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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on August 05, 2012, 01:37:55 PM
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NEW YORK: About eight to 20 people were injured on Sunday in a shooting that took place at a gurdwara in Wisconsin, according to media reports.
The shooting occurred at around 11 am (local time) today at the Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, the Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel reported.
Oak Creek police, the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Department and other law enforcement agencies have responded. The police has not given out any further details.
Initial reports said a witness to the shooting told law enforcement agents that the shooter was a heavy build, bald white male wearing a sleeveless T-shirt.
He was last seen with two handguns.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Firing-at-a-gurdwara-in-US-several-injured/articleshow/15366621.cms
Did the shooter think the Sikhs were Taliban with the turban?
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Seriously how could you mistake a Sikh for a member of the Taliban? They aren't even Muslim.
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I wonder if it was a socialist nazi type they can't tell difference in looks btw a Sikh a qurananimal.Any one with brains can easily see the difference
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It does not seem to be a case of mistaken identity, because taking hostages is perhaps also involved. So we have to wait and see.
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Now democrats will float a Sikh candidate in some state to garner sympathy votes from the people.
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Very sad. I feel very bad for all of them.
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Before we start our prayers for those departed soul, let us not forget that there are Sikh organizations in USA and Canada who are pro-Pakistan and pro-Palestine. There are many propaganda videos by these sikhs claiming that Hindus persecute them in India.
Check this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj9LRRYEPgE
These Sikhs believe that Mossad works with Hindu Nationalist leaders in India to eliminate them :::D
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Before we start our prayers for those departed soul, …
Wait, people died? I thought only people were injured. So sad it got tragic.
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Wait, people died? I thought only people were injured. So sad it got tragic.
6 according to my source
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It seems that every day we have some mass shooting in this country. Growing up in the middle of collapse of Yugoslavia's society in 90's, when many lost not just their livelihood but family members, I never heard of people going into public places and shooting others to relieve their anger. What is going on with Americans today?
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6 according to my source
That's too sad. I hope it includes the shooter.
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Is it possible that the shooter could have been a Muslim?
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Is it possible that the shooter could have been a Muslim?
Supposedly it was a WN. Who knows. Not to sound like a Nazi Paul fan but I wonder if this incident, the Batman shooting incident, etc. are conspiracies or false-flag incidents.
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Supposedly it was a WN. Who knows. Not to sound like a Nazi Paul fan but I wonder if this incident, the Batman shooting incident, etc. are conspiracies or false-flag incidents.
Good point!
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Good point!
Good point!
You don't sound like a paultard.
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That's what I wondered when I saw this article. This type of thing has happened before--people attacking Sikhs thinking they were Muslims, and it gets me mad everytime I hear about it. Just think of all the killed or injured Muslims we could have if people weren't so stupid.
what we suspected might be true.
dressed in a white T-shirt and black pants and with a 9/11 tattoo on one arm -- which "implies to me that there's some level of hate crime there."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/US-gurdwara-killing-Shooter-was-a-white-man-with-9/11-tattoo/articleshow/15372249.cms
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It is a very painful incident. If it is a case of mistaken identity, then this pain increases by manyfold, considering the cruel understanding that the hapless victims were mistaken for the muslamics or taliban etc.
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Syyuge always makes the most witty, concise, insightful short posts!
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That's what I wondered when I saw this article. This type of thing has happened before--people attacking Sikhs thinking they were Muslims, and it gets me mad everytime I hear about it. Just think of all the killed or injured Muslims we could have if people weren't so stupid.
I was thinking the same thing
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Before we start our prayers for those departed soul, let us not forget that there are Sikh organizations in USA and Canada who are pro-Pakistan and pro-Palestine. There are many propaganda videos by these sikhs claiming that Hindus persecute them in India.
Check this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj9LRRYEPgE
These Sikhs believe that Mossad works with Hindu Nationalist leaders in India to eliminate them :::D
I didn't know hey were pro Arab
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Supposedly it was a WN. Who knows. Not to sound like a Nazi Paul fan but I wonder if this incident, the Batman shooting incident, etc. are conspiracies or false-flag incidents.
It's very possible. don't think a W.S. would care about 9/11
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Good point!
You don't sound like a paultard.
I'm not. But it would not surprise me if the left had something to do with these incidents to bring on more gun control. Example being operation fast and furious.
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Syyuge always makes the most witty, concise, insightful short posts!
Many Thanx!
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Supposedly it was a WN. Who knows. Not to sound like a Nazi Paul fan but I wonder if this incident, the Batman shooting incident, etc. are conspiracies or false-flag incidents.
7 people and i think one might include the shooter. The news had to mention that it was a white guy that did the shooting.
I find it reprehensible the shooting. At the same time I can't stand the double standard as well. The news says it was a white guy, but when a Muslim Nazi does something, it's concealed most of the time.
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7 people and i think one might include the shooter. The news had to mention that it was a white guy that did the shooting.
I find it reprehensible the shooting. At the same time I can't stand the double standard as well. The news says it was a white guy, but when a Muslim Nazi does something, it's concealed most of the time.
Yeah, well, get used to it. This is the current environment that has been 50 years in the making in this country. This is an act of domestic terrorism and a hate crime but the Fort Hood massacre was "a terrible tragedy".
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This is so Islam-styled. I think probably a Muslim did this. Anyone know of the shooter's religious/ethnical background?
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I also think that only some muslamic could have done this. May be some type of WN-muslamic.
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I don't think it was a Muslim who did this. Just some crazed WN-wannabe.
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The last two shooters have some similarity here:
Last one was a “psychological operations specialist”.
The earlier one the Joker was a former graduate student in "neuroscience".
Some distant relations with Sigmund Freud and Karl Jung.
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Wisconsin shooter was identified as a white supremacist
(http://rt.com/files/usa/news/shooter-white-page-band-990/wwwmyspacecomendapathyband-image.n.jpg)
A nonprofit group that monitors white supremacists began tracking the Sikh Temple shooting suspect Wade Michael Page after he tried to purchase goods from neo-Nazis in 2000. This morning, the group republished an interview with the suspect.
The Southern Poverty Law Center called Wade Michael Page “a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.” In 2010, Page gave an interview to white supremacist website Label 56 regarding his band End Apathy.
Page had been a part of the white power music scene since 2000 and also played in hate rock bands.
The suspected shooter said his band’s “concept was based on trying to figure out what it would take to actually accomplish positive results in society and what is holding us back. A lot of what I realized at the time was that if we could figure out how to end people’s apathetic ways, it would be the start towards moving forward.”
Page said he was inspired to start the band out of frustration that people don’t take advantage of their potential. In 2000, the Colorado native left his home state to go on a cross-country road trip with nothing aside from his motorcycle and a backpack. Shortly thereafter, he moved to California and started his band.
“The topics vary from sociological issues, religion, and how the value of human life has been degraded by being submissive to tyranny and hypocrisy that we are subjugated to,” Page said in the interview, describing the type of music his band liked to create.
While on his cross-country road trip, Page attended white power concerts in Colorado, Georgia, North Carolina and West Virginia.
Police have not yet identified the motive of the shooter, who was also found shot dead at the scene, but his affiliation with white supremacist groups may have been a contributing factor.
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Dumb Nazi scumbag. This is the kind of Nazi I would enjoy seeing shot multiple times... I hope they have his take-down on video...
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I hope he suffers terrible pain in hell and his dead relatives watch.
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There were Indian Jews sometime back !
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There were Indian Jews sometime back !
Still are. I know a few.
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It is a very sad story. I think it was a Nazi, according to the news I saw.
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:dance:
A truly despicable and sick act and a reflection of the horrendous moral decay of these times.
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I hope he suffers terrible pain in hell and his dead relatives watch.
I saw his mother on T.V.sometimes people come from normal families ad his mother looks like a good woman and talks like a good woman as well so does his father. He was an Alcoholic as well
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It was done by a neonazi animal
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I wish that the Sikhs are amply able to explain it to the relevant others, that they are different and that they are not muslamics. That may suffice.
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Sikhs will never be muslims! They are good people who have faith in God and would never belong to that murdering death-cult!
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I have always known that Sikhs are not muslims. I know the guy who owns the convenience store near me is a Sikh, so is a toll collector on my drive home.... I have no animosity toward them, they seem like very nice people.
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I have always known that Sikhs are not muslims. I know the guy who owns the convenience store near me is a Sikh, so is a toll collector on my drive home.... I have no animosity toward them, they seem like very nice people.
And they hate Pakistan ;D
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Protecting the religious and political rights of all people and preventing discrimination is an integral part of the Sikh faith. The 5th Guru Arjan Dev was martyred by the Mughal ruler Jahangir on 16 May 1606 for refusing to convert to Islam. The martyrdom of Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Ji 9th Guru to protect Hindus from religious persecution, in Delhi, on 11 November 1675 AD, is another example of upholding minority religious freedom; he gave his life to protect the right of Kashmiri Hindus to practise their own religion when they were being forced to convert to Islam by Aurangzeb, the Mughal emperor at the time.
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I really like all Indians. Except for the ones who pretend to be gangsta, yo.
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I really like all Indians. Except for the ones who pretend to be gangsta, yo.
And all the damned Muslims from India!
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And all the damned Muslims from India!
Well I figured that was obvious.
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The above is a fact.
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If this was a neo-Nazi then it probably wasn't a case of mistaken identity because Nazis support Muslims.
Yes! And Sikhs are avowed opponents of muslamic terrorism.
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Yes! And Sikhs are avowed opponents of muslamic terrorism.
Sikhs and Hindu are very close. I see them both here in NYC, they live together peacefully.
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Are Sikhs idalators like Hindus? I've heard they were Hindus but believe in one G-d which they got from Islam and that it's a blend of the two. I also heard from a Hindu nationalist online who was friendly with the "JDL" under Irv Rubin that Westerners made up that Sikhism is a separate religion and he said he's a Sikh Hindu.
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Are Sikhs idalators like Hindus? I've heard they were Hindus but believe in one G-d which they got from Islam and that it's a blend of the two. I also heard from a Hindu nationalist online who was friendly with the "JDL" under Irv Rubin that Westerners made up that Sikhism is a separate religion and he said he's a Sikh Hindu.
The media claims it is a monotheistic faith..
Wiki confirms this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh
A Sikh (/siːk/ or /sɪk/; Punjabi: ਸਿੱਖ, sikkh [sɪkkʰ]) is a follower of Sikhism, a religion that originated in the 15th century in the Punjab region of South Asia. The term "Sikh" has its origin in Sanskrit term शिष्य (śiṣya), meaning disciple, student, or शिक्ष (śikṣa) ("instruction").[24][25] A Sikh is a disciple/subject of the Guru.
According to Article I of the "Rehat Maryada" (the Sikh code of conduct and conventions), a Sikh is defined as "any human being who faithfully believes in One Immortal Being; ten Gurus, from Guru Nanak Dev to Sri Guru Gobind Singh; Sri Guru Granth Sahib; the teachings of the ten Gurus and the baptism bequeathed by the tenth Guru; and who does not owe allegiance to any other religion".[26] Sikhs believe in the equality of humankind, the concept of universal brotherhood of man and One Supreme God (Ik Onkar).
Most male Sikhs have Singh (lion) and most female Sikhs Kaur (princess) as their surname. Sikhs who have undergone the khanḍe-kī-pahul, the Sikh initiation ceremony, can also be recognized by the Five Ks: uncut hair (Kesh); an iron/steel bracelet (kara); a Kirpan, a sword tucked in a gatra strap; Kachehra, a type of special shorts; and a Kanga, a small comb to keep the hair clean. Male Sikhs cover their hair with a turban, while female Sikhs may wear a turban or a headscarf.
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The media claims it is a monotheistic faith..
Wiki confirms this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh
I like Sikhs and Hindus and support them both against pisslam.
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Eating meat killed in a ritualistic manner (Kutha meat): Sikhs are strictly prohibited from eating meat killed in a ritualistic manner (such as halal or kosher, known as Kutha meat[7] ), or any meat where langar is served.[8] In some small Sikh Sects, i.e. Akhand Kirtani Jatha eating any meat is believed to be forbidden, but this is not a universally held belief.[9] The meat eaten by Sikhs is known as Jhatka meat.
Yet it seems they have their own slaughter.
Jhatka or Chatka meat (Hindi झटका Hindustani pronunciation: [dʒʰəʈkɑ] jhaṭkā, Punjabi: ਝਟਕਾ IPA: [tʃə̀ʈkɑ] chàṭkā, from Sanskrit ghātaka "killing") is meat from an animal which has been killed by a single strike of a sword or axe to sever the head, as opposed to Jewish slaughter (shechita) or Islamic slaughter (dhabihah) in which the animal is killed by ritually slicing the throat.
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They're hypocrites.
Jhatka for Sikhs is the antithesis[1][2] of ritual slaughter. As stated in the official Khalsa Code of Conduct,[3] Kutha meat is forbidden, and Sikhs are recommended to eat the jhatka form of meat, as they do not believe that any ritual gives meat a spiritual virtue (ennobles the flesh).[4][5]
For Sikhs jhatka karna or jhatkaund refers to the instantaneous severing of the head of an animal with a single stroke of any weapon, with the underlying intention of killing the animal whilst causing it minimal suffering.
During the British Raj, jhatka meat was not allowed in jails and Sikh detainees during the Akali movement and beyond had to resort to violence and agitations to secure this right. Among the terms in the settlement between the Akalis and the Muslim Unionist government in Punjab in 1942 was that jhatka meat be continued as a Sikh Martial Heritage.
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Hindu and Sikh both if they eat meat are supposed to eat only Jhataka meat. Sikhs do it firmly on sacred religious grounds but Hindus sometimes keep on failing.
All kinds of opinions keep on rolling and coming and going whether Sikhs are not Hindus or Sikhs are among Hindus or Sikhs are only real Hindus.
I am not Sikh but out of their 5 Ks, I regularly apply 4 Ks.
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I wonder if any Sikhs at JTF.
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Sikhism or Jainism or Buddhism may sound different to the outsider. But for us all these are conglomerate of Hinduism.
Sacred places/Holy places of Sikhs/Jains/Buddhists are common.
For example Mount Kailash is famous holy place for Hindus as well as Tibetans Monks. Hindus have stories denoting how Hindu deities are symbolized by these mountains, while Tibetan Buddhists have stories claiming their oldest monks to thave attained nirvana there. The Highest Sikh Guru (Guru Nanak) extensively traveled across Himalayas and considered mount kailash to have spiritual significance.
In Sikh holy books (Guru granth Sahib), Both Muslim G-d (Allah) and Hindu deity (Ram) are mentioned as different names of the same One Almighty G-d.
Majority of Hindus in India believe that Sikhism was started as per the will of the G-d, to fight Islamic effect/rule in India, as well as to reduce the animosity between Hindus and Muslims
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If this was a neo-Nazi then it probably wasn't a case of mistaken identity because Nazis support Muslims.
I wonder if the Pakistanis had any connections to this… Hmmm…