involved a black perpetrator. I don't know why there is this connection but there is.
It's true that there were cases of non-blacks doing the same thing, like Jeffrey Dahmer. It just seems to happen more often from blacks for some reason.
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This is a win win situation, we got rid of a homeless person and this nut is off the street.
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yes, only blacks commit bizarre murders. No member of any other group of people ever does that. Clearly they have more "primal urges" (you know, since eating brains is in fact a primal urge people have to control every day)
You forgot about the Thugee, which I learned about thanks to Indiana Jones.
(http://www.wildsoundmovies.com/images/indiana_jones_monkey_brain.jpg)
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You forgot about the Thugee, which I learned about thanks to Indiana Jones.
(http://www.wildsoundmovies.com/images/indiana_jones_monkey_brain.jpg)
The Thugee were Indians from India if I'm not mistaken.
This is a win win situation, we got rid of a homeless person and this nut is off the street.
A lot of people are homeless these days and it can happen to all kinds of people. Many homeless people have mental problems that are untreated. Not all of them are alcoholics or drug abusers, and even if they are, they are still human beings, and I don't wish for them to be murdered.
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The Thugee were Indians from India if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, and I believe their customs were suppressed by the British. They worshiped the 'Kali' the goddess of death or something and killed lots of people as part of their rituals.
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Yes, and I believe their customs were suppressed by the British. They worshiped the 'Kali' the goddess of death or something and killed lots of people as part of their rituals.
Yes I've also heard of this and posted about Kali before. I think I was asked to tone it down about Indians though and how they were forced to be more civilized. lol
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This is a win win situation, we got rid of a homeless person and this nut is off the street.
Nice, nice Johnson, it's great that you advocate genocide against people down on their luck. Just what JTF needs.
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The Thugee were Indians from India if I'm not mistaken.
A lot of people are homeless these days and it can happen to all kinds of people. Many homeless people have mental problems that are untreated. Not all of them are alcoholics or drug abusers, and even if they are, they are still human beings, and I don't wish for them to be murdered.
I'm just glad you never had to deal with homeless people.
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Here is a plan to feed the homeless and many of you aren't going to like it.
You know there are a lot of pigeons around in the big cities, why don't they give the homeless clubs and hibachis so they can club the pigeon and cook them and have food everyday.
Remember the old saying "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
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Was this guy a zombie?
brains brains!!!! :::D
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Here is a plan to feed the homeless and many of you aren't going to like it.
You know there are a lot of pigeons around in the big cities, why don't they give the homeless clubs and hibachis so they can club the pigeon and cook them and have food everyday.
Remember the old saying "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
:::D :::D You might be on to something... An old Iowa sharecropper I use to work with once told me his mom would send him out to the barn to knock down some of the pigeons that roosted in the rafters... She would fix them for dinner whenever they had company. :o
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The problem with your argument t h j is that blacks commit crimes out of proportion to their population. I see more of these types of bizarre stories from them even though it's true that people from other groups do things like that too.
I think cannibalism is rooted in a more primitive mindset. In the hunter-gatherer past of all peoples, it was practiced to some degree. Today the modern cannibals can mostly be found in sub-Saharan Africans and in Australoids like those in Papua New Guinea (unless there's a famine or major starvation when almost any group of people can become cannibalistic). There might still be something lingering in the culture related to cannibalism because it was such a common practice in Africa before their ancestors were brought here. Every news story I've seen for the past several years that had a cannibalism aspect to it involved a black perpetrator. I don't know why there is this connection but there is.
It's true that there were cases of non-blacks doing the same thing, like Jeffrey Dahmer. It just seems to happen more often from blacks for some reason.
Prove it. Post evidence and statistics.
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I said it seems. In other words it seems to me from the stories I've seen about these types of crimes, that black perpetrators outnumber non-black perpetrators when it comes to cannibalism. I'm not actively looking for those types of stories most of the time, but when I do see them, I remember the perps being black the majority of the time. If you can find evidence to the contrary I'll take a look at it, but I doubt anyone keeps official statistics on "black cannibalism rates" or "white cannibalism rates".
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I said it seems. In other words it seems to me from the stories I've seen about these types of crimes, that black perpetrators outnumber non-black perpetrators when it comes to cannibalism. I'm not actively looking for those types of stories most of the time, but when I do see them, I remember the perps being black the majority of the time. If you can find evidence to the contrary I'll take a look at it, but I doubt anyone keeps official statistics on "black cannibalism rates" or "white cannibalism rates".
Thanks for admitting to making a completely baseless and absurd claim.
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Rubystars did you really mean more often from blacks or did you just mean mean disproportionately more from blacks? I'm pretty sure that slightly less than just as often from blacks is a reasonable default position based on other murder statistics, which would be disproportionately greater from blacks than from whites.
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Thanks for admitting to making a completely baseless and absurd claim.
I didn't make any claims other than that it seems to be that way from looking at the news stories coming out. This was based in something, the actual news stories I've seen. If you can find actual statistics on cannibalism-specific crimes based on demographics, then I'll be happy to look at them. As it is, all I can go by is what I see reported in the news, which I think is also what you can go by.
Rubystars did you really mean more often from blacks or did you just mean mean disproportionately more from blacks? I'm pretty sure that slightly less than just as often from blacks is a reasonable default position based on other murder statistics, which would be disproportionately greater from blacks than from whites.
I think that it happens more often with blacks based on the news stories I've seen. Also modern cannibalism stories do tend to come from Africa such as the stories about pygmies being hunted for meat or African albinos being killed and their parts sold for magical rituals. It's demonstrably true that blacks commit crimes in general out of proportion to their population, but as I mentioned getting statistics on cannibalism crimes by demographics would be difficult.
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Thanks for admitting to making a completely baseless and absurd claim.
I have found people need to have the black experience first hand to really understand it's full potential... G-d willing most people will never know what evil blacks really are capable of.
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I have found people need to have the black experience first hand to really understand it's full potential... G-d willing most people will never know what evil blacks really are capable of.
You have an excellent point there. It's not that I think black people in general are necessarily inherently evil, and certainly individuals can be the exception that proves the rule, but you do have to be cautious in proportion to the very real increased risk of that population in general.
It's not racist to be smart about the risks associated with a high-crime demographic, or to notice that they are a high-crime demographic.
So many blacks have been brought up to HATE, with a passion. Most white people are too trusting, and don't want to judge badly other people, especially not based on race. There is deep and heavy programming there to keep them in check. Everything from public school, tv shows, popular music, and their own families indoctrinate them into being 'colorblind'. Most of them know they're not welcome at night in certain neighborhoods, but they use a sort of doublethink to avoid those situations. They don't want to actually admit, at least not openly, and often not even to themselves, that they see blacks as being more dangerous.
Blacks on the other hand have been raised to believe that all their troubles in life, from not having enough money to not getting the job they want, etc. is all because of white racism. This message is reinforced by schools, media, etc. too. This creates a resentment and a hatred that is deep-seated and very difficult to dislodge.
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I have found people need to have the black experience first hand to really understand it's full potential... G-d willing most people will never know what evil blacks really are capable of.
How do you know that i'm not black myself?
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How do you know that i'm not black myself?
What interest is that to me? If your black your black... Why should that make a difference in my position.
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What interest is that to me? If your black your black... Why should that make a difference in my position.
You're talking about people needing to have the "black experience"
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Poor monkey wants to get smart.. :::D
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How do you know that i'm not black myself?
When we talk about populations, you realize that doesn't apply to individuals necessarily. Overall the black population has a greater tendency toward criminality, but that doesn't mean that any random black person is a criminal or would be more inclined to criminality (I say that with the caveat that I do think it's reasonable to be more cautious because of the larger overall trend). Overall, the black population and the white population are taught that the suffering of blacks is the fault of white people, but that doesn't make every black individual hate white people or every white individual be a self-loathing, apologetic person.
We have had black members of this site. If I recall correctly one of them was a well-respected moderator.
In my experience, black people know better than others what their community is often like and will tell it to me straight if the subject comes up. I've had pretty productive conversations about these things with reasonable black people. I had a black boss who used to tell me to let her know if any of her "cousins" came into the store, and she had all of us employees profile them. You can't put this down to racism, at least not in the sense of one race hating another race. She knew the score just as well as anybody else and was pro-active about it.
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I believe t_h_j is half black. He mentioned it casually in one of his posts a while back.
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I believe t_h_j is half black. He mentioned it casually in one of his posts a while back.
Yes, he mentioned that some time back... I don't have a problem with that... The thing is that while he might be a fine upstanding person the vast majority of blacks are not fine and upstanding... Not talking about it is not going to change that fact.
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Yes, he mentioned that some time back... I don't have a problem with that... The thing is that while he might be a fine upstanding person the vast majority of blacks are not fine and upstanding... Not talking about it is not going to change that fact.
True it really doesn't change anything. It's not like we're personally attacking him or saying that HE is a certain way. Experience has taught us to be wary, this is not his fault but it's not our fault either. We'd be fools to blunder blindly forward as if we'd never learned anything.