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Title: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: drlmg on February 24, 2013, 01:14:35 AM
Specifically Jimmy Carter....... I honestly wish he would "go away".

Also add oBumma..... and a whole slew of others.

The world is being destroyed by evil.... things could be great.

Is it wrong to pray for justice, and hope that justice is devastating?

It is so hard to pray that they will simply wake up, see their evil ways and repent.... although that would be nice.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: muman613 on February 24, 2013, 01:33:04 AM
Specifically Jimmy Carter....... I honestly wish he would "go away".

Also add oBumma..... and a whole slew of others.

The world is being destroyed by evil.... things could be great.

Is it wrong to pray for justice, and hope that justice is devastating?

It is so hard to pray that they will simply wake up, see their evil ways and repent.... although that would be nice.

Praying for the wicked to be destroyed is a holy thing to do.

But the question we must ask before going down that road is to make sure we know what is evil and what is not. I will agree that Jimmy Carter is a wicked vile example of a human being, he is a sick man who has done a lot of damage to the world. But do I spend my prayers cursing him specifically? Not really. He is a part of my generic prayer for all enemies of the Jews to be utterly destroyed and humiliated before the judge of judges.

If we curse someone who ends up making repentence then maybe we will bear some sin. In the case of Jew vs Jew we are commanded to first rebuke them privately first in order to prevent their embarassment, and if this doesn't work, and their transgression endangers others we must make it public, and attempt to stop them from repeating their transgressions. Once their sin rises to the level of patently evil, we should curse them with the fate that all enemies of Israel have, which will be destruction when final judgement is rendered.

This is my thoughts on this question. Others may disagree.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on February 24, 2013, 01:51:27 AM
You are supposed to do so.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: Zelhar on February 24, 2013, 03:57:44 AM
I think it would be wrong to pray for such thing against some personal enemy over relatively petty things. But regarding the two aforementioned names IMHO it is justified to pray and wish they were removed from this world.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2013, 06:34:08 AM
Pray for a modern day Purim and you'll have all Jew haters covered
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: Rubystars on February 24, 2013, 07:16:13 AM
If you want to pray for a specific person's demise right now try Hillary Clinton so she can't be president.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: Meerkat on February 24, 2013, 07:26:13 AM
If you want to pray for a specific person's demise right now try Hillary Clinton so she can't be president.
does it really make a difference? If it's not Hillary it's gonna be Christie, not much better.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: Super Mentalita on February 24, 2013, 08:05:00 AM
If you want to pray for a specific person's demise right now try Hillary Clinton so she can't be president.

I will think about it! Hillary Clinton would be a disaster for America, for sure!
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: Rubystars on February 24, 2013, 08:56:31 AM
does it really make a difference? If it's not Hillary it's gonna be Christie, not much better.

It's way too early to say if he's the Republican nominee although he certainly seems to be positioning himself for a strong run.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on February 24, 2013, 11:11:48 AM
  To the question- NOPE, not at all. I don't understand why Jim Carey, but ookay. We pray for the destruction of evil people every day. It also depends on a personal enemy or an enemy of Am Yisrael and an enemy against G-D. For personal we can pray that evil ceases and not necessarily evil-doers. For more public Reshaim we pray for their demise because its good for the world and it is good for them as well.
Title: Re: Is it wrong to pray for someone's demise?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 24, 2013, 12:08:06 PM
No.