REASONS WHY RON PAUL IS A DISASTER

[Muck DeFuslims]

By the way, this week there was a congressional vote on whether to condemn some [censored] union in the U.K. that has chosen to boycott Israel and divest from the Jewish nation.

The vote was something like 410-0 with 2 'present' votes. A 'present' vote means the representative attended the session but chose not to vote on the issue.

Guess who was one of the 'present' votes ?

That's right. Ron Paulestinian. 

[White Israelite]

Like hell i'd ever vote for Romney, i'm not going to vote for someone who supports the patriot act and gun control. The patriot act hasn't been used just against muslims but it's been used against milita groups in the US as well, remember the raids on the Alabama militia? How many more Wacos do we need which would probably be justified under the patriot act? Lets not forget throughout history gun control has been used by the enemys to disarm the populance, the Nazis did it to the Jews and the communists did it to the people of the state. The only difference between the two was their political agenda. I can't believe anyone would put our gun rights to the side and make a priority out of another issue. If Israel wanted to take out Iran right now, no doubt that they could but the US practically has control of Israel as if it were just another state.

"Neither a borrower nor a lender be"

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

Rudy Giuliani is by far the best candidate and the best chance that the GOP has of taking the 2008 election. Rudy Giuliani many not be the ideal candidate but he presents the best chance of keeping Hillary and Obama out of the White House which would be a total disaster. Giuliani will keep the United States on Offence and will put the proper pressure on Iran. He has stated that he will even use tactile nuclear weapons if it comes down to it. Nuclear Iran is not a choice with Rudy.

[White Israelite]

Rudy Giuliani is by far the best candidate and the best chance that the GOP has of taking the 2008 election. Rudy Giuliani many not be the ideal candidate but he presents the best chance of keeping Hillary and Obama out of the White House which would be a total disaster. Giuliani will keep the United States on Offence and will put the proper pressure on Iran. He has stated that he will even use tactile nuclear weapons if it comes down to it. Nuclear Iran is not a choice with Rudy.

Heres rudys record, I won't be voting for him either

Rudy Giuliani on Civil Rights
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    * Opposed Pres. Bush's ban on gay marriage. (Jan 2007)
    * Pro gay rights. (Jul 2006)
    * Free speech for private expression, not publicly-funded art. (Oct 1999)
    * Extended all city benefits to same-sex couples. (May 1998)
    * Supports affirmative action. (Apr 1989)

He also supports gun registration and licensing and wants all gun owners to have to take a written test, screw that.

[newman]

Rudy Giuliani is by far the best candidate and the best chance that the GOP has of taking the 2008 election. Rudy Giuliani many not be the ideal candidate but he presents the best chance of keeping Hillary and Obama out of the White House which would be a total disaster. Giuliani will keep the United States on Offence and will put the proper pressure on Iran. He has stated that he will even use tactile nuclear weapons if it comes down to it. Nuclear Iran is not a choice with Rudy.

Heres rudys record, I won't be voting for him either

Rudy Giuliani on Civil Rights
Click here for 10 full quotes on Civil Rights OR other candidates on Civil Rights OR background on Civil Rights.)

    * Opposed Pres. Bush's ban on gay marriage. (Jan 2007)
    * Pro gay rights. (Jul 2006)
    * Free speech for private expression, not publicly-funded art. (Oct 1999)
    * Extended all city benefits to same-sex couples. (May 1998)
    * Supports affirmative action. (Apr 1989)

He also supports gun registration and licensing and wants all gun owners to have to take a written test, screw that.

As a victim of stupid gun laws down under I beg every American not to vote for ANYONE who'll threaten the 2nd ammendment. Lose your guns and you'll lose your country......believe it.

[Muck DeFuslims]

With all due respect, do you actually beleive Guiliani is going to take your guns away ?

It's never going to happen.

You think the President has any real control over, or decides whether a homo has the right to marry his or her partner ?

Let's be realistic here.

This is going to come down to a one issue election.

Which candidate do you trust to fight moooozies ?

Yeah, Duncan Hunter might do a better job and you might feel more comfortable with his stance on gun control, abortion, affirmative action, gay rights etc.

But Duncan Hunter isn't going to win the Republican nomination, and he isn't getting elected.

Your most likely choice is between Romney, Thompson (if he deicdes to run), and Guiliani.

Ask yourself, out of those 3, which one do you trust most to fight mooozies ?

I don't know about you, but Romney and Thompson both set off my bullshiite detector every time they open their yappers.

Yup, Guiliani has his blemishes and warts, but he also has something else going for him.

A proven track record and credibility.

Rudy wasn't worried about gay rights when he tossed Arafag out of Lincoln center, and he showed a set of stones when he told the Saudi pig to shove his 10 million.

That told me alot about the man.

What the hell has Romney or Thompson ever done to engender your trust ?

Rudy also did a helluva job cleaning up NYC.

So take a deep breath and think it over.

Out of the candidates with a realistic chance of attaining the White House, who's going to do the best job of combating Islam ?

It sure as heck isn't a Dhimmicrat.

I submit Guiliani is the best hope we've got right now.

And I predict JTF will be endorsing him when the 2008 election rolls around. 

[newman]

That may be so. But I'm just saying G_d help you if he introduces gun registration, because as sure as night follows day......confiscation follows registration. And when citizens are unarmed...........they have no choice but to cop what the tyrant of the day dishes out.

[White Israelite]

Doesn't matter if he has the power or not, you think Guiliani wouldn't sign a gun bill if it came to his desk like bill clinton did when Sarah Brady asked him? Guiliani disarmed the people of NYC and I'll be damned if i'm giving up my guns or becoming a felon because he requires me to have a gun license. Guiliani will never get my vote regardless of how pro Israel he is, Clinton claimed he was pro Israel and look how that turned out. Same with Bush. Go ahead and vote Guiliani, i'm voting for someone who actually cares about my rights, not talks out of his ass to try and sucker people into getting votes. How the heck did Guiliani suddenly become a hero after 9/11? Everyone hated him before that.

[newman]

Zero tollerence in local law enforcement is one thing, but do it federally and you could (possibly ) have Ruby Ridges all across the USA.

[Muck DeFuslims]

Cohen says:

"Go ahead and vote Guiliani, i'm voting for someone who actually cares about my rights, not talks out of his ass to try and sucker people into getting votes."

Who is that ?

[RationalThought110]

With all due respect, do you actually beleive Guiliani is going to take your guns away ?

It's never going to happen.

You think the President has any real control over, or decides whether a homo has the right to marry his or her partner ?

Let's be realistic here.

This is going to come down to a one issue election.

Which candidate do you trust to fight moooozies ?

Yeah, Duncan Hunter might do a better job and you might feel more comfortable with his stance on gun control, abortion, affirmative action, gay rights etc.

But Duncan Hunter isn't going to win the Republican nomination, and he isn't getting elected.

Your most likely choice is between Romney, Thompson (if he deicdes to run), and Guiliani.

Ask yourself, out of those 3, which one do you trust most to fight mooozies ?

I don't know about you, but Romney and Thompson both set off my bullshiite detector every time they open their yappers.

Yup, Guiliani has his blemishes and warts, but he also has something else going for him.

A proven track record and credibility.

Rudy wasn't worried about gay rights when he tossed Arafag out of Lincoln center, and he showed a set of stones when he told the Saudi pig to shove his 10 million.

That told me alot about the man.

What the hell has Romney or Thompson ever done to engender your trust ?

Rudy also did a helluva job cleaning up NYC.

So take a deep breath and think it over.

Out of the candidates with a realistic chance of attaining the White House, who's going to do the best job of combating Islam ?

It sure as heck isn't a Dhimmicrat.

I submit Guiliani is the best hope we've got right now.

And I predict JTF will be endorsing him when the 2008 election rolls around. 

If that's what Giuliani thought of Arafat, then he needs to be taught that Abbas is just like Arafat. 

[German Christ]

Ron Paul is a Nazi.

LoL, you're kidding? 

He's not a good presidential candidate, but don't call everyone you don't like a nazi.

[White Israelite]

Put it this way, the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

I had this same conversation with a fellow Jew on paltalk and she came into our gun room saying that Guiliani wouldn't take our guns. She went as far as to say the following

"I promise you he will not take your guns or ban them, if he does, i'll give you my address and give each of you $5.00!"

I responded

"Gee thanks lady, i'm glad you appraise the value of my rare and expensive guns at only $5.00, why don't you recommend me to the gun buyback programs run by Sarah Brady instead? At least she's willing to offer $100.00"

I then turned on my camera and showed her my toys, my evil black rifle with 30 round magazine, my galil with folding stock, 35 round banana magazine, and my tec-9. She said something along the lines of

"What do you need an uzi for?"

I about smacked my head and said to myself "These people just don't get it!"

Stop making excuses about Guiliani, i'm not voting for him, period. You want to know how you can tell a politicians lying? When their lips move. Anyone that "dedicated" to taking away my rights is not going to get my vote no matter how pro Israel they are. It's nothing more than a load of crap so he can get votes from your typical Christians who think they are doing a favor to Israel by voting for someone like Bush.

I would rather have someone like Ron Paul in office because he's an isolationist, in many cases it would actually help Israel because their aid would also be cut off. Why is it Americas responsibility to send taxpayers money to the country? I have donated money to Israel before through private organizations and we don't need the government doing it so they can force Israel to destroy settlements. Screw Guiliani.

[German Christ]

Oh my god! You have an Uzi??? I'll move to the US IMMEDIATLY! 

In Germany you have to run through a long long training to use a normal PISTOL! And you have to give a reason why you need one...
Oh my god i get mad...

[newman]

"What do you need an uzi for?"

I get so sick of this question.

The ONLY 'needs' are food, air, water and shelter.

EVERYTHING else we have are 'wants'.

We don't NEED uzis, SUVs, luxury cars or speed boats......we WANT them. It's also an Ameican's RIGHT to have them. That's why we all work as opposed to live on a commune!

[White Israelite]

Oh my G-d! You have an Uzi??? I'll move to the US IMMEDIATLY! 

In Germany you have to run through a long long training to use a normal PISTOL! And you have to give a reason why you need one...
Oh my G-d i get mad...

No lol, a "real" uzi (not the civilian politically correct semi auto variant) is quite expensive, well above 5000 dollars. It's generic, every liberal or anti gunner constantly says "Why do you need a uzi?!" or "You have kids running in the streets with uzis!" when in reality, uzis for the most part are pretty uncommon for use in crime. They may be thinking of Mac-11's and Tec-9's. Even AK47's aren't as commonly used as the media makes it out to be. Most criminals prefer small handguns because they can conceal them easily.

I also get the typical "Why do you need a 30 round clip?!", I can't stand the term clip (and it's not even the right term), but man they would freak out if they saw my chinese drum magazine for my AK.

I guess the same question could be said "why do you need a car that goes over 30 mph?!"

[mord]

Duncan Hunter won'nt take anyones guns away

[GOPProAmerica]

Ron Paul is an anarchist liberation who believes America’s borders should be open to the foreign invasion. Ron Paul's foreign policy is isolationism, which means America should stay out of world conflict, under Ron Paul; Iran will never learn its lessons. He is also very weak on the Islamic threat we face every day. He believes we caused 9/11 upon our selves and we should just leave them alone and then they will go away peacefully. He is also a very strong supporter of civil liberties. Ron Paul has no change of becoming president, so don't even waste your time on him.

[Xgamer]

I'm voting Ron Paul. I don't know about anyone else.

Ron Paul will get us out of NAFTA, NATO, ETC..
Although uniting with Canada would be a good idea, and ron paul hates the north american union.

[White Israelite]

I was kind of impressed how well he did at the debates last night.


I think it was Romney who said "We should have the ability to tap into churches and mosques, yes some rights maybe violated but we need to uphold peoples rights to make people secure, our number one priority is keeping people safe. It is better to be alive than dead" or something along those lines.

I immediately thought of this quote by Franklin.

"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither" -Benjamin Franklin

Do you really think any of these politicians give a rats ass about Israel? Their concern isn't Islam or Muslims. Their concern is terrorism as an excuse to push the national ID act. Do you really think they are after just muslims? Remember the JDL leader who was sent to prison and killed? Our government considers the JDL a terrorist organization, what's to stop one of these candidates from declaring the JTF as a terrorist organization? They don't give a damn about Israel or Iran, it's all talk no action. This isn't something America is able to stop, Israel is going to have to do this on her own, and I have more than enough faith to believe Israel can stop Iran just like they destroyed Iraqs nuclear reactor. Israel is not a weak country filled with a bunch of pacified victims, the Jews are warriors. Ron Paul may be an isolationist and not want America to be involved in middle eastern affairs (as our founding fathers warned us) but that does not make him an anti-semite. Ron Paul said it himself last night, Israel is a strong country and a nuclear power who is more than capable of taking care of Iran by herself.

Why should we sacrifice our rights and take the lesser of two evils? I'm tired of that, and I don't trust Mccain, Guiliani or Romney one bit.

Someone mentioned Ron Paul seems to have a following of nazis that want to vote for him, you cannot attribute someone to being a nazi because the nazis figure he's the best candidate. That's like saying "hey your racist against blacks you must be a nazi" or the fact that many of us support a white south africa and that many neo nazis also support a white south africa. How about gun owners? Lots of the nazis on StørmFrønt own guns, does that mean all gun owners are nazis?

The fact is, just because we share common values and what not does not mean we have the same agenda. Ron Paul may have many ideas that I agree with but that doesn't make him a Nazi. Buchan

[RationalThought110]

You're wrong.   

He's contradicted himself and doesn't purely follow the constitution.

Ron Paul is delusional and obsessed with "neocons." 

He is crazy and tries to defend Iran's regime.


Ron Paul has a very annoying voice and people won't want to hear him speak anyway.

[White Israelite]

You're wrong.   

He's contradicted himself and doesn't purely follow the constitution.

Ron Paul is delusional and obsessed with "neocons." 

He is crazy and tries to defend Iran's regime.


Ron Paul has a very annoying voice and people won't want to hear him speak anyway.

How did he contradict himself? He reminds me of the Mike Gravel of the democrat party. He seems rather unhappy with the direction of the Republican part. I don't recall him defending Iran but rather saying that our foreign policy and involvement in the middle east was what caused 9/11.

How does he not follow the constitution? Didn't our founding fathers warn us against getting involved with other nations?

[Muck DeFuslims]

"I don't recall him defending Iran but rather saying that our foreign policy and involvement in the middle east was what caused 9/11."


And that impressed you ?

Ron Paul is a piece of crap.

[EagleEye]

You're wrong.   

He's contradicted himself and doesn't purely follow the constitution.

Ron Paul is delusional and obsessed with "neocons." 

He is crazy and tries to defend Iran's regime.


Ron Paul has a very annoying voice and people won't want to hear him speak anyway.

How did he contradict himself? He reminds me of the Mike Gravel of the democrat party. He seems rather unhappy with the direction of the Republican part. I don't recall him defending Iran but rather saying that our foreign policy and involvement in the middle east was what caused 9/11.

How does he not follow the constitution? Didn't our founding fathers warn us against getting involved with other nations?

It seems you really do enjoy defending nazi politicians, nazi forums, and nazi "rights."  You do have some interesting posts though.  I'm not sure what I think of you.

[White Israelite]

You're wrong.   

He's contradicted himself and doesn't purely follow the constitution.

Ron Paul is delusional and obsessed with "neocons." 

He is crazy and tries to defend Iran's regime.


Ron Paul has a very annoying voice and people won't want to hear him speak anyway.

How did he contradict himself? He reminds me of the Mike Gravel of the democrat party. He seems rather unhappy with the direction of the Republican part. I don't recall him defending Iran but rather saying that our foreign policy and involvement in the middle east was what caused 9/11.

How does he not follow the constitution? Didn't our founding fathers warn us against getting involved with other nations?

It seems you really do enjoy defending nazi politicians, nazi forums, and nazi "rights."  You do have some interesting posts though.  I'm not sure what I think of you.

Not at all, when has Ron Paul made a anti-semitic comment about Jews? Even Chaim (at least in his video) was in favor of ending the aid to Israel because it forces Israel to do suicidal things under US control. Israel survived fine on her own, 67 was a miracle by G-d.

Ron Paul hasn't singled out Israel, he simply doesn't want America to get involved with the middle east. He is supporting ending the foreign aid for Egypt and Saudi as well which by the way are sold American equipment which will likely be used to kill Israelis. The Israelis will have superiority over the area.