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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joe Gutfeld on November 06, 2014, 12:24:59 PM
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What do you guys think of the fact that Jews are banned from praying at the temple mount? I know that there is an article on the new news feed on the web site. Is Chaim going to do a video on this topic?
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It's just so evil. G-d will severely punish Netanyahu and the others responsible for cowardly caving in to and rewarding Muslim Nazi terrorists who wish a holocaust against the Jews (G-d forbid) and preventing Jews from praying and serving Hashem (while Muslim Nazi butchers have full access and can do anything they want). It's just beyond evil.
And where is the outcry here from Jews in the United States?
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It's just so evil. G-d will severely punish Netanyahu and the others responsible for cowardly caving in to and rewarding Muslim Nazi terrorists who wish a holocaust against the Jews (G-d forbid) and preventing Jews from praying and serving Hashem (while Muslim Nazi butchers have full access and can do anything they want). It's just beyond evil.
And where is the outcry here from Jews in the United States?
We know that most American Jews are traitor, leftist JINOs. Where is the outcry from Jews in Israel? That is the question. Why is Yehuda Glick seen as a fringe figure--why do almost all Israelis support this nonsense?
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http://jtf.org/netanyahu-reiterates-no-jews-allowed-to-pray-on-temple-mount/
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I am shocked that the media is portraying Jews who long for the Tempe as 'extremists' rather than 'Civil Rights' leaders. Every Jew has an absolute right to be able to pray wherever they want to, especially at the most holy places of Judaism. This is more of a civil rights issue than being extreme about anything. Imagine that Martin Luther was considered an extremist for his position on civil rights?
We must change the narrative towards civil rights for Jews to be able to pray wherever they are. No government can limit a Jews prayers...
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We know that most American Jews are traitor, leftist JINOs. Where is the outcry from Jews in Israel? That is the question. Why is Yehuda Glick seen as a fringe figure--why do almost all Israelis support this nonsense?
What exactly do you and others here have planned? Shall we start a Jewish resistance militia in Montana/Idaho??
90% of American Jews are indeed traitors, but there is a fringe, like me and few others, like , hopefully, you guys here, who are ready to stand up to this tyranny. The Jews in Israel, for the most part, are very liberal, socialistic and also do a lot of Arab/European As$ worshiping.
No, IMO, making aliyah is not the answer when the only thing you do is get shot by some sand n**ger and then are treated like the criminal by your own countrymen. Why wasn't Yehuda Glick allowed to own a gun and protect himself? Because the current state of Israel sucks b*lls, big time.
Now, my question is, what are you and others going to do about it?
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This is old news & has been going on for a long time.
It isn't like this just happened yesterday or today.
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Where is the outcry from Jews in Israel? That is the question. Why is Yehuda Glick seen as a fringe figure--why do almost all Israelis support this nonsense?
The vast majority if not all know that Jews in Israel give everything to arabs but the majority don't say anything, you'll see them fight if a Jew receive much more than he should but for arabs they shut up.
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What exactly do you and others here have planned? Shall we start a Jewish resistance militia in Montana/Idaho??
90% of American Jews are indeed traitors, but there is a fringe, like me and few others, like , hopefully, you guys here, who are ready to stand up to this tyranny. The Jews in Israel, for the most part, are very liberal, socialistic and also do a lot of Arab/European As$ worshiping.
No, IMO, making aliyah is not the answer when the only thing you do is get shot by some sand n**ger and then are treated like the criminal by your own countrymen. Why wasn't Yehuda Glick allowed to own a gun and protect himself? Because the current state of Israel sucks b*lls, big time.
Now, my question is, what are you and others going to do about it?
Is there a day that goes by where you don't find the chance to make some prejudiced and ignorant insult to the entire Jewish people?
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"Vinegar son of Vinegar", Ovadiya "Kessef" Yosef's son "Chief Rabbi of Israel" Yitzhak Yosef, even more demented than his father, now chimes in that Jews are forbidden to ascend the Temple Moount and that it is they who are responsible for the violence and Jewish deaths!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4589239,00.html
(http://hamodia.com/hamod-uploads/2013/09/Rav.jpg)
"When the Moshiach comes there will be only 6000 Jews alive in the Land of Israel" (Chessed l'Avraham 1630)
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Is there a day that goes by where you don't find the chance to make some prejudiced and ignorant insult to the entire Jewish people?
He didn't say anything wrong nothing to be infuriated about! all he said is right he went a bit far with the 90% traitors :P 85% more accurate. He asked a question which is what are you gonna do.
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"Any Jew who prays on the Har Habayis is chayav missah"!
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Chief-Rabbi-Jewish-prayer-on-Temple-Mount-is-crime-punishable-by-death-381106
It's a shame that R.Bar Chayim has been indisposed for the duration by his wife's collapse, as Kahanists generally look to him for a psak on these matters. Bar Chayim is good at giving chapter & verse Halachic sources to support Kahanist positions.
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He didn't say anything wrong nothing to be infuriated about! all he said is right he went a bit far with the 90% traitors :P 85% more accurate. He asked a question which is what are you gonna do.
Yehuda, I just ignore LKZ now.. The guy has serious mental issues..
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What exactly do you and others here have planned? Shall we start a Jewish resistance militia in Montana/Idaho??
90% of American Jews are indeed traitors, but there is a fringe, like me and few others, like , hopefully, you guys here, who are ready to stand up to this tyranny. The Jews in Israel, for the most part, are very liberal, socialistic and also do a lot of Arab/European As$ worshiping.
No, IMO, making aliyah is not the answer when the only thing you do is get shot by some sand n**ger and then are treated like the criminal by your own countrymen. Why wasn't Yehuda Glick allowed to own a gun and protect himself? Because the current state of Israel sucks b*lls, big time.
Now, my question is, what are you and others going to do about it?
I wouldn't say that 90% of Jews are traitors. About 30% vote Republican. That may not be a whole lot but Jews are less leftist than negroes and Hispanics at least.
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I expect Chaim to speak about this in his opening on this weeks Ask JTF.
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He didn't say anything wrong nothing to be infuriated about! all he said is right he went a bit far with the 90% traitors :P 85% more accurate. He asked a question which is what are you gonna do.
Yeah yeah. Every question has to have a little section to hate Jews in it. I've seen enough from this fraud that it isn't fooling me.
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I wouldn't say that 90% of Jews are traitors. About 30% vote Republican. That may not be a whole lot but Jews are less leftist than negroes and Hispanics at least.
Sorry, I threw out a ballpark figure.. Perhaps, 90% of the Jews where I live are traitors..
Let's not say most Jews are traitors, let's just say there is a lot of them.. I just got attacked by the Rabbi Paul Strasko at Congregation Kol Shalom in Bainbridge Island, Washington after confronting him on why he supported the Nazi like gun control measure of I-594. He threatened me on the phone and I told him I am not backing down and will do what I can to petition the people of Bainbridge Island to work to shutting down this fake synagogue of heathens who promote the destruction of the freedoms of the American people.
Sadly, scum like this gives the good and noble Jewish people a bad name.
Jacob Rosenblum is still attending the Chabad in Bellingham, Washington despite my objections.. The arrogant Chabad rabbis don't have the backbone to stand up against Rabbi Avremi and push the traitor out. He's probably still winning the hearts and minds of the dumb Jewish college kids who attend Western Washington University. If I cannot get a Palestinian Nationalist out of the Chabad, how am I going to convince people to support the rights and freedoms of Americans and Israeli people. Jews are some of the diligent workers for the destruction of the freedoms and liberties of both Americans and Israeli people.
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I wouldn't say that 90% of Jews are traitors. About 30% vote Republican. That may not be a whole lot but Jews are less leftist than negroes and Hispanics at least.
BTW, you never answered my question.. I love it out how people here love to avoid these questions, but will never cease to complain about the situation.
WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING ABOUT IT?? Jews not being able to pray on the Temple Mount? Are any of you guys going to do something are just keep kvetching about it?
Please, don't tell me in 5 years you will make aliyah and your votes will change all this.. Yehuda Glick made a fine martyr , but the bullets in his body are probably not going to change the situation.. Any better ideas except getting shot up by sand rats and hoping the world will sympathize with your suffering, which they will probably not?
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This ban on the Jews shall be lifted immediately.
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BTW, you never answered my question.. I love it out how people here love to avoid these questions, but will never cease to complain about the situation.
WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING ABOUT IT?? Jews not being able to pray on the Temple Mount? Are any of you guys going to do something are just keep kvetching about it?
Please, don't tell me in 5 years you will make aliyah and your votes will change all this.. Yehuda Glick made a fine martyr , but the bullets in his body are probably not going to change the situation.. Any better ideas except getting shot up by sand rats and hoping the world will sympathize with your suffering, which they will probably not?
He's not Jewish. He doesn't have to do anything. I'm also planning on doing nothing though, but I'd vote for anyone who wanted the temple back.
Don't demean what happened to Rabbi Glick. Like "your" community, you know nothing about him.
All you ever do is "complain". Anyone claiming to be on a quest to better the Jewish people that doesn't stop cursing ones he doesn't know and large groups of them is just lashing out at them.
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I am not sure what can be done about it. Israel is so self-loathing and so insane that I'm not sure how the people can be awakened from this crazy double standard. When the three boys and the young woman were kidnapped and murdered by Hamas, Arabs all over Israel celebrated by rioting and firing rockets into Israel and everyone just let them. When one Arab boy was allegedly murdered by "Jewish extremists", all of Israeli Jewry demanded the hanging of the six kids supposedly responsible and groveling Israelis came to show their condolences to the family of the little swine (who made the hand signal celebrating the murders of the Jews). In fact the mother of one of the victims (Mrs. Frenkel I think) officially said she had sympathy for the mother of the dead Fakestinian boy. I made a thread about it and some JTFers said I was being too harsh on her.
If an entire city rose up and paralyzed the country like the leftniks in Tel Aviv and Haifa do every single time Israel pretends to wage a war against Arab terror, I suspect things would change. But we are a law-abiding movement, and no matter how violent leftist mobs are they never get arrested or stopped, whereas all we need to do is say that we disagree with an attempted murder and the Israeli Gestapo comes out in force to haul us away--with the complete approval of the Israeli Jewish public who says "we need to be the good guys no matter what" and other such insane crap.
Maybe if tourists visiting the Temple Mount began raising a big fuss it would make some impact. I don't really know.
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He's not Jewish. He doesn't have to do anything. I'm also planning on doing nothing though, but I'd vote for anyone who wanted the temple back.
Don't demean what happened to Rabbi Glick. Like "your" community, you know nothing about him.
All you ever do is "complain". Anyone claiming to be on a quest to better the Jewish people that doesn't stop cursing ones he doesn't know and large groups of them is just lashing out at them.
He's a Jewish Task Force member, so therefore he has a duty like every other "Task Force" member. What's the point of calling yourself a Task Force if you don't perform any tasks? If you are waiting for Jews alone to come and save Israel, you probably will be waiting a while, since Jews seem to be as much of the problem of liberating Israel as the solution.
Rabbi Glick is a Tzadik, unlike your whining , groveling butt. Just because I think he took those bullets in vain and will not make a difference in changing the situation on the Temple Mount doesn't mean I don't believe he isn't one of the greatest and most noble men out there. I rather see Arabs taking bullets defending Al Aqsa than Jews taking bullets defending the Temple Mount.. To quote General Patton, "The idea of a battle, he said, is not to die for your country but to make 'the other son of a b*tch die for his'".
Oh yeah, I forgot I was ignoring you, you are a one-way conversation and got your head way too far up the rectal region to understand or be wiling to have rational or intellectual discourse.
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I am not sure what can be done about it. Israel is so self-loathing and so insane that I'm not sure how the people can be awakened from this crazy double standard. When the three boys and the young woman were kidnapped and murdered by Hamas, Arabs all over Israel celebrated by rioting and firing rockets into Israel and everyone just let them. When one Arab boy was allegedly murdered by "Jewish extremists", all of Israeli Jewry demanded the hanging of the six kids supposedly responsible and groveling Israelis came to show their condolences to the family of the little swine (who made the hand signal celebrating the murders of the Jews). In fact the mother of one of the victims (Mrs. Frenkel I think) officially said she had sympathy for the mother of the dead Fakestinian boy. I made a thread about it and some JTFers said I was being too harsh on her.
If an entire city rose up and paralyzed the country like the leftniks in Tel Aviv and Haifa do every single time Israel pretends to wage a war against Arab terror, I suspect things would change. But we are a law-abiding movement, and no matter how violent leftist mobs are they never get arrested or stopped, whereas all we need to do is say that we disagree with an attempted murder and the Israeli Gestapo comes out in force to haul us away--with the complete approval of the Israeli Jewish public who says "we need to be the good guys no matter what" and other such insane crap.
Maybe if tourists visiting the Temple Mount began raising a big fuss it would make some impact. I don't really know.
BrennanFan, I'm agreeing that the situation is grim. What is the point of constantly talking about how horrible things are in Israel? What I would love to start hearing you and others here talk about is finding some solutions to these problems. I feel people here spend over 99% of the time complaining about the problems and 1% of the time talking about any solutions to them. Waiting for Moshiach to come is not very pro-active approach. Also, until Chaim is in Israel, I am not going to bet my farm on Chaim, alone, saving Israel , either. He's been stuck here for long time and not sure when he is going to become Israel's leader. Until then, we have to be open to other solutions.
Law abiding? What does that mean , anyway? Who here was talking about breaking any laws? Quite the contrary, unlike Israel, we have a Constitution in this country that allows us to stand up for our rights, liberties and freedoms and to promote such rights, freedoms and liberties across the globe.
So, do you have rallies planned? Are you going to send armed JTF Kahanists to Israel to protect more Jewish freedom advocates like Yehuda Glick? Are we going to let the next guy who is speaking out for the freedoms of Jewish people get some bullets put into him too?
How about starting a fundraiser to invest in bullet proof vests/body armor and armed security for such people? A bulletproof vest could have saved Yehuda Glick from incurring as much damage as he had and almost killing him.
Even better, if you guys are a task force, shouldn't you have a militia set up that is heavily armed, trained and ready to defend yourself against violent and criminal perpetrators like these Islamist fanatics that are themselves forming militias and training themselves to murder innocent people, both here in the USA and Israel?
I guess I am all about solutions rather than constantly complaining. The world just sucks.. If we can just make one bit of difference then we are starting to get somewhere.
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He's not Jewish. He doesn't have to do anything. I'm also planning on doing nothing though, but I'd vote for anyone who wanted the temple back.
Don't demean what happened to Rabbi Glick. Like "your" community, you know nothing about him.
All you ever do is "complain". Anyone claiming to be on a quest to better the Jewish people that doesn't stop cursing ones he doesn't know and large groups of them is just lashing out at them.
I am ethnically 100% part of the "community" and I have to say that his viewpoint of American Jews (as well as French Jews as apparent from my time in Israel) is not far off. In Israel, even the left-leaning Jews who I lived with were still eons further to the right than the average leftist Jew in the USA and that is saying something.
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BrennanFan, I'm agreeing that the situation is grim. What is the point of constantly talking about how horrible things are in Israel? What I would love to start hearing you and others here talk about is finding some solutions to these problems...
Well, Israel does have plenty of right-wing groups which go out, march and so on. In the USA though there is nothing but a sea of beyond leftist and apathetic Jews. In the USA, the people which I have found share our views also are the same people who seemingly despise Jews and blame them for everything.
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Brennanfan is onto something. The Israeli regime doesn't care what religious Jews say or those kahanist guys either. But a "cash cow" like tourists and/or evangelical christians? If they started demanding action against the waqf, Israel's leaders would probably spontaneously combust due to fear. But of course the evangelicals are too busy being "pro Israel" by supporting bibi against perceived slights by obama. I wish they would wake up to the fact that there is a phony right in Israel and quit playing puppy dog to the likud cowards.
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Well, Israel does have plenty of right-wing groups which go out, march and so on. In the USA though there is nothing but a sea of beyond leftist and apathetic Jews. In the USA, the people which I have found share our views also are the same people who seemingly despise Jews and blame them for everything.
Which means they don't really share our views...
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Brennanfan is onto something. The Israeli regime doesn't care what religious Jews say or those kahanist guys either. But a "cash cow" like tourists and/or evangelical christians? If they started demanding action against the waqf, Israel's leaders would probably spontaneously combust due to fear. But of course the evangelicals are too busy being "pro Israel" by supporting bibi against perceived slights by obama. I wish they would wake up to the fact that there is a phony right in Israel and quit playing puppy dog to the likud cowards.
It makes logical sense, facts of the matter aside. Oi to us if we look for our salvation from there, and don't think that Hashem would allow it.
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I am ethnically 100% part of the "community" and I have to say that his viewpoint of American Jews (as well as French Jews as apparent from my time in Israel) is not far off. In Israel, even the left-leaning Jews who I lived with were still eons further to the right than the average leftist Jew in the USA and that is saying something.
Hi nice to meet you. I have no clue who you are, and I was talking about Stinks. About 1/3 of Jews I meet here are leftists, and I've managed to convince outspoken socialists who are intermarried that the Kahanist position is right (gonna miss that), so they all have the same Jewish heart that can be spoken to, if you can calm down on the curses and put-downs for a minute.
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Brennanfan is onto something. The Israeli regime doesn't care what religious Jews say or those kahanist guys either. But a "cash cow" like tourists and/or evangelical christians? If they started demanding action against the waqf, Israel's leaders would probably spontaneously combust due to fear. But of course the evangelicals are too busy being "pro Israel" by supporting bibi against perceived slights by obama. I wish they would wake up to the fact that there is a phony right in Israel and quit playing puppy dog to the likud cowards.
KWR if you knew how rotted-out evangelicalism has become in America, particularly among the youth, you'd at least momentarily forget about Jewish self-hatred. Suffice it to say that getting us to support Israel, period, is getting increasingly difficult. ::)
That being said, it is still the biggest single Gentile source of support for Israel there is. If someone like Huckabee were willing to start seriously taking Lewinsky to task, perhaps he could start a greater movement.
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Brennanfan is onto something. The Israeli regime doesn't care what religious Jews say or those kahanist guys either. But a "cash cow" like tourists and/or evangelical christians? If they started demanding action against the waqf, Israel's leaders would probably spontaneously combust due to fear. But of course the evangelicals are too busy being "pro Israel" by supporting bibi against perceived slights by obama. I wish they would wake up to the fact that there is a phony right in Israel and quit playing puppy dog to the likud cowards.
It's the cash cow more than anything else... Namely the tourist dollar... I have been saying it here for years... The bottom line is that Israel is a small country and money like that is hard to toss away...
Parts of Israel are now being seen as a number 1 gay destination... It's hard to turn away people who in many cases are well off and cause very little trouble... This also the case with the bible belt folks... The sword however cuts both ways with many of the groups... The gays tend to be liberal and support a two state solution and holy rollers of all variety want control of whatever holy sites they feel are important... A Israel with right wing values would put a crimp in what many of the groups are interested in... I think at this point it would be a big adjustment for most of the groups if Israel's government decided to take even a moderate kahanist approach to things...
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http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/270239/bayit-yehudi-against-rishon-ltzion-rav-yosef.html#comment-717840
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http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/270239/bayit-yehudi-against-rishon-ltzion-rav-yosef.html#comment-717840
The charedi response to this issue has been downright sickening. I hope you are not misled by their senseless propaganda.
I read the Yated on this issue on Shabbos and I felt the need to vomit. I'm debating writing an article on it.
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The charedi response to this issue has been downright sickening. I hope you are not misled by their senseless propaganda.
I read the Yated on this issue on Shabbos and I felt the need to vomit. I'm debating writing an article on it.
G-D forbid! I am sick of it as well. That is why I posted this response against them by Bennett.
Look at the crap at "the yeshivaworld" about this.
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G-D forbid! I am sick of it as well. That is why I posted this response against them by Bennett.
Look at the crap at "the yeshivaworld" about this.
Ok. I wasn't sure since you just put the link, if you are in support of Bennett's comment or in support of YWN writer.
It's a joke the way YWN pretends that Bayit Yehudi is somehow beholden to Rav Yosef. Why would they be? But if they pretend to that fact, they can mislead their readers into thinking Bayit Yehudi just blatantly disobeys rabbinical guidance (even tho in reality B Y never actually claimed to follow R Yosef).
All of these haredi papers are the same: "We are the only ones who follow halacha and if you don't follow our rabbis you are not following halacha and bringing curses down on the world."
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Ok. I wasn't sure since you just put the link, if you are in support of Bennett's comment or in support of YWN writer.
It's a joke the way YWN pretends that Bayit Yehudi is somehow beholden to Rav Yosef. Why would they be? But if they pretend to that fact, they can mislead their readers into thinking Bayit Yehudi just blatantly disobeys rabbinical guidance (even tho in reality B Y never actually claimed to follow R Yosef).
All of these haredi papers are the same: "We are the only ones who follow halacha and if you don't follow our rabbis you are not following halacha and bringing curses down on the world."
They themselves regularly poke at Shas as well. Now its something they are in agreement with so now its "gedolim" argument again
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Kwrbt write it. Perhaps it will be put on JTF
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Shas is one of the supremest forms of evil in Israel.
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They are ^^ voluntarily hiding the real motive of the Divine plan in order to keep privileges they are receiving, they are in agreement with the evil israeli government in order to prevent any change on the temple mount, Israel should taught the Hareidim that taking possession of Jewish lands and built the temple is a divine commandment that should not wait the coming Moshiah in that sense they are doing more wrondoing to Israel that good.
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Yosef instructs Pipi to close the Har Habyis to Jews permanently
http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/286970
Chaim said that Shas is "the most unbelievably evil party in Israel" & that his father Ovadiya was "completely demented", & his son is following like his father. Those Sefards, which is most of them, who still continue to worship the Yosefs will not be zocheh to witness the Hisgalus!
Everything about a Yosef face is wrong, wrong, wrong!
(http://www.inn.co.il/static/pictures/504/504523.jpg)
The Kabbalah speaks about sheidim - demons- who take on the guise & appearance of a talmid chochom, but their goal is to demoralize the Am Yisroel!
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I would advocate with G-d, guns and brazen glory we, the Jewish people, storm the Temple Mount and pray in our own land in our own Holy Place!! Every Jew who dies attempting to reach the Mount to make tefillot receives a special reward in Olam HaBah.
How long will we kiss the a$ses of the Anti-Jewish vermin? We cannot kvetch forever.. Sooner or later, we must take action!
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I would advocate with G-d, guns and brazen glory we, the Jewish people, storm the Temple Mount and pray in our own land in our own Holy Place!! Every Jew who dies attempting to reach the Mount to make tefillot receives a special reward in Olam HaBah.
How long will we kiss the a$ses of the Anti-Jewish vermin? We cannot kvetch forever.. Sooner or later, we must take action!
You still need to know where you can go (by Jewish law) and if from where going to Mikwah beforehand is a necessity.
+ If one will die anyway why would they do so in this fashion when they can at least take down as many mudrats as possible in the process as well? And I don't mean here in this situation with many police that will definitely stop you beforehand. If hypnotically speaking one would already get guns and be willing to die, then at least make it count and their are many places of "terrorism preaching" available.
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I get a kick out of the Hassidum. They don't reconize the state of Israel, but when Israel is attacked, they are the first ones to pray by the wailing wall. If that's not hypicrital(please excuse my poor spelling) I don't know what is
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I get a kick out of the Hassidum. They don't reconize the state of Israel, but when Israel is attacked, they are the first ones to pray by the wailing wall. If that's not hypicrital(please excuse my poor spelling) I don't know what is
These aren't Hassidim. Its more complicated than that.
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These aren't Hassidim. Its more complicated than that.
Seriously, what Tag said.
Joe if I remember correcctly you're Jewish, right? If so, get informed and educated to know who is who and what's what. Otherwise you do yourself a disservice and can hardly attempt to comment on these matters let alone understand them.
More than that, how can you decide on your own role within Jewish society if so unaware of all the issues and the history of our heritage along with its present day manifestations? You need to give yourself a chance to truly learn about the subject of your own identity that was passed down by your family for generations and generations. It's depriving yourself otherwise.
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Yosef instructs Pipi to close the Har Habyis to Jews permanently
http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/286970
Chaim said that Shas is "the most unbelievably evil party in Israel" & that his father Ovadiya was "completely demented", & his son is following like his father. Those Sefards, which is most of them, who still continue to worship the Yosefs will not be zocheh to witness the Hisgalus!
Everything about a Yosef face is wrong, wrong, wrong!
(http://www.inn.co.il/static/pictures/504/504523.jpg)
The Kabbalah speaks about sheidim - demons- who take on the guise & appearance of a talmid chochom, but their goal is to demoralize the Am Yisroel!
Trollua, I'm pretty sure Chaim never said Rav Ovadia was "completely demented". Did you perhaps come across the comment elsewhere?
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I'm pretty sure that a threatened boycott by Christian pilgrims, etc. would open the TM up.
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That belongs only to the Jews.
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ยจ^Israeli Jews deep asleep low national self esteem which enough on any country in the world to provoke revolution, there must be uprising in telaviv streets where people are quick to take offense on any breach of democracy that could violate illegal foreigners making headline on israel tvchannels upholding religious freedom as long as Jews aren't involved.