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Witness #1: BRIT-AM (Yair Davidy) - "Rediscovering the Lost Ten Tribes from a Jewish perspective" Yair Davidy's thoroughly documented research has shown that the Lost Ten Tribes, which had been transplanted to the outskirts of Assyria, came to be known as the Sakeans (they were previously known as Yitzakheans or in Aramaic, Isakeans). These Sakeans are known to have migrated across the Bosphorus and made their way into Europe to become the Scythians (S'kitheans) and Saxons (Saksons). Davidy's research has shown that other tribal groups of the Lost Ten Tribes also emerged in Europe under names similar to those of the Tribes of Israel, such as: Galics (Galileans); Danes (Dans); Cimereans (Simeons); Goths/Gots (Gads). After carefully tracing the migrations of the Tribes, Davidy has concluded that each of the Tribes generally came to be associated with a different national group: Ephraim = Britain; Manasseh = USA; Reuben = France; Simeon = Celts and Jews; Levi = with the Jews; Yehuda = Jutes and Jews; Issachar = Swiss and Fins; Zebulon = Holland; Gad = Sweden; Asher = Scots; Benjamin = Belgae and Normans; Dan = Danes and Celts; Naphtali = Norwegians."
Witness #2: UNITED ISRAEL - "Based on this and much additional recent research, our organization, United Israel, holds the position that it can definitely be shown that significant portions of the Lost Tribes migrated northwest, toward Europe and are to be found today among the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic and associated peoples. In other words the tribes are largely located today in the United States, Great Britain, north-western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and other scattered areas. They are primarily Protestant, tied to their Biblical heritage, and have by and large provided a hospitable climate for Jews."
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is this accurate?
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British Israelitism fairy tales; Something happened to lost tribes but nobody expet G-d knew what... This another para-science fantasy just like Aryan race mit.
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David Ben Ariel is an expert on this
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Yair-Davidy's ideas are based on pure conjecture; there is no credible academic documentation to be found in his writings.
I personally wrote Tamar at Arutz Sheva to make all of them aware that BRIT-AM not only lacked any and all credibility, but it also "fueled the fires" of the "Christian Identity Movement" (a bogus sect bordering on the tenets of Aryan Nations).
Tamar replied to me that ["...Davidy's ideas and work are good, because he is very frum..."
So much for idiocy...I rest my case.
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is this accurate?
No, it is not accurate.
The most likely candidates for the Ten Lost tribes are the Pathans of Afghanistan. Their tribal names are similar to the lost tribes names ie Efridi, Levani, Rabbani, Gaddani etc. They even have a small tribe that doesn't cut it's hair called the Waziri, like Nazir. They have a tradition of slaughtering meat that is kosher according to Jewish law. They refuse to eat Camel's meat despite the fact that Islam permits it. They stand when the Name of Musa or Moshe(Moses) is mentioned. They have shawls that look identically to the Talitoth(prayer shawls) that Jews wear. The pattern of black stripes on the cloth is identical as well. They have Arei Miklat(Cities of Refuge) that are prescribed by the Torah.
One Pathan I saw being interviewed, when asked about the Jews he said "My Grandfather told me 'The Jews are more Pathan than we are'."
One Jewish journalist who visited Afghanistan during the Taliban era was told not to tell people he was Jewish. He happened to tell one Pathan because they were looking at an ancient Aramaic stone carving and the Pathan asked him how he could read it. The journalist told him "I am a Jew". The Pathan then hugged him and said "You are my brother".
Just picture the scene. A Jew in one of the most fundamentalist Islamic countries in the world gets a hug instead of a bullet. There's no question in my mind that they comprise atleast four or five of the lost tribes.
The British have no connection to Israel, no Israelite customs, clothing.
Absolutely nothing.
British Israelism is completely insane.
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David Ben Ariel is an expert on this
hes a complete idiot.
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We are Aryans not Semitic. Thats just a common fact.
hes a complete idiot.
You're the same person that called Europeans "children of Esav".
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is this accurate?
No, it is not accurate.
The most likely candidates for the Ten Lost tribes are the Pathans of Afghanistan. Their tribal names are similar to the lost tribes names ie Efridi, Levani, Rabbani, Gaddani etc. They even have a small tribe that doesn't cut it's hair called the Waziri, like Nazir. They have a tradition of slaughtering meat that is kosher according to Jewish law. They refuse to eat Camel's meat despite the fact that Islam permits it. They stand when the Name of Musa or Moshe(Moses) is mentioned. They have shawls that look identically to the Talitoth(prayer shawls) that Jews wear. The pattern of black stripes on the cloth is identical as well. They have Arei Miklat(Cities of Refuge) that are prescribed by the Torah.
One Pathan I saw being interviewed, when asked about the Jews he said "My Grandfather told me 'The Jews are more Pathan than we are'."
One Jewish journalist who visited Afghanistan during the Taliban era was told not to tell people he was Jewish. He happened to tell one Pathan because they were looking at an ancient Aramaic stone carving and the Pathan asked him how he could read it. The journalist told him "I am a Jew". The Pathan then hugged him and said "You are my brother".
Just picture the scene. A Jew in one of the most fundamentalist Islamic countries in the world gets a hug instead of a bullet. There's no question in my mind that they comprise atleast four or five of the lost tribes.
The British have no connection to Israel, no Israelite customs, clothing.
Absolutely nothing.
British Israelism is completely insane.
This is true. I saw a documentary about the Pathans. This seems to be the most logical scenario.
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The British may have some phonecian blood. That's why some of them look middle eastern/jewish. The phonecians had colonies in Britain.
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I thought that Naphtali corresponded to the Afrikaners. But, why do I care, British Israelism is just wishful thinking gone a bit far.
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The British may have some phonecian blood. That's why some of them look middle eastern/jewish. The phonecians had colonies in Britain.
Old Phonecians were actually Aryan looking. See Carthage.
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XGamer: "We are Aryans not Semitic. Thats just a common fact."
It's "common" all right!
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XGamer: "We are Aryans not Semitic. Thats just a common fact."
It's "common" all right!
umm thats how its spelt.
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sooo.......Europeans are really of Iranian descent :-\
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Joseph stands before you!
Not All Twelve Tribes of Israel are Jewish? (http://ezinearticles.com/?&id=293050)
The Plain Truth About the "Lost Ten Tribes" and Why You Need to Know! (http://ezinearticles.com/?Lost-Ten-Tribes&id=102968)
Joseph Isn't Jewish! (http://ezinearticles.com/?Joseph-Isnt-Jewish&id=179011)
Origins of Nations (http://www.originofnations.org)
German-American Israelites? (http://ezinearticles.com/?German-American-Israelites?&id=196437)
Brit Am Israel (http://www.britam.org)
Call for Anglo-Israeli Alliance (http://ezinearticles.com/?Call-for-Anglo-Israeli-Alliance&id=107178)
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"DID YOU KNOW THAT....."
According to the Bible ten out of the twelve tribes of Israel split away (1-Kings 12:19), formed their own kingdom of "Israel" (1-Kings 12:20) and were exiled by the Assyrians (2-Kings 17:18). They forget their identity (Hosea 1:9 7:8 Isaiah 49:21) and became the Lost Ten Tribes. In the future they will re-unite with the Jews (Ezekiel 37, Isaiah 11:13 Jeremiah 3:18) of "Judah", but until then they have a role of their own to fulfill. They were destined to be situated at the continental extremities of the earth such as North America, the British Isles, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa (Deuteronomy 33:13 Isaiah 24:16 26:15 41:8-9 49:6), to be the richest (Genesis 27:28 49:25 Deuteronomy 33:13-16 Hosea 2:8), and most powerful (Numbers 24:8-7 Micah 5:7-9) nations on earth and to control major international strategic bases (Genesis 22:16-17 24:60). All of these points together with numerous others show that descendants of the Lost Ten Tribes (http://ezinearticles.com/?id=102968) can only be found amongst Western Nations especially the English-speaking ones. The correctness of our interpretation of the relevant verses, and your destiny, may depend upon this information. You need to know! www.britam.org (http://www.britam.org)
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Judaism's replacement theology and identity theft condemned (http://tentribes.blogspot.com/2007/06/judaisms-replacement-theology-and.html)
The religion of Judaism, whatever branch, can determine for themselves who they want to accept as "Jewish" - whether Indian or African CONVERTS to the religion of Judaism. No problem. Your religion. Your converts - real or imagined.
The problem arises when legitimate Hebrews such as myself (who don't need your approval or the British-ordained Chief Rabbinate's recognition of our Israelite origins to know who we are and embrace the biblical and historical fact that we are Joseph your brother - we merely reveal it to those willing to open their eyes and see or at hear and consider) see such blatant replacement theology, such anti-Semitism against Joes (Joseph was the leading tribe of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, capital Samaria), such IDENTITY THEFT and FRAUD, when such Jews by religion pretend clearly African/Negroid CONVERTS to Judaism are, "in part," descendants of Dan (they won't even claim them from Judah) or clearly Mongoloid/Indian CONVERTS to Judaism are from Menashe (http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=72142) (when they don't bear a single biblical birthmark of fulfilled prophecy with Joseph's blessing of power and prosperity). That's when the religion of Judaism crosses the line and must be opposed: when it attempts to steal our Israelite identity, the Hebrew roots of the West, and transfer them to Gentiles who want to move on up to Westernized Israel. Such identity theft will continue to be exposed and condemned, as it should be. Have your converts, just don't pretend they're ethnic Israelites because they're not. If they are, then you're not! It's that simple to objective folks.
Judaism's replacement theology and identity theft condemned (http://tentribes.blogspot.com/2007/06/judaisms-replacement-theology-and.html)
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You are a psychopath and a liar.
You AND ALL THE BRIT-AM PEOPLE ARE CHARLATANS.
The British nation was around during the Roman Empire. They made no claims on Israelite blood at any point in their history. Unless you consider the shedding of Blood that British soldiers did of Behalf of their Roman officers in Judea.
The British people were some of the most vicious Jew-Haters in History. You filthy Brits allowed 6 million to die and laughed while you did it. Then you tried to stop the creation of Israel.
Now you want to try and STEAL our Heritage, as well?!!?!?!?!?!
GO TO HELL, DAVID BEN ARIEL!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE ALL YOUR JOES AND BRIT-AM IDENTITY THEIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HOPE EVERY ONE OF YOU DIES PAINFUL DEATHS FROM CANCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We are Aryans not Semitic. Thats just a common fact.
hes a complete idiot.
You're the same person that called Europeans "children of Esav".
"Aryans"?! Are you from the subcontinent of Asia? You are again using the twisted Satanic terminology of your demented late Fuhrer, yimach shmo ve-zichro.
You know the late Fuhrer that you defended by telling us that his election was not an example of pure evil and that he was regarded as a hero by the German people.
You are not an "Aryan". You are just a Satanic Nazi coward. And you are banned.
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Joseph stands before you!
Not All Twelve Tribes of Israel are Jewish? (http://ezinearticles.com/?&id=293050)
The Plain Truth About the "Lost Ten Tribes" and Why You Need to Know! (http://ezinearticles.com/?Lost-Ten-Tribes&id=102968)
Joseph Isn't Jewish! (http://ezinearticles.com/?Joseph-Isnt-Jewish&id=179011)
Origins of Nations (http://www.originofnations.org)
German-American Israelites? (http://ezinearticles.com/?German-American-Israelites?&id=196437)
Brit Am Israel (http://www.britam.org)
Call for Anglo-Israeli Alliance (http://ezinearticles.com/?Call-for-Anglo-Israeli-Alliance&id=107178)
I think you were told before not to link your garbage cult. You should stop or one of the administraters should ban you.
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Thank you for echoing my sentiments.
This David Ben Ariel is a serious scumbag. I'm not a person who advocates banning people alot.
I defended FOTL before I realized the sick insane things he was writing.
I defended SherePunjab and said he shouldn't have been banned but if anyone deserves to be banned, it is DAVID BEN ARIEL.
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Thank you for echoing my sentiments.
This David Ben Ariel is a serious scumbag. I'm not a person who advocates banning people alot.
I defended FOTL before I realized the sick insane things he was writing.
I defended SherePunjab and said he shouldn't have been banned but if anyone deserves to be banned, it is DAVID BEN ARIEL.
I'm with you.
It's bad enough all the churches engaging in replacement theology without these stupid goyim engaging in identity theft.
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"Aryans"?! Are you from the subcontinent of Asia? You are again using the twisted Satanic terminology of your demented late Fuhrer, yimach shmo ve-zichro.
You know the late Fuhrer that you defended by telling us that his election was not an example of pure evil and that he was regarded as a hero by the German people.
You are not an "Aryan". You are just a Satanic Nazi coward. And you are banned.
THANK HASHEM! I've been wanting to rid the forum of this mentally ill twit for a long time. Good move, Jimmy!!
He never posts in the other threads... he just used our site as a platform and an "advertisement" to his insane blog.
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"Aryans"?! Are you from the subcontinent of Asia? You are again using the twisted Satanic terminology of your demented late Fuhrer, yimach shmo ve-zichro.
You know the late Fuhrer that you defended by telling us that his election was not an example of pure evil and that he was regarded as a hero by the German people.
You are not an "Aryan". You are just a Satanic Nazi coward. And you are banned.
THANK HASHEM! I've been wanting to rid the forum of this mentally ill twit for a long time. Good move, Jimmy!!
He never posts in the other threads... he just used our site as a platform and an "advertisement" to his insane blog.
Are you speaking of David Ben-Ariel or Xgamer?
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I should clarify since both are banned. I was referring to David.
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Germnanic people the worse enemy of civilised world and Jewish people since known history are lost Israeli tribes? Which part the LOST Tribes name the British Israelitism don't undertand? they disspaear in VII century BC so why Greek and Roman writters and yourneymen mere couple houndred years later never mentioned them? Enough of this and Aryanist garbage.