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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: muman613 on July 16, 2014, 04:26:39 PM
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Shalom,
I am sad to say that it looks like America is going the way of Europe in that it is sliding toward Jew hatred being accepted in the media. I switched from the Democrats back to the conservative republicans because I was under the belief that the Conservatives in America are more pro-Israel and Jew friendly.
But as I read the comment sections of sites such as TheBlaze and PJ Media I notice an increasing tide of Jew hated. We are blamed again as being the cause of all the wars in the world, that Jews are the killers of the Christian messiah, that Israel deserves what it is getting because 'we don't believe in their god'... Etc, Etc.. That the Jews actually deserved what we got from the Nazis...
Where are the righteous Jews and Gentiles to stand up for Israel in these forums?
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The comments on this story upset me..
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/16/belgium-shop-owner-refuses-to-sell-to-jews-out-of-protest/
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There have always been some anti semites in the Republican party.
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There have always been some anti semites in the Republican party.
There are anti-Semites everywhere.... Republican and conservative (to me at least) are not necessarily the same. I consider myself conservative, Republican just happens to be the party that is least detrimental.
I rarely if ever see anti-Semitic attitudes among what I consider "conservatives"... ultra-lunatic right-wing leaning inbreds have anti-Semitic tendencies but so do ultra left-wing liberals.
As I looked at the comments on the aforementioned article I did not see a single anti-Semitic remark.... out of the 20 or so I read.
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These are just commenters. Who cares?
What bothers men is the website www.africancrisis.co.za, which has been hijacked by neo-nazi filth.
About five years ago, they were actually pro-Isael and even promoted JTF. However, If you check what they write now, some of the worst nazi stuff imaginable.
Here is one of their freshest articles:
http://www.africancrisis.org/Article.php?ID=529496&M=1&
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There are also some so called conservatives, that are utterly antisemitic and even outright nazis, Pat Buchanan is the best example of the lot. And he gets allot of publicity and credibility among many conservative media outlets. They chose to ignore his Jew-hating. There is also that Grover Norquist tax reforms guy, he and his Arab muslim wife are associated with the Islamic Jihad, but that doesn't stop "conservative" media from giving him a stage and allot of positive cover.
There are anti-Semites everywhere.... Republican and conservative (to me at least) are not necessarily the same. I consider myself conservative, Republican just happens to be the party that is least detrimental.
I rarely if ever see anti-Semitic attitudes among what I consider "conservatives"... ultra-lunatic right-wing leaning inbreds have anti-Semitic tendencies but so do ultra left-wing liberals.
As I looked at the comments on the aforementioned article I did not see a single anti-Semitic remark.... out of the 20 or so I read.
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There are anti-Semites everywhere.... Republican and conservative (to me at least) are not necessarily the same. I consider myself conservative, Republican just happens to be the party that is least detrimental.
I rarely if ever see anti-Semitic attitudes among what I consider "conservatives"... ultra-lunatic right-wing leaning inbreds have anti-Semitic tendencies but so do ultra left-wing liberals.
As I looked at the comments on the aforementioned article I did not see a single anti-Semitic remark.... out of the 20 or so I read.
ArtMooney -Jul. 16, 2014 at 1:56pm
So what? I know a TON of Jews who don’t hire outside their faith. Why is it when they do it it’s a culture thing but when somebody else has had enough of the bigotry, exclusion and insult and push back suddenly they’ve committed some horrible crime? Personally I never understood the animosity towards Jews – until I started working with them and saw the horrible stuff they did to other people with a smirk and a shrug. For example; calling women shiksa ain’t cool. It’s an obscene insult. It’s the N word for women. I certainly appreciate their club, how it works and how they’ve positioned themselves – wish I had one like it I could join – but let’s not fool ourselves into thinking it’s a fair, altruistic, peaceful group of do-gooders. It’s quite the opposite only they pretend to be your friend and smile while they’re picking your pocket or shoving you under a bus. And again – this is merely based on observance. There are certainly exceptions to the rule, but stereotypes exist for a reason. If they don’t like that perception, they need to change themselves, not call other people bigot for paying attention.
TruthSux -Jul. 16, 2014 at 11:54am
Or maybe this is the end times and the people who occupy Israel are not worshipping the same God as Christians.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/star_of_david.htm
Krutch -Jul. 16, 2014 at 11:43am
Are we sure this story is true? Remember the swastikas painted on a synagogue (in France, I think) was done by some Jews to stir up sentiments.
And the Opra made false claims of being refused service over in Europe.
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I've given up all hope that we Jews will ever be safe in any country. That's because hating Jews is a virus on humanity that will never die. This is why a strong and safe Israel is our only hope. It's so sad that we can't even be safe in Israel at this point. If not Israel, then where?
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It's because of people like the Paul's! Preaching about the NWO and the evil Jewish bankers crap!
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It's because of people like the Paul's! Preaching about the NWO and the evil Jewish bankers crap!
Yes, somehow the 1% has become the Jews...
Truth is we are actually .01% of the world population.
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Yes, somehow the 1% has become the Jews...
Truth is we are actually .01% of the world population.
I'll hang with ya Muman! A Rabbi said this today and I really like it... " We either stand together or we will hang separately. (paraphrased from Benjamin Franklin)"
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Glenn Beck has gone NUTS.
He is feeding little diseased illegals and giving them teddy bears in Cali/TX.
He is pro "GLAAD" (Militant LGBT) just b/c Putin is anti homosexual PROPAGANDA.
Next think ya know, he'll be sending big bux to the Arabs occupying Israel.
He's a CHUMP
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But he also says they must be sent back, on that issue he is adamant.
Glenn Beck has gone NUTS.
He is feeding little diseased illegals and giving them teddy bears in Cali/TX.
He is pro "GLAAD" (Militant LGBT) just b/c Putin is anti homosexual PROPAGANDA.
Next think ya know, he'll be sending big bux to the Arabs occupying Israel.
He's a CHUMP
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Isn't it common practice for leftists to troll conservative sites with inflammatory comments that upset and anger the readership?
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Glenn Beck has gone NUTS.
He is feeding little diseased illegals and giving them teddy bears in Cali/TX.
He is pro "GLAAD" (Militant LGBT) just b/c Putin is anti homosexual PROPAGANDA.
Next think ya know, he'll be sending big bux to the Arabs occupying Israel.
He's a CHUMP
I don't know about the homos (never heard him on it) but about the illegals, its not a big deal. Helping the children while at the same time saying to enforce the laws and send them BACK isn't a problem at all. Giving them toys etc. wont actually encourage any more or any less.
About Israel this is what he said the latest, so he is definitely great on the issue of Israel.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5T0_czFQfM
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and the commiecrats are better?
so a few nazis complain about jews.
also which jews are they complaining about? usually its the evil ones anyway.
why dont YOU as a JEW show them otherwise?
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Most of these of leftist trolls have been called out by other users.These are sock puppet accounts because many regulars tend to know who these people are.Of course some are Ron Paul supporters
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and the commiecrats are better?
so a few nazis complain about jews.
also which jews are they complaining about? usually its the evil ones anyway.
why dont YOU as a JEW show them otherwise?
No, there is much slander of Judaism in comments on some conservative blogs. Usually from supposed right-wing Christians using the standard deicide charge, that we are the Synagogue of Satan (according to the NT), that Jews are cheap or we steal from non-Jews. These types of slanders are typical antisemitism (and I have read quite a lot of material on what constitutes traditional and new-style antisemitism).
PS: Why do you inject that 'commiecrats are better'? Just because one group is bad does not justify the other group being bad. Sometimes I wonder about peoples moral code when things are all relative to them.
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I have seen a lot of support on Fox News and Frontpage magazine for Israel, also CBN, WND, Middle East Forum.
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....that we are the Synagogue of Satan (according to the NT), that Jews are cheap or we steal from non-Jews. These
what does that mean? do you mean that theres a passage in the christian bible that says synagogue of satan and all those other statements?
we're not talking about mormons are we?
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Temple Beth Hell
what does that mean? do you mean that theres a passage in the christian bible that says synagogue of satan and all those other statements?
we're not talking about mormons are we?
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Temple Beth Hell
¿¿Que senior??
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Temple Beth Hell
LOL!
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I know this isn't the root cause of anti-Semitism but it would help a whole lot if American Jews didn't have the tendency to be so extreme left wing because that gives a lot of material to the anti-Semites to work with.
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No, there is much slander of Judaism in comments on some conservative blogs. Usually from supposed right-wing Christians using the standard deicide charge, that we are the Synagogue of Satan (according to the NT), that Jews are cheap or we steal from non-Jews. These types of slanders are typical antisemitism (and I have read quite a lot of material on what constitutes traditional and new-style antisemitism).
PS: Why do you inject that 'commiecrats are better'? Just because one group is bad does not justify the other group being bad. Sometimes I wonder about peoples moral code when things are all relative to them.
No, there is much slander of Judaism in comments on some conservative blogs. Usually from supposed right-wing Christians using the standard deicide charge, that we are the Synagogue of Satan (according to the NT), that Jews are cheap or we steal from non-Jews. These types of slanders are typical antisemitism (and I have read quite a lot of material on what constitutes traditional and new-style antisemitism).
Most of the Jewish Voices for Peace temples are temples of satan
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I think the synagogue of Satan think is just another mistranslated or pulling out of context in the KJV that beleives in unicorns. I think the synagogue in the original greek is sunagogue or sometthing similar which actually means church. From comments I've seen on some sites the KJV is of course the best translation in the world, which takes some terrible reasoning to justify.
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The synagogue of Satan looks very similar to the left winger Hollywood types and university professors and others like them that proclaim their Jewishness loudly and then promote the vilest evil in its name, calling it progressivism and Tikkun Olam.
I'd have to be blind not to acknowledge those people exist and to hate what they're doing.
The difference between me and a lot of people though is that I don't see that and then go on to say all Jews are bad. I believe that there are some very good Jewish people and that they shouldn't be condemned along with the bad people.
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I think it's a spoof (the original name "Beth El" means house of God) name Chaim has used on some left wing auto-antisemitic temple or synagogue in NY.
¿¿Que senior??
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Most of the Jewish Voices for Peace temples are temples of satan
Are you trying to be funny? These nazi bastards don't give a hoot about whether Jews are liberal or not. Do you think Hitler cared about which kind of Jews he was sending to the gas chambers? It is not funny to make such a foolish statement. They hate all Jews, not the ones who you hate.
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Mord,
If someone said to you 'Jews are cheap bastards' would you immediately assume they are talking about the liberal Jews only? If so you are exhibiting naivete. When the nazis said they wanted to round up all the Jews and burn them in ovens a lot of Jews thought 'Hey, they are talking about THOSE Jews, you know, the ones with the big hooked noses.... But us hard working Jews, they don't want to annihilate us.'.
It is that kind of stupidity which led a lot of righteous Jews into the ovens.
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Senator Jesse Helms admitted to Rabbi Kahane he didn't like Jews because they (i.e. the vocal leftist self hating Jews) always worked against him when he tried to help Israel.
Mord,
If someone said to you 'Jews are cheap bastards' would you immediately assume they are talking about the liberal Jews only? If so you are exhibiting naivete. When the nazis said they wanted to round up all the Jews and burn them in ovens a lot of Jews thought 'Hey, they are talking about THOSE Jews, you know, the ones with the big hooked noses.... But us hard working Jews, they don't want to annihilate us.'.
It is that kind of stupidity which led a lot of righteous Jews into the ovens.
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Senator Jesse Helms admitted to Rabbi Kahane he didn't like Jews because they (i.e. the vocal leftist self hating Jews) always worked against him when he tried to help Israel.
But the comments which I am talking about are concerning all Jews... Not just liberal ones... So what is your point?
And the comment from Jesse Helms sounds antisemitic to me even though he claims he only doesn't like liberal Jews. Did Jesse Helms make similar comments about the non-Jewish liberals who vote against him? You realize that Jews are the minority in both parties and thus there are other voting blocks which are more important to politicians. So why is he so concerned about 'the Jews' and not about 'the liberal Catholics'?
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Maybe Pat Buchanan only hates the liberal Jews too? Ever think about that?
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But the comments which I am talking about are concerning all Jews... Not just liberal ones... So what is your point?
And the comment from Jesse Helms sounds antisemitic to me even though he claims he only doesn't like liberal Jews. Did Jesse Helms make similar comments about the non-Jewish liberals who vote against him? You realize that Jews are the minority in both parties and thus there are other voting blocks which are more important to politicians. So why is he so concerned about 'the Jews' and not about 'the liberal Catholics'?
While the Jews are a minority in both parties, the Jews collectively give a much higher % of campaign contributions than the % of Jewish eligible voters. The major two political parties make a major effort to secure campaign contributions from Jews.
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There is no excuse for Jew hated. And I don't believe antisemitism is related to which way a Jew votes.
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There is no excuse for Jew hated. And I don't believe antisemitism is related to which way a Jew votes.
I certainly agree with your first sentence.
Regarding your second sentence, I don't think there's a universal answer. While most anti-Semites would categorize the Jews as one big unit instead of individuals, there are some anti-Semites that look differentiate between the different types of Jews. There's almost always still anti-Semitism on their part but they justify the anti-Semitism differently with politically Conservative Jews vs. Liberal Jews. In the case of the politically Conservative Jews, such as the JTF Jews, the term ' Israel firster' is used by the anti-Semites.
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I believe Chaim and Rabbi Kahane's judgement of character. He wanted to help the Jews and Israel as he believed God commands him to do that. So even though it was wrong to generalise his opinion on "the Jews" he was basically a good honest man who really wanted to help Israel. You need to see both sides of the coin those liberal Jews love to look down on southern bible believers, they love to make fun of them and promote the false image that they are primitive bible thumping gun slinging racist morons.
But the comments which I am talking about are concerning all Jews... Not just liberal ones... So what is your point?
And the comment from Jesse Helms sounds antisemitic to me even though he claims he only doesn't like liberal Jews. Did Jesse Helms make similar comments about the non-Jewish liberals who vote against him? You realize that Jews are the minority in both parties and thus there are other voting blocks which are more important to politicians. So why is he so concerned about 'the Jews' and not about 'the liberal Catholics'?
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I believe Chaim and Rabbi Kahane's judgement of character. He wanted to help the Jews and Israel as he believed God commands him to do that. So even though it was wrong to generalise his opinion on "the Jews" he was basically a good honest man who really wanted to help Israel. You need to see both sides of the coin those liberal Jews love to look down on southern bible believers, they love to make fun of them and promote the false image that they are primitive bible thumping gun slinging racist morons.
I have heard that Jesse Helms was a friend of Chaims and a supporter of Israel. I do not hold it against him personally, but my complaint is the negative comments concerning Jews on many blogs... I hope to see more refuting of their claims, defense of the righteous Jews.
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I believe Chaim and Rabbi Kahane's judgement of character. He wanted to help the Jews and Israel as he believed God commands him to do that. So even though it was wrong to generalise his opinion on "the Jews" he was basically a good honest man who really wanted to help Israel. You need to see both sides of the coin those liberal Jews love to look down on southern bible believers, they love to make fun of them and promote the false image that they are primitive bible thumping gun slinging racist morons.
I always had the stereotype the all east coast people(especially New Yorkers) were stuck up, ritzy, pretty boy and girls, rude, run their mouth to much, scared of dirt and manual labor, leftists, etc...
Fists up?
But... over the last couple of year's... I see that this is not true. I have got to know some pretty awesome east coasters!
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My father was subject to some undeserved antisemitism when he drove through the South in his youth. My father was one of the most conservative Rebublicans I have ever known (valiantly defending Nixon till the end) who was called a 'Jew Boy' by a Highway Patrol because my dad had NY plates. Maybe they thought he was a liberal Jew but they were mistaken....
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Most American Jews are extreme liberals, not just slightly leaning to the left. So when people here read or hear a Jewish name it's reasonable to expect that person is probably a liberal unless they show otherwise. That doesn't mean that it's right to act in a hateful way of course because the assumption could be wrong.
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There is no excuse for Jew hated. And I don't believe antisemitism is related to which way a Jew votes.
I don't like your nose but I like your money.
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Maybe Pat Buchanan only hates the liberal Jews too? Ever think about that?
Why think about this when it isn't true? Clearly contradicted by the facts..
Helms helped Chaim get kosher food when he was in jail. And that was before political correctness of today where frum criminals are guaranteed glatt kosher. Anyone claiming Helms was an antisemite is off his rocker.
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I don't like your nose but I like your money.
Lol