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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ftf on July 02, 2007, 06:36:43 PM
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I think loads of people ahve been all up tight recently, the purpose of this topic os for everyone to just chill out. Talk about whatever you like and relax.
Here's some nice relaxing music:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SkEfnPndEnI <<Maybe I was joking about relaxing...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MndLRdPsuJE <<This ones really relaxing
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1unzN2zsA4k <<In case you're now too relaxed
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ai-iXXVeuwA <<And time to calm it down again
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cYZhUhlqPok <<Because we're all slightly mental inside
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBEYyHGbwto <<And a slightly relaxing/slightly deppressing song to wind up
I hope my warped taste in music doesn't upset anyone.
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Good idea
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I have the same taste in music as you. Except for the emo songs.
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I think loads of people ahve been all up tight recently, the purpose of this topic os for everyone to just chill out. Talk about whatever you like and relax.
Here's some nice relaxing music:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SkEfnPndEnI <<Maybe I was joking about relaxing...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MndLRdPsuJE <<This ones really relaxing
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1unzN2zsA4k <<In case you're now too relaxed
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ai-iXXVeuwA <<And time to calm it down again
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cYZhUhlqPok <<Because we're all slightly mental inside
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBEYyHGbwto <<And a slightly relaxing/slightly deppressing song to wind up
I hope my warped taste in music doesn't upset anyone.
"let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.......FLOOOOOOOOR!!!!!!!!!!"
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Nice music ;D
Here is the music thet I like :
Metallica :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w1mgEQTMVB8
Led Zeppelin (very very good song) :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_mNjd-hnxbs
Rammstein (German Song :o) :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=doTBT46wMvA&mode=related&search=
OffSpring :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nZaliWszgGk
;D
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Led Zeppelin is the BEST band ever. I could show you tons of great music Dexter, looking at your list it seems like you could use some. Hehe
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Led Zeppelin is the BEST band ever. I could show you tons of great music Dexter, looking at your list it seems like you could use some. Hehe
hehe ;D
Here is another great song of Led Zeppelin
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RWB8jhxDmGI
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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I think loads of people ahve been all up tight recently, the purpose of this topic os for everyone to just chill out. Talk about whatever you like and relax.
Here's some nice relaxing music:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SkEfnPndEnI <<Maybe I was joking about relaxing...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MndLRdPsuJE <<This ones really relaxing
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1unzN2zsA4k <<In case you're now too relaxed
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ai-iXXVeuwA <<And time to calm it down again
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cYZhUhlqPok <<Because we're all slightly mental inside
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBEYyHGbwto <<And a slightly relaxing/slightly deppressing song to wind up
I hope my warped taste in music doesn't upset anyone.
"let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.......FLOOOOOOOOR!!!!!!!!!!"
" 1 somethings got to give 2 somethigns go to give 3 somethings got to give...oooooooooooooh!"
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Well... I think I'm going to open up a little and share then since we are talking about some good music in here. I am a musician and have played the guitar since I was a little kid. Here are a couple of small clips for you to enjoy. (this is a little embarrassing lol)
Here I am singing. I am also playing everything except the drums (drum machine):
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3)
I just upgraded my drums and they sound MUCH better:
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3)
Hope you enjoy my little demos. I wrote and played everything you hear. :) Usually, this is very private to me but I thought I'd share something. I wanted to make an album with JTF type themes - which I think would be popular. I know you will all be shocked. lol
By the way, Scriabin is quite an accomplished pianist. I heard him play and it was incredible... INCREDIBLE. We have some amazing musicians on the forum.
jeffguy
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Well... I think I'm going to open up a little and share then since we are talking about some good music in here. I am a musician and have played the guitar since I was a little kid. Here are a couple of small clips for you to enjoy. (this is a little embarrassing lol)
Here I am singing. I am also playing everything except the drums (drum machine):
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3)
I just upgraded my drums and they sound MUCH better:
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3)
Hope you enjoy my little demos. I wrote and played everything you hear. :) Usually, this is very private to me but I thought I'd share something. I wanted to make an album with JTF type themes - which I think would be popular. I know you will all be shocked. lol
By the way, Scriabin is quite an accomplished pianist. I heard him play and it was incredible... INCREDIBLE. We have some amazing musicians on the forum.
jeffguy
We should have good musicians here. Isn't musical aptitude part of the jewish stereo-type like business accumen? LOL
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Isn't musical aptitude part of the jewish stereo-type?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1hgzvuR-tk
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Well... I think I'm going to open up a little and share then since we are talking about some good music in here. I am a musician and have played the guitar since I was a little kid. Here are a couple of small clips for you to enjoy. (this is a little embarrassing lol)
Here I am singing. I am also playing everything except the drums (drum machine):
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3)
I just upgraded my drums and they sound MUCH better:
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3)
Hope you enjoy my little demos. I wrote and played everything you hear. :) Usually, this is very private to me but I thought I'd share something. I wanted to make an album with JTF type themes - which I think would be popular. I know you will all be shocked. lol
By the way, Scriabin is quite an accomplished pianist. I heard him play and it was incredible... INCREDIBLE. We have some amazing musicians on the forum.
jeffguy
Jeff, as soon as I figure out how to open these, I'll listen to them.
You know all about my technical shortcomings. ;)
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;D
http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/134790/drum_and_bass/Hydravlik_a_k_a_Ultrythm_Respekt_Full_Version
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Here is a good one:
http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/52540/confutatis/G.%20P.%20da%20Palestrina%20-%20Tu%20es%20Petrus%20%28Westminster%20Cathedral%20Choir%29
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=rBYPxDGdi-w
Bring on the night by The Police and Sting
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gVK6Lz1185I
Someone could lose a heart tonight by eddie rabbit
I would post other songs by pantera, alice in chains, varoius rock artists but I wont do so in a religious forum.
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Well... I think I'm going to open up a little and share then since we are talking about some good music in here. I am a musician and have played the guitar since I was a little kid. Here are a couple of small clips for you to enjoy. (this is a little embarrassing lol)
Here I am singing. I am also playing everything except the drums (drum machine):
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3)
I just upgraded my drums and they sound MUCH better:
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3)
Hope you enjoy my little demos. I wrote and played everything you hear. :) Usually, this is very private to me but I thought I'd share something. I wanted to make an album with JTF type themes - which I think would be popular. I know you will all be shocked. lol
By the way, Scriabin is quite an accomplished pianist. I heard him play and it was incredible... INCREDIBLE. We have some amazing musicians on the forum.
jeffguy
You are a good singer jeffguy
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Great jeffguy!
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Well... I think I'm going to open up a little and share then since we are talking about some good music in here. I am a musician and have played the guitar since I was a little kid. Here are a couple of small clips for you to enjoy. (this is a little embarrassing lol)
Here I am singing. I am also playing everything except the drums (drum machine):
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-vocals.mp3)
I just upgraded my drums and they sound MUCH better:
http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3 (http://www.mindnugget.com/test-drums.mp3)
Hope you enjoy my little demos. I wrote and played everything you hear. :) Usually, this is very private to me but I thought I'd share something. I wanted to make an album with JTF type themes - which I think would be popular. I know you will all be shocked. lol
By the way, Scriabin is quite an accomplished pianist. I heard him play and it was incredible... INCREDIBLE. We have some amazing musicians on the forum.
jeffguy
You know what's funny I was thinking the other day how I wanted to write some songs dealing with JTF. I didn't mention it because it seems like a ridiculous idea but I'm glad there's someone else who has thought about it. If anyone wants to collaborate I can play guitar, bass, keyboards, mandolin and sing as well.
You have a really good scream Jeffguy! I definitely can't do that. I like that guitar sound as well. The only thing I could recommend is louder bass and more technical drum part on the first tune. It would definitely give more OOMPH
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How's this for a song? A slight modification of Roger Miller's 'England swings'......:
'England swings like a pendulum do, bombers on buses two by two
Westminster Abbey , the tower-Big Ben,cutting off the clits of the little children............'
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How's this for a song? A slight modification of Roger Miller's 'England swings'......:
'England swings like a pendulum do, bombers on buses two by two
Westminster Abbey , the tower-Big Ben,cutting off the clits of the little children............'
Haha, this would definitely make a good metal song. I would like to write an angry song about the destruction of Britain that would be fun.
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This was meant to be a chill out topic, no discussion about serious issues is allowed, if you're posting in here just chill.
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You have a really good scream Jeffguy! I definitely can't do that. I like that guitar sound as well. The only thing I could recommend is louder bass and more technical drum part on the first tune. It would definitely give more OOMPH
Thank you!! Ya, I was just trying to demo my singing on the first one. The drums were only a drum machine. I can sing a lot of different styles.
The second one was a drum test, so I did exactly what you said with the drums (and bass). Plus, that's a new bass guitar in the second recording. I like it's sound a lot more.
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Wow Jeffguy you're awesome! I'm your NO1 fan! :D
I've recorded the "WAKE UP" part of your song and put it onto my alarm clock, it woke me up straight away this morning, all in good spirits! ;D
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Thank you. *blush*
You can set your alarm clock sound?
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I have the same taste in music as you. Except for the emo songs.
Which of those songs are you calling emo?
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The loud ones...
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The loud ones...
None of those songs are emo. I'll link you to some emo stuff if you want, but I doubt you'd like it.
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Thank you. *blush*
You can set your alarm clock sound?
Yep, you can record a sound and it'll use it as the alarm, usually i don't wake up with the default, i need real brainbashing sounds just so it stirs me.
Though its nothing fancy......just another plastic thing made in China.
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The loud ones...
None of those songs are emo. I'll link you to some emo stuff if you want, but I doubt you'd like it.
Yep, defintly the loud ones......with the monster looking creatures and painstaking shrills.
Its o.k i prefer keane and cold play. ;D
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slipknot are immoral anyway.
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The only one with monster masks is the slipknot song wait and bleed, it's not really an emo song, emo is nowhere near that upbeat...
And I know that slipknot do some rather immorral things, but everyone does some bad things, whoever I listen to there's going to be t least something bad that's been done by them, so why not slipknot? I think I prefer underoath though (the first song on the list), see if you can work out what the songs about.
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The only one with monster masks is the slipknot song wait and bleed, it's not really an emo song, emo is nowhere near that upbeat...
And I know that slipknot do some rather immorral things, but everyone does some bad things, whoever I listen to there's going to be t least something bad that's been done by them, so why not slipknot? I think I prefer underoath though (the first song on the list), see if you can work out what the songs about.
Nowhere near upbeat, how bad does it get?! I get bored of a certain genre of music nearly every other day, i like a lot of arabic music, even hebrew music is great.
I always wanted to play an instrument but my parents consider it bad.
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The only one with monster masks is the slipknot song wait and bleed, it's not really an emo song, emo is nowhere near that upbeat...
And I know that slipknot do some rather immorral things, but everyone does some bad things, whoever I listen to there's going to be t least something bad that's been done by them, so why not slipknot? I think I prefer underoath though (the first song on the list), see if you can work out what the songs about.
Nowhere near upbeat, how bad does it get?! I get bored of a certain genre of music nearly every other day, i like a lot of arabic music, even hebrew music is great.
I always wanted to play an instrument but my parents consider it bad.
Playing musical instruments is great, of course it is forbidden like most good things by strict islam...
What did you think of underoath?
Also, if you really want to know what emo is like: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xY9TPTaN0Us
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Underoath behave like maniacs, their song is ok but its too extreme!
And the gruesome style of Aiden Knife Blood Nightmare will never be erased from my memory............
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Underoath behave like maniacs, their song is ok but its too extreme!
And the gruesome style of Aiden Knife Blood Nightmare will never be erased from my memory............
Sorry if Aiden was upsetting, I did say "if you really want to know" I don't generally listen to emo, I prefer upbeat stuff.
Underoath is just great though, they're the only decent christian hard rock group I know of.
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Underoath behave like maniacs, their song is ok but its too extreme!
And the gruesome style of Aiden Knife Blood Nightmare will never be erased from my memory............
Sorry if Aiden was upsetting, I did say "if you really want to know" I don't generally listen to emo, I prefer upbeat stuff.
Underoath is just great though, they're the only decent christian hard rock group I know of.
No its fine ftf :)
I can never seem to relate hard rock with religion. The two just don't seem to match.
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Underoath behave like maniacs, their song is ok but its too extreme!
And the gruesome style of Aiden Knife Blood Nightmare will never be erased from my memory............
Sorry if Aiden was upsetting, I did say "if you really want to know" I don't generally listen to emo, I prefer upbeat stuff.
Underoath is just great though, they're the only decent christian hard rock group I know of.
No its fine ftf :)
I can never seem to relate hard rock with religion. The two just don't seem to match.
UNderoath don't generally have any religous lynes in their songs, they usually just sing about moral issues, if you could make out the lyrics of the sing I linked to, it's about all the problems caused by adultery.
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Here is something I really like. It's not a song, it's a tune from a movie:
http://www.rar.co.il/files/1183578474.mp3
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Here is something I really like. It's not a song, it's a tune from a movie:
http://www.rar.co.il/files/1183578474.mp3
Hmm, that's quite a relaxing tune.
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BTW ftf, emo music is NOT relaxing... you have broken your own rule of this thread ;)
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BTW ftf, emo music is NOT relaxing... you have broken your own rule of this thread ;)
I don't really like emo stiff, you're right it isn't relaxing, that's why I didn't link to it till Sarah asked about it.
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BTW ftf, emo music is NOT relaxing... you have broken your own rule of this thread ;)
I don't really like emo stiff, you're right it isn;t relaxing, that's why I didn't link to it till Sarah asked about it.
Rock music does chill (me).
Emo its dreck music (in my point of view).
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This kind of music chills me out http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DDOgYw5-pNs
All the stuff on that channel is really good.
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This kind of music chills me out http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DDOgYw5-pNs
All the stuff on that channel is really good.
I guess it's kinda relaxing, but I prefer stuff a bit more upbeat when clicking around the internet.
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BTW ftf, emo music is NOT relaxing... you have broken your own rule of this thread ;)
I don't really like emo stiff, you're right it isn;t relaxing, that's why I didn't link to it till Sarah asked about it.
Rock music does chill (me).
Emo its dreck music (in my point of view).
Haha! I thought-before ftf proved the difference-that rock, heavy metal and emo music were all the same.
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BTW ftf, emo music is NOT relaxing... you have broken your own rule of this thread ;)
I don't really like emo stiff, you're right it isn;t relaxing, that's why I didn't link to it till Sarah asked about it.
Rock music does chill (me).
Emo its dreck music (in my point of view).
Haha! I thought-before ftf proved the difference-that rock, heavy metal and emo music were all the same.
Emo is always about pain, death or suicide.
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This kind of music chills me out http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DDOgYw5-pNs
All the stuff on that channel is really good.
Yes it is. I like swing from the 1930's-40's:)
This is funny: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cIUpKfBqpgU
(you'd put the link in img tags so it didn't work correctly, I've removed them for you ~ftf)
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Here is something I really like. It's not a song, it's a tune from a movie:
http://www.rar.co.il/files/1183578474.mp3
Hmm, that's quite a relaxing tune.
Yeah, it certainly is relaxing. :)
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Another great song to chill out to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4MiC67seUY
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The only one with monster masks is the slipknot song wait and bleed, it's not really an emo song, emo is nowhere near that upbeat...
And I know that slipknot do some rather immorral things, but everyone does some bad things, whoever I listen to there's going to be t least something bad that's been done by them, so why not slipknot? I think I prefer underoath though (the first song on the list), see if you can work out what the songs about.
Emo is horrible.
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This kind of music chills me out http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DDOgYw5-pNs
All the stuff on that channel is really good.
Yes! Havent heard Take five in a long time.
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How I feel atm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmoB2svMld8
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Swim to the very depths of sublimity. :)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vDNsX4DtzZs
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Swim to the very depths of sublimity. :)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vDNsX4DtzZs
Far too cheerful for me right now.
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RISE to the utter HEIGHTS of Sublimity!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIsXmOHo7EA
I apologize for the solo singers. The notes are beautiful, but the singers are terrible.
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I feel absolutely terrible today. But this song, and a heavy drinking session this afternoon, should cure me!
http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/138592/diana_ross_coming/Diana%20Ross%20-%20I%27m%20Coming%20Out
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Budapest Klezmer Band - Yidl mit´n Fidl :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JxtPNEuPOwY
It's yiddish !
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qge-AZq-rvg
Instrumedley by dream theater... i regard these guys as the greatest progressive metal band of all time...........
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This is the typs of music that Yacov and newman's constant berating has pushed me into: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcuWVWkV4Vo
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This is the typs of music that Yacov and newman's constant berating has puched me into: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcuWVWkV4Vo
What?!
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Hey ftf, I wouldn't let it bother you anymore. It's dead and buried right?
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Hey ftf, I wouldn't let it bother you anymore. It's dead and buried right?
Yacov won't stop hating me as long as he draws breath.
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Nice chillout topic
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Nice chillout topic
Here's another chilling song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJBbBBezOSk
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Hey ftf, I wouldn't let it bother you anymore. It's dead and buried right?
Yacov won't stop hating me as long as he draws breath.
I hate sound ignorant but who is Yacov?
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Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim, you know, the really annoying administrator guy who is completely two faced and has double standards.
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I really don'nt know him :o
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Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim, you know, the really annoying administrator guy who is completely two faced and has double standards.
Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim is one of the good guys. Maybe the mods are flaming each other on their private forum? ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSzhMwOk3vY&mode=related&search=
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Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim, you know, the really annoying administrator guy who is completely two faced and has double standards.
Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim is one of the good guys. Maybe the mods are flaming each other on their private forum? ;D
No, this isn't happening. ftf, I thought all of that ended days ago. Has there been anything recent?
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Ended? He's banned me from enforcing the forum rules properly in my section, he's said that someone who called me drek and someone else who called me a cornhole are great righteous people, and though things have quieted down now, he has not taken back anything he said.
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I thought JSullivan straightend this all out i saw he left a post
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I see yet another problem for JTF...
On the chillout note http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HTfcjXG9BbA
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Ended? He's banned me from enforcing the forum rules properly in my section, he's said that someone who called me drek and someone else who called me a cornhole are great righteous people, and though things have quieted down now, he has not taken back anything he said.
Well ftf, about the people who called you those things. Just because Yakov thinks that they are righteous doesn't mean that he was tacitly supporting those comments. Surely you wouldn't expect someone to stop thinking that someone else is righteous because of ONE insult they make to someone? Ftf, maybe since everyone wants to be able to insult Muslims, you should just let that slide except in cases where threats or violent tactics or extremely vile language is used. I don't think you will run into any problems in the future if you just let people make silly jokes about Islam. You're holding this in too long in my opinion ftf, I would advise you to just let it go. If you really need to work something out with Yakov, why don't you contact him? It's better to resolve whatever issue you have than to sit in persistent frustration about it.
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Just because Yakov thinks that they are righteous doesn't mean that he was tacitly supporting those comments.
So when Louis Farrakhan thinks Adolf Hitler is a "very great man" he isn't actually supporting Adolf Hitler's statements or policies, right? Love the double standards!
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Just because Yakov thinks that they are righteous doesn't mean that he was tacitly supporting those comments.
So when Louis Farrakhan thinks Adolf Hitler is a "very great man" he isn't actually supporting Adolf Hitler's statements or policies, right? Love the double standards!
This is an absurd comparison. Here's a better example. There are many people who I adore and who I think are righteous and good people. Does that mean that I agree with everything they've ever said? Of course not. I like Chaim and I think he is righteous and I haven't agreed with everything he's ever said. I would be willing to bet that you are the same. There will always be things that people who you like will say that you will disagree with, does that mean you should stop supporting them as people, of course not! I think DownwithIslam and newman are very righteous people but that doesn't mean that I support them calling ftf a drek and a cornhole.
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So you know what? When the board admin throws his support behind people who repeatedly name-call and make vicious attacks against people and their faiths, you read the writing on the wall, Ze'ev. Frankly, ftf's desire to deal with muslims in a mature and logical manner are likely too much to handle for certain people to handle.
Anyone who would insult ftf by calling him drek or a cornhole not a righteous individual. In fact, I'd say they're the scum of the earth on par with muslims.
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Are you serious, you actually condemn people who name call and make verbal attacks on Muslims? The fact that you call it a "faith" to begin with shows that you're not committed to defeating Islam. It is righteous to condemn, vilify, and insult Islam and Muslims to the fullest extent possible. THAT is the position of JTF and its members. Chaim does so, and he said we should not hold anything back when condemning our enemies. There is no way to deal with a Muslim logically, what are you supposed to say to him when he says that the Bible was corrupted by Jews and Christians and that the Quran is the word of G-d? Abdulluh wasn't answering any of the questions honestly, so the only thing left to do was attack and vilify him in an effort to make him feel ashamed to be a Muslim.
Are you really saying that DownwithIslam and newman are scum of the earth? You're calling fellow JTF members scum, while you're condemning the fact that they called ftf a drek and a cornhole, which by the way was not done in such a serious manner as you just did. Isn't that hypocritical? Have you ever heard of taking the high moral ground? If you don't think that they are righteous because of what they said about ftf and about Islam then what does that make you? According to you, you don't consider yourself to be a righteous individual because you used the scum of the earth insult.
So let me get this straight. You just condemned people who make joking verbal attacks on Muslims, but yet you viciously insult fellow JTF members by calling them scum of the earth.
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So you know what? When the board admin throws his support behind people who repeatedly name-call and make vicious attacks against people and their faiths, you read the writing on the wall, Ze'ev. Frankly, ftf's desire to deal with muslims in a mature and logical manner are likely too much to handle for certain people to handle.
Anyone who would insult ftf by calling him drek or a cornhole not a righteous individual. In fact, I'd say they're the scum of the earth on par with muslims.
Just so people can see what you said about fellow JTF members, I'm going to post this in case you decide to change it.
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this should be a chill out topic... shouldn't it?
i would suggest asking ftf but nobody would do that sensibly :p
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Are you serious, you actually condemn people who name call and make verbal attacks on Muslims? The fact that you call it a "faith" to begin with shows that you're not committed to defeating Islam. It is righteous to condemn, vilify, and insult Islam and Muslims to the fullest extent possible. THAT is the position of JTF and its members. Chaim does so, and he said we should not hold anything back when condemning our enemies. There is no way to deal with a Muslim logically, what are you supposed to say to him when he says that the Bible was corrupted by Jews and Christians and that the Quran is the word of G-d? Abdulluh wasn't answering any of the questions honestly, so the only thing left to do was attack and vilify him in an effort to make him feel ashamed to be a Muslim.
This is where I severely disagree with you, when attempting to answer my questions, it wasn't that he lied, it was that he just couldn't answer adequately if this had gone on for a little while longer, it would have begun to mkae him doubt his faith. And the topic could have stood as a monument to the fact that muslims can't defend Islam.
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Stop It !
Music duel: Jewish klezmer vs Gipsy music - Train de vie
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1bQmT1EM0Eg
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I got into an argument with a 17 year old Muslim woman the yesterday and I asked her all of the "hard" questions, like what is dar al Islam and what is dar al harb. She got completely pwned by everything I said to her and I completely dominated her, she didn't even know how respond to what I was saying. She was so clueless about her "faith" that she didn't know many of the fundamental parts of Islam. Needless to say, she was not shaken at all in her faith. I got her MSN address so maybe I'll invite her to the forum to have it out with us.
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Stop It !
Music duel: Jewish klezmer vs Gipsy music - Train de vie
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1bQmT1EM0Eg
Thanks Dexter. I LOVE KLEZMER
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She got completely pwned
Fellow 'leet speaker, eh?
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I got into an argument with a 17 year old Muslim woman the yesterday and I asked her all of the "hard" questions, like what is dar al Islam and what is dar al harb. She got completely pwned by everything I said to her and I completely dominated her, she didn't even know how respond to what I was saying. She was so clueless about her "faith" that she didn't know many of the fundamental parts of Islam. Needless to say, she was not shaken at all in her faith. I got her MSN address so maybe I'll invite her to the forum to have it out with us.
The trick is to use quranic quotes rather than just talking about Islamic concepts.
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Yeah, there is a definite skill to debating muslims... shame nothing in their "faith" makes sense!
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I got into an argument with a 17 year old Muslim woman the yesterday and I asked her all of the "hard" questions, like what is dar al Islam and what is dar al harb. She got completely pwned by everything I said to her and I completely dominated her, she didn't even know how respond to what I was saying. She was so clueless about her "faith" that she didn't know many of the fundamental parts of Islam. Needless to say, she was not shaken at all in her faith. I got her MSN address so maybe I'll invite her to the forum to have it out with us.
The trick is to use quranic quotes rather than just talking about Islamic concepts.
Oh yeah, of course I do that. Usually I don't get any response to them though. They just say no no no, allah is a G-d of peeeace.
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Ask them for a quote from the Quran about peace. Or ask them to explain a few violent verses.
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How about music to end one's life to?
http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/80695/like_spinning_plates/Radiohead%20-%20Like%20Spinning%20Plates%20%28live%29
I can feel myself spinning down into madness when I listen to this.
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Za'ev, the comments were directed at the anti-Christian comments made by these evil degenerate posters. You knew that likely but still tried to misconstrue my comments. And please, I'm not so gutless that I'd edit my post after the fact. My comments pale in comparison to some of the garbage that they've said in the past.
And no, I still think they're the scum of the earth. Why? They're the reason JTF will always be small-time. They're unintelligent people who are either too lazy or too stupid to tackle issues in a logical manner. The strength of conservative movements should always be in their substance and reasoning. Our beliefs are solid while those of our enemies(Islam/Liberalism) are not. Unfortunately these ogres spewing their garbage will turn otherwise reasonable people off JTF. I don't condemn them for attacking muslims but I condemn them for not being smart enough to do otherwise. And there is a way to deal logically with muslims. You defend yourself against them and stop the spread of their faith. That means promoting principled conservatism, stopping their immigration and cutting off welfare to their disgusting countries. That doesn't include randomly running around assaulting muslims. That doesn't include advocating mass killings.
Several posters are unabashed and unapologetic Christian-haters. I'm calling a spade a spade. I have no doubt if there was no Islam they'd be saying these terrible things about us too.
Lastly, nobody seems to want to get ftf's back on this. I got your back ftf. One ftf is worth a million newmans or muckdefuslims.
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Za'ev, the comments were directed at the anti-Christian comments made by these evil degenerate posters. You knew that likely but still tried to misconstrue my comments. And please, I'm not so gutless that I'd edit my post after the fact. My comments pale in comparison to some of the garbage that they've said in the past.
And no, I still think they're the scum of the earth. Why? They're the reason JTF will always be small-time. They're unintelligent people who are either too lazy or too stupid to tackle issues in a logical manner. The strength of conservative movements should always be in their substance and reasoning. Our beliefs are solid while those of our enemies(Islam/Liberalism) are not. Unfortunately these ogres spewing their garbage will turn otherwise reasonable people off JTF. I don't condemn them for attacking muslims but I condemn them for not being smart enough to do otherwise. And there is a way to deal logically with muslims. You defend yourself against them and stop the spread of their faith. That means promoting principled conservatism, stopping their immigration and cutting off welfare to their disgusting countries. That doesn't include randomly running around assaulting muslims. That doesn't include advocating mass killings.
Several posters are unabashed and unapologetic Christian-haters. I'm calling a spade a spade. I have no doubt if there was no Islam they'd be saying these terrible things about us too.
Lastly, nobody seems to want to get ftf's back on this. I got your back ftf. One ftf is worth a million newmans or muckdefuslims.
I'm sure ftf will be delighted that you have his "back", thunderbolt. I'm sure you're admiring the view.
Your head must be throbbing from banging it against the wall these last couple of weeks. It is obvious that vast multitudes seem to be listening to you. As you think "JTF will always be small-time", why don't you and your large corps of supporters go and form the 'Pusillanimous Pipsqueak , Jolly-Well Not Happy Task Force' and show us how it's done?
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Za'ev, the comments were directed at the anti-Christian comments made by these evil degenerate posters. You knew that likely but still tried to misconstrue my comments. And please, I'm not so gutless that I'd edit my post after the fact. My comments pale in comparison to some of the garbage that they've said in the past.
And no, I still think they're the scum of the earth. Why? They're the reason JTF will always be small-time. They're unintelligent people who are either too lazy or too stupid to tackle issues in a logical manner. The strength of conservative movements should always be in their substance and reasoning. Our beliefs are solid while those of our enemies(Islam/Liberalism) are not. Unfortunately these ogres spewing their garbage will turn otherwise reasonable people off JTF. I don't condemn them for attacking muslims but I condemn them for not being smart enough to do otherwise. And there is a way to deal logically with muslims. You defend yourself against them and stop the spread of their faith. That means promoting principled conservatism, stopping their immigration and cutting off welfare to their disgusting countries. That doesn't include randomly running around assaulting muslims. That doesn't include advocating mass killings.
Several posters are unabashed and unapologetic Christian-haters. I'm calling a spade a spade. I have no doubt if there was no Islam they'd be saying these terrible things about us too.
Lastly, nobody seems to want to get ftf's back on this. I got your back ftf. One ftf is worth a million newmans or muckdefuslims.
Thunderbolt - if you don't call people names when you attack them - but attack them you do - is that ok?
For instance you said -
I don't condemn them for attacking muslims but I condemn them for not being smart enough to do otherwise.
Calling people unintelligent seems like an attack.
Maybe you all just have different types of debate styles. ;)
No one can help you chill out like Louis Prima!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_7DmnAp_E
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Za'ev, the comments were directed at the anti-Christian comments made by these evil degenerate posters. You knew that likely but still tried to misconstrue my comments. And please, I'm not so gutless that I'd edit my post after the fact. My comments pale in comparison to some of the garbage that they've said in the past.
And no, I still think they're the scum of the earth. Why? They're the reason JTF will always be small-time. They're unintelligent people who are either too lazy or too stupid to tackle issues in a logical manner. The strength of conservative movements should always be in their substance and reasoning. Our beliefs are solid while those of our enemies(Islam/Liberalism) are not. Unfortunately these ogres spewing their garbage will turn otherwise reasonable people off JTF. I don't condemn them for attacking muslims but I condemn them for not being smart enough to do otherwise. And there is a way to deal logically with muslims. You defend yourself against them and stop the spread of their faith. That means promoting principled conservatism, stopping their immigration and cutting off welfare to their disgusting countries. That doesn't include randomly running around assaulting muslims. That doesn't include advocating mass killings.
Several posters are unabashed and unapologetic Christian-haters. I'm calling a spade a spade. I have no doubt if there was no Islam they'd be saying these terrible things about us too.
Lastly, nobody seems to want to get ftf's back on this. I got your back ftf. One ftf is worth a million newmans or muckdefuslims.
Thunderbolt - if you don't call people names when you attack them - but attack them you do - is that ok?
For instance you said -
I don't condemn them for attacking muslims but I condemn them for not being smart enough to do otherwise.
Calling people unintelligent seems like an attack.
Maybe you all just have different types of debate styles. ;)
No one can help you chill out like Louis Prima!
I don't know Bullcat there is something unsettling about the monkeys and gorillas in that youtube video :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_7DmnAp_E
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Yes - I know ;) but what can it be? ;D
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Za'ev, the comments were directed at the anti-Christian comments made by these evil degenerate posters. You knew that likely but still tried to misconstrue my comments. And please, I'm not so gutless that I'd edit my post after the fact. My comments pale in comparison to some of the garbage that they've said in the past.
And no, I still think they're the scum of the earth. Why? They're the reason JTF will always be small-time. They're unintelligent people who are either too lazy or too stupid to tackle issues in a logical manner. The strength of conservative movements should always be in their substance and reasoning. Our beliefs are solid while those of our enemies(Islam/Liberalism) are not. Unfortunately these ogres spewing their garbage will turn otherwise reasonable people off JTF. I don't condemn them for attacking muslims but I condemn them for not being smart enough to do otherwise. And there is a way to deal logically with muslims. You defend yourself against them and stop the spread of their faith. That means promoting principled conservatism, stopping their immigration and cutting off welfare to their disgusting countries. That doesn't include randomly running around assaulting muslims. That doesn't include advocating mass killings.
Several posters are unabashed and unapologetic Christian-haters. I'm calling a spade a spade. I have no doubt if there was no Islam they'd be saying these terrible things about us too.
Lastly, nobody seems to want to get ftf's back on this. I got your back ftf. One ftf is worth a million newmans or muckdefuslims.
No matter whether someone agrees with this, it is a logical, well thought out post.
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I think the content of Thunderbolt's post can be perceived as insulting/attacking some members and JTF on a whole.
I may at times disagree with FTF but I don't ever think he isn't extremely bright and that he respects JTF.
Why join in a forum for which you have so little regard?
To me it seems Thunderbolt spends way too much time attacking the forum - rather then debating issues/ideas. ;)
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Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim, you know, the really annoying administrator guy who is completely two faced and has double standards.
Yacov is a great administrator, everybody has someone they don't get along with.
I got into an argument with a 17 year old Muslim woman the yesterday and I asked her all of the "hard" questions, like what is dar al Islam and what is dar al harb. She got completely pwned by everything I said to her and I completely dominated her, she didn't even know how respond to what I was saying. She was so clueless about her "faith" that she didn't know many of the fundamental parts of Islam. Needless to say, she was not shaken at all in her faith. I got her MSN address so maybe I'll invite her to the forum to have it out with us.
Ze'ev Jabotinsky, honestly speaking, i myself never knew much about this concept and i even asked some very religious muslims who only knew an impartial amount. Its not called dar al Islam as if its a method of some sort, there is a belief that muslims will rise and run the world in the future but heck dar al Islam is just a name given to it that some people use. When translated, to some it just means house of islam.....and can be used to a lot of current states such as saudi etc, world dar al islam is an aim of some and to others a predestined belief.
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I think the content of Thunderbolt's post can be perceived as insulting/attacking some members and JTF on a whole.
I may at times disagree with FTF but I don't ever think he isn't extremely bright and that he respects JTF.
Why join in a forum for which you have so little regard?
To me it seems Thunderbolt spends way too much time attacking the forum - rather then debating issues/ideas. ;)
I used to hold this forum in high regard before it went berserk attracting small-time e-thugs.
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I think the content of Thunderbolt's post can be perceived as insulting/attacking some members and JTF on a whole.
I may at times disagree with FTF but I don't ever think he isn't extremely bright and that he respects JTF.
Why join in a forum for which you have so little regard?
To me it seems Thunderbolt spends way too much time attacking the forum - rather then debating issues/ideas. ;)
I used to hold this forum in high regard before it went berserk attracting small-time e-thugs.
BUT DO NOT LEAVE. I thoght I would leave but I didn't and I don't regret it :)
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Let's all chill, huh ?
I'm trying to 'chill' and let things rest, as requested by the moderators and administrators of this forum in several other threads.
But it's hard to 'chill' when you're being falsely accused of bashing Christianity, being called an evil degenerate, unintelligent, an e-thug and assorted other things.
A careful reading of this thread will reveal that the 'chilling' process was ended by the very moderator that started the thread. That would be funny, if it wasn't so sad.
Then, of course, things really blew up when another flamer decided to join in.
All this with barely a word of caution, rebuke or repudiation from any of the other moderators.
Very strange.
I'm still trying to 'chill' in the name of unity, but there are limits to the patience any reasonable person can be expected to exhibit under these circumstances.
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Let's all chill, huh ?
I'm trying to 'chill' and let things rest, as requested by the moderators and administrators of this forum in several other threads.
But it's hard to 'chill' when you're being falsely accused of bashing Christianity, being called an evil degenerate, unintelligent, an e-thug and assorted other things.
A careful reading of this thread will reveal that the 'chilling' process was ended by the very moderator that started the thread. That would be funny, if it wasn't so sad.
Then, of course, things really blew up when another flamer decided to join in.
All this with barely a word of caution, rebuke or repudiation from any of the other moderators.
Very strange.
I'm still trying to 'chill' in the name of unity, but there are limits to the patience any reasonable person can be expected to exhibit under these circumstances.
It is easy to chill.
Just don't give a damn if people are being stupid.
Come on, I mean if you don't believe what someone says to be true, then don't take it to heart. Don't take offense because the only one thats in the wrong would be the person thats insulted you, if you have let the issue be.
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I just can't manage to feel positive at the moment, here's another emo song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcuWVWkV4Vo
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I just can't manage to feel positive at the moment, here's another emo song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcuWVWkV4Vo
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :laugh: :laugh:
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Sarah, what's so funny?
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Sarah, what's so funny?
I don't know! The excruciatingly painful sound of Aiden is tickling the insides of my ears!
Also, i don't like hearing you depressed ftf, try and put it behind you.
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If aiden is too painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepiJtyPENY or how about (warning multiple use of the f word): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QBOJZolP6o
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If aiden is too painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepiJtyPENY or how about (warning multiple use of the f word): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QBOJZolP6o
I'd much rather stare at this photo, its truly relaxing:
(http://www.bajawinters.com/SUNSETCanyon_and_Beaches_005__446__op_800x533.jpg)
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You know what, Sarah, you may be right.
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You know what, Sarah, you may be right.
Until another of lifes turbulences throws such intrests aside, maybe but not for long.
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Having given it some thought, I have concluded that underoath is far more relaxing. How can anything be better than christian screamo music?
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RST4R1CEgLQ I suggest this.
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RST4R1CEgLQ I suggest this.
That's really weird, kinda catchy and very relaxing, but I still prefer underoath, listening to underoath makes me feel really really high.
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The whole of the Royksopp album "Melody AM" is exceptionally soothing and relaxing. I reccomend it, particuarly the tracks:
So Easy
Eple
Sparks
Poor Leno
Other ambient, relaxing music here: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PDxMQaMqsig
Incidentally the video has won many major awards in the music industry.
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Here's some more of the amazing Underoath that makes me feel so happy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu7aF_df6WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFi2LE8P68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRSCSPg8310
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkEfnPndEnI
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Here's some more of the amazing Underoath that makes me feel so happy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu7aF_df6WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFi2LE8P68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRSCSPg8310
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkEfnPndEnI
Its really scary when you say that ftf. The screaming makes you happy?! :D
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Judging by the music he listens to, I have a feeling that ftf lives a very stessful life and needs screaming to relieve the tension. I have many friends that are like that. It seems to calm them considerably.
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Here's some more of the amazing Underoath that makes me feel so happy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu7aF_df6WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFi2LE8P68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRSCSPg8310
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkEfnPndEnI
Its really scary when you say that ftf. The screaming makes you happy?! :D
It's really relaxing and chearful, completely the opposite of emo stuff like aiden.
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Here's some more of the amazing Underoath that makes me feel so happy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu7aF_df6WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFi2LE8P68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRSCSPg8310
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkEfnPndEnI
Its really scary when you say that ftf. The screaming makes you happy?! :D
It's really relaxing and chearful, completely the opposite of emo stuff like aiden.
:o :o Speak for yourself.
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This one really mkaes me think about loads of stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFi2LE8P68
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I like Underoath too. But personally I'm prefer Skillet and Switchfoot. Try listening to some of these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3U6btnwJJs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK_E7xS7AtQ