JTF.ORG Forum

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Yisrael on July 18, 2007, 08:29:08 PM

Title: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Yisrael on July 18, 2007, 08:29:08 PM
Radio Cut of A Host That Refuses To Bow To The Muslim Cult.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3af_1184708307
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on July 18, 2007, 09:22:01 PM
Excellent tape.

The host was really on a roll until he got slightly sidetracked with 'I understand the radicals don't represent the majority of Muslims' and 'hijacked religion' claptrap.

Pretty good stuff.

Wonder if he still has a job.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 18, 2007, 09:23:25 PM
He'll probably get shot next week.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: JTFSupporter on July 18, 2007, 09:53:44 PM
Wow, who and where is this radio host?
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Yisrael on July 18, 2007, 10:00:13 PM
Wow, who and where is this radio host?

I wish I knew.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: cosmokramer on July 18, 2007, 10:01:01 PM
Remember the movie TALK RADIO? The host gets shot in the end by a neo-nazi. Now it will be a Moslem. Maybe this host listens to JTF.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: JTFSupporter on July 18, 2007, 10:03:59 PM
Remember the movie TALK RADIO? The host gets shot in the end by a neo-nazi. Now it will be a Moslem.

G-d forbid, in this case.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 18, 2007, 10:05:13 PM
Remember the movie TALK RADIO? The host gets shot in the end by a neo-nazi. Now it will be a Moslem.

Our problem is there are not enough JTFers, JDLers, Yad Lachimers or noachides on the planet to deal similarly with the vast hoard of Jew-hating media identities.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on July 18, 2007, 10:06:08 PM
Good flick.

I think Eric Begrosian or however you spell his name is Jewish.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on July 18, 2007, 10:08:46 PM
Wasn't there a radio talk show host that actually got shotand killed by a deranged listener a while back ?

Think it was in Colorado.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 18, 2007, 10:14:11 PM
Wasn't there a radio talk show host that actually got shotand killed by a deranged listener a while back ?

Think it was in Colorado.

I heard about the one who paid out on the kkk and got it point blank with a MAC-10. In Texas, I think.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: MasterWolf1 on July 18, 2007, 10:17:06 PM
The radio host is named Neil Boortz
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: cosmokramer on July 18, 2007, 10:55:44 PM
Good flick.

I think Eric Begrosian or however you spell his name is Jewish.
Oh, BTW MUCK, Alan Berg is the name of the host the was killed. IT was in Denver in 1984 by Neo-Nazis. Got whacked in his driveway. TALK RADIO was based off of that.  Got whacked in his driveway by neo nazis. TALK RADIO was based off of that. Alan Berg was a leftists Jew though.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 18, 2007, 11:08:23 PM
WOW! Talk about slapping a whiny muslim! I love this guy!

Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 18, 2007, 11:13:00 PM
WOW! Talk about slapping a whiny muslim! I love this guy!



Why I'm surprised at you!!

Shouldn't he have blessed the nice muslim, turned the other cheek and kissed his tushie?
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on July 18, 2007, 11:26:56 PM
WOW! Talk about slapping a whiny muslim! I love this guy!



Why I'm surprised at you!!

Shouldn't he have blessed the nice muslim, turned the other cheek and kissed his tushie?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHALLLLLAHHHH MOOONDOG !!!!
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on July 19, 2007, 12:16:31 AM
Yes, that's right, Alan Berg was the name I couldn't remember.

Thanks Cosmo, it was driving me nuts.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 12:31:25 AM
Wow thats real mature, newman. I haven't been mocked like that since I was in junior high. I suppose you would have slit the muzzies throat and screamed "HaShem is Great!"

A friendly reminder from the guy holding up the mirror.

Cyrizian
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 12:37:06 AM
Wow thats real mature, newman. I haven't been mocked like that since I was in junior high. I suppose you would have slit the muzzies throat and screamed "HaShem is Great!"

A friendly reminder from the guy holding up the mirror.

Cyrizian

Why don't you ever answer my other questions?

I ask in all earnest:

If you are required to Love and bless everyone as you claimed on another thread, do you love; hitler, ted bundy , the 9-11 hijackers and yasser arafat?

I really want to know.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 12:42:22 AM
Wow thats real mature, newman. I haven't been mocked like that since I was in junior high. I suppose you would have slit the muzzies throat and screamed "HaShem is Great!"

A friendly reminder from the guy holding up the mirror.

Cyrizian

Why don't you ever answer my other questions?

I ask in all earnest:

If you are required to Love and bless everyone as you claimed on another thread, do you love; hitler, ted bundy , the 9-11 hijackers and yasser arafat?

I really want to know.

Well since you ask so nicely...

Have you ever heard the saying "Love the sinner, hate the sin?" I hate what they did but I don't hate them. And if I had to, I would kill them to prevent them from doing what they did. But I would do it without any malice in my heart. Why? Because that is the path of Yeshua.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 12:47:20 AM
Wow thats real mature, newman. I haven't been mocked like that since I was in junior high. I suppose you would have slit the muzzies throat and screamed "HaShem is Great!"

A friendly reminder from the guy holding up the mirror.

Cyrizian

Why don't you ever answer my other questions?

I ask in all earnest:

If you are required to Love and bless everyone as you claimed on another thread, do you love; hitler, ted bundy , the 9-11 hijackers and yasser arafat?

I really want to know.

Well since you ask so nicely...

Have you ever heard the saying "Love the sinner, hate the sin?" I hate what they did but I don't hate them. And if I had to, I would kill them to prevent them from doing what they did. But I would do it without any malice in my heart. Why? Because that is the path of Yeshua.

Don't cop out with qualifications. Do you love hitler? It's either a straight 'yes' or 'no'.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 12:54:19 AM
I've never met the guy.

But lets say that I met him. I suppose I would be rather indifferent towards him... I would respectfully disagree with him... but if he tried to kill a jew (or any one else) in front of me, I would would stop him by any means necessary. But I honestly can't say for sure since I didn't live back then.

Cyrizian
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 01:03:04 AM
I WAS going to get in to the whole princile of someone having to have some lovable quallity in order to be loved and the other principle of a man being what he is by what he does etc.........................................

I can't be bothered quite frankly. The fact that you would be "quite indifferent to hitler" (yemach shmo v'zichro) tells me all I need to know about you.

You are morally vaccuous.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 01:10:01 AM
BTW:
QUOTE:"Why? Because that is the path of Yeshua."


No problems. Do it if YOUR scripture tells you.

However, the 'J' in JTF stands for 'Jewish'. Jews don't follow that man. So kindly stop advising Jews and Noachides to adhere to principles that WE don't subscribe to and don't appear in OUR scripture.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 01:16:51 AM
Quote
The fact that you would be "quite indifferent to hitler" (yemach shmo v'zichro) tells me all I need to know about you

At least I'm not so quick to judge. I understand your hatred for a man that killed so many of your people. But I am not so hotheaded that I think that I know everthing there is to know about a man I did not know personally. Hitler could have been a different man under different circumstances.

I hate what Ayatolla Khomenie did with all my heart. But I don't hate him personally. If given the chance I would kill him to stop him from killing so many innocent people. The same is true of hitler. I don't hate him personally. I just hate what he did. Why? Because that is what being righteous is.

With Hope,
Cyrizian
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 01:27:01 AM
BTW:
QUOTE:"Why? Because that is the path of Yeshua."


No problems. Do it if YOUR scripture tells you.

However, the 'J' in JTF stands for 'Jewish'. Jews don't follow that man. So kindly stop advising Jews and Noachides to adhere to principles that WE don't subscribe to and don't appear in OUR scripture.

I understand that and I am not expecting you to do that. But in the end it is God alone who has the right to judge. From both of our scripture:

To me (God) belongeth vengeance and recompence. -Deuteronomy 32:35

Thats all I'm saying. Let God be the judge of who they are. I only hate the evil act.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Yisrael on July 19, 2007, 01:35:53 AM
The lofty praises of God are in their throats, and a double-edged sword is in their hand – to execute vengeance among the nations, rebukes among the governments. (Psalms 149:7-8)

So vengeance isn't only for God.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 01:48:16 AM
Cyrizian,

Gentiles (and I'm one) are on a slippery slope when we read Torah passages without the benefit of an orthodox Hebrew perspective.

I've heard Orthodox Rabbis have say repeatedly..." Jews are required to hate their enemies"...not hate the enemies actions whilst loving them, but to 'hate the enemy'.......period. No qualifications about acts versus person.

Another Torah passage:

" He who is kind to the wicked will soon be wicked to the kind"

If you doubt the profundity of that, Just look at the ACLU lawyers. They are so kind and loving to their rapist clients that they emotionally rip the rapist's victims to shreds in court.

Now....we will never agree on theology. But that's OK, it doesn't matter for the purpose of co-existance and working in common unterest. Whilst
I have no problem with you being as civil and nice and christian as you want to be. I won't, however have you lecture non-christians about righteousness or biblical principles.

Fair enough?
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 01:53:28 AM
"So vengeance isn't only for G-d."

Thankyou, Yisrael.

One of the 7 laws of Noach is that we establish courts of Justice for the purpose of 'judging people' and extracting vengeance for their crimes.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Ehud on July 19, 2007, 01:58:15 AM
Wow this guy seems great.  You can listen to his show streaming on the internet at http://boortz.com/
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Yisrael on July 19, 2007, 02:01:56 AM
A real mentch.

Great guy!
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 02:08:19 AM
Cyrizian,

Gentiles (and I'm one) are on a slippery slope when we read Torah passages without the benefit of an orthodox Hebrew perspective.

I've heard Orthodox Rabbis have say repeatedly..." Jews are required to hate their enemies"...not hate the enemies actions whilst loving them, but to 'hate the enemy'.......period. No qualifications about acts versus person.

Another Torah passage:

" He who is kind to the wicked will soon be wicked to the kind"

If you doubt the profundity of that, Just look at the ACLU lawyers. They are so kind and loving to their rapist clients that they emotionally rip the rapist's victims to shreds in court.

Now....we will never agree on theology. But that's OK, it doesn't matter for the purpose of co-existance and working in common unterest. Whilst
I have no problem with you being as civil and nice and christian as you want to be. I won't, however have you lecture non-christians about righteousness or biblical principles.

Fair enough?

Well that is fair. But I will remind you that I was not lecturing you and that it was you who asked me about where I stand on hitler and other criminals. Some on here have said that "loving your enemy" is a self destructive law. But I must respectfully disagree. Afterall, if a certain christian had not done this I (as well as Whalid shoebat and others) would probably still be a muslim. It is also why I think christianity is the largest religion on earth. And while I don't ask that you adopt a policy of loving your enemy, I do respectfully ask that you accept the fact that it works.

With Hope,
Cyrizian
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Ehud on July 19, 2007, 02:10:57 AM
Loving your enemy works?  I'd like to hear you expand on that.  Be sure to include historical precedents where being kind to enemies works.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 02:12:59 AM
Did loving our enemy defeat the Spanish amada, hitler, WW2 Japs?

Get real.

BTW: You WERE lecturing people on other threads.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Ehud on July 19, 2007, 02:18:49 AM
"I do respectfully ask that you accept the fact that it works."

?? You're "respectfully" asking us to accept that it works?  Sort of how Muslims "respectfully" ask other people to accept Allah and Mohammad as his prophet?  You're basically proselytizing but in a sneaky way.  You're asking people to accept a fundamental Christian belief.  That's proselytizing.  We don't have anything against Christianity but please Cyrizian, keep it to yourself and don't ask anyone to accept anything that you believe.  I am respectfully asking you to stop.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 02:22:07 AM
Did loving our enemy defeat the Spanish amada, hitler, WW2 Japs?

Get real.

BTW: You WERE lecturing people on other threads.

Newman, I am starting to believe that your heart is as cold as ice. If you were in charge of the U.S.A. during World War II we would have continued nuking Japan until there were no Japanese left on earth. But thank god we didn't have you in charge! Instead we offered a hand of mercy to our enemies and built them up to awesome force they are today in the technological world. I hope you never hold any sort of power...
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 02:27:47 AM
"I do respectfully ask that you accept the fact that it works."

?? You're "respectfully" asking us to accept that it works?  Sort of how Muslims "respectfully" ask other people to accept Allah and Mohammad as his prophet?  You're basically proselytizing but in a sneaky way.  You're asking people to accept a fundamental Christian belief.  That's proselytizing.  We don't have anything against Christianity but please Cyrizian, keep it to yourself and don't ask anyone to accept anything that you believe.  I am respectfully asking you to stop.

I am just giving testimony that I would have been a different person under different circumstances. I am not prselytizing but if you want to believe that I am, than that is your call. You can believe whatever you wish. But know this: I will never try to force you to believe what I believe. I only ask you to look at the facts and judge for yourself.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Ehud on July 19, 2007, 02:29:14 AM
If people like you Cyrizian were in power, the Western World would cease to exist because savage people don't respond well to olive branch offerings.  They see that as a sign of weakness.  If you were in power the Western World would crumble, oh wait, people like you are already in power in much of it and that is already starting to happen!
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 02:33:27 AM
Did loving our enemy defeat the Spanish amada, hitler, WW2 Japs?

Get real.

BTW: You WERE lecturing people on other threads.

Newman, I am starting to believe that your heart is as cold as ice. If you were in charge of the U.S.A. during World War II we would have continued nuking Japan until there were no Japanese left on earth. But thank G-d we didn't have you in charge! Instead we offered a hand of mercy to our enemies and built them up to awesome force they are today in the technological world. I hope you never hold any sort of power...

Yes. That's the point.

We offered a hand of mercy AFTER our enemy was COMPLETELY SMASHED and BEGGING for his life. I'll go along with that.

And FYI:

I'm not without mecy or pity. It's just that whatever mercy or pity or love I have is reserved exclusively for the chosen people. I have NOT ONE OUNCE for the enemies of B'nai Yisroel.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 02:34:01 AM
If people like you Cyrizian were in power, the Western World would cease to exist because savage people don't respond well to olive branch offerings.  They see that as a sign of weakness.  If you were in power the Western World would crumble, oh wait, people like you are already in power in much of it and that is already starting to happen!

You certainly are a very paranoid person Ze'ev. I know very well how they perceive us. But there is a huge difference between us: I still have hope that Arabs can one day be a better people. Yes, we will have to kill several of the more fanatical ones, just like we did with the Japanese. But like the Japanese, they can be reformed. I, Whalid Shoebat, Wafa Sultan and others are living proof of that.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Ehud on July 19, 2007, 02:41:36 AM
If people like you Cyrizian were in power, the Western World would cease to exist because savage people don't respond well to olive branch offerings.  They see that as a sign of weakness.  If you were in power the Western World would crumble, oh wait, people like you are already in power in much of it and that is already starting to happen!

You certainly are a very paranoid person Ze'ev. I know very well how they perceive us. But there is a huge difference between us: I still have hope that Arabs can one day be a better people. Yes, we will have to kill several of the more fanatical ones, just like we did with the Japanese. But like the Japanese, they can be reformed. I, Whalid Shoebat, Wafa Sultan and others are living proof of that.

Of course SOME of them can be reformed.  You just listed some of the most extreme examples.  That is definitely the exception to the rule.  There are hundreds, possibly thousands of new converts to Islam every single day.  It's one of the fastest religions in the world.  The fundamentalist Islamics have been behaving the same way since the 7th century.  It's 1400 years later and you STILL think they can be reformed?  The small amount of these apostate Muslims is grossly overshadowed by the amount of Muslim extremists that are recruited into Islam every day.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 02:44:43 AM
The fascists of germany, japan and elsewhere were reformed AFTER they were DEFEATED and SMASHED........not before.
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Ehud on July 19, 2007, 02:47:05 AM
If Hitler was treated nicely by his enemies, he would have taken over the world.  If Islam was treated nicely by its enemies, Islam would have taken over Europe. 
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: Cyrizian on July 19, 2007, 02:47:45 AM
And the Japanese believed that the emperor was God and the Japanese were willing to die in mass suicides for him for how many centuries? Look, I'm sure you believe differently, but I believe that no one is beyond redemption. Have a little faith! I promise you will find that it is better way to look at life.

With hope,
Cyrizian
Title: Re: Radio Host Tears Into "Offended" Muslim
Post by: newman on July 19, 2007, 02:51:24 AM
OY VEY ???