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Title: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 18, 2007, 06:51:02 PM
Someone was tasered at the event. 
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 18, 2007, 07:22:06 PM
I was wondering if someone posted something about that.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 18, 2007, 10:49:07 PM
I saw the youtube video of it and i was pretty confused of what was goign on, but someone explained it to me.

In my opinion, even though I hate Kerry with the passion, believe that this person who got tasered was heckeling Kerry inappropriately. It's not that he asked a simple question...he answered his own question...thereby wasn't addressing Kerry, but preventing Kerry from his own free speech.  Heckeling is not a good form of free speech since it disrupts someone else's. The exception to the rule is if the speech being heckled is a true hate speech, which Kerry wasn't doing.

Nevertheless, the appropriate thing to do with this heckler was to escort him out. THe tasering was over the top.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Trumpeldor on September 18, 2007, 10:52:39 PM
If anyone should have been tasered at that event, it should have been Kerry himself. What a disgrace!
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 19, 2007, 01:20:54 AM
DEATH TO FASCIST JACK-BOOTED NAZI THUGS!

Sickening!

Fat Ugly Mutant Bull-Dyke Whores, 7 ft tall rubberneck [censored], [censored], Stupid Dumb Whitey Flunkeys.

THIS IS NAZISM...PURE AND SIMPLE...COMING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU...SOON!

DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS.

STOCKPILE WEAPONS FOR YOUR OWN SURVIVAL.

LEAVE FOR ERETZ YISRAEL IF POSSIBLE.

Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: White Israelite on September 19, 2007, 01:06:16 PM
The kids freedom of speech was violated. If the cops grabbed me like that, I would resist as well. On the other hand, if they approached me and asked me to leave rather than grabbing me, then that is understandable.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 19, 2007, 11:16:30 PM
Why the kid needed and deserved to be tasered:

1.) The forum was at its end. This aggorant nutcase saved his questions for the end of the forum just so he could start trouble. He's a nutcase liberal, so he's going to do nutcase things.

2.) He resisted arrest. He clearly did not go quietly. I watched this first on MSNBC. Chris Matthews played this video and the audio was so loud, it seemed like the kid was being tortured. Matthews and company commented on the barbaricness of the security guards. When the video was aired on the O'Reilly Factor the audio was set to a normal level, and it was pretty apparent this kid was milking it. O'Reilly even called this kid "a wuss."

3.) This kid is notorious for creating trouble on campus. He has a reputation for being a world-class pain in the tush, and has been suspended before for his abnormal behavior.

4.) In Conclusion, the tasing wasn't so bad. They have him one little zap and that was that. They knew who this kid was, so they knew to act accordingly. This kid had it coming.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: newman on September 19, 2007, 11:21:01 PM
DEATH TO FASCIST JACK-BOOTED NAZI THUGS!

Sickening!

Fat Ugly Mutant Bull-Dyke Whores, 7 ft tall rubberneck [censored], Hispanics, Stupid Dumb Whitey Flunkeys.

THIS IS NAZISM...PURE AND SIMPLE...COMING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU...SOON!

DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS.

STOCKPILE WEAPONS FOR YOUR OWN SURVIVAL.

LEAVE FOR ERETZ YISRAEL IF POSSIBLE.



Massuh aint kidding.

These dihmmicrats are the most un-democratic, Jew-hating, gun-grabbing nazis since the turd riech. The turd riech were just more HONEST in their stated intentions.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 19, 2007, 11:58:14 PM
It was a self hating jerk who supported Kerry when he was running for the Presidency and asked Kerry why did he just announced that he lost so fast to Bush.  (Another Gore attempt) perhaps.  This guy was then starting to ask more questions and there was only a 1 minute per person to ask Kerry anything ... I know if i was there Id ask Kerry "so how does it feel to earn your money your old fashion way? by marrying into ugly women?" Anyways back to this guy he wouldnt leave the mic and campus police gotten closer told him to stop he didnt stop and then they tried to wrestle him to the ground and tasser.  He spent the night in jail.   First off he is a jerk anyways that he supported Kerry the lowest animal senator who would of bankrupt us all if he became president.  I am not a 100 percent major fan of Bush but compared to Kerry?  Bush is truely the lesser of the 2 evils.  Kerry is just pure evil.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: White Israelite on September 20, 2007, 12:02:31 AM
Why the kid needed and deserved to be tasered:

1.) The forum was at its end. This aggorant nutcase saved his questions for the end of the forum just so he could start trouble. He's a nutcase liberal, so he's going to do nutcase things.

2.) He resisted arrest. He clearly did not go quietly. I watched this first on MSNBC. Chris Matthews played this video and the audio was so loud, it seemed like the kid was being tortured. Matthews and company commented on the barbaricness of the security guards. When the video was aired on the O'Reilly Factor the audio was set to a normal level, and it was pretty apparent this kid was milking it. O'Reilly even called this kid "a wuss."

3.) This kid is notorious for creating trouble on campus. He has a reputation for being a world-class pain in the tush, and has been suspended before for his abnormal behavior.

4.) In Conclusion, the tasing wasn't so bad. They have him one little zap and that was that. They knew who this kid was, so they knew to act accordingly. This kid had it coming.

What? Kerry is a liberal, that doesn't even make sense how you could call the kid a liberal. If the kid was a liberal, then why did Kerry have him escorted?
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 20, 2007, 12:04:20 AM
Why the kid needed and deserved to be tasered:

1.) The forum was at its end. This aggorant nutcase saved his questions for the end of the forum just so he could start trouble. He's a nutcase liberal, so he's going to do nutcase things.

2.) He resisted arrest. He clearly did not go quietly. I watched this first on MSNBC. Chris Matthews played this video and the audio was so loud, it seemed like the kid was being tortured. Matthews and company commented on the barbaricness of the security guards. When the video was aired on the O'Reilly Factor the audio was set to a normal level, and it was pretty apparent this kid was milking it. O'Reilly even called this kid "a wuss."

3.) This kid is notorious for creating trouble on campus. He has a reputation for being a world-class pain in the tush, and has been suspended before for his abnormal behavior.

4.) In Conclusion, the tasing wasn't so bad. They have him one little zap and that was that. They knew who this kid was, so they knew to act accordingly. This kid had it coming.

What? Kerry is a liberal, that doesn't even make sense how you could call the kid a liberal. If the kid was a liberal, then why did Kerry have him escorted?

He supported Kerry when Kerry ran for president... YOU BETCHA that he is a liberal as well.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 20, 2007, 12:58:38 AM
Velvill, you are insane...seriously mentally ill and sick.

And the same goes for any of you here who agree with that kid being tasered by fascist mulatto pig bastards for no damn good reason other than nazi sadism and weak brains.

All the things you've written about that student are 100% damnable lies.

He is an honor student in journalism.

He is also a Jew.

You sickos who approve of such Nazi tactics against American citizens deserve every sickness this country has to offer...YOU are the very reason this country is sick and doomed.

I hope you liked watching Cossack Kikes uproot a peaceful Jewish community of Gaza also...it's right up your alley, as well as the others who who enjoy sadism and brutality.  Why don't you go get some of the videos of the Nazi Zionist Pigs beating our women and children with clubs and having their WHITE HORSES stomp them in the dirt.  After all...they resisted arrest...refused police orders...questioned their government.  And that, apparently is how you want illegal authority to treat anyone who dissents.

I am not taking back one single word of this post, and I am not apologizing to anyone for my telling you stupid morons off...if you don't like it then have me banned.  I would rather be banned than attempt to make intelligent posts and deal in a Kahanist way with subhuman filth on this forum.

Very seriously,
MassuhDGoodName
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Mishmaat on September 20, 2007, 01:31:59 AM
Velvill, you are insane...seriously mentally ill and sick.

And the same goes for any of you here who agree with that kid being tasered by fascist mulatto pig bastards for no damn good reason other than nazi sadism and weak brains.

All the things you've written about that student are 100% damnable lies.

He is an honor student in journalism.

He is also a Jew.

You sickos who approve of such Nazi tactics against American citizens deserve every sickness this country has to offer...YOU are the very reason this country is sick and doomed.

I hope you liked watching Cossack Kikes uproot a peaceful Jewish community of Gaza also...it's right up your alley, as well as the others who who enjoy sadism and brutality.  Why don't you go get some of the videos of the Nazi Zionist Pigs beating our women and children with clubs and having their WHITE HORSES stomp them in the dirt.  After all...they resisted arrest...refused police orders...questioned their government.  And that, apparently is how you want illegal authority to treat anyone who dissents.

I am not taking back one single word of this post, and I am not apologizing to anyone for my telling you stupid morons off...if you don't like it then have me banned.  I would rather be banned than attempt to make intelligent posts and deal in a Kahanist way with subhuman filth on this forum.

Very seriously,
MassuhDGoodName

I agree. It's an unfortunate tragedy. And the people who try to justify what was done to this young man need to have their head checked.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 20, 2007, 01:33:58 AM
Re:  "...Well, I heard on the radio todaythat..."

Well, Mills, that is what happens when what you "hear on radio" is 99.99% all lies, written and scripted intentionally to brainwash you into being a good little Bush-bot march-in-step Fascist without a mind of your own.

Only 60 years ago the Germans had radios also, and they "knew" that "the Satanic Jew" was in control of Germany and the world and had to be exterminated"....after all, they each heard it on their radio every day, and it was in their newspapers too!

Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and various other phony liars tell America that Israel "must live as Two democratic states for two Peoples;...sharing the land in peace"...they every day tell America that "Israel OCCUPIES the PLO NAZI HAMAS" land and must negotiate on the "Roadmap for Peace".  Do you get your Kahanist information from what you heard on the radio also?

If so,  I question why you are here on this forum among us.

Do you not understand FASCISM, NAZISM, COMMUNISM, JEW-HATRED when you see it for yourself?

If not, you had better do some very heavy serious reading in geo-politics of the 20th Century, or you may soon one day awaken in one of Cheney's Concentration Camps being built with money alotted by our very own Stalinist "Homeland Security Dept."

Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: newman on September 20, 2007, 01:42:39 AM
Yes MassuhDGoodName I suppose you are correct about this. The show I listened was "The Frosty, Heidi and Frank Show" and they are notorious for critizing EVRYONE with no mercy. But I assume even that is staged. When I heard the tape for myself, I did find it odd, like he was acting and heard that comment, but I could be mistaking.
 


Our two brainiest posters (Mills & Massuh) going at it would be something to see but I'm glad they're not.  8)
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 02:43:31 AM
Why the kid needed and deserved to be tasered:

1.) The forum was at its end. This aggorant nutcase saved his questions for the end of the forum just so he could start trouble. He's a nutcase liberal, so he's going to do nutcase things.

2.) He resisted arrest. He clearly did not go quietly. I watched this first on MSNBC. Chris Matthews played this video and the audio was so loud, it seemed like the kid was being tortured. Matthews and company commented on the barbaricness of the security guards. When the video was aired on the O'Reilly Factor the audio was set to a normal level, and it was pretty apparent this kid was milking it. O'Reilly even called this kid "a wuss."

3.) This kid is notorious for creating trouble on campus. He has a reputation for being a world-class pain in the tush, and has been suspended before for his abnormal behavior.

4.) In Conclusion, the tasing wasn't so bad. They have him one little zap and that was that. They knew who this kid was, so they knew to act accordingly. This kid had it coming.

What? Kerry is a liberal, that doesn't even make sense how you could call the kid a liberal. If the kid was a liberal, then why did Kerry have him escorted?
Kerry didn't have him escorted. The kid was making a ruckus. He wouldn't calm down. The security guards started to remove him from the auditorium and he started flailing violently, so they had no choice but to take action.

Let me ask you this: Say you were attending a Broadway play. At the end of the show, you get up and start causing a commotion. Yelling at the actors and getting all nutty. You've lost control and aren't rational. What do you expect security to do, allow you to continue to disturb people with your outburst or do something about?

Like I said, if you read about this kid, you'll learn that he has a history of trouble-making.

Calling this Nazism is false. This is about maintaining decency in society.

You cannot let people do whatever they want.

And this kid wasn't a Kerry-supporter. He started to criticize him. He started hurling a barrage of questions at Kerry. So many, that there was no way Kerry could've possibly answered them all. Remember, the forum had just ended, too. He reminded me of that Arab Nazi who attends all of Bush's addresses and does the same thing.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 02:49:28 AM
Velvill, you are insane...seriously mentally ill and sick.

And the same goes for any of you here who agree with that kid being tasered by fascist mulatto pig bastards for no damn good reason other than nazi sadism and weak brains.

All the things you've written about that student are 100% damnable lies.

He is an honor student in journalism.

He is also a Jew.

You sickos who approve of such Nazi tactics against American citizens deserve every sickness this country has to offer...YOU are the very reason this country is sick and doomed.

I hope you liked watching Cossack Kikes uproot a peaceful Jewish community of Gaza also...it's right up your alley, as well as the others who who enjoy sadism and brutality.  Why don't you go get some of the videos of the Nazi Zionist Pigs beating our women and children with clubs and having their WHITE HORSES stomp them in the dirt.  After all...they resisted arrest...refused police orders...questioned their government.  And that, apparently is how you want illegal authority to treat anyone who dissents.

I am not taking back one single word of this post, and I am not apologizing to anyone for my telling you stupid morons off...if you don't like it then have me banned.  I would rather be banned than attempt to make intelligent posts and deal in a Kahanist way with subhuman filth on this forum.

Very seriously,
MassuhDGoodName
A good jew doesn't cause trouble all over his campus like a low-class black.

Didn't you see how he stood on the corner of his college's campus with sandwich boards screaming out spoilers for the newest Harry Potter book like a damn fool in the videos on TV?

This kid if infamous of being a cheeky little bastard. He loves to ruffle people's feathers and has been suspended before this incident even occured.

I'm sick? No, I'm sorry if I don't support a moronic kid who thinks he can do whatever he wants and get away with it.

We're living in a society among people. This kid has no morals, no remorse.

And for an honor student, he is pretty retarded.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 02:51:42 AM
Re:  "...Well, I heard on the radio todaythat..."

Well, Mills, that is what happens when what you "hear on radio" is 99.99% all lies, written and scripted intentionally to brainwash you into being a good little Bush-bot march-in-step Fascist without a mind of your own.

Only 60 years ago the Germans had radios also, and they "knew" that "the Satanic Jew" was in control of Germany and the world and had to be exterminated"....after all, they each heard it on their radio every day, and it was in their newspapers too!

Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and various other phony liars tell America that Israel "must live as Two democratic states for two Peoples;...sharing the land in peace"...they every day tell America that "Israel OCCUPIES the PLO NAZI HAMAS" land and must negotiate on the "Roadmap for Peace".  Do you get your Kahanist information from what you heard on the radio also?

If so,  I question why you are here on this forum among us.

Do you not understand FASCISM, NAZISM, COMMUNISM, JEW-HATRED when you see it for yourself?

If not, you had better do some very heavy serious reading in geo-politics of the 20th Century, or you may soon one day awaken in one of Cheney's Concentration Camps being built with money alotted by our very own Stalinist "Homeland Security Dept."


Calm down, we're allowed to disagree with each other's views.

Comparing this to Nazism is insane. And anyone who compares a moronic kid making a ruckus and getting arrested for it to the extermination of 15 million Jews is insane.

Are you saying you condone this young man losing sight of rationality and causing a comotion that wouldn't of stopped? Something had to be done to shut this nutcase up. This kid is a liberal, anti-establishment, anti-American traitor, who spends all his time writing complete crap on his website.

Stupid people are honor students and Jews, too.

I never heard something so twisted. "He's a Jew." Well, I'm a Jew, too. So I guess that makes it OK to do whatever I want.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 03:20:27 AM
Why the kid needed and deserved to be tasered:

1.) The forum was at its end. This aggorant nutcase saved his questions for the end of the forum just so he could start trouble. He's a nutcase liberal, so he's going to do nutcase things.

2.) He resisted arrest. He clearly did not go quietly. I watched this first on MSNBC. Chris Matthews played this video and the audio was so loud, it seemed like the kid was being tortured. Matthews and company commented on the barbaricness of the security guards. When the video was aired on the O'Reilly Factor the audio was set to a normal level, and it was pretty apparent this kid was milking it. O'Reilly even called this kid "a wuss."

3.) This kid is notorious for creating trouble on campus. He has a reputation for being a world-class pain in the tush, and has been suspended before for his abnormal behavior.

4.) In Conclusion, the tasing wasn't so bad. They have him one little zap and that was that. They knew who this kid was, so they knew to act accordingly. This kid had it coming.

What? Kerry is a liberal, that doesn't even make sense how you could call the kid a liberal. If the kid was a liberal, then why did Kerry have him escorted?

He supported Kerry when Kerry ran for president... YOU BETCHA that he is a liberal as well.
Thank you.

For some reason a few members are trying to come up with all the proof they can that this kid was a good person, who didn't deserve what he got, and they're failing miserably. That's because this kid was a horrible, self-hating Jew, who's anti-establishment and wants to see the country brough to its knees.

The kid's a journalist? He doesn't do any real reporting or research. He spends his days harassing his fellow students by pulling off pointless, unfunny jokes and pranks to prove his obnoxiousness.

That's why the liberal traitors at MSNBC are backing this punk. This kind of person is right up their alley. He's an uninformed, arrogant little moron who wants to see this country come crashing down into choas.

At least the traitors at Fox News know he's a trouble-making punk, who wanted this to happen to him.

This kid is going to make out like a bandit by suing the college! It was a scheme, trust me. College morons do this all the time.
Title: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Dexter on September 20, 2007, 05:01:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IATPoHdpak0

What the...?
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 20, 2007, 05:58:50 PM
Well, I heard on the radio today that the student was faking it all, he was seen smiling afterwards and during the ordeal asked the person with the camera "Are you getting all this?"
They also said he was the guy standing in a street with a sign telling people the ending to the last Harry Potter book.
I watched it last night on the news and heard a lot of gullible students defendinghim saying that his "freedom of speech" right has been violated... BUT if he's acting like a PSYCHO, and being a jerk, he needed to be restrained. I don't know about the tasing BUT what about his RIGHT to not act like a psycho jerk!


You are correct. 
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 20, 2007, 06:03:28 PM
Velvill, you are insane...seriously mentally ill and sick.

And the same goes for any of you here who agree with that kid being tasered by fascist mulatto pig bastards for no damn good reason other than nazi sadism and weak brains.

All the things you've written about that student are 100% damnable lies.

He is an honor student in journalism.

He is also a Jew.

You sickos who approve of such Nazi tactics against American citizens deserve every sickness this country has to offer...YOU are the very reason this country is sick and doomed.

I hope you liked watching Cossack Kikes uproot a peaceful Jewish community of Gaza also...it's right up your alley, as well as the others who who enjoy sadism and brutality.  Why don't you go get some of the videos of the Nazi Zionist Pigs beating our women and children with clubs and having their WHITE HORSES stomp them in the dirt.  After all...they resisted arrest...refused police orders...questioned their government.  And that, apparently is how you want illegal authority to treat anyone who dissents.

I am not taking back one single word of this post, and I am not apologizing to anyone for my telling you stupid morons off...if you don't like it then have me banned.  I would rather be banned than attempt to make intelligent posts and deal in a Kahanist way with subhuman filth on this forum.

Very seriously,
MassuhDGoodName



And some people think George Soros is just a "philanthropist".  He's also, supposedly, Jewish. 
Regardless of whether someone is Jewish, it shouldn't be any excuse to defend bad behavior. 


Would you defend Marc Rich, who was pardoned by Bill Clinton? 
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 20, 2007, 06:07:34 PM
Re:  "...Well, I heard on the radio todaythat..."

Well, Mills, that is what happens when what you "hear on radio" is 99.99% all lies, written and scripted intentionally to brainwash you into being a good little Bush-bot march-in-step Fascist without a mind of your own.

Only 60 years ago the Germans had radios also, and they "knew" that "the Satanic Jew" was in control of Germany and the world and had to be exterminated"....after all, they each heard it on their radio every day, and it was in their newspapers too!

Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and various other phony liars tell America that Israel "must live as Two democratic states for two Peoples;...sharing the land in peace"...they every day tell America that "Israel OCCUPIES the PLO NAZI HAMAS" land and must negotiate on the "Roadmap for Peace".  Do you get your Kahanist information from what you heard on the radio also?

If so,  I question why you are here on this forum among us.

Do you not understand FASCISM, NAZISM, COMMUNISM, JEW-HATRED when you see it for yourself?

If not, you had better do some very heavy serious reading in geo-politics of the 20th Century, or you may soon one day awaken in one of Cheney's Concentration Camps being built with money alotted by our very own Stalinist "Homeland Security Dept."






So then you support the ACLU and how they're against spying on any mosques?

You think Cheney's going to be listening to you on the phone? 
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on September 20, 2007, 06:40:36 PM
I saw the video, the arrest was totally uncalled for. If they didnt want him to speak they could have just cut his mice and thats it. Also whats noteworthy is that they started arresting him when he asked about the "scull and bones society" that Kerry was in.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 20, 2007, 06:55:40 PM
I saw the video, the arrest was totally uncalled for. If they didnt want him to speak they could have just cut his mice and thats it. Also whats noteworthy is that they started arresting him when he asked about the "scull and bones society" that Kerry was in.


Supposedly Kerry has answered questions in the past about the "Skull and bones society"
?  Do you know what he's said about it?
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on September 20, 2007, 07:12:12 PM
No one really knows.  It went out of control when the police stopped him.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 10:35:04 PM
I saw the video, the arrest was totally uncalled for. If they didnt want him to speak they could have just cut his mice and thats it. Also whats noteworthy is that they started arresting him when he asked about the "scull and bones society" that Kerry was in.
The kid would created even more of a ruckus. He was out of control. We need to take care of liberal nutcases, who make society unpleasant for others.

I'm sure Ann Coulter, a JTF hero, is going to write that the zapping of this moron was justified, just you wait.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: OdKahaneChai on September 20, 2007, 10:46:50 PM
I saw the video, the arrest was totally uncalled for. If they didnt want him to speak they could have just cut his mice and thats it. Also whats noteworthy is that they started arresting him when he asked about the "scull and bones society" that Kerry was in.
The kid would created even more of a ruckus. He was out of control. We need to take care of liberal nutcases, who make society unpleasant for others.

I'm sure Ann Coulter, a JTF hero, is going to write that the zapping of this moron was justified, just you wait.
Ann Coulter is certainly not a JTF hero.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Trumpeldor on September 20, 2007, 10:58:07 PM
The kid would created even more of a ruckus. He was out of control. We need to take care of liberal nutcases, who make society unpleasant for others.

I'm sure Ann Coulter, a JTF hero, is going to write that the zapping of this moron was justified, just you wait.

Are you a conservative or a fascist?

The Soviets certainly took care of 'liberal nutcases' who made society 'unpleasant' for others.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 11:00:52 PM
I saw the video, the arrest was totally uncalled for. If they didnt want him to speak they could have just cut his mice and thats it. Also whats noteworthy is that they started arresting him when he asked about the "scull and bones society" that Kerry was in.
The kid would created even more of a ruckus. He was out of control. We need to take care of liberal nutcases, who make society unpleasant for others.

I'm sure Ann Coulter, a JTF hero, is going to write that the zapping of this moron was justified, just you wait.
Ann Coulter is certainly not a JTF hero.
You haven't read the JTF.org homepage lately. Read "JTF Loves you, Ann Coulter". Coulter is one of the few voices of reason besides JTF. She's a righteous gentile, who sees through the lies and recognizes the anti-American nature of liberals and democrats, and she goes on the Bolshevik news programs to spread her words of reason to much controversy. She is one of the few people who admits that the Jersey Girls are nothing but bloodsucking media hores and she has exposed them in her last book and on the Today Show.

She speaks the truth and isn't afraid to stand up for what she believes in. This is what Chaim wants people to do.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Trumpeldor on September 20, 2007, 11:08:20 PM
She speaks the truth and isn't afraid to stand up for what she believes in. This is what Chaim wants people to do.

Ann is right about most things but certainly not everything.

If she supports the tasering, which I doubt she will do, she is clearly in the wrong. Can you picture Chaim or David taking the side of the dyke police force?

Can you picture David or Chaim saying that the kid overstepped the line in asking Kerry some tough questions?

 
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 20, 2007, 11:11:58 PM
The moral of the story is... Stay away of anything that has to do with Lurch. Kerry is, was and always will be a traitor leftist pig.  I am happy really that he lost the elections.  Bush is not much to write home about but Kerry? Forget it America would of been put in a coffin if he would of been elected.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 11:15:29 PM
The kid would created even more of a ruckus. He was out of control. We need to take care of liberal nutcases, who make society unpleasant for others.

I'm sure Ann Coulter, a JTF hero, is going to write that the zapping of this moron was justified, just you wait.

Are you a conservative or a fascist?

The Soviets certainly took care of 'liberal nutcases' who made society 'unpleasant' for others.
The Soviets were commy nuts. I'm a conversative. I am all for Chaim's quest to turn America into a moral-based society. We're not going to get that done with liberal loudmouths who want America to fall to its knees.

Being a liberal in the US is a lot different than it was being a liberal in the Soviet Union. Being a liberal in the US is the exact opposite of what the heroic liberals in the Soviet Union stood for.

Remember, JTF's purpose is to establish America and Israel as religious and moral countries. Which is exactly what both used to be at a time that seems all so long ago. Being a conservative is an ideal position to take if you want this accomplished. Otherwise you're missing the point of the whole JTF crusade.

And I'm talking about REAL conservatives not those phony baloneys you see on the Fox News Channel like Billy Bob Brains O'Reilly and InSeanity and Colmes the Kike. No I'm talking about real conservatives like JTF's own Chaim Ben Pesach, who is willing to stand up and take a true stance against America and Israel's evils.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 11:21:23 PM
She speaks the truth and isn't afraid to stand up for what she believes in. This is what Chaim wants people to do.

Ann is right about most things but certainly not everything.

If she supports the tasering, which I doubt she will do, she is clearly in the wrong. Can you picture Chaim or David taking the side of the dyke police force?

Can you picture David or Chaim saying that the kid overstepped the line in asking Kerry some tough questions?

 
Chaim has spoken about nutcase liberals ruining the country's moral-fiber more than once. I'm not sure what position he would take on this. He does feel that violence is necessary where it is needed, if it will make America or Israel a better place.

I don't care if the police were black retards, you can't have psychos controlling political forums. If the police stood there and did nothing, then that would defeat the purpose of having any kind of law enforcement.

The kid wasn't injured, though, remember that.

Heck, this whole thing was probably a stunt. This kid probably want this to happen, so he could sue for police brutality.

He has a notorious history for being a troublemaker.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Trumpeldor on September 20, 2007, 11:24:08 PM
And I'm talking about REAL conservatives not those phony baloneys you see on the Fox News Channel like Billy Bob Brains O'Reilly and InSeanity and Colmes the Kike. No I'm talking about real conservatives like JTF's own Chaim Ben Pesach, who is willing to stand up and take a true stance against America and Israel's evils.

Funny you mention Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity as phony conservatives, because, in true phony conservative fashion, both Hannity and O'Reilly supported the tasering.

I guess, for your own sanity, you should stop listening to Chaim and start listening to them.

Chaim has spoken about nutcase liberals ruining the country's moral-fiber more than once. I'm not sure what position he would take on this. He does feel that violence is necessary where it is needed, if it will make America or Israel a better place.

I agree that violence should have been used to subdue him. He should have been forced to the ground and cuffed for his actions. However, he should not have been tasered.

I don't care if the police were black retards, you can't have psychos controlling political forums.

Maybe I'm crazy but I'm not ok with lesbian midgets who cannot do their job properly electrocuting people. 

Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 11:34:48 PM

And I'm talking about REAL conservatives not those phony baloneys you see on the Fox News Channel like Billy Bob Brains O'Reilly and InSeanity and Colmes the Kike. No I'm talking about real conservatives like JTF's own Chaim Ben Pesach, who is willing to stand up and take a true stance against America and Israel's evils.

Funny you mention Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity as phony conservatives, because, in true phony conservative fashion, both Hannity and O'Reilly supported the tasering.

I guess, for your own sanity, you should stop listening to Chaim and start listening to them.
Oy vey, what's the point of having a debate with someone like you, who questions the other's insanity when you disagree. This kid has history of being a troublemaker! Are you reading those words? You can't have a known nutcase turning a political forum into a soapbox for his misguided liberal verbal antics. The guards told him stop numerous times. They grabbed the mic from him, and he began to get violent. They tried to escort him quietly, but he was flailing madly and kept trying to run back into the auditorium, so they had no choice but to take action, because escorting him quietly wasn't working.

How on Earth can you defend a kid who tried to turn his college auditorium into a house of rioting? He reminded me of one of Al Sharpton's goons.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Trumpeldor on September 20, 2007, 11:40:31 PM
Oy vey, what's the point of having a debate with someone like you, who questions the other's insanity when you disagree.

You completely deflected the FACT that you are in TOTAL agreement with the phony conservatives.

This kid has history of being a troublemaker! Are you reading those words? You can't have a known nutcase turning a political forum into a soapbox for his misguided liberal verbal antics. The guards told him stop numerous times. They grabbed the mic from him, and he began to get violent.


Violent? Which video did you watch? The kid never once assaulted anyone. How dare you blame the victim in such an obvious case of police brutality? Liberal verbal antics are not a crime! The guards told him to stop and he replied that he would leave on his own power if he was not tased. Saying "don't tase me bro" is a clear sign that he was willing to comply. How many guards do you need to calm down a hysterical kid without tasering him? TELL ME!

Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 20, 2007, 11:41:28 PM
rE:  "...Ann Coulter..."

Shortly after 9/11 took place, I corresponded with Miss Coulter personally.

Besides joking about the best way to deal with Ben Laden, another subject was brought to her attention by me because she had written one of her typically brash nervy & loudmouthed articles denouncing a family and their hired attorney representing a young boy who had "acted out" in a manner which had him in legal difficulties.

The lawyer's defense, based on family interviews, was that the child had been been placed on the medication isotretinoin by his physician, and that this medication was suspected of triggering suicidal clinical depression in the young boy, resulting in his aggressive behavior.

Coulter was publicly blasting the boy, his family, and his attorney, as "liberals" "dishonest"  "disloyal to America", and screaming that there was no drug which could cause depression in children...her usual dogpuke drivel for which she is renowned, and for which she has earned millions of dollars from fools who believe she actually has anything to offer anyone in the way of wise counsel.

I took it on myself to directly inform Ann that she did not have the slightest idea what the hell she was talking about, because I knew for a fact of the clinical contraindications of oral isotretinoin and its derivatives.

First, it was discovered to cause horrendous "thalidomide" like birth defects and foetal abnormalities when taken by females, even if conception took place just one day while on the drug.

Normally patients take a 2 or 3-week regimen and stop.

The therapeutic effects can continue, even intensifying, for years following this dosage regimen; the side effects including radical personality shifts, suicidal ideation, intense depression, or elation, can also last for long periods, with the actual totality of the drug's effects on body and mind not fully known.

So much for loud mouthed skinny blondes getting paid millions to tell those who know even less than she does how they are supposed to think.

Ever heard her rail and rant about President Roosevelt being little more than a traitorous Red who introduced socialism to America and in doing so prolonged the Great Depression?

This is more of her bullsh_t.

Virtually every single State and National Park, every zoo all over the country, almost every single classic style U.S. Post Office in every major city in the U.S., as well as the vast majority of transportation bridges, dams, and tunnels, which are used and enjoyed by everyone, and taken for granted each day by fools who listen to Ann Coulter owe their creation to President Franklin Delanore Roosevelt, who organized and ordered the formation of the WPA (Works Project Administration)to take the millions of American men who were then jobless, homeless, hungry, and destitute as a result of the Great Depression, and put them all back to work doing honorable public works construction projects badly needed by the U.S., in so doing providing them a genuine salary and room and board along with their jobs.

The real benefit to these men (maybe your grandfathers or fathers?) was the psychological self-respect and regained sense of self-worth, along with their restored faith in the future of their country at a time when everyone was broker than broke, and while Europe was burning with Hitler, Mussolini, etc... .
 
All you "Good Conservatives" out there think about that, next time you walk into your downtown Post Office painted inside with patriotic wall murals...or drive across a suspension bridge with a small stone plaque reading "WPA" (Works Project Administration)...your nation is great because a President with wisdom ordered a "socialistic" scheme as the exact medicine necessary to revive a near-dead capitalist free enterprise system.

And your nation is in a "terminal prognosis" state right now, because those who know very little if not nothing at all, are paid millions and millions by the corrupt establishment, to verbally assault and denounce publicly anyone and everyone who may even slightly disagree with them.

This week, Coulter's motto is "War with Iran Would Be Fun!".

We'll see if she's still singing that tune 6 months from today.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Trumpeldor on September 20, 2007, 11:44:15 PM
Your unqualified admiration of FDR troubles me, Massuh.

FDR's true legacy was not the 'New Deal' (in which maybe 1/3 of the social programs were effective, 2/3 wasteful and ill-advised), but allowing 6 million Jews to die because (A) he did not allow them to escape to the USA during the 30's and (B) refused to bomb the rail lines to the camps.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I'll make sure to remember the great hero FDR next time I wait 2 hours in line at the post office.

Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 11:45:39 PM
JTF does not support "war" with Iran. Read the seven point plan of JTF. JTF's hope is for the bombing and complete destruction of Iran's nuclear development facilities.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 11:58:06 PM
Oy vey, what's the point of having a debate with someone like you, who questions the other's insanity when you disagree.

You completely deflected the FACT that you are in TOTAL agreement with the phony conservatives.

This kid has history of being a troublemaker! Are you reading those words? You can't have a known nutcase turning a political forum into a soapbox for his misguided liberal verbal antics. The guards told him stop numerous times. They grabbed the mic from him, and he began to get violent.


Violent? Which video did you watch? The kid never once assaulted anyone. How dare you blame the victim in such an obvious case of police brutality? Liberal verbal antics are not a crime! The guards told him to stop and he replied that he would leave on his own power if he was not tased. Saying "don't tase me bro" is a clear sign that he was willing to comply. How many guards do you need to calm down a hysterical kid without tasering him? TELL ME!


He said that after his struggling, because anyone will stop what they're doing if they have several hundred volts of live electricity pointed at them. But how were they to know he wouldn't stop struggling once they put the taser away? A police-issued taser can't injure a healthy person. He's of perfect health.

Like I said I watched the video in two places. The video shown on MSNBC made his cries of pain sound like he was being totured because the audio was so bad. O'Reilly showed the video will the audio leveled-out and it turned out his cries were pretty meek and sounded put on. You couldn't see his actual tasering, because people were crowded around him.

So, yes, I do agree with O'Reilly. Once in a while the misguided TV conservatives get something right.

No, I don't like anybody getting tasered, but if it was used as a means of justice, then I'm all for it.

O'Reilly is right when he said the kid is a loudmouth liberal who wanted trouble and when he got it, he couldn't handle it.

I didn't hear Sean Hannity's comments on the subject, so I can't comment on that.

The kid wanted this to happen. I will keep repeating that, as many times as you ask me why I feel this way. He is known for this kind of thing. You are obviously not informed of his past escapades. So, how can you defend one who's background you know nothing of. If you knew about his past insanity, you wouldn't be defending him to lengths that you are.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Trumpeldor on September 21, 2007, 12:02:54 AM
The kid wanted this to happen. I will keep repeating that, as many times as you ask me why I feel this way. He is known for this kind of thing. You are obviously not informed of his past escapades. So, how can you defend one who's background you know nothing of. If you knew about his past insanity, you wouldn't be defending him to lengths that you are.

Whatever Andrew Meyer did in the past, significant or insignificant, has no bearing on the day's events. NONE! Was he so much of a threat that the security guards were given a dossier on him before the event? Is that why they were so inefficient in controlling him?

I'm not defending him so much as his right to speech and his right not to be brutalized by a fascist, bolshevik Gestapo. 
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Mishmaat on September 21, 2007, 12:13:46 AM
Slightly OT: MassuhDGoodName are you an educator or just really well educated?
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 21, 2007, 12:31:22 AM
The kid wanted this to happen. I will keep repeating that, as many times as you ask me why I feel this way. He is known for this kind of thing. You are obviously not informed of his past escapades. So, how can you defend one who's background you know nothing of. If you knew about his past insanity, you wouldn't be defending him to lengths that you are.

Whatever Andrew Meyer did in the past, significant or insignificant, has no bearing on the day's events. NONE! Was he so much of a threat that the security guards were given a dossier on him before the event? Is that why they were so inefficient in controlling him?

I'm not defending him so much as his right to speech and his right not to be brutalized by a fascist, bolshevik Gestapo. 
There is a difference between free speech and an unrational outburst, which is what this self-hating Jew had. So, if you're saying what this young man did is free speech than you may as well say the same for Louis Farakkhan and Al Sharpton. They're just speaking their mind, according to you. They're not hurling hate and losing their compsure. They don't deserve to be removed for acting like an animal, a creature that belongs in a cage. They don't deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law. So, if Farrakhan says he wants to build good relations between us "dirty" Jews and his ragtag band of Muslim Nazis, you'll dismiss his past crimes? Because this comparison shares the same ideas they you have suggested about forgetting one's past crimes. This is what the US judicial system did with all the majority of Nazis after World War II. They said "Uh, the war's over, so we'll just prosecute about fifty and leave the rest, because they caused The Holocaust was a year ago."

Since when did subduing a raving lunatic become an act of Nazism. Nazism was the unjust prosecution of an innocent people due to a unjust hatred for people who were making Germany, Poland and Holland a better place.

Don't you dare compare Nazism, something my grandfather, a good, no, a remarkable Jew, who fought for in Word War II during his tenure in the US Navy. He was there to save his people. How you can compare THAT to an inconsequential event like a punk kid getting what he WANTED.

Meyer knew what would happen to him if he did what he did, that's why he did it. This moron still didn't take a hint when security came marching torward him. He still continued to babble on and on about information he already knew the answer to and knew full well ol' horseface would just BS his way out it. People do these kinds of things for two things: attention and money. Meyer is an evil person and a disgrace to his people.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 21, 2007, 12:33:33 AM
The kid wanted this to happen. I will keep repeating that, as many times as you ask me why I feel this way. He is known for this kind of thing. You are obviously not informed of his past escapades. So, how can you defend one who's background you know nothing of. If you knew about his past insanity, you wouldn't be defending him to lengths that you are.

Whatever Andrew Meyer did in the past, significant or insignificant, has no bearing on the day's events. NONE! Was he so much of a threat that the security guards were given a dossier on him before the event? Is that why they were so inefficient in controlling him?

I'm not defending him so much as his right to speech and his right not to be brutalized by a fascist, bolshevik Gestapo. 
And yes, he didn't pose a massive threat to the guards. That's why they tased him, instead of shooting him.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Trumpeldor on September 21, 2007, 12:51:57 AM
I compared the action of the security guards to fascism, not Nazism in particular, which is just one of fascism's many forms. You seem to have difficulty acknowledging that the Soviet Union also used repression and intimidation to force dissidents into silence. I don't care what your opinion is of  Meyer's politics. I'm far to the right of him but I support his right to speak. The people who are more dangerous to this country are the feminized men who sat there laughing while this happened to him.

Jackson abused his right to free speech when he incited a deadly riot at Freddy's Fashion Mart. He should have been arrested and later put on probation and thus not allowed to speak in public for quite some time. If that wasn't enough, the man should have been further punished for the Tawana Brawley affair.

On the other hand, Meyer is a college student who asked legitimate questions at a forum. He had every right to a response from Kerry, who was in fact prepared to answer them until the campus police intervened.

You keep talking about Meyer's lack of composure. Show me where in the constitution losing one's composure is a crime. Farrakhan never loses his composure. He is very calm in his speeches, so I'm sure you'd have no problem with him. Now,I understand that Meyer's demeanor is what led to his arrest, and justifiably, but if you can't make the distinction between proper police behavior and authoritarian abuse of power, then you seriously need to question where you stand politically.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 21, 2007, 03:38:58 AM
I compared the action of the security guards to fascism, not Nazism in particular, which is just one of fascism's many forms. You seem to have difficulty acknowledging that the Soviet Union also used repression and intimidation to force dissidents into silence. I don't care what your opinion is of  Meyer's politics. I'm far to the right of him but I support his right to speak. The people who are more dangerous to this country are the feminized men who sat there laughing while this happened to him.

Jackson abused his right to free speech when he incited a deadly riot at Freddy's Fashion Mart. He should have been arrested and later put on probation and thus not allowed to speak in public for quite some time. If that wasn't enough, the man should have been further punished for the Tawana Brawley affair.

On the other hand, Meyer is a college student who asked legitimate questions at a forum. He had every right to a response from Kerry, who was in fact prepared to answer them until the campus police intervened.

You keep talking about Meyer's lack of composure. Show me where in the constitution losing one's composure is a crime. Farrakhan never loses his composure. He is very calm in his speeches, so I'm sure you'd have no problem with him. Now,I understand that Meyer's demeanor is what led to his arrest, and justifiably, but if you can't make the distinction between proper police behavior and authoritarian abuse of power, then you seriously need to question where you stand politically.

Why do you turn to insults? Why would I like the black Hilter Louis Farrakhan?

Meyer really wasn't asking a question, he was making an attack, and he didn't even let Kerry speak.

Didn't you see when security tried escorting Meyer out how he dashed back down the auditorium asile? If that's not resisting arrest, I don't know what is. He wouldn't let them cuff him, because he kept flailing, so the only way to subdue him was give him a bit of a jolt.

If you support that people should be able to do whatever they want without consequences, why don't you become a liberal? Everybody at MSNBC is defending Meyer. They think he's just fantastic.

What a great person this Meyer kid is. Let's just pin a medal on him. According to one member, he's an honor student and a Jew, so that makes it OK to act like a maniac. You could've slipped a black kid in his place and I wouldn't have known the difference. That's how low-class this Meyer fellow is.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: decimos on September 21, 2007, 05:24:37 AM
i saw it on u tube,it was incredible..in a place of learning aswell..madness.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Ultra Requete on September 21, 2007, 04:12:05 PM
It was staged; he said clearly it was recorded for YUR Tube; to have future evidence; propably to sue the collage or police; he knew he have only one minute one question for person but asked next one; he was taken by guards but brawled those "lesbo midgets" ;who got their job thanks only to AA; so they have to taser him; which is less life and health threatening than police button swing; and one most important thing: why defend the rights of far left demented liberal who woud send you all to GULAG if he had a chance; up to the point of deflaming the fellow JTFers as nazis and comies. This all crazy afair was not about 'freedom of speach" but about "public disturbance" We all here are individuals with strong convitions but we shoudnot fight one another; save the  passion for leftist and muslim enemies, and wait for further details.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 21, 2007, 05:13:46 PM
I just my guess, but I think he wanted to be tasered just so he could make a big deal ot of it.
That's what I'm saying. Meyer knows the school recognizes him as a troublemaker. He knew an outburst would trigger drastic action, and he got what he was looking for. Who knows he may of even payed the guards to tase him. He's a sick person. Just go to his website and see how much of self-hating Jew and how twisted his mind he really is.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: New Yorker on September 22, 2007, 11:42:55 PM

This is just to funny  ;D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc)
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 23, 2007, 06:02:18 AM


Ann is right about most things but certainly not everything.

If she supports the tasering, which I doubt she will do, she is clearly in the wrong. Can you picture Chaim or David taking the side of the dyke police force?

Can you picture David or Chaim saying that the kid overstepped the line in asking Kerry some tough questions?

 


I don't think Chaim despises the police.  You think he takes Al Shartpon's or Jesse Jackson's side every time they make false accusations against the police?  I doubt it.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: MarZutra on September 23, 2007, 09:35:19 AM
In my opinion, it was totally wrong what the police did.  The kid, even being a leftist, did take his time to ask questions that others often think about.  I may not agree with this fellows opinions but to be silenced via the same old tactics the communists used in the labor unions by unplugging the mic and being beaten for his voice.

It was police brutality, a violation of his constitutional rights to free speech.  More over, I do not side with this kid because he is a Jew (so I'm told) not because of his political opinions/views but because he has a right to free speech and voice his views like all others... 

He should sue the police and even John Kerry personally for standing idly by or even instigating the entire issue by his fraudulant actions, being a member of a highly questionable and even treasonous organization: skull and bones..

Theoretically, MassuhD would be right in always supporting a Jew: "Thou shalt not stand idly by thy brother's blood" - Lev 19:16 BUT in my opinion this does not pertain to anti-Jew leftists like soros... 

I fully support and back this kid on his constitutional rights alone...

I hope that this answers your quesitons and I posted a little something...
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 23, 2007, 10:00:11 AM
Marzutra:  "I hope that this answers your quesitons and I posted a little something..."

Marzutra, you have passed over the truly important questions!
Please answer the following:

Question: When it's time for their "come 'uppance", which mongrels should be bullwhipped first?

a) the two fat yellow skinned bulldykes?
b) the 7 ft. spook with 15 lbs. of black blubber growing on the back of his neck?
c) Goofus & Gumby, the frightened 6'2" whiteys afraid to be the first on their block to do anything?
d) Kerry's campaign manager?
e) The jigolo?

Question:  Once the bullwhip has "educated" the uneducated, which mutants should be tasered from 1" away from their butt?
a) everyone from the media in attendance?
b) everyone who laughed at the tasering?
c) the jackboot Fascists given dangerous weapons to compensate for their inferior minds?
d) all Mohammedans on the campus?
e) forget electricity...lock all of the above in a bamboo cage, packed so tight that any movement is impossible, suspend with a crane to "dry out" in the Florida sun, and come back in a year or two to view "The JTF exhibit of modern art".

Answer wisely, Marzutra!  This is your last chance!
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 23, 2007, 10:09:53 AM
DEATH TO FASCIST JACK-BOOTED NAZI THUGS!

Sickening!

Fat Ugly Mutant Bull-Dyke Whores, 7 ft tall rubberneck [censored], Hispanics, Stupid Dumb Whitey Flunkeys.

THIS IS NAZISM...PURE AND SIMPLE...COMING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU...SOON!

DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS.

STOCKPILE WEAPONS FOR YOUR OWN SURVIVAL.

LEAVE FOR ERETZ YISRAEL IF POSSIBLE.



yawn.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: dawntreader on September 23, 2007, 10:43:05 AM
I was so pissed when I saw those cops/security guards/whatever tasering that guy! Whatever happened to the fourth amendment? I think the cops can legitimately be said to have "Seized" him. Further more, he spent the night in jail WITHOUT being arrested.

If I had been there I would have caused a riot. I would have been calling for the student body to join me in rushing those cops.

The Police in general have been steadily gaining powers, and now it seems, no matter what they do...well it's ok because well, they're the cops you see. They MUST be in the right. They've got a uniform, and a badge.

I happen to think they just lack a nice set of jack-boots and a little swastika arm band myself.

The Executive Branch of the U.S. government needs a major overhaul. From the top down, because those in high places, on down to the thugs hired off the streets who get to be legitimate thugs wearing uniforms, all seriously seem to act with impunity. They seem above the law.

(Have you noticed that the policeman's life is worth more than the average Joe?...just take a look at the immediate death penalty that's handed out to a "cop killer" as opposed to many different variations of sentences handed down to those who might just happen to murder a bum under a bridge.)

It sickens me. Especially so, when you know that these people are part of a branch of government that is systematically removing the individual freedoms of American Citizens. (Of course, the Legislative Branch members are all wuss's who jump on the coat-tails of their particular party leadership...regardless of what is REALLY right or wrong.)

Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: cjd on September 23, 2007, 11:06:20 AM
I was so pissed when I saw those cops/security guards/whatever tasering that guy! Whatever happened to the fourth amendment? I think the cops can legitimately be said to have "Seized" him. Further more, he spent the night in jail WITHOUT being arrested.

If I had been there I would have caused a riot. I would have been calling for the student body to join me in rushing those cops.

The Police in general have been steadily gaining powers, and now it seems, no matter what they do...well it's ok because well, they're the cops you see. They MUST be in the right. They've got a uniform, and a badge.

I happen to think they just lack a nice set of jack-boots and a little swastika arm band myself.

The Executive Branch of the U.S. government needs a major overhaul. From the top down, because those in high places, on down to the thugs hired off the streets who get to be legitimate thugs wearing uniforms, all seriously seem to act with impunity. They seem above the law.

(Have you noticed that the policeman's life is worth more than the average Joe?...just take a look at the immediate death penalty that's handed out to a "cop killer" as opposed to many different variations of sentences handed down to those who might just happen to murder a bum under a bridge.)

It sickens me. Especially so, when you know that these people are part of a branch of government that is systematically removing the individual freedoms of American Citizens. (Of course, the Legislative Branch members are all wuss's who jump on the coat-tails of their particular party leadership...regardless of what is REALLY right or wrong.)


I dislike Kerry about as much as anyone else and possibly a bit more. The sad fact is when you have people assembled together like that there is only so much disruption you can allow before the situation starts to spiral out of control. This kid was there to create a incident and he was really very bad at disguising it. The fact you complain that policeman's like is worth more than the average Joe is not exactly the case. The fact is is that police respond to situations dealing with violent people every day. The laws on the books that make it a death penalty for killing an officer is a good one. People need to know that they can't  expect to take down a police officer and then walk away with 10 years jail time. They have to know that if they shoot and kill an officer that they will be put to death or at the least face life in prison. As bad as you think things have become here in the USA we are a long way from jackboots and swastikas.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: MarZutra on September 23, 2007, 12:23:53 PM
Marzutra:  "I hope that this answers your quesitons and I posted a little something..."

Marzutra, you have passed over the truly important questions!
Please answer the following:

Question: When it's time for their "come 'uppance", which mongrels should be bullwhipped first?

a) the two fat yellow skinned bulldykes?
b) the 7 ft. spook with 15 lbs. of black blubber growing on the back of his neck?
c) Goofus & Gumby, the frightened 6'2" whiteys afraid to be the first on their block to do anything?
d) Kerry's campaign manager?
e) The jigolo?
f) All of the Above

Question:  Once the bullwhip has "educated" the uneducated, which mutants should be tasered from 1" away from their butt?
a) everyone from the media in attendance?
b) everyone who laughed at the tasering?
c) the jackboot Fascists given dangerous weapons to compensate for their inferior minds?
d) all Mohammedans on the campus?
e) forget electricity...lock all of the above in a bamboo cage, packed so tight that any movement is impossible, suspend with a crane to "dry out" in the Florida sun, and come back in a year or two to view "The JTF exhibit of modern art".
f) All of the above

Answer wisely, Marzutra!  This is your last chance!

From what I saw from watching the video, the guy did not do anything wrong as far as I could tell.  If it were me, you or most of the others on this forum we'd too have been tasered for asking any and all questions we'd like to have asked most especially if it was directly posed to Mr. Kerry and his connections to the Skull and Bones. 

What was done to this kid was pure fascism.  Sadly, this kid being of the left probably will not think twice that it was his own ideological cohorts that did it to him just as the Bolsheviks that run Israel can't seem to grasp that the anti-Jew hates the Jew no matter if the Jew is a Nazi like Fisher or a Communist like Marx....   my two cents.... 
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Daniel on September 23, 2007, 01:23:50 PM
Jay Leno stated so eloquently, "This was the first time someone was electrified at a John Kerry speech!" :)
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Daniel on September 23, 2007, 01:25:31 PM
I saw the youtube video of it and i was pretty confused of what was goign on, but someone explained it to me.

In my opinion, even though I hate Kerry with the passion, believe that this person who got tasered was heckeling Kerry inappropriately. It's not that he asked a simple question...he answered his own question...thereby wasn't addressing Kerry, but preventing Kerry from his own free speech.  Heckeling is not a good form of free speech since it disrupts someone else's. The exception to the rule is if the speech being heckled is a true hate speech, which Kerry wasn't doing.

Nevertheless, the appropriate thing to do with this heckler was to escort him out. THe tasering was over the top.

The issue was also that when security or law enforcement tells you to do something, you do it! This guy was refusing to comply with the security guards' orders and was resisting. That's why he got tasered and that's why it was justified.
Title: Re: The John Kerry Spech
Post by: Daniel on September 23, 2007, 01:34:32 PM
Why the kid needed and deserved to be tasered:

1.) The forum was at its end. This aggorant nutcase saved his questions for the end of the forum just so he could start trouble. He's a nutcase liberal, so he's going to do nutcase things.

2.) He resisted arrest. He clearly did not go quietly. I watched this first on MSNBC. Chris Matthews played this video and the audio was so loud, it seemed like the kid was being tortured. Matthews and company commented on the barbaricness of the security guards. When the video was aired on the O'Reilly Factor the audio was set to a normal level, and it was pretty apparent this kid was milking it. O'Reilly even called this kid "a wuss."

3.) This kid is notorious for creating trouble on campus. He has a reputation for being a world-class pain in the tush, and has been suspended before for his abnormal behavior.

4.) In Conclusion, the tasing wasn't so bad. They have him one little zap and that was that. They knew who this kid was, so they knew to act accordingly. This kid had it coming.

What? Kerry is a liberal, that doesn't even make sense how you could call the kid a liberal. If the kid was a liberal, then why did Kerry have him escorted?
Kerry didn't have him escorted. The kid was making a ruckus. He wouldn't calm down. The security guards started to remove him from the auditorium and he started flailing violently, so they had no choice but to take action.

Let me ask you this: Say you were attending a Broadway play. At the end of the show, you get up and start causing a commotion. Yelling at the actors and getting all nutty. You've lost control and aren't rational. What do you expect security to do, allow you to continue to disturb people with your outburst or do something about?

Like I said, if you read about this kid, you'll learn that he has a history of trouble-making.

Calling this Nazism is false. This is about maintaining decency in society.

You cannot let people do whatever they want.

And this kid wasn't a Kerry-supporter. He started to criticize him. He started hurling a barrage of questions at Kerry. So many, that there was no way Kerry could've possibly answered them all. Remember, the forum had just ended, too. He reminded me of that Arab Nazi who attends all of Bush's addresses and does the same thing.

I disagree that just because he was criticizing Kerry means that he didn't support him. A similar situation occurred when the Congressional Black Caucus was harassing Al Gore for accepting the Florida results and requested that the chair's decision should be appealed when Al Gore was the chair. So does this mean the Congressional Black Caucus didn't support Gore?
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: MarZutra on September 23, 2007, 01:44:09 PM
When was he "resisiting" arrest?  What did he do that was justifiable for arrest in the first place, state his views?  On the video one can clearly hear him say something to the affect "Leave me alone. I've done nothing wrong. I'll leave peacefully if you let me go"....  This kid was clearly no threat to anyone and didn't disserve what he got nor to be treated this way by fascist police officers....

Brother, I humbly disagree...
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: Daniel on September 23, 2007, 02:01:31 PM
When was he "resisiting" arrest?  What did he do that was justifiable for arrest in the first place, state his views?  On the video one can clearly hear him say something to the affect "Leave me alone. I've done nothing wrong. I'll leave peacefully if you let me go"....  This kid was clearly no threat to anyone and didn't disserve what he got nor to be treated this way by fascist police officers....

Brother, I humbly disagree...

His words and his actions contradicted each other. He wasn't leaving peacefully.

This isn't an issue of not being able to state his views. That's just fine. The problem was is that he just went on and on and on and refused to stop talking after it was requested again and again. Then he continued to yell and shout and disrupt as the security guards were removing him from the room.

I don't disagree with his viewpoints as much as I disagree with the way he went about causing a major disruption. These are two separate issues.
Title: Re: University of Florida student tasered arrested for questioning John Kerry
Post by: MarZutra on September 23, 2007, 05:28:25 PM
Well, IF, as i'm using capital letters because I personally didn't see it the way you state but IF he was doing what you say, there was no need for tasering of the fellow as he was already leaving when the security guards were pushing him to the back and he was already on the ground when they used the tasers. 

Sorry brother, I must disagree with you.  I happen, to agree with Michael Savage's view on this as well.  Even though he was a leftist... which begs the question as to why Leftists are allowed to dominate and act far worse than this fellow when a "right wing"/Conservative is speaking and the opposite when a Leftist anti-American like Kerry is up there?  He didn't disserve what he got.  Time will tell once all the law suits end.... ;)