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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rubystars on September 23, 2007, 11:30:42 PM
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I've been trying to get to the bottom of who is behind the New World Order agenda. I keep reading things and following leads but so far I haven't figured it out.
Is there some sort of shadow government thing going on?
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Research the following:
Cecil Rhodes
Rockefeller
The Origins of the Illuminati
Origins of FreeMasonry
Bilderbergers
In a nutshell, the absolute richest and most powerful "old money" families on the planet want to consolidate their control and rule over the entire Earth, destroy all nation states and end the concept of national sovereignty, institute a totally amoral "One World Government dictatorship, eliminate most of the population, destroy all religion except some form or other of "New-Age" paganism, and rule as demi-gods; controlling all the Earth's resources solely for the benefit of super-rich elite aristocracies.
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Marzutra first posted this link, I later posted it again, and for your benefit, here it is once again.
I can not stress just how important a work it is in explaining the true nature and horror of the New World Order proponents:
[url][http://philologos.org/__eb-trs//url]
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The Bavarian Iluminati; leadership of free masonary and spiritualists like Helena Blawatzky; satanists like Alister Crowley; and ultimatly The fallen angel, satan himself.
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I think it's socialists, communists and globalists.
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Shalom MassuhD, Is that the link to "The Rainbow Swastika" - Hannah Newman?
You are all correct. If you delve into reseach they are all linked via ideological agenda or common goals. CFR-Trilateral, Fabian, Bilderberg, Rhodes/Round Table, Club of Rome, Vatican, Skull & Bones (Illuminati), etc. The heads of the various Communist/Socialist movements.
The personalities you mentioned above Alister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky, New Age, Alice Baily, Stewart Chamberlan, Alfred Rosenberg, Margarette Meade, Marx etc. etc. are all very applicable as they are the "Preists" of their specific ideological movements by they are not those major players of the NWO/Globalist machine. If I were to put money on it I'd go with what all the rest of you stated; the super rich or ultra-capitalists who look for total monopolies within their industries with a goal being their ruling a "politbureau" sort of speak.
VIDEO: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=449294564876413449
EBOOKS: http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/ebooks/ebooks.html (America's Secret Establishment is one of many....)
You will see, and read, that many of these personalities were those the same that founded The League of Nations, United Nations, behind the EU, ACLU, CFR and all the rest... ;)
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Research the following:
Cecil Rhodes
Rockefeller
The Origins of the Illuminati
Origins of FreeMasonry
Bilderbergers
In a nutshell, the absolute richest and most powerful "old money" families on the planet want to consolidate their control and rule over the entire Earth, destroy all nation states and end the concept of national sovereignty, institute a totally amoral "One World Government dictatorship, eliminate most of the population, destroy all religion except some form or other of "New-Age" paganism, and rule as demi-gods; controlling all the Earth's resources solely for the benefit of super-rich elite aristocracies.
Don't forget the Rothchilds.
Central banks of the world are privately run institutions. Those national debts are funneling trillions of dollars in interest payments to someone. When the media says someone like Bill Gates is the richest man in the world, or that Mexican telecommunications tycoon, don't believe it. Their wealth is pocket change compared to the international bankers.
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That is certainly true. You might read the book or watch the video called "Creature from Jekyl Island" about the international banking establishment and the Federal Reserve system.
In the Rothschild's official biography it outlines that their 4 banking families in Germany, England, France and Italy were worth around $12.5 billion dollars in 1850. The Rockefeller biograhpy states that John D. was worth 5 billion in 1910. Now if one looks at these numbers, granted that both haven't lost money, Forbes Magazine ranks only one Rockefeller as 1.8 Billion or something like that and there are no Rothschilds listed.
Granted names change but in my opinion their money, like the Ford, Carnege etc. are stuffed inside tax shelters and so called "charity" foundations which are tax exempt.
Granted most of these wealthy people like Gates, the Oil Sheiks and other are now also working with and partaking in the International banking.
Of course one must also look at the ex-royalty of Europe as well the Windsor family of England. The Rothschilds are certainly the most tossed about name solely due to both their potential vast wealth but the anti-Jew "protocol" conspiracy "world domination" get the Jew wack job theories..
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That is certainly true. You might read the book or watch the video called "Creature from Jekyl Island" about the international banking establishment and the Federal Reserve system.
In the Rothschild's official biography it outlines that their 4 banking families in Germany, England, France and Italy were worth around $12.5 billion dollars in 1850. The Rockefeller biograhpy states that John D. was worth 5 billion in 1910. Now if one looks at these numbers, granted that both haven't lost money, Forbes Magazine ranks only one Rockefeller as 1.8 Billion or something like that and there are no Rothschilds listed.
Granted names change but in my opinion their money, like the Ford, Carnege etc. are stuffed inside tax shelters and so called "charity" foundations which are tax exempt.
Granted most of these wealthy people like Gates, the Oil Sheiks and other are now also working with and partaking in the International banking.
Of course one must also look at the ex-royalty of Europe as well the Windsor family of England. The Rothschilds are certainly the most tossed about name solely due to both their potential vast wealth but the anti-Jew "protocol" conspiracy "world domination" get the Jew wack job theories..
I've seen the creature from Jekyll Island, that was a good watch. I do shy away a bit from the Jewish conspiracy theories, but the bankers aren't just Jewish, people from all around the world have been pulled in. I'm sure you're right that people like Gates get noticed and pulled in because anyone that wealthy should be working with them and their agenda rather than possibly disrupting their plans for a one world socialist government.
I was a bit skeptical about the whole Rothchild thing, but there is too much documentation to ignore and I've never found one document that offers a contrary view. The story of Nathan Rothchild is very interesting. He was the brightest of the Rothchild boys and headed the London branch of the banking system. He used intelligence gathering to improve his position. He was personally at the Battle of Waterloo to observe the outcome and payed a captain a very handsome sum to sail him back to England in very stormy weather. Getting back to London before news of England's victory had circulated, he used agents to start selling off stocks to make it look like the French had won, this started a stampede of selling and crashed prices. He then preceded to use his agents to buy back everything at a bargain and greatly increased his wealth in one day. The same has been suggested of the stock market crash in 29. The Federal Reserve did the opposite of what it was supposed to do and contributed to the crash.
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Multinational corporations are behind the globalist agenda. Borders, nationalism, religious devotion and human rights stand in the way of greater profits and power for them.
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Of course you are right RationalThough. The story Yesh puts forward about the Rothschild capitalizing off of the early notice of Nepolians failure at Waterloo is a story which I don't know how much truth is inside. It most certainly can be possible as the Rothschilds developed one of, if not, the most complex and efficient postal systems in Europe of that day. Information is power, in most cases, and with their family operations would be seen as a prime decision making asset.
I am very sure that the Rothschilds had partners and I'm positive that these partners, debt/crediters were the Royalty and Industrial base of Europe...and probably later Rockefeller's America.
As for their funding of wars and what not, it is absolutely plausable but one must be aware that it is only the Jewish names that get tossed about: Rothschild, Schiff, Warberg, Oppenheim ect. by the "conspiracy theorist", Nazi or international anti-semite but never does one hear of or considers the mass gentile names like Basil Zaharoff, Henry Ford, John D. Rockefeller, Hapsburg or even the Widsors. Gentile names go back well into European history of International Banking and War making with Jacob Fugger, Medici, Geribaldi, Wellenstein, Francis Drake, El Cid et. etc. How far back does one wish to delve into the Gentile War Making and Global Dominance theories and actions: the respective Pharohs of ancient Egypt, Alcibiades, Agamemnon or Achilles of Ancient Greece, Titus, Hadrian, Ceaser of ancient Rome, Xerses of Persia, Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, Esarhaddon of Assyria, Hattusili I of the Hittutia, Khan or Mongolia/Asia or even Mohammed and Omar I and II of Islam...directly related to today's Islamic Expansionism funded by both America/West, China, Russia, Arabia and too aided by the "Jews" of Israel.....? Of course I'm just making a point that this theory, and of course its deed of conquest, have been around since the dawn of time totally unrelated and without the Jew.
In truth, Jewish financial and industrial holdings are far behind that of the gentile and quickly falling in comparison to that of the Oil Sheikdoms/Emirates and Saud....especially after Jimmy Carter's Adminstration... Them's the facts. John Loftus outlines it well in one chapter within his book "The Secret War Against the Jews".
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From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".
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From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".
That's a stupid analogy.
It's like saying because this forum advocates sexual propriety, we must be muSSlims because they do the same.
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From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".
Aggression, that is one of the most inept statements I've read on this forum in a very long time. It is obvious that you do not read many posts on the forum and know little of JTF. Population reduction is purely of the eugenics "New Age" theorists like Margarette Meade period, end, full stop. I've posted a very good link to Hannah Newman's "The Rainbow Swastika" which provides a very sound outline of this entire idology/ineptitude.
As for birth control and population control, you're in the wrong forum. From an Orthodox perspective there are only three justifications for abortion and that is when the mother's life is at risk, the product of rape or the product of incest....
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well lets not forget the federal reserve system thru lies
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well lets not forget the federal reserve system thru lies
Dr. Stanley Monteith's: "Secrets of the Illuminati" & his book "Brotherhood of Darkness":
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5308868963962684764&q=Stanley+Monteith
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4124254495665553230&q=Brotherhood+of+Darkness
"The Capitalist Conspiracy" based on Cleon Skousen's book "The Naked Capitalist" and Dr. Carroll Quigley's immense work "Tragedy & Hope":http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=449294564876413449&q=The+Capitalist+Conspiracy
Dr. Stanley Monteith's interview of Dr. Antony Sutton on "The Best Enemies Money Can Buy":http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1554689498515659283&q=Antony+Sutton
And lastly a very interesting documentery on "The Creature from Jeckel Island" The Federal Reserve:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-70668650671711857&q=Phenomenon%3AThe+Secret+of+the+Federal
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Marzutra first posted this link, I later posted it again, and for your benefit, here it is once again.
I can not stress just how important a work it is in explaining the true nature and horror of the New World Order proponents:
[url][http://philologos.org/__eb-trs//url]
I checked out this link. It all looks familiar. My Jewish friend in Israel is very much into this New Age world peace stuff - she tells me about it every time we speak. A lot of people are, according to her.
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Yes, sadly, they have been sucked in.... May they wake up...
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how so the Hapsburg ??????
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I think it's socialists, communists and globalists.
It's those plus the neocons like Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and all the other globotards in the establishment.
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"Neo-Cons" to identify for those who don't know means "New" "Conservative". They are not "Conservatives" at all but Trotsky-ites. These are the Elitist Establisment crowed. It is an oligarchy. At the top there is no difference between "right wing" and "left wing" it is the same bird.... ;)
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From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".
Who in this forum is pro-abortion?
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very influential rich people beyond our imaginations...
that includes people who own very valuable commodities...oil is one of them.
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From what I have heard the "NWO" is supposed to be for population reduction and people in this forum seem to be for abortion and birth control so I would say this forum is behind the "NWO".
Who in this forum is pro-abortion?
It depends on when...for certain thing i woudl be strongly pro-abortion..other things very anti-abortion. In my opinion..on the fence on abortion...
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If anyone wishes to grasp a good understanding of this simply read James Perloff's "Shadows of Power" or any of the books by Antony Sutton...
http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/ebooks/ebooks.html ;)
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Does Judaism have a stand on abortion? I think if the mother's life is at stake is about the only reason. Using abortion as contraception is pretty evil.
There is some clown up in the Chicago area that is trying to have abortion (actually euthanazia/murder) legalized up until the child is 3 months old.
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Does Judaism have a stand on abortion? I think if the mother's life is at stake is about the only reason. Using abortion as contraception is pretty evil.
There is some clown up in the Chicago area that is trying to have abortion (actually euthanazia/murder) legalized up until the child is 3 months old.
My understanding are as follows:
If the mother's life is in danger, she MUST have an abortion. All other times it's wrong.
However, by "life being in danger." Some will rule that if she dies, she must. Others will say that danger has to do with mental or other physical ailments. common orthodox point of view is that only if it is the physical life of the mother. in all other cases of rape, defective child, etc they can't..but should still consult with their rabbi if distress might take place from the birth.
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Massuh or MZ,
Is the illuminati the same thing as Skull and Bones?
It's not clear to me that there still is an organized group known as the illuminati. That term seems to be thrown around to include all the elites who support the New World Order agenda.
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If you look far enough you'll find that money and power is ruling over all those people...so really they are powerless and money and power really run the world agenda...if you look even further you'll find that G-d is behind it all as "the leaders of nation's hearts are in the hands of G-d"...and G-d is of course the source of all money and power...
But if you look even further you'll find that we're behind it...G-d is waiting for us to DO something about it and as long as we don't we are letting them get away with it and subconsciously admitting that we're okay with exile, we're okay with the status quo we like living in "Egypt" and we want to stay there.
It's time to break the shackles folks.
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If you look far enough you'll find that money and power is ruling over all those people...so really they are powerless and money and power really run the world agenda...if you look even further you'll find that G-d is behind it all as "the leaders of nation's hearts are in the hands of G-d"...and G-d is of course the source of all money and power...
But if you look even further you'll find that we're behind it...G-d is waiting for us to DO something about it and as long as we don't we are letting them get away with it and subconsciously admitting that we're okay with exile, we're okay with the status quo we like living in "Egypt" and we want to stay there.
It's time to break the shackles folks.
deep
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HORSElady is.
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Massuh or MZ,
Is the illuminati the same thing as Skull and Bones?
It's not clear to me that there still is an organized group known as the illuminati. That term seems to be thrown around to include all the elites who support the New World Order agenda.
Shalom Brother. There are two very applicable answers and reads to this question that were presented by two very worthy authors. John Robison's book "Proofs of a Conspiracy" printed in, I believe, 1798. Robison documents "the Order of the Illuminati, founded in 1775, by Dr. Adam Weishaupt, professor of Canon law in the university of Ingolstadt, and abolished in 1786 by the Elector of Bavaria, but revived immediately after, under another name, and in different form, all over Germany. It was again detected, and seemingly broken up; but it had by this time taken so deep a root that it still subsists without being detected, and has spread into all countries of Europe." His examination of this order, born of freemasonry, has induced him ." to lay before the public a short abstract of the information which [he hopes] sufficient for establishing the fact, that this detestable association exists, and its emissaries are busy among us." This was/is a monumental work, especially for its printing. He documents how the Illuminati worked to infiltrate and control reading rooms, Universities and the political scene, which is highly similar to the Fabian Socialist Society and their "Christian Book Club" where they "Socialized" the Bible and propagated Socialist ideals to the believing Christian community as well their connecting organizations: ACLU, CFR/Trilateral, Royal Institute for International Affairs etc.
The second author is Dr. Antony Sutton, due to his immense information capture and documentation within his books. He argues that after the Illuminati got shut down it went underground and resurfaced with a branch in America called "The Skull and Bones Society". He documents this history, its deeds and its affiliates in his work "America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones" which is available via e-book: http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/ebooks/ebooks.html
There you will find other works of his that are related to the history, deeds and individuals concerned within the topic you've asked... enjoy... ;)
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Massuh or MZ,
Is the illuminati the same thing as Skull and Bones?
It's not clear to me that there still is an organized group known as the illuminati. That term seems to be thrown around to include all the elites who support the New World Order agenda.
Shalom Brother. There are two very applicable answers and reads to this question that were presented by two very worthy authors. John Robison's book "Proofs of a Conspiracy" printed in, I believe, 1798. Robison documents "the Order of the Illuminati, founded in 1775, by Dr. Adam Weishaupt, professor of Canon law in the university of Ingolstadt, and abolished in 1786 by the Elector of Bavaria, but revived immediately after, under another name, and in different form, all over Germany. It was again detected, and seemingly broken up; but it had by this time taken so deep a root that it still subsists without being detected, and has spread into all countries of Europe." His examination of this order, born of freemasonry, has induced him ." to lay before the public a short abstract of the information which [he hopes] sufficient for establishing the fact, that this detestable association exists, and its emissaries are busy among us." This was/is a monumental work, especially for its printing. He documents how the Illuminati worked to infiltrate and control reading rooms, Universities and the political scene, which is highly similar to the Fabian Socialist Society and their "Christian Book Club" where they "Socialized" the Bible and propagated Socialist ideals to the believing Christian community as well their connecting organizations: ACLU, CFR/Trilateral, Royal Institute for International Affairs etc.
The second author is Dr. Antony Sutton, due to his immense information capture and documentation within his books. He argues that after the Illuminati got shut down it went underground and resurfaced with a branch in America called "The Skull and Bones Society". He documents this history, its deeds and its affiliates in his work "America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones" which is available via e-book: http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/ebooks/ebooks.html
There you will find other works of his that are related to the history, deeds and individuals concerned within the topic you've asked... enjoy... ;)
Thanks! You gave me some homework. But I guess I can infer that it does still exist and Skull and Bones is only one branch of the umbrella group. I always knew the ACLU was part of the cabal.
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The ACLU was founded in January of 1920. It was founded to provide legal services to exposed Socialists and Communists. Many of the heads of the ACLU were communists. If you have a library near you Lubab, I strongly suggest you borrow the book by Rose Martin called "Fabian Freeway: High Road to Socialism in the USA".
Antony Sutton, like the long drole Caroll Quigley of the Establishment "Left", are very informative and accurate on genral history of and knowledge into many branches of this NWO players. One group in particular that was very active, amongst others, active in progressing Socialism in England, and later within America is the British Fabian Socialist Society. The names of those who are members will shock anyone who simply researches, even wikipedia would give some idea of the grand chess game...even via one organization.
One will too find that the most active, names, within the BFSS are also related to those within such groups as the Milner/Rhodes Round Table, Bilderberg, Institute for International Affairs (British counterpart to the CFR/Trilateral) and of course their direct connections to the UN (to which Alger Hiss wrote the charter), ACLU even the ADL and other "progressive" "Jewish" organizations.
If you wish to download the ecopy you can get a torrent of it... I do believe.... A fabulous book... I liked it so much I purchased the book.... ;)
Seek and yee shall find.... ;)
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Do some research on Roger Baldwin the founder of the ACLU. He is about one fo the most ungodly people you could imagine. More proof the NWO is backbed by Satan.
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Very correct about Roger Baldwin. More interesting is the fact that the ACLU with their debauched Attorney's "progressed" Evolutionary Darwinism (Dialectical Materialism) into public education via their landmark case "Scopes Monkey Trial". Very interesting in deed when one reads other books which are associated to this issue: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" - Charlotte Thompson Iserbyte, "Dumbing Down" and "The Underground History of American Education" - John T. Gatto, "Is Public Education Necessary" - Samuel L Blumenfeld, "None Dare Call it Education" - John Stormer or "Why Johnny Can't Read" by Rudolph Flesch. This is only the NWO's agenda, cause and effects directly related to the "Educational" system... which not only applies to America but the entire West...
Very complex and deprave I must say....
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So why does the ACLU support curtailing federal government power when it comes to things like wiretapping and invasions of privacy.
They should be the staunchest supporters of a centralized federal government that can do what it pleases.
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So why does the ACLU support curtailing federal government power when it comes to things like wiretapping and invasions of privacy.
They should be the staunchest supporters of a centralized federal government that can do what it pleases.
Probably because they're used to monitor evil people whose actions the ACLU supports.
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Ive always equated the NWO with internationalism. Not with the typical sensationalistic luminati or skull and bones or masons.
To me the NWO is all about liberalism, internationalism, and multiculturalism. Many far-lefters want to meld the entire world population into one big cess pool of grey ooze. That is their goal... and they are very OPEN about it. Every time you hear MULTICULTURALISM... run for the hills... because that IS the NWO.
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Ive always equated the NWO with internationalism. Not with the typical sensationalistic luminati or skull and bones or masons.
To me the NWO is all about liberalism, internationalism, and multiculturalism. Many far-lefters want to meld the entire world population into one big cess pool of grey ooze. That is their goal... and they are very OPEN about it. Every time you hear MULTICULTURALISM... run for the hills... because that IS the NWO.
You are partially correct briann. You must research the history behind all of your lables. What they mean? How they are applied (schemas)? Who developed them? For what reasons/goals? Then you will be on the proper track to a more focused perspective and off the generalizations.
When you reasearch the ideologies, you'll find names. Names you will find are attached to groups/orangizations. Organizations you will find associated with additional organizations personalities and particular goals.....
I'll stop now before people start accusing me of being Nik reincarnated ;)
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Ive always equated the NWO with internationalism. Not with the typical sensationalistic luminati or skull and bones or masons.
To me the NWO is all about liberalism, internationalism, and multiculturalism. Many far-lefters want to meld the entire world population into one big cess pool of grey ooze. That is their goal... and they are very OPEN about it. Every time you hear MULTICULTURALISM... run for the hills... because that IS the NWO.
Brian, I have to agree with you. To me a New World Order is Islam and the Communists taking over. Islam an Communism are the same...both seek to divide and conquer and have ultimate control over the masses. We are all trying to preserve our way of life and there are those who will stop at nothing to take our freedom away. Communisn and Islam do not tolerate independent thinking.... free minds make trouble for their agenda of a New World Order.
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Republic you as well are partially correct. Islam is a globalist ideology with an agenda to place the entirety of Earth under Sharia Law: Islam. Communism: International Socialism: National Socialism are too globalist agendas. Now within each there are subgroups. Many are interconnected via common personalities, schemas and end goals...with minimal differance. A good example is the fact that the Environmentalist is very similar to the Humanist which is similar to the Socialist which is similar to this New Age ineptitude.
Hopefully, I'm clearing up some of the fog of war... :)
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Republic you as well are partially correct. Islam is a globalist ideology with an agenda to place the entirety of Earth under Sharia Law: Islam. Communism: International Socialism: National Socialism are too globalist agendas. Now within each there are subgroups. Many are interconnected via common personalities, schemas and end goals...with minimal differance. A good example is the fact that the Environmentalist is very similar to the Humanist which is similar to the Socialist which is similar to this New Age ineptitude.
Hopefully, I'm clearing up some of the fog of war... :)
Hi Marzutra, first I would like to thank you for responding to my post. I do see your point too, you mentioned these ' sub groups ' and I am going to assume that these sub groups are not as agressive and therefore not as much of a threat as say Islam and Communism. First we eradicate the enemy and for these sub groups that have ' ideas ' not beneficial to us we can deal with them if bigger issues arise from their actions. I do not think these sub groups pose such a threat...unless these sub groups become radical and turn out to be like Islam or Communism. Thank you again and Shalom from Dox! :)
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Obama is also behind the NWO. He wants to bring everyone into one world so that they can live in the same way as everyone else. Then the clouds will part, the sun will shine, the birds will sing hallelujah, and candy will flow from the river of change. :::D
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Lately I watched a video that is about the Bilderberg group and NWO in general.
It goes more than 2 hours and is quite scary.
I belive that there are crazy people out there who think it's their fate to rule the whole world. On the other hand it feels like these conspiracy theories go too far by claiming everything is in the hands of the NWO guys which automatically leads to the conlcusion that NWO is the only threat and other things like islamic terrorism doesn't really exist or is only a tool of those behind the NWO to further their goals.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&ei=OSS9SLn4IIHw2AL6nIXsDA&q=endgame
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Donald Duck!
The old world order agenda was run by Micky Mouse
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To Mar Zutra, FYI I'm almost certain that Basil Zaharoff was a Jew.
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To Mar Zutra, FYI I'm almost certain that Basil Zaharoff was a Jew.
I wouldn't be surprized if he was a Jew but than again I don't know. People still say Adolf Hitler was a Jew. A fag yes but Jew not at all likely. I beleive he was born in Turkey under the name Basileios moved as a child to Greece and then later in life to Russia or something like that. It has been a very long time since I've read on this individual. The name Zaharoff was not his origional name, I don't believe. I think it was a "Russian" adaptation. I read his biography in the book "Men of Wealth" by John T. Flynn