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I think there are two totally separate issues here.
1) Yes, I despise any and all attempts to missionize Jews. Those who do this are evil, they are not righteous, and I will always believe this.
2) Righteous evangelical support outside of Israel needs to be applauded. It really is the American Evangelicals, and groups like CUFI who have helped push the GOP for very pro-Israel policies like stopping the Iran deal, withdrawing from UNRWA, recognizing Jerusalem, moving the embassy, etc.
As Chaim has said on numerous occasions, the righteous gentiles are an important part of our movement.
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Sadly, the Evangelical, Christian community is much more loyal to Israel than the majority of the American, Jewish community, specifically the secular/unaffiliated, Reform and Conservative, Jewish communities. The non-religious, American, Jewish community, for some reason?, continues to support the Democratic Party which hates Jews, Israel and White people, and continues to move further Left on the political spectrum.
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As Chaim has said on numerous occasions, the righteous gentiles are an important part of our movement.
The term righteous Gentiles has a clear Torah Law meaning: These are Gentiles who earn eternal spiritual reward by accepting upon themselves to fulfill the Seven Noahide Commandments and being careful in their observance, specifically because the Holy One, blessed be He, commanded them in the Torah, and informed us through Moses our teacher that Noah's descendants had been previously commanded to fulfill them.
The false belief in an intermediary is unrighteous, meaning that the person is not one of the righteous Gentiles.
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I, personally, in my opinion, see no conflicts between Christians and Jews. Aren't we rewarded and punished by the same cool dude?
Jews who are good should worry not. Unless some guy with a swastika comes up to you with a gun. Then you should wise up because its not the guy from Joe's Pizza.
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I, personally, in my opinion, see no conflicts between Christians and Jews. Aren't we rewarded and punished by the same cool dude?
Jews who are good should worry not. Unless some guy with a swastika comes up to you with a gun. Then you should wise up because its not the guy from Joe's Pizza.
I have no problem with Christians,however I detest Christian missionaries who are nothing but soul snatchers!!!!
I think missionary activities should be banned in Israel & any missionary who targets Jews deported & never be allowed to set foot in Israel ever again!!!!
After the crusades,the inquisition,auto da fes,pogroms & the holocaust Christians should respect our right to live as Jews & not murder our souls like they murdered our bodies for centuries!!!!
We respect your right to practice your religion respect ours as well & do not missionize/prostletyze/evangelize/witness to or peach at us!!!
Those who missionize Jews are as evil as any Nazi or Arab terrorist!!!!
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I have no problem with Christians,however I detest Christian missionaries who are nothing but soul snatchers!!!!
I think missionary activities should be banned in Israel & any missionary who targets Jews deported & never be allowed to set foot in Israel ever again!!!!
After the crusades,the inquisition,auto da fes,pogroms & the holocaust Christians should respect our right to live as Jews & not murder our souls like they murdered our bodies for centuries!!!!
We respect your right to practice your religion respect ours as well & do not missionize/prostletyze/evangelize/witness to or peach at us!!!
Those who missionize Jews are as evil as any Nazi or Arab terrorist!!!!
I agree with you about missionaries, but I don't understand why you respect their right to practice idolatry.
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I agree with you about missionaries, but I don't understand why you respect their right to practice idolatry.
Free choice.
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Free choice.
Does it matter to you that Jews are commanded by G-d to compel Gentiles to stop practicing idolatry?
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Does it matter to you that Jews are commanded by G-d to compel Gentiles to stop practicing idolatry?
Of course it does
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Does it matter to you that Jews are commanded by G-d to compel Gentiles to stop practicing idolatry?
who should the goy serve?
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Of course it does
It's either freedom or compelling. You can't do both.
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who should the goy serve?
The goy should serve HaShem.
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I have no problem with Christians,however I detest Christian missionaries who are nothing but soul snatchers!!!!
I think missionary activities should be banned in Israel & any missionary who targets Jews deported & never be allowed to set foot in Israel ever again!!!!
After the crusades,the inquisition,auto da fes,pogroms & the holocaust Christians should respect our right to live as Jews & not murder our souls like they murdered our bodies for centuries!!!!
We respect your right to practice your religion respect ours as well & do not missionize/prostletyze/evangelize/witness to or peach at us!!!
Those who missionize Jews are as evil as any Nazi or Arab terrorist!!!!
Yes, they Jews in Israel should be left alone. Visit: yes, but left alone.
Jews are extremely different from the people of Europe, behaviour-wise.
I read a visitor's guide to Israel once many years ago. It said that the Jews view Europeans as phony and that Europeans view Jews as rude. To me, Euros and Jews look the same. Ah, hell, even Hitler couldn't tell them apart. Anyway, this is because Jews are very "no-frills" speakers. So, lets take the English, the slightest mistake and you are called 'rude'.
BTW I was born in China, therefore I am a communist. ^-^
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The goy should serve HaShem.
Which means?
Do we need to become Jews?
What do we need to convert to? Islam?
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Which means?
Do we need to become Jews?
What do we need to convert to? Islam?
If you accept the Seven Noahide Commandments, you don't need to become a Jew or a muslim.
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If you accept the Seven Noahide Commandments, you don't need to become a Jew or a muslim.
Oh, that was easy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah
""The Seven Laws of Noah include prohibitions against worshipping idols, cursing God, murder, adultery and sexual immorality, theft, eating flesh torn from a living animal, as well as the obligation to establish courts of justice. ""
That was easy. I already comply. The toughest part was not eating a live animals.
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Oh, that was easy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah
""The Seven Laws of Noah include prohibitions against worshipping idols, cursing God, murder, adultery and sexual immorality, theft, eating flesh torn from a living animal, as well as the obligation to establish courts of justice. ""
That was easy. I already comply. The toughest part was not eating a live animals.
Chr*stians violate the prohibition of idolatry. I hope you know that.
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Chr*stians violate the prohibition of idolatry. I hope you know that.
Actually there are Christian denominations that reject the trinity like JW's & a few others
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Actually there are Christian denominations that reject the trinity like JW's & a few others
There are Jewish denominations that reject the Oral Torah, like the Karaites and the Sadducees. Traditional chr*stian doctrine is trinitarian.
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There are Jewish denominations that reject the Oral Torah, like the Karaites and the Sadducees. Traditional chr*stian doctrine is trinitarian.
Indeed!!!!
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Chr*stians violate the prohibition of idolatry. I hope you know that.
Now we go back to my previous question: who should the goy serve?
So, the goy cannot be Christians. We cannot worship snakes, rocks, trees, or facebook.
You said we don't have to become jews or muslims.
What's left?
Can I be a Hindu then? What else? Do we worship Steve Jobs or Donald Trump?
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Now we go back to my previous question: who should the goy serve?
So, the goy cannot be Christians. We cannot worship snakes, rocks, trees, or facebook.
You said we don't have to become jews or muslims.
What's left?
Can I be a Hindu then? What else? Do we worship Steve Jobs or Donald Trump?
The belief in a divine trinity is an idolatrous concept, since it is a belief that G-d (or according to some, a second separate divinity) has characteristic features, and the characteristics of a body. G-d does not have a body or any form. If your mother is a Gentile, you are commanded to serve G-d by following His 7 commandments.
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The belief in a divine trinity is an idolatrous concept, since it is a belief that G-d (or according to some, a second separate divinity) has characteristic features, and the characteristics of a body. G-d does not have a body or any form. If your mother is a Gentile, you are commanded to serve G-d by following His 7 commandments.
Ok. Pick a religion for me then. Or none at all.
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Ok. Pick a religion for me then. Or none at all.
The Torah has 613 commandments for Jews and 7 commandments for Gentiles. Gentiles who follow the 7 commandments are called Noahides. You can call this religion Noahidism, or simply Torah.
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So, I can create my own religion? Can I still make cows and snakes holy? Can I make myself a saint in my new religion? But as long as I don't worship cows, snakes, and myself, right?
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So, I can create my own religion? Can I still make cows and snakes holy? Can I make myself a saint in my new religion? But as long as I don't worship cows, snakes, and myself, right?
No. After the commandments of the Torah and their explanations were given by G-d at Mount Sinai, people do not have permission from G-d to create any new religions.
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So, there is only one religion?
So these are fake and should not exist:
* Christianity
* islam
* Buddhism
* Shintoism
* Taoism
* Hinduism
* Confucianism
* Church of World Messianity
* Happy Science
*Konkokyo
*Oomoto
*PL Kyodan
*Seicho-no-Ie
*Shinmeiaishinkai
*Tenrikyo
*Zenrinkyo
Benzhuism
Chan Buddhism
Chinese folk religion
Chinese salvationist religions
Falun Gong
Siniticism
Yiguandao
Miao folk religion
Mohism
Wang Hao-te
Xiantiandao
Yao folk religion
Zhuang Shigongism
article: Hindu philosophy
Nyaya
Purva mimamsa
Samkhya
Vaisheshika
Vedanta
Advaita Vedanta
Integral Yoga
Dvaita Vedanta
Vishishtadvaita
Yoga
Ashtanga Yoga
Bhakti yoga
Jnana yoga
Karma yoga
Kabir Panth
Nanak Panth
Ravidassia
Sadh
Sant Mat
Sikhism
Akhand Kirtani Jatha (AKJ)
Amritdhari Sikh
Brahm Bunga Trust (Dodra)
Bhaniara Bhavsagar
Bhindrawale Jatha
Damdami Taksal (DDT)
Dera Sacha Sauda
Haripagni
Kahna Dhesian
Mahant Sikh
Minas (Mirharvan)
Namdhari Sikh (Kuka)
Nanakpanthi
Neeldhari Panth
Nihang (Akali)
Nirankari
Nirmala Panth
Nirvair Khalsa Daal
Non-Denominational Kesdhari
Prof. Darshan Singh Khalsa (SGGS Academy)
Radhaswami Sikh
Ramraiyya (Ram Rai)
Ravidassia Dharam
Sanatan Sikh Sabha
Sant Mat Movement
Sant Nirankari Mission
Sehejdhari Daal
Sikh Dharma International (SDI)
Sindhi Sikhi
Tapoban Tat-Gurmat
Udasi Sikh
Cheondoism
Daejongism
Daesun Jinrihoe
Gasin faith
Jeung San Do
Korean shamanism
Won Buddhism
Suwunism
Amish
Hutterites
Mennonites
River Brethren
Schwarzenau Brethren
Shakers
Landmarkism
Arianism (Historical)
Bagnolians (Historical)
Bogomilism (Historical)
Bosnian Church (Historical)
Catharism (Historical)
Cerdonians (Historical)
Esoteric Christianity
Shia Islam
Alavi Bohra
Dawoodi Bohra
Hebtiahs Bohra
Sulaymani Bohra
Nizari
Satpanth
Ja'fari jurisprudence
Twelver
Bektashi Order
Chishti Order
Mevlevi Order
Moorish Orthodox Church of America
Naqshbandi
Jahriyya
Kubrawiya
Khufiyya
Ni'matullahi
Qadiriyya
Shadhili
Suhrawardiyya
Sufi Order International
Sufism Reoriented
Tariqa
Tijaniyyah
Universal Sufism
Dances of Universal Peace
Ash'ari
Barelvi
Deobandi
Maturidi
Yihewani
eta Israel
Beta Israel
Black Hebrew Israelites
Black Hebrew Israelites
Karaite Judaism
Karaite Judaism
Kabbalah
Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism
Noahidism
Essenes (Historical)
Pharisees (ancestor of Rabbinic Judaism) (Historical)
Sadducees (possible ancestor of Karaite Judaism) (Historical)
Zealots (Judea) (Historical)
Sicarii (Historical)
Messianic sects (Historical)
Ebionites (Historical)
Elcesaites (Historical)
Nazarenes (Histo
John Frum
Johnson cult
Prince Philip Movement
Vailala Madness
Ausar Auset Society
Dini Ya Msambwa
Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ
Mumboism
Nation of Islam
Nation of Hashem
Nuwaubian Nation
Ariosophy
Black Order
Christian Identity
Creativity
Neo-vlkisch movements
Wotansvolk
Order of Nine Angles
Thule Society
Native American
Ghost Dance
Indian Shaker Church
Abkhaz neopaganism
Council of Priests of Abkhazia
Armenian neopaganism
Baltic neopaganism
Caucasian neopaganism
Celtic neopaganism
Dievturiba
Estonian neopaganism
Finnish neopaganism
Heathenry (a.k.a. Germanic neopaganism)
Hellenism
Hungarian neopaganism
Italo-Roman neopaganism
Kemetism
Kemetic Orthodoxy
Mari native religion
Romuva
Semitic neopaganism
Slavic neopaganism
RUNVira (a.k.a. Sylenkoism)
Peterburgian Vedism
Native Polish Church
Union of Slavic Native Belief Communities
Native Faith Association of Ukraine
Ynglism
Uatsdin
Zalmoxianism
Zuism
Adonism
Church of All Worlds
Church of Aphrodite
Feraferia
Goddess movement
Koshinto
Neo-Druidism
r nDraocht Fin
Order of Bards, Ovates, and Druids
Reformed Druids of North America
Neohamanism
Pow-wow
Radical Faeries
Summum
Technopaganism
Wicca
British Traditional Wicca
Gardnerian Wicca
Alexandrian Wicca
Central Valley Wicca
Algard Wicca
Chthonioi Alexandrian Wicca
Blue Star Wicca
Seax-Wica
Universal Eclectic Wicca
Celtic Wicca
Dianic Wicca
Faery Wicca
Feri Tradition
Georgian Wicca
Odyssean Wicca
Wiccan church
Covenant of the Goddess
Cult of Reason (Historical)
Cult of the Supreme Being (Historical)
Deism
Dudeism
Ethical movement
Freethought
North Texas Church of Freethought
God-Building
Humanism
Jediism
Moorish Orthodox Church of America
Pantheism
Naturalistic pantheism
World Pantheist Movement
Raelism
Religion of Humanity
Syntheism
Unitarian Universalism
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So, there is only one religion?
So these are fake and should not exist:
* Christianity
* islam
* Buddhism
* Shintoism
* Taoism
* Hinduism
* Confucianism
* Church of World Messianity
* Happy Science
*Konkokyo
*Oomoto
*PL Kyodan
*Seicho-no-Ie
*Shinmeiaishinkai
*Tenrikyo
*Zenrinkyo
Benzhuism
Chan Buddhism
Chinese folk religion
Chinese salvationist religions
Falun Gong
Siniticism
Yiguandao
Miao folk religion
Mohism
Wang Hao-te
Xiantiandao
Yao folk religion
Zhuang Shigongism
article: Hindu philosophy
Nyaya
Purva mimamsa
Samkhya
Vaisheshika
Vedanta
Advaita Vedanta
Integral Yoga
Dvaita Vedanta
Vishishtadvaita
Yoga
Ashtanga Yoga
Bhakti yoga
Jnana yoga
Karma yoga
Kabir Panth
Nanak Panth
Ravidassia
Sadh
Sant Mat
Sikhism
Akhand Kirtani Jatha (AKJ)
Amritdhari Sikh
Brahm Bunga Trust (Dodra)
Bhaniara Bhavsagar
Bhindrawale Jatha
Damdami Taksal (DDT)
Dera Sacha Sauda
Haripagni
Kahna Dhesian
Mahant Sikh
Minas (Mirharvan)
Namdhari Sikh (Kuka)
Nanakpanthi
Neeldhari Panth
Nihang (Akali)
Nirankari
Nirmala Panth
Nirvair Khalsa Daal
Non-Denominational Kesdhari
Prof. Darshan Singh Khalsa (SGGS Academy)
Radhaswami Sikh
Ramraiyya (Ram Rai)
Ravidassia Dharam
Sanatan Sikh Sabha
Sant Mat Movement
Sant Nirankari Mission
Sehejdhari Daal
Sikh Dharma International (SDI)
Sindhi Sikhi
Tapoban Tat-Gurmat
Udasi Sikh
Yes, the Torah is the only true religion. The prohibition of creating a new religion is an outcome of G-d's promise that the Torah of Moses is eternal, and His commandment that it must not be changed by mankind. All the religions you listed are heretical innovations.
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You edited the original list. I will not read the new list.
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haha! You're killing me. You sure have patience!
Now, your homework tonight is to study all listed religions!
Just a joke, don't do it.
The only people weirder than me are the Jews. They have a decryption device in their heads. Everyone else listens and says WTH? Jews listen to me and they hear a scholar. Only the Jews can interpret me.
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haha! You're killing me. You sure have patience!
Now, your homework tonight is to study all listed religions!
Just a joke, don't do it.
The only people weirder than me are the Jews. They have a decryption device in their heads. Everyone else listens and says WTH? Jews listen to me and they hear a scholar. Only the Jews can interpret me.
I studied many of the listed religions. I did my homework. My posting time is limited. If you flood me with long lists, I cannot reply to you.
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Guys I ask you to discontinue this discussion. It’s not for this forum nor in the spirit of the forum.
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You edited the original list. I will not read the new list.
This was on the list. This is the only legitimate Judaism.
Pharisees (ancestor of Rabbinic Judaism) (Historical)
Kabbalah was also on the list. Kabbalah is part of Judaism but is not a movement. The Madonna type people who study "Kabbalah" are not studying real Kabbalah.
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Guys I ask you to discontinue this discussion. It’s not for this forum nor in the spirit of the forum.
sounds good. but there's nothing else posted on this forum with an audience of 3.
where's chaim?
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Ughh... this thread would've been locked a long time ago in the past. It serves no purpose other than to push out the few gentiles we have left out of the forum.
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Guys I ask you to discontinue this discussion. It’s not for this forum nor in the spirit of the forum.
Understood.