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Title: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on July 18, 2019, 12:06:49 PM
There is an individual he comes into our shul only for the Kiddush.
I think may daven at another shul in the  neighborhood.
But what really gets me is before the gabbai or rav makes Kiddush he grabs something & eats it.
I think this tacky & a chutzpah on his part.
Title: Re: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on July 18, 2019, 02:22:50 PM
I don't know. For Noahides going to shul is optional, but I don't go because there is no Orthodox synagogue where I live. Even if there were, I'm not sure how Jewish people would feel about my presence there.
Title: Re: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: Israel Chai on July 18, 2019, 09:52:07 PM
I don't know. For Noahides going to shul is optional, but I don't go because there is no Orthodox synagogue where I live. Even if there were, I'm not sure how Jewish people would feel about my presence there.

Trust me, they’ll trip over themselves happy at a someone who isn’t Jewish that doesn’t hate them.

There is an individual he comes into our shul only for the Kiddush.
I think may daven at another shul in the neighborhood
But what really gets me is before the gabbai or rav makes Kiddush he grabs something & eats it.
I think this tacky & a chutzpah on his part.

Tell him wait no? If he comes and follows the rules better than not coming. At least he makes a bra ha no?
Title: Re: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on July 18, 2019, 10:41:21 PM
Trust me, they’ll trip over themselves happy at a someone who isn’t Jewish that doesn’t hate them.

Tell him wait no? If he comes and follows the rules better than not coming. At least he makes a bra ha no?
Sure he makes a brocha but it is not nice when he is davening elsewhere & just coming for the kiddush
Title: Re: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on July 18, 2019, 11:55:10 PM
Trust me, they’ll trip over themselves happy at a someone who isn’t Jewish that doesn’t hate them.

It depends on the congregation. Some Rabbis are comfortable with Noahides attending their synagogue services. Some are not.
Title: Re: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on July 19, 2019, 01:10:55 AM
It depends on the congregation. Some Rabbis are comfortable with Noahides attending their synagogue services. Some are not.
My shul in America had a Gentile named  Merle who called himself chometz man & he davened with us every Shabbos & even donated a new stove to the shul
Title: Re: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on July 19, 2019, 01:36:24 AM
My shul in America had a Gentile named  Merle who called himself chometz man & he davened with us every Shabbos & even donated a new stove to the shul


So I guess he's the one who bought the chametz every Erev Pesach.


Title: Re: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on July 19, 2019, 01:58:32 AM


So I guess he's the one who bought the chametz every Erev Pesach.
He is.
Title: Re: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 20, 2019, 09:52:54 AM
I would try not to judge this person. Maybe he’s poor hungry and religious.

Or maybe he’s a freeloader.
Title: Re: What do you think of somebody who comes to shul; just for the kiddush?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on July 20, 2019, 03:02:46 PM
I would try not to judge this person. Maybe he’s poor hungry and religious.

Or maybe he’s a freeloader.
He's a freeloader he is quite well off.
IMHO Even if he comes late he can at least daven with us