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Title: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: Ari on September 12, 2007, 12:09:44 AM
Do you guys think that Hollywood has ever made any decent, non-leftist films, or at least films that stay clear of politics altogether.  If so, what are some of your favorites?  I love mafia films like Goodfellas as well as a good comedy and horror film.  Thoughts?
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Post by: RationalThought110 on September 12, 2007, 12:17:20 AM
Forrest Gump had historical and political events but I don't think it was supposed to be political.  What do you think of that movie.
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Post by: Joe Schmo on September 12, 2007, 12:23:42 AM
Goodfellas?  A filthy piece of...
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Post by: Shoshana on September 12, 2007, 12:35:17 AM
Forrest Gump had historical and political events but I don't think it was supposed to be political.  What do you think of that movie.

I actually love that movie.
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Post by: kahaneloyalist on September 12, 2007, 01:04:42 AM
I love Exodus and Cast a Giant Shadow
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Post by: RationalThought110 on September 12, 2007, 01:09:07 AM
What's your opinion of "The Ten Commandments" film and does it have inaccurate content?
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Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 12, 2007, 01:53:16 AM
I love Goodfellas and Forrest Gump, I also liked Superman the return, check it out.  Indiana Jones all of em were great.  I wanted to see the Transformers yea that  I just love that kind of effects being that I work in graphics and that is computer simulated,, but during the summer when it came out I had the saga with my uncle so I'll wait.
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Post by: New Yorker on September 12, 2007, 01:58:35 AM

300 was fantastic, a masculine film about strength, and standing your ground against incredible odds, and kicking arabs' a5s even before Islam was invented.  :D
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 12, 2007, 02:05:00 AM
Somebody here mentioned the movie the Ten Commandments, starring Charlton Heston, made in the mid 1950's.  That happens to be my favorite movie of all time.  When I used to watch it as a teenager, I was genuinely inspired, dreaming of communicating with G-d and being as great as Moses was.

Unfortunately, the movie has some pretty glaring inaccuracies.  For one thing, the real Moses stuttered, and was the most humble man to ever walk the face of the Earth.  The Torah says as much.  Yet Moses according to Charlton Heston was this manly stud with a deep, commanding voice who was quite the womanizer. 

Nevertheless, the movie did get most of the Torah's account of the birth of our nation right, and the level of acting talent in that movie was phenomenal.  I would say it is the ultimate politically conservative movie, as it was clearly pro-Torah, and the whole basis of conservative thought is the Torah itself.

If any of you have not seen it, please see it.  Yes it is a very long movie, and yes, the special effects are pretty primtive compared to today's standards, but it really is a kind of life-changing experience just immersing oneself fully when watching that movie.

I was going to talk about two other movies that I put in the stratosphere of my favorite all-time movies, but figure I better keep this one focused on that one movie, The Ten Commandments. 

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Post by: RationalThought110 on September 12, 2007, 02:17:38 AM
The Shawshank Redemption is a great movie.

Tim Robbins recently said some awful things about the US military.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 12, 2007, 02:30:05 AM
That is because Tim Robbins is a left-wing liberal lunatic.  Central to their beliefs is to trash America every step of the way.
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Post by: Maccabi on September 12, 2007, 02:45:40 AM
I just saw 3:10 to Yuma

It was insanely bad garbage, a real disappointment
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Post by: Joe Schmo on September 12, 2007, 03:46:05 AM
Slingblade.
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Post by: Alexander on September 12, 2007, 03:51:15 AM
I'm a bit of a Star Wars geek. I love all the films and do some collecting. I think they have classic moral themes, good vs. evil and redemption.
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Post by: newman on September 12, 2007, 04:04:46 AM
Open Range with Kevin Costner & Robert Duvall.

This film is THE greatest western of all time AND it has absollute, unambiguous moral clarity. Such a change from the morally ambiguous drek slopped out by Hollywood these last 30+ years.
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Post by: Shoshana on September 12, 2007, 08:39:46 AM
I agree with a few of those mentioned here already. 300 was an excellant movie. The sheer masculinity of the men was worth a watch. :)
I also agree with Newman on Open Range. That is one of my favorites.
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Post by: Vito on September 12, 2007, 11:51:35 AM
The Ten Commandments
Boondock Saints
Citizen X
Fargo
The Bourne trilogy
Indiana Jones trilogy
The Dinner Game (French)
Life is Beautiful (Italian)
Exodus
Von Ryan's Express
Jaws (even though I hate Spielberg)
Seven Years in Tibet
Lake Placid
Cool Hand Luke
James Bond movies
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Post by: Ari on September 13, 2007, 05:02:44 PM
I'm a fan of quite a few of these films.  Forrest Gump is great.  I do enjoy Spielberg's non-political works like Jaws and Indiana Jones (looking forward to part 4 which they're filming now).  Shawshank is a fantastic film, regardless of Tim Robbin's leanings.  I also enjoy the Rocky film series, and Rambo wasn't bad as well (if you can believe it, they're making another one of these too, the trailer is on youtube and it looks pretty decent).  As for comedies, how about Caddyshack, Beverly Hills Cop, Midnight Run.
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Post by: nopeaceforland on September 16, 2007, 02:45:49 PM
The chutzpah on you people! I don't think anyone mentioned The Godfather 1 and/or 2?
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Post by: Sarah on September 16, 2007, 05:02:15 PM
Has anybody watched V  for Vendetta?
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 05:49:55 PM
Isn't V for Vendetta a movie with that pretty Israeli actress?  I do not recall her name at the moment, but she is sooo sexy when she speaks Hebrew.
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Post by: takebackourtemple on September 16, 2007, 06:10:20 PM
   I'll have to dig up my complaints about V for Vendetta since it's been a while since I saw it and posted about it.

   I'm not exactly sure what "The brave one" is about, but I saw a trailer about thugs attacking an old lady on the subway and then she took a gun out. The Bernard Goetz type of self defense is something I see as heroic. I hope the movie does not deliver a bad message about defending yourself.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 06:16:17 PM
The obvious movie to see that does honor vigilante justice is Death Wish (1974, the first one) starring the late great Jewish actor, Charles Bronson.  It is one of the most influential movies I ever saw, as it helped me become a Republican.
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Post by: mosquewatch on September 16, 2007, 06:22:39 PM
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I still get a bit teary eyed at the end of this movie. When I first saw it at the theatre, not a dry eye in the place. Now I must go watch a football game and reclaim my manhood. ;)
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Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 06:31:24 PM
The obvious movie to see that does honor vigilante justice is Death Wish (1974, the first one) starring the late great Jewish actor, Charles Bronson.  It is one of the most influential movies I ever saw, as it helped me become a Republican.

That film turned out to be prophetic when Bernard Goetz did 'the right thing' on NYC's subway system. The film showed the mindshift of a typical NYC, sniveling, liberal idiot to a righteous conservative.

 Of coarse in reality a liberal is too insane and morally convoluted to do any such thing. A real-life liberal would watch as his wife and children were raped and murdered by savages and then blame society and the lack of government spending.

The other completely unrealistic aspect of that film was that the muggers who killed his family were all white! What are the odds?
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Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 16, 2007, 06:42:55 PM
I haven't been to a movie theater in maybe 20 years.  I stopped going to the one in Fresh Meadows all the crazies ended up going there and they scream during the picture.   Over priced tickets, and the way cable and dish has gone no wonder the movie theather expirience has gone down.   I missed the RKO Keith, those in Queens would know what I mean.  It was a landmark at one time now its a dump for rats.
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Post by: nopeaceforland on September 16, 2007, 06:50:26 PM
The obvious movie to see that does honor vigilante justice is Death Wish (1974, the first one) starring the late great Jewish actor, Charles Bronson.  It is one of the most influential movies I ever saw, as it helped me become a Republican.

Charles Bronson was Jewish? I know his real name and everything, but I never heard any mention of him being Jewish. Don't get me wrong though, I am a huge fan of the Death Wish movies. Is there any proof?
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 06:53:24 PM
I do not remember the details of the Bernard Geotz Case, but my guess is that I would have supported him 100%.

For that matter, I support what Baruch Goldstein did in the early 1990s, when he killed a bunch of islamofascists praying in the Cave of the Patriarchs in the holy city of Hebron.  He is widely regarded as a terrorist, but from what I heard, he gunned down the very people who were about to wipe out the Jewish population of that city, as instructed to do by their moslem leaders.

The ones who killed Paul Kiersy's wife and raped his daughter in the movie Death Wish may have been white, but they were also kind of darker looking, like maybe they were Puerto Ricans.  Also, many of the muggers that he did subsequently kill, were Black, too.

What annoys me in a related subject is how movies made about terrorists never depict them as being islamofascists.  On the contrary, they are invariably portrayed as white people, usually Americans, probably even Republicans.  People are so afraid to tell the truth.

In any case, if any of you know of liberals you would just love to get onto our side of things, my best recommendation is to see that original Death Wish movie.  It really makes one think.
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Post by: Ari on September 16, 2007, 06:54:26 PM
Yes the Israeli Natalie Portman in V for Vendetta.  I only saw a couple of minutes of it channel surfing on HBO a while back.  Looked interesting.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 06:59:27 PM
Yes, Charles Bronson was definitely Jewish.  I remember being surprised about this as well, as he did not really look or act Jewish.  Harrison Ford is Jewish, too, but at least he sort of kind of looks and acts Jewish sometimes.

Somebody mentioned how theaters are not what they used to be.  Well, not to make anybody envious or anything, but here in Los Angeles, the relatively new theaters as the Grove shopping mall is fantastic.  The seats are super comfortable; the one sitting in front of a person is never in their face; the shopping mall has a little hot dog stand that is actually glatt kosher; there is a Barnes and Noble Bookstore in the mall, and even parking is plentiful and easy.  The mall is on the outside; there is a beautiful fountain whose water moves up and down according to the rythym of whatever song they are playing, which are usually very mainstream, all-American songs and singers such as Frank Sinatra.  One of the best things I like about the shopping mall is that it is in the same neighborhood as the city's most religious Jews, so that when I go there, I invariably see religious Jews, many of whom I recognize.  All in all, it is like a miniature paradise, right in the heart of the city of Los Angeles.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 07:01:01 PM
Natalie Portman, yes, that is her name.  Very pretty Israeli-born actress, although as I said, she never looked sexier than when I heard her speak Hebrew, which she does flawlessly.
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Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 07:03:24 PM
One of the best things I like about the shopping mall is that it is in the same neighborhood as the city's most religious Jews, so that when I go there, I invariably see religious Jews, many of whom I recognize.  All in all, it is like a miniature paradise, right in the heart of the city of Los Angeles.
It will (no doubt) be wrecked by the 'boons & 'backs soon enough.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 07:05:46 PM
Dare I ask what a 'Boon and a 'Back is?
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Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 07:06:52 PM
Dare I ask what a 'Boon and a 'Back is?
baboon and wetback.
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Post by: cjd on September 16, 2007, 07:23:37 PM
I haven't been to a movie theater in maybe 20 years.  I stopped going to the one in Fresh Meadows all the crazies ended up going there and they scream during the picture.   Over priced tickets, and the way cable and dish has gone no wonder the movie theather expirience has gone down.   I missed the RKO Keith, those in Queens would know what I mean.  It was a landmark at one time now its a dump for rats.
I glad to hear that I am not the only one that has given up on going to the movie house. The last movie I saw in a theater was The English Patient. It was not a bad picture if you got through the first half hour. We have multiplexes now on long Island and the screens are small and so are the theaters. Cell phones ringing and people talking. To top it all off when I got up to use the restroom during the movie I tripped over two legs sticking out in the isle. It seem to animals felt they could shack up behind the last row while the movie was going on. They laid down along the seats and might have remained undisturbed if they were more careful to keep their feet even with the seats and out of the isle. Being the old sour puss I am I sent the usher in to roust them right out. I remember the Fresh Meadows Theater when it only had one movie it was very nice. I also remember the RKO Keith's when it was a one movie theater and when it had the fish pond in the lobby. It was a treat just to go to that theater. I was very sad to see what became of it. The last time I went there was in the late 70's it was very bad they had to stop the picture more than once and turn the lights on because fights were breaking out in the place during the film. I guess places like that were for a different class of people and even if they existed today as the did then it would not be the same.
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Post by: firster555 on September 16, 2007, 07:28:34 PM
I guess some of these will be questioned as to morals/politics, etc. but as far as great movies, here goes,

Cool Hand Luke
On the Waterfront
Godfather
Manchurian Candidate(original)
Falling Down
Stalag 17
Von Ryans Express
White Heat
Blazing Saddles
History of the World
Death Wish
Glory
Primal Fear
Bang the Drum Slowly
The Hustler
Tombstone
Arlington Road
State of Grace
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Post by: firster555 on September 16, 2007, 07:33:27 PM
Wow, the RKO Keith's. The last movie I saw there was led Zepplin's The Song Remains the Same. I really feel old now.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 08:42:34 PM
Speaking of Blacks and Mexicans ruining an otherwise perfectly nice movie theater, that did actually happen to me once at the nice theater that I described above. i had gone to see the movie Pursuit of Happyness starring Will Smith. There were a group of Black people who not only would not stop talking, but must have been hard of hearing, as they were making sure the entire theater could hear them. 

Finally I had enough and told them to please be quiet.  Rather than feel embarrassed and ashamed, they only spoke louder.  I made the mistake of then saying I am going to report them, which I should not have done, because one of them followed me out of the theater, then put on a whole 'I am meek' act when I went to tell one of the ticket sellers about it.  The black guy who had followed me out of there, would not let me finish a sentence without accusing me of telling his poor girlfriend to shut up. 

I knew better than to try to get the people in charge to do the right thing, namely to kick those loudmouths out and let me stay, so instead I simply asked for my money back, which I got.  I returned to the same theater about a week later; fortunately, I encountered no more trouble at that time.

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Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 08:45:41 PM
Speaking of Blacks and Mexicans ruining an otherwise perfectly nice movie theater, that did actually happen to me once at the nice theater that I described above. i had gone to see the movie Pursuit of Happyness starring Will Smith. There were a group of Black people who not only would not stop talking, but must have been hard of hearing, as they were making sure the entire theater could hear them. 

TNB........Typical negro behaviour.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 09:46:04 PM
It reminds me of something I came across during my university studies in psychology.  That was back in the early 1980s, when the political correctness bug had not quite infected America.  Studies had shown that people's ethnic prejudices when exposed to those groups tended to diminish with every group except one: Blacks.  In other words, if somebody hated, say, Chinese people, but then interacted with them for a while, their level of resentment against the Chinese became less and less.  But the more one was exposed to Blacks, the more they came to resent them. 
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Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 09:48:48 PM
It reminds me of something I came across during my university studies in psychology.  That was back in the early 1980s, when the political correctness bug had not quite infected America.  Studies had shown that people's ethnic prejudices when exposed to those groups tended to diminish with every group except one: Blacks.  In other words, if somebody hated, say, Chinese people, but then interacted with them for a while, their level of resentment against the Chinese became less and less.  But the more one was exposed to Blacks, the more they came to resent them. 
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Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 16, 2007, 09:54:48 PM
I like Raiders of the lost Ark.  It was one of the greatest movies I've ever seen.  Plus, I like any movie when all the Nazis die at the end.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 09:56:37 PM
I suppose my only surprise is that they let that study be published in a college textbook.  If they tried that today, it would definitely be censored!

It reminds me of still another thing I read in the psychology books in those days: that male homosexuals are NOT more creative than heterosexuals, contrary to popular belief, and that such behavior is caused by men having never matured past the emotional age of a typical nine or ten year old boy, who at that age prefers to play with boys more than girls.

There is no way that such an idea would ever get into a college textbook today.  Its authors would be stripped of their professorial tenure, for daring to be so politically incorrect!
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 10:01:06 PM
That picture of those mean looking Black people is sure scary.  They look like the students in the classes I used to substitute teach in.  They also look like the people who held up my father in his liquor store almost fifty times, shooting him in his head and lungs.
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Post by: Joe Schmo on September 16, 2007, 10:02:59 PM
That picture of those mean looking Black people is sure scary. 

They look desperate.
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Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 10:03:41 PM
They also look like the people who held up my father in his liquor store almost fifty times, shooting him in his head and lungs.
That's TNB too.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 10:06:11 PM
what does TNB stand for?
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Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 10:13:20 PM
what does TNB stand for?
Typical negro behaviour.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 10:24:48 PM
oy vey... :o
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Post by: mosquewatch on September 16, 2007, 10:56:11 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pOvR2WudpV8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=pOvR2WudpV8) Just one of my favs.
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Post by: Ehud on September 16, 2007, 11:12:59 PM
It reminds me of something I came across during my university studies in psychology.  That was back in the early 1980s, when the political correctness bug had not quite infected America.  Studies had shown that people's ethnic prejudices when exposed to those groups tended to diminish with every group except one: Blacks.  In other words, if somebody hated, say, Chinese people, but then interacted with them for a while, their level of resentment against the Chinese became less and less.  But the more one was exposed to Blacks, the more they came to resent them. 

This is really interesting.  I don't doubt the accuracy of that kind of a study.  I really like Chinese Americans for the most part.  They're hard-working, humble, peaceable, intelligent, they have good values for the most part, value education, strong emphasis on respect for family and ancestors and respect for the wisdom of the elderly.  Pretty much everything exactly opposite from black people.  They're like polar opposites.

Chinese of China are notoriously sneaky, treacherous and untruthful though (my dad does lots of business with them), but I'm sure that has a lot to do with the fact that so many of them are so damned poor, they don't really have any other option.  They're still very hardworking and industrious.  Oh yeah and they have a respect for the Jewish people.  Very hard to find a Chinese anti-Semite.  They all wish to learn the secrets of the Jewish businessman.  Some see it as an anti-Semitic steretype but I see it as a sort of naive respect.
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Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 11:18:39 PM
Oh yeah and they have a respect for the Jewish people.  Very hard to find a Chinese anti-Semite.  They all wish to learn the secrets of the Jewish businessman.  Some see it as an anti-Semitic steretype but I see it as a sort of naive respect.
They're smart.

It's like when the Japanese first industrialised and they wanted a navy.

They copied the Royal Navy in exact detail even down to uniforms, ranks, tactics.....even the IJN officer academy was an exact replica of Sultern in the UK with bricks imported from Britain.

If you're smart, you copy the best.
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Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 16, 2007, 11:19:30 PM
I remember my dad taking me to the Keith when I was little.  The lobby was really unbelievable.  Marble stairs going to the 2nd level and chandeliers.  And the ceiling was hand painted.  Was a very beautiful theater and as I said a landmark.  Now its closed down has been for almost 25 years and nothing has taken its place its just now an eye sore all boarded up.
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Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 16, 2007, 11:20:20 PM
When you mix human beings with barbarians you end up with unfortunate results.  This is a reason why human beings and savages are to be seperated.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 11:21:33 PM
I only used the Chinese as an example.  I could have chosen any other group.  The point I was trying to make is that the more people interact with various groups of people, the less likely they are to be prejudice against those specific groups of people.  The lone exception to this are Blacks.

Looking at this study from my present vantage point, the part that I would question are moslems.  Think of all those people, such as Ali Hirsch and Nonie Darwish, who write about their experiences around moslems.  It seems that the more one is around the islamfascists, the more one realizes just how barbarically savage they truly are.
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Post by: Ehud on September 16, 2007, 11:42:14 PM
I only used the Chinese as an example.  I could have chosen any other group.  The point I was trying to make is that the more people interact with various groups of people, the less likely they are to be prejudice against those specific groups of people.  The lone exception to this are Blacks.

Looking at this study from my present vantage point, the part that I would question are moslems.  Think of all those people, such as Ali Hirsch and Nonie Darwish, who write about their experiences around moslems.  It seems that the more one is around the islamfascists, the more one realizes just how barbarically savage they truly are.

I know. I understood your point, I just decided to talk about Chinese people.   :P
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 11:58:01 PM
Speaking of Chinese people, did you know that some people claim that Confucius himself was Jewish?  They say that nobody could be that wise and not be Jewish.  :D
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Post by: Ehud on September 17, 2007, 12:01:18 AM
Speaking of Chinese people, did you know that some people claim that Confucius himself was Jewish?  They say that nobody could be that wise and not be Jewish.  :D

Hehe, well that's very flattering, but sort of silly.  There were always very wise Chinese.  It's not entirely impossible that he was Jewish though.  There has been a Jewish community in China going really far back.  I don't remember the particulars but I know that a small group of Jews migrated to China a LONG time ago.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 12:13:39 AM
Yes, I heard about that, too.  Apparently, there are literally millions of Chinese Jews that did NOT come over there from Europe during WW2, as my father did.

I also heard that Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle were taught by Jewish sages.  From what I have heard about the very brutal nature of Greek society, as compared to the relatively enlightened positions of these three philosophers, I bet that such rumors are true.  For Marcus Aurelius, who was one of the very few truly civilized Roman rulers, this was definitely true: he was taught by the greatest Talmudic sage to have ever lived, Rabbi Akiva.
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Post by: Ehud on September 17, 2007, 12:17:19 AM
Yes, I heard about that, too.  Apparently, there are literally millions of Chinese Jews that did NOT come over there from Europe during WW2, as my father did.

I also heard that Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle were taught by Jewish sages.  From what I have heard about the very brutal nature of Greek society, as compared to the relatively enlightened positions of these three philosophers, I bet that such rumors are true.  For Marcus Aurelius, who was one of the very few truly civilized Roman rulers, this was definitely true: he was taught by the greatest Talmudic sage to have ever lived, Rabbi Akiva.

Very funny.

Yeah, I didn't realize Confucius was from that long ago.  Jews supposedly came to China around the 8th century.

http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/Jews.html
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Post by: Alexander on September 17, 2007, 02:51:39 AM
Wow, the RKO Keith's. The last movie I saw there was led Zepplin's The Song Remains the Same. I really feel old now.
That was a great theater. I used to go there quite a lot in the late 70's and early 80's. I remember seeing the Amityville Horror there in 1979. Very spooky atmosphere, especially for a 10 year old.
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Post by: Alexander on September 17, 2007, 03:05:19 AM
Natalie Portman, yes, that is her name.  Very pretty Israeli-born actress, although as I said, she never looked sexier than when I heard her speak Hebrew, which she does flawlessly.
She is certainly very attractive. I know her mainly from her work in the Star Wars movies. I was surprised to find out that she spoke Hebrew. Very impressive. I thought she was just another typical young ditzy American actress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KQzvIdyI70
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 11:18:11 AM
Yes, that Natalie Portman youTube video of her speaking flawless Hebrew is a good example of how she really is at her sexiest when she speaks Hebrew.

The Ten Commandments is my favorite movie of all time, but I am also well aware of its many flaws.  The most glaring of these faults is probably just the one mentioned above, the love triangle between Moses, Nefretiri, and Pharoah.  In my many decades of Torah study, not once did I ever come across such an absurd idea.  It was a total Hollywood fabrication.

I suppose it is a trade-off.  These days, when Hollywood makes historical movies, they try to depict things as accurately as possible.  Unfortunately, their values are  totally corrupt.   Back in the day of the Ten Commandments movie, they were clearly not conscientious about depicting history as accurately as they can.  On the other hand, Hollywood in those days did have their values intact, and in fact Cecile B DeMille himself lived as a devout Christian.  I say lived, because the truth is, he was a Jew.
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Post by: Vito on September 17, 2007, 12:02:28 PM
The obvious movie to see that does honor vigilante justice is Death Wish (1974, the first one) starring the late great Jewish actor, Charles Bronson.  It is one of the most influential movies I ever saw, as it helped me become a Republican.

Charles Bronson was Jewish? This is what is says about Wikipedia:

He was one of 15 children born to a Lithuanian immigrant father of Lipka Tatar ancestry, and a Lithuanian-American mother. His lithuanian birth name is Karolis Bučinskis

Lipka Tatar is tribe of Muslim ancestry. It says nothing about him being Jewish..
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 12:11:43 PM
I heard a long time ago that Charles Bronson was in fact Jewish.  Wikipedia is not always such a good source for information, as anybody can write anything on there.

I will admit that there was nothing in Charles Bronson's looks or behavior that was Jewish, so I am open to the possibility that maybe what I had heard is wrong, and that he really was not a Jew after all.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: newman on September 17, 2007, 12:14:18 PM
I thought Bronson was a polak originally.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 12:22:33 PM
By the way, the Wikipedia article on Charles Bronson says that his mother was Lithuanian.  But that does not mean she was not Jewish as well!  Some of the greatest Torah scholars came from there.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: Vito on September 17, 2007, 02:04:54 PM
By the way, the Wikipedia article on Charles Bronson says that his mother was Lithuanian.  But that does not mean she was not Jewish as well!  Some of the greatest Torah scholars came from there.

I know, and I didn't doubt it when I found out he was Lithuanian, but Wikipedia usually says if a person comes from Jewish ancestry or not.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: kellymaureen on September 17, 2007, 03:07:00 PM
Rules of Engagement

They would NEVER make a movie like this now...lol...it drew all sorts of ire in 2000 when it was released, now it wouldnt ever make it to release. Here is some of the criticism:

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The film drew widespread criticism for its portrayal of Arab characters. The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee described it as "probably the most racist film ever made against Arabs by Hollywood".[1] Paul Clinton of the Boston Globe wrote "at its worst, it's blatantly racist, using Arabs as cartoon-cutout bad guys".

Film Critic Mark Freeman writes:

"The Yemeni people are painted in the broadest, most racist terms imaginable. Friedkin lets his camera linger over their angry faces, exaggerating their difference: the robes, the veils, the beards, the bizarre, harsh language, and their keen desire for violence. The omission of key scenes early on only serves to emphasize the horrendous racism of this film when the 'truth' is revealed later. The message of Rules of Engagement is the necessity to kill all those who actively oppose the United States and that the murder of women and children is acceptable in such cases

And we all know that by "Yemeni" and "arab" they mean muslim ;D
Ha ha thats such a stretch isnt it.....angry muslim faces in a crowd...veils...robes...harsh language (death to America, Israel etc)..keen sense for violence....must have been difficult for the director to get people to believe that muslims would ever act that way :laugh:
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: cjd on September 17, 2007, 08:54:58 PM
I remember my dad taking me to the Keith when I was little.  The lobby was really unbelievable.  Marble stairs going to the 2nd level and chandeliers.  And the ceiling was hand painted.  Was a very beautiful theater and as I said a landmark.  Now its closed down has been for almost 25 years and nothing has taken its place its just now an eye sore all boarded up.
Your memory of the RKO is good MasterWolf. I see the building every day from a distance as drive on the Whitestone Expressway. I guess one day it just won't be there anymore. Before they had made the theater into a duplex making the main level one theater and the balcony level into another the place looked like you were sitting in the middle of a street from the middle ages. The ceiling was painted like the night sky and it actually had small lights that seemed to be stars. Both sides of the theater look like the fronts of houses with balconies. Where the screen was they had a huge stage and I really don't recall but it may have had an organ loft to one side also. I have tried to find pictures of the interior but none seem to exist. Walking up the grand steps to the balcony made you feel really great it was thats special.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 08:58:09 PM
Welcome back, Kelly Maureen!  I have not seen you on here for some time now.  But you sure come back with a splash: you have convinced me to see that movie, Rules of Engagement.  I wonder if it was made before or after 9/11?  Either way, it sounds like my kind of movie, because it apparently tells the truth.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: kellymaureen on September 17, 2007, 09:03:26 PM
It was made in 2000, before the attacks and PC running amuck:P
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: newman on September 17, 2007, 09:09:25 PM
Rules of Engagement

They would NEVER make a movie like this now...lol...it drew all sorts of ire in 2000 when it was released, now it wouldnt ever make it to release. Here is some of the criticism:

The film drew widespread criticism for its portrayal of Arab characters. The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee described it as "probably the most racist film ever made against Arabs by Hollywood".[1] Paul Clinton of the Boston Globe wrote "at its worst, it's blatantly racist, using Arabs as cartoon-cutout bad guys".

Film Critic Mark Freeman writes:

"The Yemeni people are painted in the broadest, most racist terms imaginable. Friedkin lets his camera linger over their angry faces, exaggerating their difference: the robes, the veils, the beards, the bizarre, harsh language, and their keen desire for violence. The omission of key scenes early on only serves to emphasize the horrendous racism of this film when the 'truth' is revealed later. The message of Rules of Engagement is the necessity to kill all those who actively oppose the United States and that the murder of women and children is acceptable in such cases


Oh come now,

How dare they portray arab-muslims as phsycotic, ranting, hate-filled nut-jobs?

Whats next?

Next they'll portray Ted Bundy as a raving woman-hating loonie or Ed Gein as a gool!

(sarcasm off)
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 09:15:34 PM
Thank you, Kelly Maureen!  ;)
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: kellymaureen on September 17, 2007, 09:22:51 PM
Youre welcome, JTB, did I give you the new site I found for movies??  It might be on there, not sure, I just watched a movie that hasnt even come out in theaters yet:P if I havent given you the site let me know and ill send it to you :)
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 09:43:35 PM
a woman of kelly maureen's beauty is a joy forever  :-*
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: takebackourtemple on September 17, 2007, 11:40:38 PM
a woman of kelly maureen's beauty is a joy forever  :-*

Agreed. Her support for JTF shows that she is also beautiful to the core. We just need some Jewish women like her to come onto this forum. I thought I saw one or two about a month ago, but don't remember for sure.

Kelly,

   I'm assuming by your name that you are one of the many righteous gentiles. My apologies if this assumption is incorrect.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: newman on September 17, 2007, 11:50:52 PM


Kelly,

   I'm assuming by your name that you are one of the many righteous gentiles. My apologies if this assumption is incorrect.

I dunno.

She's too perfect to be a goy. :)
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 11:56:16 PM
Where are all the Jewish women at?  :(
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: kellymaureen on September 17, 2007, 11:57:38 PM
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I'm assuming by your name that you are one of the many righteous gentiles

I like to think I am :)

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She's too perfect to be a goy
Ha ha you know I am far from perfect but thanks a mil ;D
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: Vito on September 18, 2007, 11:08:46 AM
Rules of Engagement

They would NEVER make a movie like this now...lol...it drew all sorts of ire in 2000 when it was released, now it wouldnt ever make it to release. Here is some of the criticism:

Quote
The film drew widespread criticism for its portrayal of Arab characters. The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee described it as "probably the most racist film ever made against Arabs by Hollywood".[1] Paul Clinton of the Boston Globe wrote "at its worst, it's blatantly racist, using Arabs as cartoon-cutout bad guys".

Film Critic Mark Freeman writes:

"The Yemeni people are painted in the broadest, most racist terms imaginable. Friedkin lets his camera linger over their angry faces, exaggerating their difference: the robes, the veils, the beards, the bizarre, harsh language, and their keen desire for violence. The omission of key scenes early on only serves to emphasize the horrendous racism of this film when the 'truth' is revealed later. The message of Rules of Engagement is the necessity to kill all those who actively oppose the United States and that the murder of women and children is acceptable in such cases

And we all know that by "Yemeni" and "arab" they mean muslim ;D
Ha ha thats such a stretch isnt it.....angry muslim faces in a crowd...veils...robes...harsh language (death to America, Israel etc)..keen sense for violence....must have been difficult for the director to get people to believe that muslims would ever act that way :laugh:


I watched the movie last night to see what all the hype was about... it portrayed the Muslims quite well, and I love the clip of the little girl shooting :D My friend and I were cheering when the soldiers opened fire hehe. One BIG problem with the movie.... the "commander" was that melangiana Sam-the-mule EL Jackson. Too many melangianas in that movie, it was getting annoying..
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 18, 2007, 01:20:33 PM
They built a Multiplex off the Whitestone Expressway and this is a hub of jungle coming from across the highway.  As I said the "movie going expirience" is really not the same.  It lost its spunk.  You have animals going to the movies.   Fresh Meadows has 2 theaters close to each other at one time both theaters were rather nice.   You go for a mattinee and sneak from one to the other picture with your buddies.. (ok im guilty of doing that sneaking from one to the other but it was summer saturdays) and face in a big box of popcorn and soda and it was nice.   People now scream, floors sticky from animals throwing soda on the floor.  Last time I ever was in a movie theater maybe 20 years ago some woman brought her 3 year old or something and the child didnt stop running up and down the aisle through out the movie.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: Vito on September 18, 2007, 01:26:02 PM
They built a Multiplex off the Whitestone Expressway and this is a hub of jungle coming from across the highway.  As I said the "movie going expirience" is really not the same.  It lost its spunk.  You have animals going to the movies.   Fresh Meadows has 2 theaters close to each other at one time both theaters were rather nice.   You go for a mattinee and sneak from one to the other picture with your buddies.. (ok im guilty of doing that sneaking from one to the other but it was summer saturdays) and face in a big box of popcorn and soda and it was nice.   People now scream, floors sticky from animals throwing soda on the floor.  Last time I ever was in a movie theater maybe 20 years ago some woman brought her 3 year old or something and the child didnt stop running up and down the aisle through out the movie.

Yep, all the animals come over from College Point. I go to the one in Bay Terrace, it's not as big as Multiplex but usually humans are there...
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 18, 2007, 01:31:32 PM
I been there and to the one out in Douglaston they are nice.  But also the tickets have gone so high for a movie.   And look how Cable just blew up with all stations and at the comfort of home without screaming jackyls around.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: newman on September 18, 2007, 01:36:21 PM
They built a Multiplex off the Whitestone Expressway and this is a hub of jungle coming from across the highway.  As I said the "movie going expirience" is really not the same.  It lost its spunk.  You have animals going to the movies.   Fresh Meadows has 2 theaters close to each other at one time both theaters were rather nice.   You go for a mattinee and sneak from one to the other picture with your buddies.. (ok im guilty of doing that sneaking from one to the other but it was summer saturdays) and face in a big box of popcorn and soda and it was nice.   People now scream, floors sticky from animals throwing soda on the floor.  Last time I ever was in a movie theater maybe 20 years ago some woman brought her 3 year old or something and the child didnt stop running up and down the aisle through out the movie.

Yep, all the animals come over from College Point. I go to the one in Bay Terrace, it's not as big as Multiplex but usually humans are there...
There's no great mystery to this.

A home, neighbourhood, city or country is what it is for no other reason than because of the people in it.

Japan is a civilised place because of the Japanese. Africa is a turd world stink hole because of the africans.

When you have african primates in a city, you're going to get an african primate environment.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: Vito on September 18, 2007, 01:57:49 PM
They built a Multiplex off the Whitestone Expressway and this is a hub of jungle coming from across the highway.  As I said the "movie going expirience" is really not the same.  It lost its spunk.  You have animals going to the movies.   Fresh Meadows has 2 theaters close to each other at one time both theaters were rather nice.   You go for a mattinee and sneak from one to the other picture with your buddies.. (ok im guilty of doing that sneaking from one to the other but it was summer saturdays) and face in a big box of popcorn and soda and it was nice.   People now scream, floors sticky from animals throwing soda on the floor.  Last time I ever was in a movie theater maybe 20 years ago some woman brought her 3 year old or something and the child didnt stop running up and down the aisle through out the movie.

Yep, all the animals come over from College Point. I go to the one in Bay Terrace, it's not as big as Multiplex but usually humans are there...
There's no great mystery to this.

A home, neighbourhood, city or country is what it is for no other reason than because of the people in it.

Japan is a civilised place because of the Japanese. Africa is a turd world stink hole because of the africans.

When you have african primates in a city, you're going to get an african primate environment.


Ain't that the truth. College Point used to be a totally Irish neighborhood, now it's all melangianas and belly rubbers.. the Irish that are left are white trash/wiggers.
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
Post by: newman on September 18, 2007, 02:05:26 PM
They built a Multiplex off the Whitestone Expressway and this is a hub of jungle coming from across the highway.  As I said the "movie going expirience" is really not the same.  It lost its spunk.  You have animals going to the movies.   Fresh Meadows has 2 theaters close to each other at one time both theaters were rather nice.   You go for a mattinee and sneak from one to the other picture with your buddies.. (ok im guilty of doing that sneaking from one to the other but it was summer saturdays) and face in a big box of popcorn and soda and it was nice.   People now scream, floors sticky from animals throwing soda on the floor.  Last time I ever was in a movie theater maybe 20 years ago some woman brought her 3 year old or something and the child didnt stop running up and down the aisle through out the movie.

Yep, all the animals come over from College Point. I go to the one in Bay Terrace, it's not as big as Multiplex but usually humans are there...
There's no great mystery to this.

A home, neighbourhood, city or country is what it is for no other reason than because of the people in it.

Japan is a civilised place because of the Japanese. Africa is a turd world stink hole because of the africans.

When you have african primates in a city, you're going to get an african primate environment.


Ain't that the truth. College Point used to be a totally Irish neighborhood, now it's all melangianas and belly rubbers.. the Irish that are left are white trash/wiggers.

All this must be an absolute crying shame to those who remember the old NYC.

How the hell did we ever come to this? How did we just surrender our culture to savages? Why do New Yorkers vote liberal all the time and do this to themselves?
Title: Re: Decent Hollywood Movies!
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They built a Multiplex off the Whitestone Expressway and this is a hub of jungle coming from across the highway.  As I said the "movie going expirience" is really not the same.  It lost its spunk.  You have animals going to the movies.   Fresh Meadows has 2 theaters close to each other at one time both theaters were rather nice.   You go for a mattinee and sneak from one to the other picture with your buddies.. (ok im guilty of doing that sneaking from one to the other but it was summer saturdays) and face in a big box of popcorn and soda and it was nice.   People now scream, floors sticky from animals throwing soda on the floor.  Last time I ever was in a movie theater maybe 20 years ago some woman brought her 3 year old or something and the child didnt stop running up and down the aisle through out the movie.

Yep, all the animals come over from College Point. I go to the one in Bay Terrace, it's not as big as Multiplex but usually humans are there...
There's no great mystery to this.

A home, neighbourhood, city or country is what it is for no other reason than because of the people in it.

Japan is a civilised place because of the Japanese. Africa is a turd world stink hole because of the africans.

When you have african primates in a city, you're going to get an african primate environment.


Ain't that the truth. College Point used to be a totally Irish neighborhood, now it's all melangianas and belly rubbers.. the Irish that are left are white trash/wiggers.

All this must be an absolute crying shame to those who remember the old NYC.

How the hell did we ever come to this? How did we just surrender our culture to savages? Why do New Yorkers vote liberal all the time and do this to themselves?
Hah!  We got what we deserved.  Thirty+ years ago, when a neighborhood started to deteriorate, everyone moved out.  The solution they chose was to move to Long Island or Westchester instead of standing firm, taking their neighborhood back and putting a stop to the insanity.  Now, as neighborhoods in Long Island and Westchester begin to go through the same transformation, the cycle will start again.