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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #75 on: May 04, 2007, 08:59:04 AM »
I asked Chaim about this issue early this morning just before he left the house.

Here's how I feel about this, and I believe that Chaim agrees with me:

1. Chaim thinks very highly of Chaimfan and Down With Islam, and praised them both effusively on a recent Ask JTF program. But Chaim believes - as do I - that personal attacks against other posters is harmful to the forum. How can we encourage new people to join if they believe that they might be subjected to all types of personal attacks if they dare to disagree with JTF on a certain issue? Chaimfan and Down With Islam, think about it: what if YOU disagree with Chaim or with JTF on some issue in the future? Wouldn't you want the right to be able to express your opinions without being personally attacked? Chaim and I want you to have that right. You can disagree with people, but let's do it respectfully. These types of attacks and this type of language will only marginalize JTF, and will only play into the hands of those who claim that we are crazy.

2. Dominater apologized for his attack on Chaim. Chaim accepts the apology. Unless we see new personal attacks on Chaim in the future, we should put this matter behind us. Dominater should be welcomed here even if he disagrees with some of our views.

3. It's true that some people have tried to insult me by calling me "goy" and various other names. Chaim was indeed very angry when he saw these insults because Chaim loves the righteous Gentiles. But I am not concerned about these attacks. My Rabbi, yes MY Rabbi, Meir Kahane loved ALL righteous and decent people. Rabbi Kahane was murdered in the end in part because he heroically sought to warn the American Gentiles about the threat of Islamic terrorism. Al Qaeda correctly felt that it was essential to their efforts to destroy America to get Rabbi Kahane out of the way, because Rabbi Kahane was warning the GOYIM about the dangers of Islam. Rabbi Kahane was the greatest human being I have ever known, and I will never forget his sacrifices in order to save all decent human beings, both Jewish and Gentile, from the Muslim monsters. I will always be loyal to the legacy of this Torah giant. And since I believe that Chaim and JTF are continuing the Rabbi's holy work, I want to do everything in my power to help. If the anti-JTF Jews want to call me a "goy" and insult me, that will not deter me. "Goy" means nation in Hebrew, and Israel is also called "goy" in the Torah and the Tanach. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE INSULTED BY JEWS WHO HATE CHAIM BEN PESACH AND JTF. THEIR INSULTS PROVE THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT I AM HELPING CHAIM AND JTF. THERE IS NO HIGHER HONOR THAN THAT.

4. JTF strongly disagrees with the decision of HaRav Ovadia Yosef and his Shas party to support the Oslo suicide agreements. HaRav Ovadia even urged Israel to surrender her sacred eternal capital city of Jerusalem in 1991 for "peace". Shas is part of the Smolmert regime of treason, and has been a loyal member of the Smolmert government coalition. Eli Swisah, the Shas Interior Minister, expelled Chaim from Israel while Shas was meeting with PLO terrorist mass murderers. HaRav Ovadia and Shas supported the evil decision to invite the Arab Hitler Yasser Arafat and 80,000 Muslim terrorists into the Land of Israel, while ordering that Chaim Ben Pesach cannot even set foot in the Holy Land.

However, despite these horrible actions, HaRav Ovadia is regarded as a leading rabbinic authority by many religious Jews. To personally insult and attack him will deter Sephardi-Mizrachi (non-European) Jewish youth from joining our movement. Many of our followers in our Israeli movement are Sephardi-Mizrachi youth. We can disagree and criticize, but to personally attack and insult a leading rabbinic authority will hurt our movement. Please do not make personal attacks on HaRav Ovadia. You can disagree without making personal attacks.

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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #76 on: May 04, 2007, 09:06:42 AM »
Re:  "...when there is very little room for compromise, you make more enemies than friends..."

You spelled "enemas" wrong.

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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #77 on: May 04, 2007, 11:01:26 AM »
Re:  "...when there is very little room for compromise, you make more enemies than friends..."

You spelled "enemas" wrong.

no i meant enemies..not enemas...but yes, if you do make very little room for compromise in certain parts of your body, you may need more enemas!! haha ;D
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #78 on: May 04, 2007, 11:02:33 AM »
Re:  "...when there is very little room for compromise, you make more enemies than friends..."

You spelled "enemas" wrong.


Maybe he was spelling in Ebonics. ;D


Hey whachya talkin about, Willis!? :-\
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #79 on: May 04, 2007, 03:17:48 PM »
Saying he is an Erev Rav rabbi (and no, I will not add anything to that) is NOT an insult--it is a statement of fact. It would be like saying Ahmadinejad is an anti-Semite.

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« Reply #80 on: May 04, 2007, 03:29:39 PM »
I though enema is enemy in Ebonics.


If you mean ebonics as in street trash slang, it is constantly changing...enemies could be enema, enemz, emineminemiz...language has disintergrated so much and people are changing words every day

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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #81 on: May 04, 2007, 05:32:47 PM »
Saying he is an Erev Rav rabbi (and no, I will not add anything to that) is NOT an insult--it is a statement of fact. It would be like saying Ahmadinejad is an anti-Semite.
NO he isnt an Erev Rav. You dont even know what erev rav is.

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« Reply #82 on: May 04, 2007, 08:54:08 PM »
Again, I know what erav rav is and It is debatable whether or not Rabbi Ovadia Yosef is that. His actions certainly suggest he is one. The accusation against him were laid out clearly in the last ask jtf show.
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« Reply #83 on: May 04, 2007, 09:15:55 PM »
Religious leaders who accept money from governments; especially those dependent on money from governments, are inevitably compromised.

The Founding Fathers of the U.S. knew all too well from personal experience the result of religion and state mutually recognizing each other.

It results in Theocracy.

Whoever it is that puts the steak on your table and the car in your garage, is the same that defines the limits of your thoughts and actions.


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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #84 on: May 05, 2007, 10:51:19 PM »
You are all pee pee heads.....
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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2007, 06:20:16 PM »
Religious leaders who accept money from governments; especially those dependent on money from governments, are inevitably compromised.

The Founding Fathers of the U.S. knew all too well from personal experience the result of religion and state mutually recognizing each other.

It results in Theocracy.

Whoever it is that puts the steak on your table and the car in your garage, is the same that defines the limits of your thoughts and actions.


The goal in Israel is theocracy.

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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #86 on: May 06, 2007, 06:22:30 PM »
Religious leaders who accept money from governments; especially those dependent on money from governments, are inevitably compromised.

The Founding Fathers of the U.S. knew all too well from personal experience the result of religion and state mutually recognizing each other.

It results in Theocracy.

Whoever it is that puts the steak on your table and the car in your garage, is the same that defines the limits of your thoughts and actions.


The goal in Israel is theocracy.

Israel is already somewhat theocratic.

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« Reply #87 on: May 07, 2007, 12:14:49 AM »
Re:  "...The goal in Israel is theocracy..."

I personally tend to favor a less than pure version of theocracy, for reasons long established whenever such governments have arisen in history.

How to prevent a Jewish version of Iran is the question.

We suffered greatly from the Grand Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church (still established to this day).

The last thing the Jewish People need is a Jewish version Inquisition; where rabbis prosecute and put on trial those suspected of being deficient in their religious piety.

Jewish Holy Men are not incapable of making severe misjudgements regarding aspects of their own as well as others lives.

Some of them are so crazy that they employ religious metaphysics as a mask for their psychotic tendencies.

Some full-time Holy Men are attracted to the possibilities of reaping great bank accounts from "charity", "donations", "miracle healings", etc.

I also have my doubts that Rabbinic Sages make for the best public administrators, accountants, or law enforcement personnel.

Is it possible for a Kahanist Government to oversee a totally Jewish centered Administration, Public Works, Educational System, Banking, Defense Department, etc., while keeping the sages and holy men totally independent from financial support from government?

These details should be discussed far in advance of establishing a government.




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Re: The Rules of The JTF Forum and The Censored Words Policy
« Reply #88 on: May 07, 2007, 12:33:37 AM »
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The last thing the Jewish People need is a Jewish version Inquisition; where rabbis prosecute and put on trial those suspected of being deficient in their religious piety.

I don't think you'll ever see anything like this. We aren't even standing up for ourselves when we should be defending our land and our families. That's part of our problem.

I'd like to see another King David.
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« Reply #89 on: May 07, 2007, 01:40:04 PM »

Israel is already somewhat theocratic.
How do you figure? With the rampant abortion and homosexuality and drug use (just like so-called "Christian" America), Israel is anything but theocratic.  :(

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« Reply #90 on: May 07, 2007, 01:51:23 PM »
Re:  "...I though enema is enemy in Ebonics..."

Naw...'dat b emanee's!

Eksampuh:

Don' yew' b gib'n no enemas t' yo' emanee's!

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« Reply #91 on: May 08, 2007, 11:33:14 AM »
"Eksampuh" Massuh!!! :D :DLOL

As for Israel being theocratic...hmm in some terms i would say it is but thats in comparasion with countries such as America. Judaism is a religion that enforces rules and with Israel being the Jewish homeland it does signify as being theocratic however at a very small proportion of what it could be. I would officially say Israel was theocratic when the Kahanists come to power, otherwise no. It doesn't fulfill its potential.

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« Reply #92 on: May 08, 2007, 02:37:49 PM »

Israel is already somewhat theocratic.
How do you figure? With the rampant abortion and homosexuality and drug use (just like so-called "Christian" America), Israel is anything but theocratic.  :(

It is theocratic in the sense that Rabbis have authority to influence legislation. Most Kahanists would argue that their influence is negligible. I see theocracy as a sliding scale.   

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« Reply #93 on: May 08, 2007, 06:04:51 PM »
I know that some people have been complaing about what I post.(most notably Sarah)  I don't mind, as long as they tell people about my posts on this fourm.  But insults should not exist on this fourm.

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« Reply #94 on: May 09, 2007, 01:54:41 PM »
I don't complain about what you post. I haven't done so behind your back, if thats what you're suggesting. I've commented light heartedly to you but i've never harshly meant it, i find you surprisingly funny. :D

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« Reply #95 on: May 09, 2007, 05:33:29 PM »
I'm glad that you think that I am surprisingly funny.  I try to make it light on this fourm.  People take things too seriously. 

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« Reply #96 on: May 10, 2007, 12:50:17 PM »
I'm glad that you think that I am surprisingly funny.  I try to make it light on this fourm.  People take things too seriously. 

LOL! Sure you do Joe.

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« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2007, 10:01:29 PM »
I just unbanned it because I saw it said "deleted Cheney". Then I came here to make the announcement and I saw your post first.



OMG! That's too funny! If we get a "deleted Cheney", we should also end up getting a "George deleted"!  :laugh:

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« Reply #98 on: May 18, 2007, 10:02:55 PM »
I'm glad that you think that I am surprisingly funny.  I try to make it light on this fourm.  People take things too seriously. 

I fully agree!

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« Reply #99 on: May 18, 2007, 10:10:42 PM »
Pales tine is now censored too, just like Pales tinian. They come out as Eretz Yisrael and PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi. The reason I censored Pales tine was because I needed to convert every mention of it in a Wikipedia article to Eretz Yisrael for KahanePedia.



I don't agree that Pales tine should be censored or changed. Let's say someone is making reference to pre-48 Israel, it wouldn't be improper to use the P word since that's what the land was called then. Also, if we're quoting from the opposing viewpoint from someone who calls Israel the P word, then that should be allowed to make the point. There's a difference between censoring words and having them automatically changed. I have some reservations about that. But hey, this is just one Jew's opinion. You're the chief, boss, so it's up to you :)