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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: HEAVYMETALMATT on July 19, 2007, 10:31:40 AM
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I saw one of jtf's vids about obama being a muslim and thought id check it out. I dont nesacerily hate jews, although i strongly dislike zionist of any sort. My question is, is this another AIPAC worshiping, leftist loving site or is this a legit site for to address and discuss true problems with the way things are today?I know that seems like a dumb question, but im serious. If I make a post that isnt...in sync, with the jewish train of thought, am I gonna be banned?
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I saw one of jtf's vids about obama being a muslim and thought id check it out. I dont nesacerily hate jews, although i strongly dislike zionist of any sort. My question is, is this another AIPAC worshiping, leftist loving site or is this a legit site for to address and discuss true problems with the way things are today?I know that seems like a dumb question, but im serious. If I make a post that isnt...in sync, with the jewish train of thought, am I gonna be banned?
If you hate zionists of any sort, then you hate Jews..
In fact, you will also hate us because we are real super zionists.
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You don't even need to make another post that isn't in sync with us to get banned. You're going to get banned because you said you strongly dislike Zionists.
That's like me going to StørmFrønt and saying "look guys are you going to be serious and discuss serious issues with me or are you going to ban me just because I strongly dislike all White Nationalists?"
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He's banned now. Where are all these nazi, anti-zionist antisemites coming from?
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Looks like in this case it was through YouTube. It's sort of a good sign though because it means that more people are being exposed to JTF's videos although unfortunately some of them are Neo-Nazis.
Thanks for banning him by the way.
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You see the nazis are jealous of schvartzas because all there sisters mothers and girlfriends love the blackman.Another thing all the nazis girls love the blackman and he has rejected many of these nazi girls
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At least he didn't come in here flaming everyone...
I keep seeing "White Nationalist". I know there's a nazi "StørmFrønt White Nationalist Community" and that is was a splinter political group in England who also went by the name of "Aryan Unity". But what on earth is this group??
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Better keep on your toes as we are getting more popular, this kinda thing will happen you going to get all sorts of characters.
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At least he didn't come in here flaming everyone...
I keep seeing "White Nationalist". I know there's a nazi "StørmFrønt White Nationalist Community" and that is was a splinter political group in England who also went by the name of "Aryan Unity". But what on earth is this group??
a bunch of nutty nazis who are jealous that attractive white women don'nt like them.Most are pedophiles
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You see the nazis are jealous of schvartzas because all there sisters mothers and girlfriends love the blackman.Another thing all the nazis girls love the blackman and he has rejected many of these nazi girls
OK FOTL, I mean mord. ;)
You're right though. Most of these guys are unattractive losers who are mad at the fact that they can't get any white women because the "black man is seducing her and trying to steal her from him."
Cohen, what about anti-Zionists, will you treat him as a brother and a family. I met one recently who insulted and disrespected me more than any White Nationalist or Muslim has in my entire life. The conversations I had with multiple White Nationalists were more pleasant than with this kike scum. It's easy to say that you'll treat all as a brother until you meet some of the scum who's out there.
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like Noam Chomsky... he's just evil.
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You see the nazis are jealous of schvartzas because all there sisters mothers and girlfriends love the blackman.Another thing all the nazis girls love the blackman and he has rejected many of these nazi girls
OK FOTL, I mean mord. ;)
You're right though. Most of these guys are unattractive losers who are mad at the fact that they can't get any white women because the "black man is seducing her and trying to steal her from him."
Cohen, what about anti-Zionists, will you treat him as a brother and a family. I met one recently who insulted and disrespected me more than any White Nationalist or Muslim has in my entire life. The conversations I had with multiple White Nationalists were more pleasant than with this kike scum. It's easy to say that you'll treat all as a brother until you meet some of the scum who's out there.
:laugh: :laugh: i wish i could write like him
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Why are these F'ing nazis on this forum, note to all nazis, we hate your guts, you will go to hell!
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Why are these F'ing nazis on this forum, note to all nazis, we hate your guts, you will go to hell!
I think they are closer to wannabe-nazis. A real nazi wouldn't want anything to do with a Jew zionist or not. Even StørmFrønt members have made it clear that at the very least we would be 2nd class citizens in America if they had their way, and at the most they would exterminate us or force us out of America. None of us should negotiate with neo nazis. It's one thing to be proud of being white, another to talk about killing the Jews and treating us like 2nd class citizens.
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This could be a new nazi-hippie sub-culture that want to hang around with the occasional Jew just to be different. :D
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Looks like in this case it was through YouTube. It's sort of a good sign though because it means that more people are being exposed to JTF's videos although unfortunately some of them are Neo-Nazis.
Thanks for banning him by the way.
you know, we can suggest to Chaim to a show against so called white nationalists and nazis and supremecists that we hate them just as much as muslim nazis and evil third world people.
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The enemies of our enemies are not our friends. I dislike "fake" Zionists because they aren't real Zionists at all, if they were truely Zionists, then they wouldn't be doing what they are. Although I dislike "fake" Zionists, I will always treat another Jew as a brother and family. Dislike and hate is a different thing. Hopefully these "fake" Zionists will see the truth one day and realize what they are doing, that includes AIPAC and the democrat/liberal Jews.
nice...i'm in agreement.
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Looks like in this case it was through YouTube. It's sort of a good sign though because it means that more people are being exposed to JTF's videos although unfortunately some of them are Neo-Nazis.
Thanks for banning him by the way.
you know, we can suggest to Chaim to a show against so called white nationalists and nazis and supremecists that we hate them just as much as muslim nazis and evil third world people.
HE COULD ALSO POINT OUT HOW DAVID DUKE WAS A KNOWN COKE ADDICT RIPPED THEM OFF ANOTHER WAS A GAY PEDOPHILE OH SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THE ONES THEY ADMIRE
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He's banned now. Where are all these nazi, anti-zionist antisemites coming from?
Maybe we shouldn't have banned him right away. I think that there was a chance that we could have converted him over to our side.
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He's banned now. Where are all these nazi, anti-zionist antisemites coming from?
Maybe we shouldn't have banned him right away. I think that there was a chance that we could have converted him over to our side.
Good point. If he was conned into thinking zionism was a world take-over plot or something just as stupid we might have been able to clear the air. Maybe we should have some sort of permanent "read this" page for visitors explaining what zionism and true Judaism is all about.
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He's banned now. Where are all these nazi, anti-zionist antisemites coming from?
Maybe we shouldn't have banned him right away. I think that there was a chance that we could have converted him over to our side.
I disagree...Nazi = bad = very bad = really really bad... You can't convert areligious people...but peopel who seek the truth through one Gd, there is a possiblity.
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He's banned now. Where are all these nazi, anti-zionist antisemites coming from?
Maybe we shouldn't have banned him right away. I think that there was a chance that we could have converted him over to our side.
I disagree...Nazi = bad = very bad = really really bad... You can't convert areligious people...but peopel who seek the truth through one Gd, there is a possiblity.
Nonetheless, there is a reason these people seek out "Jewish Task Force". I have a suspicion that some members of these 'supremacist' groups are not comfortable with Jew-hating but think they have nowhere else to go. If we had a (small) page explaining the proper definitions of zionism and our movement for guests and surfers, we may snag a few converts. It's worth a shot. If they continue with Jewish conspiracy madness after they join, we can allways ban them.
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He's banned now. Where are all these nazi, anti-zionist antisemites coming from?
Maybe we shouldn't have banned him right away. I think that there was a chance that we could have converted him over to our side.
I disagree...Nazi = bad = very bad = really really bad... You can't convert areligious people...but peopel who seek the truth through one Gd, there is a possiblity.
Nonetheless, there is a reason these people seek out "Jewish Task Force". I have a suspicion that some members of these 'supremacist' groups are not comfortable with Jew-hating but think they have nowhere else to go. If we had a (small) page explaining the proper definitions of zionism and our movement for guests and surfers, we may snag a few converts. It's worth a shot. If they continue with Jewish conspiracy madness after they join, we can allways ban them.
Wishful thinking...I think these supremecists see the message Chaim and our members make on the forum that come off to be anti black anti muslim anti immigrant and think, "oh cool, they're on our side"
But we aren't really anti-black... we are anti-black culture. We are anti-Muslim...but mostly, anti-Islam, anti-Koran. And we aren't anti-Immigrant. We are anti-evil third world immigrants.
We are a righteous organization that tries to shine the light everywhere. The nazi movements and racial supremecist movements are evil evil evil. They will kill a righteous black man and an evil black man...No no no no..we don't want these evil creatures here....we dont' need friends like them.. We need smart, religious, educated, righteous people on this forum of all races and creeds and religions...if we are goign to be legitimite, that's who we need to attract..not low lifes.
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Are the majority of White Nationalists and neo-nazis young?
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I agree danny, but there might be a small percentage of these supremacist forum members who are salvageable. We won't convert the hard core, but I still suspect there are some young hangers-on who are simply frustrated by the PC culture and didn't know there was an alternative like JTF. Look at the millions of christians who used to think the Jews were evil and cursed etc who are now christian zionist or noachide or even Jewish converts.
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I agree danny, but there might be a small percentage of these supremacist forum members who are salvageable. We won't convert the hard core, but I still suspect there are some young hangers-on who are simply frustrated by the PC culture and didn't know there was an alternative like JTF. Look at the millions of christians who used to think the Jews were evil and cursed etc who are now christian zionist or noachide or even Jewish converts.
for this reason, I would agree with you...but we need to screen them and correct their every remarks.. we need to emphasize that we don't hate people for their race, but for their actions. We like good blacks, we like good whites...we hate bad blacks and we hate bad whites. etc etc etc
This guy who started this thread, hated Zionists...therefore, he hates Jews and he hates Israel...no matter what he puts on top of it...it's good that he was banned.
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I think a lot of White Nationalists who adopt neo-nazi beliefs do so because they are young and possibly need a hating outlet.
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I agree danny, but there might be a small percentage of these supremacist forum members who are salvageable. We won't convert the hard core, but I still suspect there are some young hangers-on who are simply frustrated by the PC culture and didn't know there was an alternative like JTF. Look at the millions of christians who used to think the Jews were evil and cursed etc who are now christian zionist or noachide or even Jewish converts.
for this reason, I would agree with you...but we need to screen them and correct their every remarks.. we need to emphasize that we don't hate people for their race, but for their actions. We like good blacks, we like good whites...we hate bad blacks and we hate bad whites. etc etc etc
This guy who started this thread, hated Zionists...therefore, he hates Jews and he hates Israel...no matter what he puts on top of it...it's good that he was banned.
Agreed. But I've had some people say they hate zionism. When I asked them what they thought zionism was, they said it was about Jews taking over the planet!
Sometimes they have no idea what zionism really means. All I'm saying is that we should set them straight and if they won't see common sense, then we ban them.
You'd be surprised how many righteous gentiles have flirted with facism as teenagers and left after waking up. I just think we could catch 2 to 5 % of good ones like that.
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If you hate zionism you hate Jews. It's that simple.
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stormfronter white "nationalists" are as representive of whites as neturei karta are of Jews. They are pondscum inbreds and deserve nothing short of slow, torturous deaths. They are one of the reasons why decent whites these days are so politically correct as these decent whites fear being grouped alongside trailer-park, inbred, excrement white "nationalists".
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I agree danny, but there might be a small percentage of these supremacist forum members who are salvageable. We won't convert the hard core, but I still suspect there are some young hangers-on who are simply frustrated by the PC culture and didn't know there was an alternative like JTF. Look at the millions of christians who used to think the Jews were evil and cursed etc who are now christian zionist or noachide or even Jewish converts.
for this reason, I would agree with you...but we need to screen them and correct their every remarks.. we need to emphasize that we don't hate people for their race, but for their actions. We like good blacks, we like good whites...we hate bad blacks and we hate bad whites. etc etc etc
This guy who started this thread, hated Zionists...therefore, he hates Jews and he hates Israel...no matter what he puts on top of it...it's good that he was banned.
Agreed. But I've had some people say they hate zionism. When I asked them what they thought zionism was, they said it was about Jews taking over the planet!
Sometimes they have no idea what zionism really means. All I'm saying is that we should set them straight and if they won't see common sense, then we ban them.
You'd be surprised how many righteous gentiles have flirted with facism as teenagers and left after waking up. I just think we could catch 2 to 5 % of good ones like that.
if you know how these people think, then we hope that if it happens again, you'll use proper vigilance. Personally, i still didn't think that last guy was any good.