Idiots who equate colonisation with nazism.

[newman]

I'm getting sick to death of leftists, turd worlders, bleeding hearts and garden variety retarded idiots equating colonialism with eugenics/nazism!

A few questions:

Did the nazis invade primitives to improve the land and better the primitives' lives?...................NO.

Did the nazis allow the conquered to have their own reservations to build casinos on to make $millions?.............NO

Did the nazis give the conquered huge tracts of land allowing them to make $millions in mining royalties?............NO

Did the nazis pay $billions in social security to those they conquered and require them to do NOTHING in return?..............NO

Did the nazis spend $billions on health care, public housing, education and other benefits to those they conquered?.................NO

I will borrow one idea from the nazis....................Anyone so utterly stupid as to equate european/British colonisation of the new world with nazism  should be either castrated or gassed!!!!!!!!!!

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I think that a lot of these claims about colonialism are BS. Gimme a break--the Brits did want to get the riches of third world nations.

That being said, there's a difference between being greedy and starting a holocaust, so I do agree with you there.

[Trumpeldor]

While the Europeans were busy colonizing dark people, the dark people were busy colonizing themselves. The left has everyone convinced that they were holding each other's hands and singing kumbaya. They didn't advance while the Europeans did because they were living like violent savages.

[Kiwi]

Anyone so utterly stupid as to equate european/British colonisation of the new world with nazism  should be either castrated or gassed!!!!!!!!!!

I totally agree, the British civilized a lot of the world.

[newman]

Holland, Beldium, Denmark, Poland and all the other countries were civilised, advanced states with governments, schools, libraries and automobiles etc. Fancy equating them with lands that were occupied by warring tribes with not so much as one wooden wheel between them!

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

The Poles are crude anti-Semites.

The British did "civilize" a lot of the world but also sided with Islam in every mixed country and discriminated against the Jews--and facilitated the Holocaust.

[newman]

The Poles are crude anti-Semites.

The British did "civilize" a lot of the world but also sided with Islam in every mixed country and discriminated against the Jews--and facilitated the Holocaust.

Did I claim the Brits were saints??

What relevance does your post (true as it is) have to the topic of this thread?

[Boeregeneraal]

The Poles are crude anti-Semites.

The British did "civilize" a lot of the world but also sided with Islam in every mixed country and discriminated against the Jews--and facilitated the Holocaust.

and not to mention, how they(brits) starved women and children to death in "concentration camps", while they were "civilizing" the world!!!

[newman]

The Poles are crude anti-Semites.

The British did "civilize" a lot of the world but also sided with Islam in every mixed country and discriminated against the Jews--and facilitated the Holocaust.

and not to mention, how they(brits) starved women and children to death in "concentration camps", while they were "civilizing" the world!!!

You can criticise many aspects of early colonists from South Africa, Australia or the USA.

But the fact remains that their actions were about as similar in intent and deed to the nazis as chalk is to cheese.

[Boeregeneraal]

The Poles are crude anti-Semites.

The British did "civilize" a lot of the world but also sided with Islam in every mixed country and discriminated against the Jews--and facilitated the Holocaust.

and not to mention, how they(brits) starved women and children to death in "concentration camps", while they were "civilizing" the world!!!

You can criticise many aspects of early colonists from South Africa, Australia or the USA.

But the fact remains that their actions were about as similar in intent and deed to the nazis as chalk is to cheese.

Oh yes, that's right! Colonialism brough these people LIFE! Whereas nazism brought outright DEATH!

[JR-Obilic]

I agree with u that it shouldn't be compared.

But i also think it's wrong to say that what The Europeans did to the Natives or even human slavery is ok.  I doubt you would feel that way if u were a fat gambling Native alcoholic with no concept of what was once your culture.  Or a intellagent colored person in America...  But to use that to lay a guilt trip on Americans is definitelly wrong because people all over the world did the same thing in those times.  Hell, it took us 500+ years to get Turkish "nobles" out of "colonized" Serbia.

I bet they think they were enriching our culture as well, in reality they made sure that people in that part of the world will continue hating and killing eachother for generations.  In our quest for glory, we become evil when we become oblivious to the pain of others!  And that's just human nature, we have to fight that no matter what its origin..  and yea, sometimes that means looking in the mirror.



  

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Of course I do not think they are synonymous. Colonialism was not mass extermination.

[newman]

I agree with u that it shouldn't be compared.

But i also think it's wrong to say that what The Europeans did to the Natives or even human slavery is ok.  I doubt you would feel that way if u were a fat gambling Native alcoholic with no concept of what was once your culture.  

More silly leftist pollution of a young mind.

The fat alcoholic native is so by his own choice. Are whites forcing booze down his neck? As to his culture, his tribal elders, museums and books can tell him all he needs to know if he'll just get off his arse and read one!

BTW,

I'm of Irish blood. Does the English screwing-over of my great-great grand parents have ANY effect on me today?.......................NO!!!!!!!!

[Kiwi]

The Poles are crude anti-Semites.

What? so the poles that were gassed were anti-Semites? Or the Poles that help their own people (Jewish poles) escape the Nazis are anti-Semites?

Or even now the Poles that are fighting against terrorism and supporting Israel are anit-Semites too?

Geeez poor Ultra Requete, who is going tell him he is an anti-Semite   

[JR-Obilic]

im not a leftist.  you are delusional if u think that!

and last i heard, Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants hated eachother.  i think that has an effect on you unless your one of those Wonderbread Irishmen.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Nobody gassed the Poles. Many were killed by being in the crossfire of the Nazis and Soviets, but there was no Final Solution for Poles.

MOST Poles enthusiastically helped the Nazis and became workers at Auschwitz. In fact, even the Polish anti-Nazi resistance helped the Nazis liquidate the ghettos of Jewish resistance fighters.

[Kiwi]

Nobody gassed the Poles. Many were killed by being in the crossfire of the Nazis and Soviets, but there was no Final Solution for Poles.

MOST Poles enthusiastically helped the Nazis and became workers at Auschwitz. In fact, even the Polish anti-Nazi resistance helped the Nazis liquidate the ghettos of Jewish resistance fighters.

They killed Polish Jewish as much as anyone

[newman]

im not a leftist.  you are delusional if u think that!

and last i heard, Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants hated eachother.  i think that has an effect on you unless your one of those Wonderbread Irishmen.

I didn't say YOU were a leftist. But your brain has been filled with leftist stupidity.

It's had ZERO effect on me whatsoever.

Nor has the Saxon invasion of Britain, the Roman invasion of Britain or the Norman invasion of Britain turned the British into fat alcoholics!

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Yes, the Poles did kill Polish Jews.

[Boeregeneraal]

im not a leftist.  you are delusional if u think that!

and last i heard, Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants hated eachother.  i think that has an effect on you unless your one of those Wonderbread Irishmen.

I didn't say YOU were a leftist. But your brain has been filled with leftist stupidity.

It's had ZERO effect on me whatsoever.

Nor has the Saxon invasion of Britain, the Roman invasion of Britain or the Norman invasion of Britain turned the British into fat alcoholics!

Yes! Good points there Newman, as always 

[Kiwi]

Yes, the Poles did kill Polish Jews.

Then how can all Poles be anti-Semite as you stated. If you admit some Poles are Jews. 

Or are they self haters too 

[JR-Obilic]

im not a leftist.  you are delusional if u think that!

and last i heard, Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants hated eachother.  i think that has an effect on you unless your one of those Wonderbread Irishmen.

I didn't say YOU were a leftist. But your brain has been filled with leftist stupidity.

It's had ZERO effect on me whatsoever.

Nor has the Saxon invasion of Britain, the Roman invasion of Britain or the Norman invasion of Britain turned the British into fat alcoholics!

i agree with you in that we can't keep using the past to point fingers or even justify the present.  but without the past, there would be no present and history is whats building our future.  Natives are originally from Asia.  if you look at Asian Americans, they are successful more often then Natives.

There is obviously a reason for that.

Is that a reason to blame anybody today?  No!  It happened hundreds of years ago and that kind of mentality is only harmful to Natives themselves.  But to deny that history has a bad effect on those poor people is crazy!

Obviously Europeans taking over other Europeans is gonna have a different effect because its still European cultures meshing, not one culture stripping another.  If you were Irish today, and Ireland had been taken over by Turks for hundreds of years and they were still in power there, im sure it would have an effect on you.   You would either be dead, become a Islamic Turk yourself, or be living as the scum of Turk society.  I can tell you Ottoman Turks taking over the Balkans and raping my relatives had a great effect and thanks to them YOU now have 2 muslim states in Europe.  I've seen the effect of this first hand which is why I believe what i do so strongly.

PS - from what i know Celts were also colonized in the Balkans at one time.  The reason their presence in our history is not perceived as negative is because they weren't there to make us Muslim, strip us of our culture, or rape our relatives.  Thanks Irish!

[Ambiorix]

Obviously Europeans taking over other Europeans is gonna have a different effect because its still European cultures meshing, not one culture stripping another.

100% true

[Boeregeneraal]

PS - from what i know Celts were also colonized in the Balkans at one time.  The reason their presence in our history is not perceived as negative is because they weren't there to make us Muslim, strip us of our culture, or rape our relatives.  Thanks Irish!
[/quote]

They did?
Mmmm...must have been with the crusades? Because, I can't see otherwise how celts could possibly have taken a country thousands of miles away, but also, they were not tostrong a people(don't get me wrong here Newman ). So yes, i can only think of the crusades.

Anyway, thanks for that, i find it interesting 

[JR-Obilic]

i found a pretty good explination.. ill try 2 find more on the subject:

The first inhabitants of the region that was later to become Yugoslavia were the Illyrians; they were followed by the Celts in the 4th century BC and the Romans 100 years later. In the middle of the 6th century AD, Slavic tribes crossed the Danube and occupied much of the Balkan Peninsula. In 1217 the Serbian Kingdom - which included a lot of present-day Albania and northern Greece - asserted its independence from Byzantium, but in 1389 the Ottoman Empire cut that little party short, invading Serbia and settling in for the next 500 years. Throughout the 19th century the Serbs continued pushing back, and by 1878 they'd regained their independence.